divergenceKO

That is what your naive assessment is. There are still certain steps to go before the fat lady sings. Your apostate friends just happen to apply one.
Of course the California Supreme Court and the Appellate Courts have spoken. That doesn't mean the US supreme court can't send it back to the lower courts for further review. That doesn't mean the Org can't ask for an oral argument for the highest court.
More hot air coming from an uneducated person.


Srecko, try learning something for a change. It's not about maneuvers, it's about the US process of the law. If you don't understand our laws, keep your opinion to yourself. Every topic you think you know, you just keep embarrassing yourself even further. Stick to up voting your apostate friend JTR post. That's a safer bet on how to support ignorance.

Coming from a long-winded insane person that converted to accept apostasy to further his attacks and hate of the Org, it seems as waste of internet space if people are going to believe such an insane person.
But that's what this website is designed for, Apostates false, misleading, and hateful rhetoric.

Coming from a long-winded insane person that converted to accept apostasy to further his attacks and hate of the Org, it seems as waste of internet space if people are going to believe such an insane person.
But that's what this website is designed for, Apostates false, misleading, and hateful rhetoric.

I see you like sniffing through other peoples garbage.
Technical denial. Most likely the petition was entered too late for a writ. 90 days from the California Supreme Court denied.
How about learning the laws. Oral argument will decide. The higher court can descend to have it reconsidered by the appellate court after the Supreme Court returns it for review. Depending on how busy the US Supreme Court is to hear oral argument.
Until the fat lady sings. Meantime, cheering for apostates to win, is bad Christian Conduct. Why are you still a witness? You have lost favor from God long ago. Listen to witness, maybe the conversion will give you better legitimacy to hate the Org like them.

That is what your naive assessment is. There are still certain steps to go before the fat lady sings. Your apostate friends just happen to apply one.
Of course the California Supreme Court and the Appellate Courts have spoken. That doesn't mean the US supreme court can't send it back to the lower courts for further review. That doesn't mean the Org can't ask for an oral argument for the highest court.
More hot air coming from an uneducated person.


Srecko, try learning something for a change. It's not about maneuvers, it's about the US process of the law. If you don't understand our laws, keep your opinion to yourself. Every topic you think you know, you just keep embarrassing yourself even further. Stick to up voting your apostate friend JTR post. That's a safer bet on how to support ignorance.

... reminds me of Phineas T. Bluster on the old TV Howdy Doody Show ..... it's simply AMAZING! .....  in a sick, demented sort of way.
... but then again .... that is what Narcissistic Personality Disorder is.

The Howdy Doody Show_ Mr.Bluster and Buffalo Bob wrangle.mp4

Read my statement again. I couldn't care less. I don't recommend books that have received negative input by people not in good standing and have a negative view of the Watchtower. It would be like thinking JTR would be mentally sound to give sound advice about the Watchtower to use as good research and accept them as sound talking points. Therefore, I'm not harping. I'm demonstrating the difference when you attack (Rebuke) some people (Actual brother) here but not others.
That in effect makes your books of fighting a good fight in a journalist point of view, null and void. Can't have it both ways. Scripture is more specific. Kinda of reminds me of JWinsider. But then again, birds of a feather!! Admin & Librarian. 😉

I told you the answer previously ... and of course it was downvoted  by the person who actually HAS "Narcissistic Personality Disorder", by whatever name.
  If you look up the symptoms you will see it is an exact fit.
He/They will NEVER stop until you, too, are a humorless blob, and be like Him/Them.

The Supreme Court Rejected a Case About the Jehovah’s Witnesses and Sex Abuse
By Hemant Mehta October 8, 2019   Yesterday, the Supreme Court announced that it would not take up a wild case concerning the organization that oversees the Jehovah’s Witnesses. We can breathe a huge sigh of relief that the case won’t be overturned. (In that link, it’s case 19-40 on page 42.)
 
