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But I don't think we should ask for sufferings, because that could be too much.

It could be a big deal, especially if you are hardly pressed in a tribulation of some kind and wonder why am I serving God after all? In a such difficult situation it could be of real comfort to know that Jehovah really loves us. That he is not primarly interested about his own reputation, but about our salvation. In the contrary case we could get incorrect thoughts about Him that would weaken our determination to continue to do his will. And that would not be either good for ourselves. Before I came to this more accurate understanding I got disturbing thoughts that Jehovah God just does everything for his own sake, for his own glory and sanctification. Yes, that He lets people suffer to sanctify Himself and that he sent Jesus to suffer to earth just to sanctify Himself. It looked to me that God just uses his servants to sanctify himself and lets them suffer for his own ego. This thought learned at the WT organization really raised doubts in my mind about the trueness of God's love. Just a few months ago I have got rid of such doubts about God's love. I have prayed to Jehovah God to think correctly and in the process I have had to discard this central teaching of the WT organization. Now instead of thinking that the sufferings mankind experience is due to God's primary focus on his own sanctification, I have an other more correct understanding of why God has allowed sufferings to exist. And that is simply because there was and is no other better way to save the mankind. Mankind had evolved to the better through sufferings. They have just been necessary for our own individual and collective developement.

No, that is not the question. Jesus loved his Father and wishes that we love Jehovah God and that we wish that his Father would be sanctified. We should absolutely be very interested about that. That should be our primary consern if we love God before everything else. But the question is how conserned is Jehovah God himself about that? A perfect relation between to parts, would it not be that both are primarly interested of the other part? I mean that Jehovah is ready to do what ever is needed for our salvaton and we do what ever is needed from our part to accomplish God's wonderful purposes. There is a simple principle that it is not good to seek one's own glory. That naturally has to be how God sees himself too.

WT organization is so obsessed with reputation. Once more a prof of that. I don't think people would be so conserned about reputation before becoming subjects to torture. Only if somebody thinks to be a perfect human is to be something else. I think the WT writers think deep inside that for Jesus the physical pain was a minor thing, because they think a perfect human can quite easily endure physical pain. I don't think that is true. Seems to be to the contrary, because he sweated sweat and blood before he was captured and prayed with tears. His body wanted to escape but his mind told him that he should stay and get caught and suffer.

That's what I have been talking about.

But anyway they do that by discouraging the "other sheep" to ask the anointed about anything that conserns their anointing or if they could have any "new light".

Could it just be that you are too scared to be wrong? And that's maybe why you avoid even the thought that those prophecies could concern our time?

Your heart is in the right place here ♥️. From the heart comes faith.

I think there is nothing bad in that because it's not me adding wealth to the mix, because it is what Ezekiel 38 actually says. I just happen to believe what is written in God's word. I am not adding nothing to it and I am not either taking away anything from it. Unfortunately the NWT even took out the word for cattle from that Bible translation. Who gave them the right to do that? In addition I can tell you an interesting detail about how God's people could become wealthy there in cattle and gold and silver, to be coveted by Gog. Now for example Abingdon Downs cattle ranch has 25 000 heads of cattle on 500 000 hectares of land. Because of the dry tropical climate they can at the moment feed one cow on 20 hectares of land. The grass does not grow better at this moment. But in India some villages with same climat have dug a lot of ponds and trenches to trap rain water that would otherwise run away into rivers and into the sea. One such village is able to have 600 cows on 1000 hectares. That means that the Abingdon Downs cattle ranch could with the same water harvesting methods have 300 000 heads of cattle instead of 25 000. So with the right methods we could really become wealthy in cows there. In addition when we would dig the ponds and trenches, we could simultaneously scan the dirt with metal detectors and pick all the gold and silver that happens to be in the soil. I believe it is exactly this it is about in Ezekiel 38.

Or what about in a culture were that does not matter?

The deal is like it has always been. Did Jeremiah bring the Babylonians to destroy Jerusalem? No, it was Jehovah God. But would Jehovah have brought in the Babylonians without first warning about it through prophets? No. JW insider, I think you are well aware that Jehovah always warns first through messengers, and if they are ignored, it gives God green light to go a head with punishment. We have the warnings already in the Bible. But unfortunately the WT organization insists that those prophecies do not apply on them, because they insist that those prophecies got their fulfillments already during the First world war and the Second world war. So somebody has to make it very clear to them that the fulfillment of those prophecies lies ahead of them, and not in the past. And someone has to make it clear to them why those prophecies need to get their fulfillments. Because JWs are unaware of their numerous errors and falsehoods. Otherwise the JWs would not understand that they have to change. Otherwise JWs would take the coming troubles just like ordinary persecution and would only feel justified. Then JWs would miss is the point of God's discipline.

