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  1. A question or two. The Anointed are 'a temple' 'the temple' each one is an individual temple' ??? 1 Corinthians 6:19 Berean Literal BibleOr do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit in you, whom you have from God? And you are not your own, 1 Peter 2 : 9 Berean Study BibleBut you are a chosen people, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for God’s own possession, to proclaim the virtues of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light. Revelation 1 : 5b - 6 To him who loves us and who set us free from our sins by means of his own blood— 6 and he made us to be a kingdom, priests to his God and Father—yes, to him be the glory and the might forever. Amen. The original 'Temple' was of course a physical building. But what it the spiritual Temple ? Is this 'new' Temple the same as the Kingdom ? Or is each individual Anointed one a separate Temple ? Is there 144,000 temples that make up the Kingdom, or is it one Temple ?
  2. Everybody's 'facts' are different. Hence you are not a JW. If, as it seems, no one is inspired of God's Holy Spirit right now, then it would seem that no one knows true facts.. Even on this forum everyone's facts are different. And even amongst the JWs on here they disagree on facts. But if you want scriptural fact, then it seems Jesus said, recorded at Luke 17 : 21 Berean Literal Biblenor will they say, 'Behold here,' or 'There.' For behold, the kingdom of God is in your midst." So, how can you say that the Kingdom did not exist whilst Jesus walked this Earth, when Jesus said it did.
  3. I agree with what you say that the Anointed are God's temple. The scriptures make that very clear to those that want to understand it. But why do people believe that the JW Org holds every member of the anointed remnant ? And what do you think will be the way out ? Will the JW Org be cleansed or will a new Association be formed ? We certainly need a True Anointed remnant to lead us to truth through Christ, before the 'end comes'. It might be nice to think we can do it on our own as individuals, but I really think we need to be part of an association.
  4. Um, I think this might be what @Arauna calls 'lumping scriptures together'. And I think Mr Rambo is clutching at straws here. He's still stuck fast to 1914 and the 120 years = 2034. This seems to have already happened to JWs in Russia and a few other places.
  5. I've just been reading, here in England, that the UK plan on making BRIT Coin. I don't know if it's a joke or not.
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    Cable network Vice TV announced a new documentary special on Jehovah’s Witnesses that’s set to air later this month on July 28. Vice Versa: Crusaders examines the global religious organization, its carefully curated message of faith and its nearly unblemished public veneer, and investigates alleged corruption within the organization and its work to shame, silence and ostracize others. Kaufman is himself a former third-generation Jehovah’s Witness who faced shunning from his family after starting a four-year investigation into the religion’s handling of allegations of child sexual abuse within its congregations. “After witnessing firsthand the cycle of abuse that runs deep within the Jehovah’s Witnesses, I could not rest until the dark truth of this organization was brought to light,” Kaufman said in a Vice news release. “Vice Versa: Crusaders exposes those who use their immense power and influence to maintain control in the name of God.” The documentary includes revealing interviews with whistleblowers, former members and one current witness, as well as access to leaked documents.
  6. Thank you for your time and patience, and for your opinion. The points of, when Jesus became King and about, when the Kingdom first started, are important to me. And the point about 1914, in my opinion, should be important to everyone that is searching for truth. But please compare that with the JW viewpoint about the Cross or the Stake. Also compare it with certain people on this forum that 'brag' about JWs 'knowledge' concerning, the trinity, immortality of the soul, hell fire etc... The Watchtower / Org enjoys making known such things, but maybe not so happy when their own teachings are questioned. Whilst I do admit that the Watchtower / Org has made things clearer to those that may have believed in the mainstream church teachings, have the same W/t / Org replaced untruth with, untruth ? As the Watchtower / GB / Org keep pushing 1914 as one of their 'Core beliefs' or main doctrines, then it is obviously a foundation stone on which the JW Org is standing. If this foundation stone were to crumble, would the JW Org fall ? I have personally got to the point where I care not if the W/t / JW Org stands or falls, because it is not important. What is important is TRUTH. ALL people on earth right now deserve to be taught truth. Truth about God and Christ, and about 'the things which are about to take place'. That truth has to be based on a firm truthful foundation. Once again thank you for your input.
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    = St. Jean Baptiste Parish and the Kateri,on church run residential graves all throughout Canada. Not JW related, but related to abuse and death of many children it would seem. Hopefully all of those children will rise again in the Resurrection once this Earth has been made clean. In the last nine days there has been a total of eight churches that have been burned down in Canada. All eight of the churches were settled on the First Nation’s reserve in Western Canada and authorities have declared that the fires were caused by “suspicious activity”. St. Jean Baptiste Parish and the Kateri Tekakwitha Church were the latest churches to be burned down and were completely destroyed due to the fact the churches were made of wood. The fires come after unmarked graves have been discovered on church run residential graves all throughout Canada.
