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    César Chávez reacted to Pudgy in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    "They" say that a dog ages seven times faster than a human, which is actually good for dogs with loving Guardians, as we almost never die alone, as do many humans.
    Of course, I do not know what my age multiplier if any is ..... as I am a Cartoon Dog.
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in A New World approaches...   
    You webpage looks very dark with the black background, to the point of looking evil. 
    You call it JW Forum but is it GB approved ?  The Devil works in many ways, even pretending to work against himself. 
    I think you are from your father the Devil. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Matthew9969 in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Yes you can see the lovely union they boast to have:)
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Arauna in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Most apostates have hate-OCD.  It seems you fall in that category. Don't bother to answer because I will not respond, I do not have time for nutty games.
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Oh dear, well it's a bit different to being called an apostate, I'm now being called a troll. You do let your emotions over rule your common sense, but then the truth always hurts JWs. 
    Split personalities it seems. Serve the GB by preaching what you are told to preach, but then not believe what you are preaching. I think @JW Insider has given examples of this in the past. 
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Maybe you are right:
    (2 Timothy 3:13) . . .But wicked men and impostors will advance from bad to worse, misleading and being misled.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    I just noticed some newbie NoisySrecko created new account and, imagine, down-voted your comment. Must be some troll and clone who want to create chaos. :))
    Name Srecko is specific and rare even in Croatia. To use it here in a small community / forum (JW Open Club) in English language, it must be some attempt to divert attention, intent to undermine, manipulate, cast doubt, etc. Similar to when Real- JWInsider appeared. It must be how we really "living in The Last Days" :)) hehe
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Sorry for all the smiley faces, but this is all so funny about the names and AKA's. 
    It's sad that some on here have lost family members and close friends in death. The hope of the resurrection is real of course but the loss is still heavy on the heart.  
    This is a good point from both sides. My wife and I love to be together, but apart from everyone else. We just like our time together, just the two of us. We never did like meetings, too may people, too much noise. We are not ones for going to mass gatherings. Attending assemblies, especially when the five children were young, was horrid.  So maybe we wouldn't enjoy the 'paradise' so much  .   Unless we were given a small plot of land away from 'the madding crowd'.  But then some folks on here tell me I won't get the chance anyway.................. 
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Arauna in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Your personal (and very important!) opinion!...... that is why you spend your time trolling websites like this!  LOL
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    It's quite funny to read here JWs are disagreeing with each other over many things.  Well those who say they are JWs anyway. They even disagree with each other over the history of their own religion.  Carry on folks it's good for a laugh. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Not true. The GB / Leaders of the multi Orgs are changing the meanings of Jesus' words. Because by changing so called 'understanding' they are changing what is being preached or taught. Hence they destroy old books and and replace with different teachings. I think they even try to pretend now that all JWs are part of the 'body of Christ'. 
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    It truly is a ridiculous notion, but unfortunately it also happens to be a true notion.
    I have never banned anyone, nor do I wish to, nor do I have the power to do that.
    No, of course not. But you are most definitely the same person who uses the account @César Chávez, @WyattEarp @Allen_Smith, @TheNonstoptheo etc., etc.
    I am not the the Librarian. I only have one account here.
    BTW, In addition to the way your log-ins and log-outs show up in the "Recently Browsing" portion of the page, you also give "yourselves" away in several other ways, too.
    For example, look how you spelled the word "too" as "to" just on this very same page:
    Also, note your unique style of adding a few extra, unnecessary commas, which has given many people pause in almost every one of the accounts I mentioned along with about 20 additional accounts over the past few years, too.
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Always gives him away 😂
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    And here is another one! (Comma in an unusual place)
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    César Chávez reacted to TrueTomHarley in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    That old hen.
    hehehe :)))))
    You’re joking! She’d rather be dead forever?
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    Can you explain it here?
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    César Chávez reacted to Anna in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    The thing is, what do we imagine this actually means in practice? We used to say that Babylon the great was  "destroyed" in 1914 because supposedly its "power" was removed and enabled true religion to come out from it's bondage to false beliefs. So what do we imagine it means now? For governments to turn on religion and literally "destroy" it seems a very far fetched concept, especially where the religion IS an intrinsic part of a government such as Islam. Also, the United States have religious freedom written into their beloved constitution. What about India? How would Hinduism be "destroyed" there? And what about Catholicism in Italy, Brazil etc. where it plays a major part in historical traditions? The masses are not able to be controlled by anyone, especially not in representative democratic countries. Try stopping someone practicing their religion in those countries. The only way this could happen is if they all became socialist dictatorships.....and then banned all forms if religion, totally. I don't envisage any of this happening in the near future, realistically. 
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Project in such a sensitive time?  Wait.  The time was sensitive for my family when the letter was received from a JW in March.   Perhaps it is that JW who shouldn't have projected at such a sensitive time.
    As you say,
    But thank you Allen, for your condolences.  It's the nicest thing I've ever heard you say.  
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    César Chávez reacted to JW Insider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    I was tempted to say something that might clarify that @Real-JWinsider is actually just one more "troll" persona for @Allen_Smith, @Ray Devereaux, @BillyTheKid-55, @César Chávez, @Dotlizhihii Tlenaai, @divergenceKO, @Sean Migos, etc., etc., etc., & et cetera.
