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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Witness in Conscience individual and collective   
    Really. I wonder what your definition of "apostate" is; someone who rejects the Wt, or someone who rejects God and Christ.  Or, do you meld the two together which defines the person leaving the organization as unable to lead a moral or religious life?  
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Srecko Sostar in Conscience individual and collective   
    Manasseh was twelve years old when he became king, and he reigned in Jerusalem fifty-five years. His mother’s name was Hephzibah.  He did evil in the eyes of the Lord, following the detestable practices of the nations the Lord had driven out before the Israelites. 
    Verse suggests he was bad (evil) already with 12 years of age. At what age does someone become "despicable" (fake) JW or ex-JW ? :)) 
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Srecko Sostar in Conscience individual and collective   
    I will use @Witness quote of A. Morris wording: “Despicable apostates" – “their finally gonna be gone, all these despicable enemies that have just reproached Jehovah’s name, destroyed; never ever to live again”.
    What principle and what/whose faith you have to imitate, showed in A. Morris practice?
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in RECOGNIZING THE WOLF   
    @Witness has clearly shown, as have many others, that the GB / Watchtower / JW Org  have for many years cried 'Wolf'
    How is crying Wolf helping anyone to know the true GOD ?   Crying wolf in the case of the GB & Co has meant that those humans have decided that ‘My master is delaying '    (Matthew 24 : 48)
    The GB now "starts to beat his fellow slaves "  (Matthew 24 :49
    I do think that an organisation is necessary, but it has to be an honest, clean organisation, led by True Anointed ones. And more importantly it has to be led by God through Christ and with Holy Spirit. 
    A true organisation would be recognised by it's WORKS. True worship of God through Christ and true honest teachings. And free of immorality. It would be an 'open' organisation that wasn't afraid to give details of how it was run. And all immorality would be made known to the congregations, and immoral ones would be removed unless truly repentant. By being truly open and all things made known, then others could take the necessary precautions to avoid immoral ones. That would allow congregants to know the big difference of sin or minor weakness. All this would be possible through holy spirit if the organisation was truly God's organisation through Christ. 
    There would be no more crying 'Wolf' because the True anointed would wait for true instructions from Christ through Holy Spirit. Remember the words of Jesus to the Anointed 
    John 14 : 13 & 14
     "Also, whatever you ask in my name, I will do this, so that the Father may be glorified in connection with the Son. 14  If you ask anything in my name, I will do it."
    You see, JESUS will provide TRUTH to the TRUE ANOINTED ones. So when there is a true organisation, then there will be true teachings and true servants of Almighty God'
    The Earthly class must 'go with' the spiritual Jew, that is the True Anointed. 
     
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Witness in RECOGNIZING THE WOLF   
    g93 3/22 p. 3
    THE story is told of a boy who watched the sheep of the villagers. To stir up a bit of excitement, one day he cried out, “Wolf! Wolf!” when there was no wolf. The villagers rushed out with clubs to drive off the wolf, only to find that there was none. It was such great fun that later on the boy repeated his cry. Again the villagers rushed out with their clubs, only to discover that it was another false alarm. After that a wolf did come, and the boy sounded the warning, “Wolf! Wolf!” but the villagers dismissed his cry as another false alarm. They had been fooled too often.
    So it has become with those who proclaim the end of the world. Down through the centuries since Jesus’ day, so many unfulfilled predictions have been made that many no longer take them seriously.
    Does the failure of such predictions to come true convict as false prophets those who made them, within the meaning of Deuteronomy 18:20-22? That text reads: “The prophet who presumes to speak in my name a word that I have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. And in case you should say in your heart: ‘How shall we know the word that Jehovah has not spoken?’ when the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word does not occur or come true, that is the word that Jehovah did not speak.” 
    There are some who make spectacular predictions of the world’s end to grab attention and a following, but others are sincerely convinced that their proclamations are true. They are voicing expectations based on their own interpretation of some scripture text or physical event. They do not claim that their predictions are direct revelations from Jehovah and that in this sense they are prophesying in Jehovah’s name. Hence, in such cases, when their words do not come true, they should not be viewed as false prophets such as those warned against at Deuteronomy 18:20-22. In their human fallibility, they misinterpreted matters.
     
