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This is obviously untrue. JWs kick their children out if the children disobey the parents or GB / JW org. Those parents demand their children get baptised into the JW org, then when a child goes 'astray' that child is thrown out on the streets without anyone to turn to. Then you wonder why that child will turn to the 'world' to stay alive.

What should we say, or not say about this Tom ? JTR, a JW and online Child pornography.

I wish I could copy and paste something i have on file. Something that @JW Insider uploaded a long time ago. About a young man at Bethel that got himself into a bit of trouble, was d/fed, and then JUMPED IN FROM OF A TRAIN. SUICIDE. So it happens inside the Org and outside. I know of an Elder that commited suicide by running his car engine and inhaling the exaust fumes whilst drinking alcohol.

Yes things in the Watchtower / JW Org are insincere & phony, that's for sure.

Mr Harley, I have no dislike for Almighty God or Jesus Christ. But you are here going back to ye olde Watchtower / JW teachings of the Org being God. That does show how you have been brainwashed tom. Almighty God and Jesus Christ are no part of the Watchtower or JW Org. Therefore i can dislike the GB, the Watchtower and the JW Org, without disliking God and Christ.

Which crusty old atheist is this then, Elder ?

Um let's see now. Tom's words here : Do you think so? I would submit that the entire letter is strange, and all of it might trigger outrage from an intolerant person. Um, me thinks Tom is the pot calling the kettle black. he also answers his own questions.

And you don't think children should have fun and play games ? You don't think children should be allowed to live a 'childhood' ? Of course not, because your Leaders tell you that children must be kept away from the real world. You don't want children to build up their own spiritual immune system.... You want children to be dictated to by parents, that are dictated to by Elders, that are dictated to by , , , the GB / Leaders of the W/t / JW Org. You seem to want this idea that JW parents make their children sit down and copy, 50 copies of a dictated letter. Then those JW parents can happily fill in those lovely little 'ministry forms' for all their children, reporting all the hours their little ones have 'happily' spent doing the GB's will. And you call this serving God. And that is all apart from the legality, even from the Org's viewpoint, of posting letters through people's doors, during a serious virus problem. I do know for sure that the instructions from the Leaders of the Org, is NOT to put things through people's doors, but to post letters through the postal system. I don't think the article makes it clear as to how the letters were received.

MR Russell, when he started the Watchtower, stated that THERE WAS NO NEED OF AN ORGANISATION. It is he, just a man, that your Watchtower / JW Org use as a foundation.

Tom , I do hope you know that this scripture was being spoken to and about the True Anointed ones. Only they are the true Body of Christ.

https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/news/people/edinburgh-residents-targeted-with-handwritten-letters-from-child-members-of-jehovahs-witnesses-brand-the-move-sick-3153697 Residents in Leith who received handwritten letters through their door from Jehovah’s Witnesses members as young as ten-years-old have branded the move ‘sick’. It has emerged that residents in Leith and other areas of the city have been targeted by the group – notorious for door-stepping – by letters written in multiple languages. The man, who had also received a leaflet from the group, who claim to be the ‘one true faith’, said in his comments the move was “sick”. He added: “This is indoctrination of a 10-year-old child. The Jehovah’s Witnesses are a dangerous cult.” full article available on link above. Well I suppose the children have to get their hours in or they will counted as 'inactive' publishers. The Org needs to keep it's number up somehow. BUT if the letters are hand written and then put through doors, they could pass on the Virus, so this might be illegal,

This is where a True Anointed in needed. Because your GB have placed themselves above all others by stating that Only They are the F&DS. Therefore the GB will say everyone else is wrong in their interpretation of God's word.

This is so funny............. The GB have demoted the Anointed ones. The GB have said ONLY THEY are the Faithful and Discreet Slave. The GB have placed themselves above all other people on this Earth by saying only they are God's mouthpiece. And then Anna says "If an individual feels that he is inferior spiritually to someone else" The GB have made everyone spiritually inferior. THE GB expects all JWs to obey them.

What a very sad and un-Christian outlook and judgement of people. Your true colours xero. And you say you are an Elder. You must run a very sad congregation. The Jews had God but they were immoral. The JW Org pretends to have God's approval, but the Org is immoral. Now as you and others think the scriptures are for everyone. Take a few lessons from this. Matthew 5 from verse 44 However, I say to you: Continue to love your enemies and to pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may prove yourselves sons of your Father who is in the heavens, since he makes his sun rise on both the wicked and the good and makes it rain on both the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those loving you, what reward do you have? Are not also the tax collectors doing the same thing? 47 And if you greet your brothers only, what extraordinary thing are you doing? Are not also the people of the nations doing the same thing? 48 You must accordingly be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect. 1, Love your enemies, and those who persecute you; 2, Jesus was making it clear here that people do love their own families. So, if you 'are' a Christian then think on scripture before being so unkind to others.