  7. Um, it was your words that caused my comment. So it seems that it's you that did the judging here and wrote about money. Although I agree with your words.
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    The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society has run into problems in its copyright lawsuit against the pseudonymous creator of the animation series 'Dubtown'. The videos, which portray a fictional Jehovah's Witness town depicted in Lego, are created by 'Kevin McFree', but Watch Tower doesn't know who he is or where he lives, and nobody wants to help, including the court. Lego JWs ? The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society, the supervising body and publisher for the Jehovah’s Witness religious group, wants to put an end to the activities of a defendant known only as ‘Kevin McFree’. ‘McFree’ (which is presumably not his real name) is the creator of the ‘Dubtown’ series of stop-motion Lego animations that take place in a fictitious Jehovah’s Witness town. Who is McFree? Watch Tower Has No Idea In a request for conference filed with the Court, Watch Tower says McFree “obtained purloined copies” of then-published videos and placed clips of those works in his video posted to YouTube. This amounts to copyright infringement and warrants a permanent injunction, Watch Tower says, but the road to that currently remains uncertain. According to Watch Tower, it cannot ascertain the real identity of McFree. “The true identity and physical address of Defendant are not presently known to Plaintiff. The Infringing Video and YouTube account associated therewith identify Defendant only by the pseudonym ‘Kevin McFree’ and do not provide any physical address,” Watch Tower writes. According to the religious group, it has made numerous attempts to discover McFree’s personal details. Referencing the 2018 DMCA subpoena application to YouTube/Google that requested access to McFree’s real name, address, telephone number and other personal information, Watch Tower notes that the process didn’t lead anywhere useful. Sorry, I think this is so funny because my wife makes stop motion videos of Pippa dolls and uploads them to Youtube.
  8. Thank you, but I have little or no trust in the Aid book So that would say, that as I've said, Jesus was King from his baptism onward and the Kingdom was in existence here on Earth at that time. But neither I nor the Watchtower / Aid book writers are inspired of God's Holy Spirit. But we come back to the point, that if, it appointed and commissioned him as Jehovah’s promised King, then and there at His baptism, then why do the Watchtower / GB / Org say he was made King in 1914 ? From that same item you quoted / linked :- "Following his resurrection, Jesus informed his disciples, “All authority has been given me in heaven and on the earth,” thereby showing that he heads a government of universal domain. (Matt. 28:18) The apostle Paul made clear that Jesus’ Father has “left nothing that is not subject to him [Jesus],” with the evident exception of “the one who subjected all things to him,” that is, Jehovah, the Sovereign God. " But, Jesus spoke those words whilst still human and here on earth. So it seems that whomever wrote this Watchtower Aid book section would have known that Jesus was King whilst Jesus was alive here on earth. So please tell me about 1914 ? What am I not understanding ?
  9. Indeed only Almighty God through Jesus Christ can be trusted. But all the while the Watchtower / JW org are dealing in Property / Real Estate and building their 'temples' of Warwick and Ramapo. They have taken over ownership of ALL Kingdom Halls so that congregations own nothing. Oh and something I thought was funny. The GB seem to be 'chasing' some guy because he is making LEGO stop motion videos, about a pretend JW town. The Watchtower lawyers cannot find out the real name of the video maker so can't sue him, but they are still trying The Watchtower love to sue people in 'worldly' court rooms it seems, buy they hate to pay out compensation to victims of CSA. So yes, don't trust organizations 'that make money in this system'.
  10. I do not agree with this. (highlighted for the benefit of others) My reasoning is that the scriptures say that God / Christ will bring to ruin those ruining the Earth. And there has to be a complete Judgement of ALL people living on the earth so that the earth can be cleansed. This has to be done all at one time. If Armageddon was 'within' as you say then the 'world' would continue to be ruled over by the Devil and suffering would continue forever.
  11. But JWs say that the Kingdom was set up in 1914. Whereas Jesus was anointed as King at his baptism and in some ways made it known to the Pharisees whilst He was still alive saying 'The kingdom of God is amongst you'. Jesus told his disciple (John 10 : 16) Berean Study Bible"I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd." And the 120 chosen ones, at Pentecost 33 A.D, became part of that Kingdom at that time. My point being that Spiritual Israel / the Kingdom, started with the baptism of Jesus and then the anointing of the 120 at Pentecost in 33 A.D. So why do the Watchtower / JW org say the Kingdom started in 1914 ? I'm trying to get people's personal feelings on this, but people (JWs) seem frightened to give an answer.