 
The case, which involved child molestation and religious secrecy, centered around an incident that took place on July 15, 2006.
J.W., a nine-year-old girl with Jehovah’s Witness parents, was invited to her first slumber party at the home of Gilbert Simental. He had a daughter her age, so that wasn’t too weird. Two other girls (sisters) were also at the party. These families all knew and trusted Simental because, while he was no longer a local Witness leader, he had spent more than a decade as an elder in the faith. He was a religious leader who stepped down, he said, to spend more time with his son. They believed him. They all respected him. It’s why they allowed their girls into his home.
During that party, everyone got into a pool in the backyard… including Simental. And he proceeded to molest J.W. and the sisters. He did it again later that night. The sisters eventually told their parents, who reported Simental to local Witness elders (which is what they’re taught to do in these situations).
Simental confessed to some of the allegations, and the elders basically gave him a faith-based slap on the wrist: a reprimand that had no meaning outside church circles.
Things changed only when the sisters’ school principal learned about what happened and, as required by law, reported the abuse to local law enforcement. Police soon contacted J.W.’s family asking for their story, but after consulting with the Witnesses, her father chose not to speak with the cops.
It was a year later when J.W., then 10 years old, told her parents what Simental did to her in the pool. It infuriated them, and they told the Witness elders that they wanted a restraining order against him. The elders told him not to do that since it would require informing the police about what Simental did — and they preferred to keep his actions private.
Here’s the bigger problem: There’s reason to believe the Witnesses were aware that Simental was a child molester… and they kept it from the families. Simental was allowed to be a religious leader — earning respect from the community — even though higher-ups in the religion knew that he shouldn’t be around children.
It raised an important question: How much blame did the Witnesses deserve for what happened at that pool party?
J.W.’s family eventually filed a criminal lawsuit against Simental and a separate civil suit against the Watchtower Society (the Witnesses’ governing organization). They basically said the Witnesses should have informed congregation members about Simental and stopped him from being around children. They never should have allowed him to be a religious leader.
The Watchtower Society’s argument? They didn’t know Simental was a child molester, and the pool party occurred after he was no longer a religious leader, and the slumber party wasn’t a church-sponsored event, so leave them out of this.
(To be clear, I’m simplifying the details of this case and the legal journey quite a bit.)
When this case went to trial in California, J.W.’s family demanded that the Watchtower Society produce documents relating to what they knew about child molesters within the faith. The Witnesses had already admitted to keeping lists of problematic leaders along with their specific “crimes” — similar to the Catholic Church. If Simental was on that list — from 1997, nearly a decade before the pool incident — it would essentially be a smoking gun showing the Witnesses knew he was a threat to kids but did nothing about it.
But the Witnesses refused to hand over that material. They treated it like Catholics treat confession: It’s private information, they argued, and to reveal what was said internally would violate their religious beliefs.
J.W.’s family didn’t buy that argument. The information they wanted wasn’t bound by clergy-penitent confessional privilege. It’s not like Simental told the elders what he had done in order to confess his sins. He was caught. The Witnesses were merely shielding him from legal punishment.
In the criminal trial, Witnesses elders were forced to admit their practices and that the private discussions they had about abusive clergy members were not considered confidential under the law.
Mark O’Donnell, writing at JWSurvey, explained what happened next:
 
  Simental’s appeal got him nowhere. He’s in prison today. But there were still so many questions about what responsibility the Witnesses had in this whole matter.  
J.W.’s family wanted to know why Simental, a known pedophile, was promoted within the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why did they allow him to be around children? Why didn’t they warn families? Why did they just give him a slap on the wrist?
In 2013, the civil trial began against the Watchtower Society, but again, the Witnesses didn’t want to provide necessary documents. They eventually lost the case. In 2015, the Riverside Superior Court of California awarded J.W. a judgment of $4,016,152.39. This past December, the Fourth District Court of Appeal in California upheld that decision.
You get the idea: The Witnesses refused to hand over internal data, presumably because it would’ve been like handing over a loaded gun. So the courts had no choice but to assume the plaintiff was telling the truth and the Watchtower Society was negligent in their handling of Simental.
Earlier this year, in a Hail Mary attempt to reverse their punishment, the Watchtower Society appealed to the Supreme Court. They wanted the justices to say that documents relating to child abuse within a religious group can be kept confidential.
Here’s how the Witnesses’ attorney introduced his case to the justices. (You don’t need a law degree to see how he just completely dismissed the molestation.)
Watchtower attorney Paul Polidoro said the Supreme Court needed to consider whether California violated the Constitution when it held the Jehovah’s Witnesses responsible for what Simental did “during non-church activity,” forced them to hand over internal communications, and punished them for protecting everyone’s “privacy rights.”
J.W.’s attorney responded to that brief asking the Court to flat-out reject this case.
Indeed, that’s what the Court decided. When the first set of orders in the new term was released yesterday, there was this case among many many others, in the list of those which would not get heard this term.
 
 
It was the right move. There’s nothing further to debate here. Finally, this case has been put to rest.
(Image via Shutterstock. Large portions of this article were published earlier)
   

Keep blowing hot air as you normally do. I don't pay attention to insane people.

I would say, quit while your foot is still in your mouth. I think you have insulted enough people already. Keep it to a minimum. Insulting actual witnesses and not opposers is not the way to go if you are a genuine witness. If not, then show your true colors and not pretend to be something you're not. I think we have enough impostors here already to add more to the mix.