This was a very childish / emotional comment from you Anna. I often said, and I will repeat, the one thing I've learnt in life is that I do not know the true 'truth' about anything. It is impossible to know true facts of a situation without actually being in the exact location at the time of the action. ( I love the song "In the air tonight" by Phil Collins. The words, "I was there and I saw what you did. Saw it with my own two eyes") That is the only way of knowing truth. And you will know that I did three months 'research' about the JW Org, before I resigned from it. I am not frightened of doing research, but most of it is pointless, because it comes from one side (defense) or the other side (attack), so is never neutral or 100% true. The only worthwhile 'research' is God's written word, but I don't pretend to understand much of it as it was written for the Anointed not for me. Yes it contains some basic instruction for all, but mainly for the Anointed to understand.

How true this is. It reminds me of the misuse of the Romans scripture regarding the Superior Authorities. But xero is showing his true colours once again. Garbage ? The GB does deny free will to anyone that becomes a member of it's Org. They even demand baptism into the Org, not to God, Christ and Holy Spirit, as Jesus instructed. The GB even decide what type of clothing people should wear. And oh dear, remember the Beard problem ?

So if you are not being sarcastic here, then we can actually agree on something. Your GB care more about money than they do about serving God properly. The GB care more about money than they do about people. If fact it seems that the GB care only about money, power and their 'five minutes of fame'. If that is who you want to trust and rely on, then I think you will end up very disappointed. But it's your life.

And you know all the truthful details ???? So tell me why Australia had over 50 years records of Child Sexual Abuse and America GB Lawyers are saying they have 25 years Database. Whereas the Org / Watchtower started in America so should easily have more on record that Australia. Unless the GB are saying that Australia is more perverted than America.

It is not a grey area at all. The ministry is part of the JW 'church activity'. This is easily proven by what is happening right now. Letter writing instead of door to door work. This is instruction by your Leaders as is all ministry. NO grey area at all. Now, what you say about children being the responsibility of the parents. This is where I say that ALL Pedophiles in ALL congregations should be made known to Everyone in the Congregation,(and outside really). Any proven act of abuse reported to Elders should be made known, naming the abuser but not naming the child. But it has been proven that Pedophiles have been hidden in congregations Earthwide, especially Elder pedophiles. So the congregation parents are not to blame for that. Remember that the KH is 'advertised' / spoken of, as being a safe place for families. JWs constantly invite 'new studies' to the KH, telling them what a wonderful and friendly place the KH is. From there JWs invite people into their own homes and on to ministry. It's a 'snowball' effect. More activities, more mixing with others. Therefore everyone should have ALL needed information about dangerous congregants including Elders. Anna, just turn off the JW think for one moment, and look for truth about it all. Look into your heart not into the GB eyes. You know what has gone on in the JW Org. And there is no proof that it has stopped. Why ? Because the Elders still have control over the congregations. and we know what happens if people question the Elders, or if a person complains about being mistreated. D/fed for causing a division in the congregation. Loss of all contact with everyone in the Org.

Well no truth comes from your words, that's for sure. Just as no truth comes from the GB or the Watchtower.

not even funny tom. You and your GB / Org are sick. Spiritually sick. But at least the GB / Lawyers / Watchtower / JW Org et al, are showing their true colours for all the world to see. I hope it helps many more people leave the JW org / congregations.

Yes, well then you know how some of us here feel about your comments don't you.

This is so hypocritical. It would be funny BUT it is very serious. BUT the GB and their Lawyers still refuse to hand over the Pedophile Database in America. And here in UK the Bethel did not want to hand over information, but were taken to court and had to hand it over. And the GB Lawyers have been seen on video whilst in court, Telling Lies. And Elders claim Clergy Penitent Privilege so as not to give evidence against other Elders in court, but then the Org pretends that Elders are not Clergy. So how can Elders claim that privilege if they are not clergy ? Hypocrites.

Ha ha Ha. Yes of course, especially when Elders take other people's children on the ministry and then abuse them out in the countryside. Or Elders take private bible studies with young children and molest the child during the 'study'.

You do realise that Jesus was talking to, and about, the Anointed ones. But that your GB tell those anointed ones NOT TO GATHER TOGETHER. Matthew 13 v 30 Let both grow together until the harvest, and in the harvest season, I will tell the reapers: First collect the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them up; then gather the wheat into my storehouse.’” Maybe we are in that Harvest season right now. And that scripture isn't talking about our own heart, but then you know that. You are just trying to deceive people. And you say you are an Elder ?? Um.....