  12. I didn't know God had made you His spokesperson. You suddenly know what is ok in God's eyes ? Perhaps you should be running the Org then because your GB seem to demand more from people
  13. So the Watchtower/GB/JW Org will always be wrong by basing everything on 1914. And again they will be wrong because their agenda is to gain and keep power for themselves and their big businesses and real estate. Even Bro Rando seems to have an agenda about predicting a new date for the Judgement Time. Most JWs want the 'end to come' because they think they are 'safe' inside the Org. That alone is an agenda. But then we probably ALL have personal agendas.
  14. Humans know different types of 'love' but I don't think humans understand love from God's perspective. God's ways are far higher than human ways. And this also, we can only see from a human perspective. Arauna replied to me once that 'humans are important', but I think not in comparison to the Universal issue. It would seem that millions of humans will die at the Judgement time, and it will be a necessary 'operation'. A bit like clearing a building site before building a nice new house. Many humans cannot handle thinking about it, they see it as hateful / cruel.. And in reality I think many JWs try not to think about it. But, God will do what God will do to solve the Universal issue.
  15. Yes, but it's the Watchtower / GB / JW org that complicate matters. By adding traditions of men and man made rules those men put stumbling blocks in the way of Accepting Jesus as the Christ.
  16. BUT, how are they seeking this knowledge ? The scriptures mention "Ten men clinging to the robe of a JEW" But who are the 'JEW' in question ? Of course i know it's not literal Jews, it's referring to 'spiritual' Jews. But unfortunately the GB / Watchtower / JW Org believe it is only them that will be saved. It seems that you do not agree with them on that point.
  17. You seem to miss the whole point of the questions. I know Jesus 'received' Holy Spirit at his baptism. My point was, was Jesus Anointed then. And the same with the 120 in the Upper room. Yes they received Holy Spirit, but were they Anointed then ? The point being if they were Anointed then they became part of the Kingdom at that time. @JW Insider I would like your honest personal opinion about this and it would be nice to know the Watchtower teaching on this too. Would you be kind enough to read it from the top of page.
  18. Russell and the IBSA were NO part of the JW world. It was Rutherford that 'stole' part of the association from the IBSA and, against the previous wishes of Russell, changed the whole way of running that Association, turning it into an Organsation. Why JWs quote Russell, who was nothing to do with them, I do not know. Yes the Leaders / GB / Watchtower / JW Org has indeed been cowardly over the last 100 + years. Pretending that Armageddon was coming in 1941, early 70's, before the end of the century (2000). And pretending that a person must be a baptised JW to be saved. It's called fear mongering and yes it's very cowardly.
  19. Yep, good idea. My wife and I spend such time in the garden, taking photos of the flowers and birds and insects, all are God's creations. Photos are great for memory as flowers are soon gone. I also spend time in prayer, saying thank you to God for creating us in a way that we appreciate his other creations.... All much better than arguing about things that are meant for the True Anointed to understand and not for us.
  20. I think it's a few years away yet. God or Jesus Christ has to either cleanse the JW Org or form a new 'Association of Brothers'. To cleanse the JW Org the CSA problem would need completely removing, and it's not enough just to do that, but it has to 'be seen to be done'. The public would have to KNOW that the JW Org had God's approval. '10 men clinging to the skirt of a JEW' The GB would have to hand over that Pedophile Database which they are pretending doesn't exist. Then ALL the pedophiles in the Org would have to face their crimes, probably in court rooms. Yes it would take God's Holy Spirit to cleanse the JW Org or to form a new Association of Brother, but it has to be done to give people a chance of 'coming to know God properly' before the Judgement. JWs cannot grasp that people know about the CSA / Pedophile problem in the JW Org, and it is a BIG STUMBLING BLOCK to people. So, the GB and their 'helpers' are blood guilty because they have created this stumbling block. Luke 17 : 1, Jesus said to his disciples: “Things that cause people to stumble are bound to come, but woe to anyone through whom they come.
  21. I laughed, but in reality it's very sad. Then he said to his disciples: “Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few. 38 Therefore, beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest.” This was in the time Jesus was here on Earth. Why can't the GB / Leaders see this ? Because they are not guided or inspired of God's Holy Spirit
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