You know, Jehovah and Jesus helped apostle Paul to survive and John the Baptist surely had Jehovah God's protection and help to survive in the desert. So I think that is the example to follow. To pray Jehovah's help with the daily life. About 10 years ago my wife wanted that I go and check if I have the Aspergers syndrom. So I was diagnozed. It was very thorough. It took 4 sessions 2 hours each. My mental capabilities got tested with various types of tests. And the advice I got was to just be myself and to try to find my place in the world. And to use my talents. But I try also to lower the intensity of my emotions by for example Ashwagandha root powder. 2 tea spoons a day. And I have read some books for Aspergers with advices for us. And I have also learnt quite a lot from youtube. I appreciated many of the advices on a youtube chanel named 'brainy dose'.

Yes, that was the point to make all the demands in one letter. To show them how wrong and mistaken they are. To brake their illusion that they are truly in the truth. If you have read the July study edition, you could see how hard the WT organization tries to convince its members that everything is fine with their doctines, especially their explanations about end time prophecies. But they are completely off. And the main reason is that they are based on 1914. And secondly, when the next blow hits the WT, they might be more inclined to look at all the things I pointed out in the letter. Otherwise they could underestimate how far astray they really are. And I feel a strong urgency of the timing of our flight according to Revelation 12:6. So there has to happen a lot of correction fast. I have already sent letters last year to all branch offices in the world about the need to flee to Australia as soon the persecution begins in USA against the WT. But the only thing I have heard back are all the WT articles that distort the true meaning of Ezekiel 38 and Daniel 11 etc. So they have had time to think through the subject. But they have failed to believe what must be done. So I felt I have to double down and tell them that they teach at least 30 teachings wrong. The problem is not just one or two false teachings, but tens. They have to wake up. Because the prophecies in the Bible have to get thier fulfillment concerning the symbolic woman's flight with wings of a great eagle to the safe place described in Ezekiel 38 until Gog comes to threaten to plunder.

But I feel more and more urgency and such a coincidence, thousands of empty planes all around the world, cheap jet fuel, lock down, empty kingdom halls. Its like the perfect moment for all witnesses to go to Australia together. Empty useless kingdom halls could now easily be sold before departure. And soon is the summer. Jesus said we should pray that our flight would not occur in winter time. Can there come any better time?

You could consider how Br. Russell learned many new things. He also went "everywhere" and found scatered pieces of truths. Nothing wrong with that. Just important to have God's help to pick the thuths and not any false ideas. I believe if we sincerely everyday pray for guidance and protection in our search for a more accurate understanding, then we will not get lost.

You could consider how Br. Russell learned many new things. He also went "everywhere" and found scatered pieces of truths. Nothing wrong with that. Just important to have God's help to pick the thuths and not any false ideas. I believe if we sincerely everyday pray for guidance and protection in our search for a more accurate understanding, then we will not get lost.

Hi JW Insider, you know people are different with different strong and weak sides. And some have special gifts that they are born with. Think about John the Baptist. He spoke very strongly and boldly and lived an abnormal life in the desert. And apostle Paul was not either a normal apostle. But he was gifted with special skills and exceptional drive for the good news. Persons that are able to make extraordinary things that impact the world around them extraordinarily are usually odd persons. Many inventors are also odd persons. Some have analyzed what they have in common and they have found that many of them actually have the Aspergers' syndrome. Thanks to their extraordinary capabilities, they can figure out new things quite easily, and its sad when the majority has difficultis to recognize fast enough that they often come with valuable new findings. But I don't take credit for the more accurate knowledge I have gained. Because if Jehovah God would not had let me understand, I would not had understood, despite the fact that I am quite good at figuring out how things really work. And I was appalled by the latest WT study edition so I prayed to Jehovah God to get an idea what could be done when the WT organization stubbornly refuses to correct themselves. And I got at once an idea, thanks to God, that I have to dubble down. And write them a whole list of their errors and do a cowork with God. Yes, according to the logic in God's word, a warning has to be given first, only after that can Jehovah force a change by some kind of punishment. So, JW insider, I can not see were my logic failed in this case, from a biblical point of view. I think I followed the examples of biblical persons such as John the Baptist and apostle Paul.

It looks like they have read my letters becuse they try hard to convince the JWs that their teachings are true and that JWs should not allow themselves to be mislead by such as me. You can read the latest July 2020 study edition and find indications of that. And also May 2020 edition about Daniel 11 about the King of the North. I have clearly presented them facts that point to USA, especially when Donald Trump is president. But they insist that the King of the North is Russia. I really hope when they will be studing this article it will be evident that it is USA and not Russia.