    Several of his additional accounts have been used as nothing more than shills to up-vote his own accounts (and down-vote anything that exposes him). This doesn't mean everything he has said under those other accounts is wrong. Some of it has been useful and even insightful in my opinion.
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    César Chávez reacted to Srecko Sostar in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Please accept my deepest condolences for your loss.
     

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    César Chávez reacted to Matthew9969 in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    One of my older sisters died just a few weeks ago, (she was only 59), my jw mom kept on and on about how she will be in paradise. However my sis believed she did not want to be in paradise with nothing but jws' around. I was polite and didn't divulge this to my mom.
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    César Chávez reacted to Real-JWinsider in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Perhaps witness, you should properly grieve for the loss of your younger brother, instead of using his death to advance your criticism of a Christian congregation and a letter.
    If you, already know, how the majority of Christendom thinks about heaven, which is a false ideology according to scripture, there is no need to project in such a sensitive time.
    That goes for JW’s to. Don’t pile on. It’s beneath us all as imperfect humans to bolster our imperfection at this time.
    My condolences for your lose!
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    Well, it’s not necessary to endure to the end…of what I wrote. 🙂
    Throw you a bone?  The “man of lawlessness” that rules over the spiritual Temple dwelling of God (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22), is the elder body.  Gerrit Loesch has his own ideas of just who God’s Temple consists of.  It appears to be new light, not formally announced as such.
     
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    César Chávez reacted to Witness in IN RESPONSE TO A LETTER FROM A JW   
    When my youngest brother died just recently, the family received a letter from a local JW. JWs tend to scour the obituaries and promote the organization’s website, as the source for all spiritual comfort and answers. The letter was handed over to me, since my family knows my history as a JW.  Amazingly, it did not contain even one scripture, but only reference to the website. This is my reply, sent off to the JW.
    Hello,
    My family received a letter from you regarding my brother’s death. I appreciate the intention, but you were writing to Catholics who believe that people go to heaven when they die. The resurrection hope is difficult for them to piece together with their belief that heaven awaits fellow believers, so they presently feel my brother is in heaven.
    As you say, those in the memorial tombs will be resurrected to eternal life. They are those whom even in death, are among the “living”. (Mark 12:26,27) 
    But, there are others whom Jesus said,
    “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’ Matt 7:21-23
    We know that these people say they believe in the Son, and obey his teachings, but Jesus reveals their lawless acts. (2 Cor 11:4;2 Thess 2:3,4,8-10) We are told that in the last days, false teachers and false prophets will mislead the “elect”. These elect, are the anointed ones, the chosen royal priesthood of God. (1 Pet 2:5,9) (“elect”, Strong's G1588 – “chosen”) All the anointed priests, except those who have left or been disfellowshipped, are found in the organization. No other religion can be said to have in their midst, authentic anointed “kings of the earth”. (Rev 1:5; 5:9,10; 21:22-24) 
    How then, can the anointed be misled if they belong to the “Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses”? There have been many doctrinal changes throughout the years, all previously taught as truth, but later discarded. This is a clear sign of rotten fruit/teachings that governing leaders/false teachers offer to the flock. (Matt 7:15-19; John 15:7,8,16) One of the more recent changes concerned a new identity and appointment of the “faithful and discreet slave” – a “faithful steward” over the spiritual house of God. This “slave” has a large group of helpers, including all elders worldwide, who have been given the authority to rule over God’s anointed priests, basically backing them into a corner, and out of sight. (Isa 30:20) It has been clarified that the elder body “represent sthe royal priesthood”. This position created by men, cannot be “challenged”, as the provided wt. magazine states – w02 8/1 p. 13-14 
    Jesus is the chief cornerstone of the Temple/dwelling of God. (Isa 28:16; 1 Pet 2:6) With him, are the foundation stones of apostles and prophets. (1 Cor 3:10,11; Eph 2:20) As the years have gone by since the first century, faithful anointed “living stones” have been sealed into God’s spiritual House. (Matt 7:24; Eph 2:21,22; 2 Cor 1:22; Heb 12:22; Rev 7:4) 
    These anointed people were sent by Christ to teach and “witness” about his word of truth. (John 14:6; 13:20; Mal 2:7; Matt 28:18-20; 2 Cor 4:2; Eph 4:15;2 Tim 2:19) 
    Yes, the anointed are the authentic “witnesses” of God. Setting up a representation or substitute of this priesthood does not follow the teachings of Christ. Rather, in each account of the Bible where foreigners - Gentiles - entered the early temple, or those other than God’s chosen priesthood, acted as priests, destruction occurred. (Ezek 44:6-9;2 Chron 13:9) You may want to read the account of Korah as reiterated in the article I mentioned. (Num 16:3-7,10,11,18,20,21,35,40) 
    How would Jesus Christ view spiritual “Gentiles” replacing those whom he had already sent – those who are members of his spiritual Body? (2 Cor 11:4; Gal 5:25,24; 3:29; Rom 8:14,16,17) In the last days, the “man of lawlessness” sets itself up in the Temple of God. (2 Thess 2:3,4) It “stands where it does not belong”. (Mark 13:14; Rev 13: 5-7,18) This “man” is the elder body. “He” is the enemy from the north; not Russia, which targets JWs, anointed or not, in one country. (Joel 2:2,7-9; Rev 9:3-6) 
    The enemy of God’s people are those who surround them – all of them, which is the elder leadership in the organization. (Rev 20:7-10) If an anointed priest speaks against the teachings of the governing body because those teachings are wrong, they can be spiritually “killed” - judged by the elder body, and disfellowshipped. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12,15) The elders do not have God’s approval to remove His priests, and spiritually “sit”/rule over His dwelling in spirit. (1 Cor 3:16,17) If they did, would there be a need to state that the elders’ position as counterfeit “priests”, cannot be challenged? 