Then you must have a great opinion against yourself. I would suggest learning scripture correctly before telling someone else they got something in scripture wrong. That just means you and your church have a different interpretation of scripture.

Is it the correct one? You give a fine example of what Christ was NOT looking for in the Christian church, Divisions and strife. So how “correct” is your interpretation of scripture is you cannot keep simple commands of Christ.
No different from seeing JWInsider go toe to toe with Arauna because of pride and thinking his argument is better than “facts” presented by others. Self-indulgence is so late year.

Take it however you want, and accept it, Duh! I won't try to justify it that way.
I just happen to have more "respect" for God than just seeing it as sarcasm.

In this case, YES! I think you should know the difference between the word "insult" and the word "rebuke".  Without TTH having to insult people instead of rebuking opposers would be the understanding. I didn't know I needed to spell it out to anyone here. But, I'll make an exception in your case.

Are you telling God what to do? WOW! Setting yourself above God. I haven’t seen such a blasphemous comment. You just condemned your mortal soul, by sinning against God's Holy Spirit. Not to mention God's sovereignty.  I hope it was worth it to you. You can try to apologize, but that kind of sin is unforgivable.

Then you have 5000 prime examples. Just because the owner tolerates those that oppose the ORG is meaningless. You are a fine example of supporting opposers. Then your strength is in your hair, since you no longer have any, your moral strength went with it. I don't find any humor about your cartoons at all. People who think your witty, are encouraging the devils work. I don't find any of that funny.
So, continue blasting those that oppose the opposers. You're no Christian, no more than they are. You're no more a witness than they are. Who are you fooling, yourself. But then again, you always have. No surprise there.

I understand the power you have. You must be confused on whom the bad ones are. Try a little honesty.

 

Anna seems to think you were being sarcastic toward JW’s and Not God. What she “fails” to understand is, I wasn’t referring about JW’s but instead concentrated on your own blasphemous words?

“Its good food until it becomes rotten, and “Jehovah has to come up with new food”

God doesn’t need to provide anything to us humans. He does so, so that we can benefit from his spiritual wisdom. God gave up his son as a sacrifice in order for humanity to have a second chance for internal life. How dare you insinuate as well as Anna that it was meant to be sarcastic toward JW’S?

How dare you command God that he has to come up with new food? That’s what “has to” is, a command. When, did you become above God to order God to do something. An attack to God’s sovereignty as well.

Your blasphemous statement that “Jehovah has to come up with NEW FOOD is a direct attack on God. You have made the, grievous of sins since you attacked God’s Holy Spirit that dispenses that “fine” fruits. IT IS UP TO GOD TO DECIDE IF THAT FRUIT SHOULD BE REVISED FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, NOT YOURS, NOT WITNESS, NOT JWINSIDER, NOT TTH, NOT ANNA, NOT JTR, NOT ANYONE’S BUT HIS ALONE.

Anna might want to dismiss your words. She can’t. She doesn’t have the power to forgive such a sin. She, might think so, but she would only be fooling herself.

People need to start respecting God more here. As for the governing body. They hold, apply, and obey God’s words more than you. You are a sanctimonious and arrogant man that just lost his soul.

This is the kind of Christianity being argued here by opposers? Get behind me Satan. That’s all on you Bub!

Sure do, actions speak louder than words. Your action and behavior is not conducive of a Christian.
 
That's right! There needs to be at least one person to call out all you, opposers and the nonsense you claim in the name of God.
2 Corinthians 10:10-11
Context: Paul's Apostolic Authority

10For some say, “His letters are weighty and forceful, but his physical presence is unimpressive, and his speaking is of no account.” 11Such people should consider that what we are in our letters when absent, we will be in our actions when present.

If you can’t understand scripture, why continue to “slander” 8 men you know nothing about in their personal devotion to the one true God, and how the commission of the Holy Spirit works and who God chooses.

Get over yourself!


 
 
You know me TTH. I couldn't care less. I wasn't referring to the sale of Books but rather sloppy input you receive and poor research points given.
Your team has to answer to God. The good thing, your associates are NOT mind. I don't consider witnesses sitting on the fence witnesses in GOOD standing. Especially those that continue to "agree" with opposer views.

I have. If I was you, I wouldn't bolster that blog!
 
Silly isn't it. Just like paying attention to your nonsense!
 