I believe Jehovah God will bring on them more troubles. The liquadition of WT in Russia was a heavy blow and now the restrictions because of Covid. I am just curious what will hit the WT next?

Brothers and Sisters associated with the Watchtower society May 9, 2020 I have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth. But my efforts have remained fruitless. You well know the biblical procedure. Before punishing, God sends his messengers to expose the fault. And if the advice is ignored, then there is left only one option, a punishment. A very illustrative example was Pharaoh. God brought upon him 10 plagues. The first plagues were not so severe. But as Pharaoh did not change God had to bring upon him even more hard-hitting plagues. It was a shock that the Russian government confiscated all that belonged of the WT. Why would Jehovah God allow that to happen? Could it be because the WT society is ignoring the advice from God's word, that is presented to it from messengers like me? Could this Corona-virus be a plague from God? Like some of the plagues God brought upon Egypt, that also affected his people the Israelites? I want you to reflect on the fact that the Corona-virus has caused that meetings at Kingdom halls have been canceled. And 2020 physical conventions have been canceled. And the public ministry by door-to-door witnessing has been canceled. I must warn you that more plagues are to come upon you, until you start to listen and act according to the advice I and other messengers give you from God word. My intention is now to write to you after every new plague that will come upon the WT society from Jehovah God through Jesus Christ, the head of the congregation and remind you of the changes you need to take to really be in the truth. God brought upon Egypt 10 plagues before Pharaoh stopped to resist God's will. So that is an example for you. Here below I will provide you a list of untrue teachings and practises the WT society must correct in order to please Jehovah God. You have to stop teaching that for Jehovah God his own sanctification is the most important thing. Because that implies that Jehovah God would be a self-centered, narcissistic God. Instead Jehovah God is first and foremost motivated by love for his creation. Thus He is not primarily motivated by a his own sanctification. Instead it is we humans who should respond to God's love by being first of all motivated by a desire to sanctify God. (John 3:16; 1 John 4:8) You have to stop denigrating Jesus' sufferings and love for humans and mankind. The WT society teaches that Jesus' agony before his trial was because his death would bring reproach on Jehovah. Because he would be killed as a criminal besides two criminals. No, that is false. Jesus was in agony because the knew how much physical pain he would have to feel. Having a true understanding of this allows one to feel pity for Jesus and to fully appreciate the sacrifice he did for mankind out of love for us. Jesus was not worried about the disgrace his death on a torture stake would cause, to the contrary it was a cause of glory for him and for Jehovah God. (John 12:23; John 13:31-33; Hebrews 12:2) You have to stop denigrating Jesus' brothers, the anointed among the congregations. They are the firstfruits and they are Jesus' brothers (James 1:8; Revelation 14:4; Matthew 25:31-46) You have to stop teaching false teachings about: 1914, 1260, 1290, 1335, 2300 days, when Satan was thrown down to earth, the seven headed beast in Revelation 13, the image of the beast, the mark of the beast, the woman and her flight in Revelation 12, who is Babylon the Great, the generation, the disgusting thing causing desolation, the king of the north, the fierce-looking king, the horn that has eyes and a mouth, Daniel 11:29-45, Armageddon, the time of the earthly resurrection, Elijah in the end time, who is the discreet and faithful slave, women's role in the congregation and what is prescribed and what is not allowed them, who is the man of lawlessness, Israel's status in the end time, the meaning of the overseer should be husband of one wife. (1 Timothy 3:2; Titus 1:6; Mark 10:11,12) You have to stop going to court against individuals or organizations etc on copyright issues. (1 Corinthians 6:1-8) You have to stop disfellowshipping brothers and sisters based on not agreeing with the WT organization's false teachings. You must reinstate all brothers and sisters that have been disfellowshipped on false grounds and give a sincere apology and somehow make up for the wrong committed against them. And when someone is reproved or disfellowshipped, the committed sin must be made known to the congregation. (1 Timothy 5:20; Matthew 3:5; Mark 1:5; James 5:16; 1 Corinthians 5:1) You have to understand and believe and teach about the flight the woman in Revelation 12 is to undertake. You have to understand and believe and teach that Ezekiel 38 speaks about a literal place where God's people will be gathered and live in security literally and that Gog from Magog together with his armies will come to plunder God's people's literal cattle, gold, silver and property and that it will consist of a literal great wealth. Please, receive this call for correction and repentance and act accordingly. But if not, be sure God will have to cause trouble until his congregation as an entity has repented and turned around. God's word foretells troubles ahead for God's people, in order to cause a change to the better: Daniel 8:11 It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army, and from him the constant feature was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down. 12 And an army was given over, together with the constant feature, because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success. 13 And I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one speaking: “How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?” 14 So he said to me: “Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.” Daniel 11:35 And some of those having insight will be made to stumble, in order to do a refining work because of them and to do a cleansing and a whitening until the time of the end; because it is yet for the time appointed. Your brother Jan Kosonen