    John 16:2 – “They will put you out of the synagogues and make you outcasts. And a time is coming when whoever kills you will think that he is offering service to God.”
    These scriptures describe the anointed:
    “You are My witnesses,” declares the Lord, “And my servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.” Isa 43:10
    “You, like living stones, are being built up into a spiritual house for a holy and dedicated priesthood, to offer spiritual sacrifices that are acceptable and pleasing to God through Jesus Christ.” 1 Pet 2:5
    This priesthood should be busy teaching the truth – truth that is to remain, which was poured into their heart upon anointing. (John 15:16; 1 John 2:27) They are not to be submissive to men, who are appointed by men through the spurious use of God’s word. (Rom 14:4; Gal 1:10; Col 2:20-23; 2 Cor 11:20) Their spiritual offerings, or sacrifices of praise, should not be regulated or dissolved by a select few, who have replaced Jesus as their Head. (Dan 8:11,12; 11:31) 
    A faithful steward of a house gleans provisions from all sources. He is not the accountant and the cook, and gardener. He is the manager of all provisions offered by his fellow servants, and ensures their quality. (Luke 16:1,2; Rom 12:8; 1 Cor 4:1,2; Titus 1:7) 
    Jesus’ parable of a wicked steward that is too ashamed to “dig” or seek out provisions from Christs servants, is the present scenario in the organization today. (Luke 16:3) In their arrogance, only what is approved by the governing body as spiritual food, is offered. (Rev 13:11,12,17) What is interesting about this, is they don’t hesitate to utilize an “uncircumcised” “Gentile” writing committee to do their writing for them, yet they do not call on their anointed brothers and sisters to add their spiritual offerings. (Rom 2:28,29; Heb 8:10) Is it because they have no faith in what they cannot see? They see the men they have personally appointed, without letting the spirit of God direct them to those whom He has personally appointed through the anointing. (Eph 4:7-11) 
    “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a consecrated nation, a special people for God’s own possession, so that you may proclaim the excellencies the wonderful deeds and virtues and perfections of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light.” 1 Pet 2:9
    “Once you were not a people, but now you are the people of God; once you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.” 1 Pet 2:10
    Do you see who the authentic witnesses and holy people of God are? These people have been told that they cannot bond together to study the scriptures. (see wt 16/1 p. 24) Can you imagine Jesus Christ telling the members of his Body that they must not join together to study his teachings? (The entire chapter of 1 Cor 12)
    “So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.” Eph 4:11-13
    The Body of Christ is the Temple and dwelling of God. (2 Cor 6:16) Are all JWs part of that temple? No, only spiritual “Israel”, whom Jesus has sent to teach the people His truths, not the doctrines of men. (Mal 2:7;1 Pet 2:9;1 Tim 1:3;6:3-5) If you can recognize this lawlessness of the elder body replacing and trampling down the appointed priesthood of God, you are to flee!
    Dan 11:31; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1-3 
    I’m sure you didn’t expect such a letter in response to yours. However, please consider the plight of God’s anointed people. They are “Israel”, and this spiritual nation has not only fallen into sin by accepting the leadership of a wicked slave, but have dedicated their lives to an organization as their way of salvation. (Jer 30:12-14; Exod 20:4;Acts 7:48;17:24,25,29-30; Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4) 
    You also, have been captivated by such lawlessness, prophesied to happen in the last days. (2 Thess 2:9-12; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10; 18:4-8) 
    These anointed inside the organization, have been cut off from their Head, Jesus Christ. (Dan 8:25) But on the outside, God’s Temple of truth, “Zion”, under the direction of Jesus Christ, is being restored. Now, is the time of the restoration of “Jacob”. (Neh 1:7,9,10; Jer 30:3; Isa 48:20,21;49:5; 31:7; Mal 3:1; Matt 22:1-5,14; Jer 31:14) 
    Sign of the End
     
     
     

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    César Chávez reacted to Arauna in The Final Phase of Christ's Presence soon to be revealed...   
    I do not completely agree - wait until there are food shortages and more lockdowns etc.... and more tyranny.  This is the beginning of the great tribulation.  If you know what happened in Jerusalem lockdowns (sieges) then you will have a good inkling of what is waiting for mankind on a worldwide scale.
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