Don't confuse me with TTH. He has the need for that kind of research. My research is more serious. However, The point was, you don't have an earthly body of Christ (Christ Church) filled with God's people that actually devote their time and lives in the worship of the one true God.
What do you do besides bash and attack 8 men. What earthly Christian conduct does that prove? What part of the Body of Christ can you tether yourself, When Christ would reject you're behavior by his own words. You're no better than Pearl!
That's all you opposers are, excuses and justifications. Use scripture to bolster any false claim.

When did Pearl start receiving direct instruction by God that you can't comprehend, if the 8 men you hate are writing their own doctrine even though "everything" is based on Bible Principle, why would anyone expect to think Pearl's doctrine that she does ADD to scripture cannot be considered the same.
I suppose your internet connection is free to use, to ATTACK that organization. True you're not publicly asking for donations, but, do you have the need to ask for donations in that "oneness" ideology of yours in private. What part of Circumventing Jesus own words of "Unity" continues to fail you.
Does Pearl sell books?

I wouldn't be too quick to mention Idolize, but instead respect for those that God has chosen. No one should admire anyone. It doesn't mean, it doesn't happen here. Sometime, people defend others that gave input toward a book. That doesn't mean it's right. That kind of support doesn't get anyone anywhere with God.
That would be the point. Look at your own actions and behavior. Don't worry about others. They will not be held into account in your behalf, unless you take the Responsibility of the FDS. Something tells me you have a lot to learn about scripture. Point being, the text you just submitted can be applied to you, and witness.

Anna seems to think you were being sarcastic toward JW’s and Not God. What she “fails” to understand is, I wasn’t referring about JW’s but instead concentrated on your own blasphemous words?

“Its good food until it becomes rotten, and “Jehovah has to come up with new food”

God doesn’t need to provide anything to us humans. He does so, so that we can benefit from his spiritual wisdom. God gave up his son as a sacrifice in order for humanity to have a second chance for internal life. How dare you insinuate as well as Anna that it was meant to be sarcastic toward JW’S?

How dare you command God that he has to come up with new food? That’s what “has to” is, a command. When, did you become above God to order God to do something. An attack to God’s sovereignty as well.

Your blasphemous statement that “Jehovah has to come up with NEW FOOD is a direct attack on God. You have made the, grievous of sins since you attacked God’s Holy Spirit that dispenses that “fine” fruits. IT IS UP TO GOD TO DECIDE IF THAT FRUIT SHOULD BE REVISED FOR THE NEXT GENERATION, NOT YOURS, NOT WITNESS, NOT JWINSIDER, NOT TTH, NOT ANNA, NOT JTR, NOT ANYONE’S BUT HIS ALONE.

Anna might want to dismiss your words. She can’t. She doesn’t have the power to forgive such a sin. She, might think so, but she would only be fooling herself.

People need to start respecting God more here. As for the governing body. They hold, apply, and obey God’s words more than you. You are a sanctimonious and arrogant man that just lost his soul.

This is the kind of Christianity being argued here by opposers? Get behind me Satan. That’s all on you Bub!

Follow, admire, and elevate, whatever terminology works for you. That’s why I follow “only” God. If I followed a human and their idea of interpretation of scripture. I wouldn’t call myself Christian. No one should. This is why, I'm confident above all other religions, The Watchtower holds the truth. I am proud to be part of the Org.
If you follow Aruana, that’s up to you, but some people call that stocking. Please don’t compare me with what JWinsider and Anna are doing, it’s beneath your dignity, and insulting to Aruana.
But to a certain extent, you are correct, many in my group do show how fake the news is here, regardless if they get deleted in the end. Somehow, fighting a good fight for God is above anything, here. 1 Timothy 6:12
Since we are no longer friends, then I will add you to the list. I do consider myself a typical soldier of God. Always have been and always will.

It's good you follow a man rather than follow God. That my friend has always been your problem. I don't believe Melinda is the owner. We know who the owner is. I think there is enough "fake news" out there to start a play for it here.
I have no doubt some here consider themselves witnesses. I’m referring between a “good” witness and a “bad” witness. These differences are noticeable.

As for caring, you and most of all the old posters know my stance. It is not a matter of being kind, it becomes a matter of priorities.

When Jesus “rebuked” Peter in Matthew 16:23. Do you think Jesus was being kind or loving? Get behind me Satan, you are a stumbling block to me.

Therefore, Jesus set his priority to his passion.

Then the question becomes, are we being, loving to allow other members distort the truth, just because it’s done anonymously? Doesn’t this mean they bring their own interpretation of scripture to others?

Are we being kind to allow misinformation fester without calling on those with Matthew in mind?

This is the mindset, a scholar as myself consider. I'm not here to research for books, or do weak researches to bolster my view. I defend the truth.

You would think, being on the right side of God would follow a true Christian wherever they are.