When to begin the countdown of the 2300 days? To get an idea, it could be helpful to discern when those days end relative to time times and half a time. I see a possibility that the 2300 days end the same day as the 1260 days. That is because the woman in Revelation 12 will be fed 1260 days. Why not more? Probably because what she represents, does not need more feeding in that particular sense. She will be fed and brought to a complete spiritual condition. This woman represents God's congregation on earth. That is another topic to examine, but let's find out the possible dates. Let's compare the scriptures related to this: Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days. Daniel 8:14 So he said to me: “Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.” So this leaves the question, what event marks the beginning of the 2300 days? There should be a remarkable day when the 2300 days begin. Otherwise what is the point of telling about 2300 days if they end simultaneously with the 1260 days? Just for clarification, the 1260 days should reasonably begin the same day as the 1290 days and time, times and half a time, because the scriptures in Daniel chapter 12 and 11 and 8 and 7 are all interconnected. Those scriptures speak about a specific period of persecution of the saints or the holy ones. And according Revelation 12 the woman flees to a wilderness to escape that persecution, but instead the remaining ones of her seed will be persecuted. (Revelation 12:17) Where the wilderness is, is in itself another topic. But let's first concentrate to understand the 1260 etc. days. Daniel 12:11 “And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days. Daniel 11:31 And arms will stand up, proceeding from him; and they will profane the sanctuary, the fortress, and remove the constant feature. “And they will put in place the disgusting thing that causes desolation. Daniel 8:11 It exalted itself even against the Prince of the army, and from him the constant feature was taken away, and the established place of his sanctuary was thrown down. 12 And an army was given over, together with the constant feature, because of transgression; and it kept throwing truth to the earth, and it acted and had success. 13 And I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one speaking: “How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?” Daniel 12:: “How long will it be to the end of these marvelous things?” 7 Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was up above the waters of the stream, as he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens and swore by the One who is alive forever: “It will be for an appointed time, appointed times, and half a time. As soon as the dashing to pieces of the power of the holy people comes to an end, all these things will come to their finish.” Daniel 7:25 He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time. 26 But the Court sat, and they took away his rulership, in order to annihilate him and to destroy him completely. So where does the 2300 days fit in here? Maybe Revelation 12:1,2 has the answer? Those verses describe a vision on the sky apostle John witnessed. Here is what he recorded: "Then a great sign was seen in heaven: A woman was arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of 12 stars, 2 and she was pregnant. And she was crying out in her pains and in her agony to give birth." There is a correlation with this sign in the heaven with how the constellation of Virgo was in relation to the other elements described in Revelation 12:1,2 on a specific date, namely September 23, 2017. So, in theory there is a possibility that the 2300 days in Daniel 8:14 begun September 23, 2017. Daniel 8:14 "So he said to me: “Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.” That would take us to January 10, 2024. That would then be the end of 1260 days or time, times and half a time. That would be the date the holy place is finally restored to its right condition by the feeding of adequate spiritual food to her among other blessings from God. That would be the day the feeding of the symbolic woman ends. And the woman should represent God's people, the congregation of God. Because the faithful and discreet slave will feed it according to Matthew 24:45: “Who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time? 46 Happy is that slave if his master on coming finds him doing so!" Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days. Luke 12:42 And the Lord said: “Who really is the faithful steward, the discreet one, whom his master will appoint over his body of attendants to keep giving them their measure of food supplies at the proper time? So if the beginning of 2300 days was September 23, 2017. The end is then January 10, 2024. And as it looks like, 1260 days should end at the same date. Then the beginning of the 1260 days should be July 29, 2020. On this site you can easily calculate dates: https://www.countcalculate.com/calendar/date-in-x-days That is quite interesting. That's quite soon, July 29, 2020. Think if it is the date the symbolic woman representing the congregation of God on earth will flee to a specific place into a wilderness? I would like to be there.

No, I am dead serious. It is all about being part of Biblical prophecy and to escape the upcomming wild beast.

The dragon represents Satan. The woman represents the brotherhood of Jehovah's witnesses. The eagle wings represent aircrafts. The wilderness represent a place in a literal wilderness. And the water could really mean litteral water. But when it says that it comes out of the dragons mouth, that must be symbolic. Floods occur when there is heavy rain. So I expect there will happen a flood event. But in some way the earth will absorb the water instead of allowing it to run futher and cause flooding. Jehovah's witnesses should as soon as they arrive there dig perpendicular trenches toward the waterflow to stop run off and instead absorb the water. That would be very beneficial for future soil humidity and crop growth.

Do you mean the situation in the world now?

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