Patiently waiting for Truth

In the same line of thinking, the GB / Watchtower / JW Org only has a negitive view of everyone outside the Org. Your children are not allowed to play with people from the 'world', the same are told not to go to after school activities with people forn the 'world', young adults are told not to go into higher educaton with people of the 'world'. Adult JWs are told not to mix with people in the 'world' anymore than they have to. The whole JW Org is geared up to distrust people of this world. The ministry is done out of duty to the Org. There is no love of neighbour. And the negitivity shows in your attitude Mr Carroll. As for Hitler, i wouldn't know I've never studied such things. And by the way the topic is not hopes, it is a success story. The success of proving that the GB and Co lied about and tried to keep secret the problem of CSA in the JW Org.

If it's toooooooooooo much for you doggy then go hide in the closet with tom.

https://watchtowerdocuments.org/barbara-andersons-diary/ Barbara is truly a heroic individual to those of us who feel strongly about the abuses of Watchtower and seeing them brought to the light. Twenty years ago today, Barbara appeared on Dateline and launched the exposé uncovering the hidden documents the Watchtower was hiding regarding child sexual abuse. In doing so, Barbara sacrificed much – including the relationship with her only son. Below, is a never-before-published diary spanning the years from 2001-2022, when she aired her story on dateline. We want to thank Barbara for her legendary contributions in research and her continued focus on truth, justice, and taking a stand for what is right. FROM JANUARY 5, 2001 LEADING UP TO DATELINE AIRING MAY 28, 2002 January 2001 Bill Bowen and I decided that we wanted news coverage about the Watchtower’s cover-up of child sexual abuse. We agreed that I would not go public right away. 1-5-01 Friday. Bowen began to tell his story first to a Paducah, KY, newspaper editor. The paper carried his accusations that JWs leaders were covering up child sexual abuse. He appeared on local TV twice and never mentioned my name. After this, former JW Richard Rawe in Washington State, contacted the Louisville, KY, Courier Journal explaining to their Religion Editor, Peter Smith, JWs problems with child sexual abuse pointing to Bowen’s story in Paducah, KY. Smith expressed interest in doing an article. 1-6-01 Saturday. Spoke to “Pinky” and Barbara Pandelos of NJ about their accusations that Watchtower covered up their child’s sexual abuse. They were interested in going public. (I’m losing my voice.) The whole article should be found on the link added. I'm only half way through reaading it as it came to me in an email this morning. Enjoy !

In all the congregations I've been in here in Southern England UK, I've noticed that the kind elders are dominated by the unkind ones. One congregation in Bristol seemed to be run by one Elder, his son and one other. The other Elders just seemed to give up on trying. In that congregation one Elder commited suicide by runnig a pipe from his car exhaust into his lounge and then sitting there drinking alcohol until he died. Soon after his wife married the son of the other prominent Elder. Do i have proof, no, but local papers repoted the death so i supose it would be on record somehwere.

And you are like an Egyptian always in de-Nile

I love this comment It shows the GB brainwashing / training in action. The Org is guilty so you blame every one else.

Does seem very strange when a person can, as i did, just resigned from the JW org. It would seem that a person is being asked to be 'punished' by the Edlers for some reason.... Does it not go against 'company policy' though for Elders to not disfellowship a non repentant sinner.

Well it's nice to know you think about me when you are in your closet. i actually have spent a lot of today reading from the book of Matthew. The more times i read it the more I notice different things, but there is no point in starting new topics as none of you have spiritual thoughts to offer. Hence my new topics tend to be about physical things going on regarding the Org. As for offering nothing possitive, what you actually mean is 'not offering anything that You agree with'. However i never read anything spiritual from you. Maybe you keep it in the closet like Micheal Jackson.

Or a choice to be immoral as many JWs are.

I'd like you to explain that a little deeper. The true congregation of God is the true Anointed. And if you think that your Closed Club is the 'house of God' then you are indeed insulting YHWH. Quote "for those who have given their all in Jehovah’s service". I think you mean 'for those that have given their all in the GB / JW Org service, which does not serve YHWH in a pure way.

Yes we know the Scriptures, but they are from GOD, not from your GB. You pretend that your GB are the only ones that know anythig about scripture. If you want to believe that your GB are the F&DS and that they are the ones to guide YOU then so be it. Of course i know Armageddon is coming and the world conditions are getting much worse. But i do not trust your GB or the helpers, or the Watchtower magazine, to guide me. However i do believe that Yeshua will provide guidance for those he wishes to know truth.

Well done Mr Tom. Go hide in the closet. It must be funny in there, JWs all telling each other how wonderful their F&DS are. All hail the F&DS, bow down and worship them. Keep building your castles on the sand as you people do not know what solid foundation is.

My Carroll you are a funny man, sad but funny.

Denying the truth about the MEN and Org you worship and serve will not save you at Armageddon.

From Russell onward it was 50% propaganga. Rutherford created more propaganda and the Leaders of the Watchtower / JW Org have continued it. And yes it damaged many live in the process. All the lies about Armageddon in the the 1960's and early 70's which caused people to lose their homes and jobs, to do a 'preaching work' which was lies. Then more propaganda about Armageddon happening before the year 2000. @Anna has mentioned the propaganda although not calling it as such. ...... Yes we know the world belongs to the Devil, but it seems the same with the Org and it's leaders right now.

Um racist. I'll leave it at that.

The Watchtower / JW org is also known by it's works of, Child Sexual Abuse, hiding Pedophiles in congregations, using Clergy Penetant but then pretending not to be priests, lying about Armageddon, making up rules to control the congregation, Shunning innocent people, et al. So indeed, the Watchtower / JW org must be in opposition to YHWH and to Yeshua.

Why confused @Pudgy ? Membership is counted on Report slips put in, and parents put in Report slips for children of 5 years old upward, or possibly younger. Some families have 5 children, so including two adults that is 7 report slips per family. That is how the numbers are made up. Adults leave the Org so they now have to count all the children to pretend that numbers haven't decreased. And Children of 5 or 6 are being baptised into the JW org now. Even though they say they 'don't do child baptism'.

And probably one thind of them are UNDER 12 YEARS OF AGE.

I'm so far behind the times i'd never even heard of this. And no i am not a member. https://saysorry.org/about/ SAYSORRY.ORG About ‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community. Accountability and change has been achieved by the Say Sorry Team through a range of activities including: awareness, education, campaigns, public speaking, conferences, submissions to parliamentary inquiries, assisting with the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission, working with governmental and statutory authorities, advising law enforcement agencies, lobbying, legal action, and prosecutions. For the past 12 years the team behind ‘Say Sorry’ have provided up-to-date factual and unique content to international law enforcement agencies, government departments, politicians, inquiries, royal commissions, law firms, and the media. We also provide non-legal advice for investigations, civil lawsuits, and prosecutions involving the Watch Tower Society and the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The ‘Say Sorry’ website was re-launched on 26 July 2018 to highlight our current work and to provide an information and news platform for those concerned about the activities of the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. The sole owner and administrator of the website is Steven Unthank. About ‘Say Sorry’ exposes and holds accountable the Watch Tower Society and those leaders within the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization that disregard and violate the laws of the land, or that cause religious harm to sections of the community. Accountability and change has been achieved by the Say Sorry Team through a range of activities including: awareness, education, campaigns, public speaking, conferences, submissions to parliamentary inquiries, assisting with the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission, working with governmental and statutory authorities, advising law enforcement agencies, lobbying, legal action, and prosecutions. For the past 12 years the team behind ‘Say Sorry’ have provided up-to-date factual and unique content to international law enforcement agencies, government departments, politicians, inquiries, royal commissions, law firms, and the media. We also provide non-legal advice for investigations, civil lawsuits, and prosecutions involving the Watch Tower Society and the Church of Jehovah’s Witnesses. The ‘Say Sorry’ website was re-launched on 26 July 2018 to highlight our current work and to provide an information and news platform for those concerned about the activities of the Watch Tower Society and Jehovah’s Witnesses. The sole owner and administrator of the website is Steven Unthank. The Australian Royal Commission into Institutional Responses to Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Final Report, published in December 2017, that the Jehovah’s Witnesses in Australia had a reported 1,800 child sexual abuse victim files[1] within a membership of 68,000. By contrast, the Catholic Church in Australia had a reported 4,444 child sexual abuse victim files[2] within a membership of 5.3 million. The British Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse stated in its Truth Project Thematic report (May 2019) on page 25 that “out of the sample of 1,697 participants, 133 reported that sexual abuse took place within a religious institution. In these cases, Church of England (28%) and Catholic institutions (25%) were most commonly cited, with Jehovah’s Witnesses (11%) the third most frequent.”[3] It is also our hope that one day the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses will “say sorry” by acknowledge their errors and by adopting a culture of acting lawfully, ethically and in a socially responsible manner. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Say Sorry wins long running courtroom battle against a ‘prolific’ and ‘unrelenting’ stalker This was the heading of an email i received from Watchtower Documents ths morning. I have not reaserched this organisation and as such I am not promoting it, just putting it up here as information.

Strange. i just an email this morning about this from Watchtower Documents.

I would love to agree with you but.............. I still keep coming back to these two things. 1. Ten men clinging to the skirt of a Jew (spiritual Jew obviously) We will go with you as we know God is with you. 2. Berean Study Bible‘In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. Even on My menservants and maidservants I will pour out My Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. Acts 2 : 17 & 18 Hence i believe some type or Organised Activity (not necessarily an Organisation) has to take place before Armageddon. I am not like the protestors that want to destoy everything but replace with nothing. I know there is a need to be organised. BUT of course there needs to be 'signs' that the organising comes from God through Christ.

Your comment has no relevance to mine. 1. The preaching work should be directly from God's Scriptures, not preaching the 'good news' of the GB / JW org. 2. Baptism should be "In the name of the Father, the Son & the Holy Spirit" NOT batism into the JW Org. 3. supporting Christ's Brothers would mean knowing who they are BUT they are told to keep quiet and not make themselves known. Only the GB members are known (possibly) anointed ones. So that Pure worship quote is slying saying 'support the GB' but pretending to say support the Anointed. To wrap that all up neatly, that Pure w book is saying 'Teach what the GB tells you to teach, Get baptised into the organsation, and be a slave to the GB.

How wrong you are blind man. You see your GB, Elders and Org in a way that you wish to see them, but not in true light. I will now add @Arauna to this comment. But of course you are a lady not a man.

Very domineering indeed. Because the so called, 'preaching work' is actually just handing out the Governing Body's written words, not God's. The baptism is getting baptised into the JW org. AND, the only one's of Christ's brothers we get to know about is the Governing Body who call themsleves the F&DS. So it all very slyly comes together as, be a slave of the GB and it's org.