    We can see the Wt is trying to remove itself from being labeled “false prophets”. Does this mean that God also has turned a blind eye to their many failed predictions as they have done?
    The leaders of “Israel” and all anointed (New Jerusalem/holy city) are to bear the name of God, symbolically. (Jer 25:29; Dan 9:18)  Anything that comes out of their mouths is to be in truth with Jesus Christ’s teachings. But are they?  Jesus tells us that we can detect the false teachers/prophets from the genuine teachers he has sent, by what comes out of their mouth, what “fruit”/teachings they have produced.  (Matt 7:15-19)  In Matt 7:15, Jesus calls them “false prophets" - "ravaging wolves". 
    The second key to labeling the leaders of the organization as false prophets is their “voicing expectations based on their own human interpretations.”  God calls these ones, false prophets, because they are “prophesying” and filling their hearers with false hopes…as well as grabbing the attention and a following of those witnessed to, as in the house-to-house work. 
    “This is what the Lord Almighty says: “Do not listen to what the prophets are prophesying to you; they fill you with false hopes. They speak visions from their own minds, not from the mouth of the Lord.”  Jer 23:16
    “Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.”  2 Pet 1:20,21
    Can an organization claim to be guided by Holy Spirit when every prophesy made, was at the will of a human and not the will of God?  
     “Offer yourself as a role model of good actions. Show integrity, seriousness, 8 and a sound message that is above criticism when you teach, so that any opponent will be ashamed because they won’t find anything bad to say about us.”  Titus 2:7-9
     
    It is a lie that the WT has never called itself "prophets".  Wt. 1972 Apr 1 pp.197-199 'They Shall Know that a Prophet Was Among Them'
    False Prophets:  Malachi 3:18 - http://pearl-distinction.blogspot.com/
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     

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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    @César Chávez  You lost big time   It gave me a laugh for a minute. Thanks.
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    The Apostle Paul was both a physical Jew and a Spiritual Jew.
    Philippians 3 :  from verse 4.  The Apostle Paul says about being a physical Jew : 
    If any other man thinks he has grounds for confidence in the flesh, I have more: 5  circumcised the eighth day, of the nation of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew born from Hebrews; regarding law, a Pharisee;
    And he was Anointed by Jesus Christ as a spiritual Jew. 
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Arauna in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    These guys have forgotten what they used to know about the bible.  They remind me of an opposer who knew the principles of god very well and asked: Did god really say that you must not eat from every tree in the garden?? Like a troll he put a bad idea in her head. 
    The same machinations going on here... and sometimes it is open OCD-hostility.
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Then you should have condemnation against all the Watchtower Leaders that demanded that CSA be kept hidden in the Organisation. 
    Yes the Leaders of the Watchtower have done this for years.  Misusing scripture about 'the time of the end' to pretend that Armageddon was coming in 1941, and in the late 1960's / early 70's. Then again 'before the end of the century' meaning the year 200. 
    They deliberately misused the scripture about the Superior Authorities, up until 1962.  Yes only to satisfy themselves. 
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You are a wally.  Apostle Paul was a Spiritual JEW. 
     
    Witness is referring to Spiritual Jews of which the Apostle Paul WAS ONE. 
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    TheNonstoptheo reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Now, I watched that video and he was talking about God's enemies. So lets dissect this. 
    Firstly, I would agree with anyone that says God's enemies should be destroyed.
    After all, the Earth cannot be cleansed whilst God's enemies remain. 
    Secondly, that scripture   Berean Study Bible Matthew 5 v 44
    But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
    This was spoken to the Anointed by Jesus, and it is saying to the Anointed to love THEIR enemies, NOT to love God's enemies. 
    In this one instance I will agree with A Morris, to hate God's enemies. 
    Now here we venture into another topic, that of, who has the job of deciding who God's enemies are ? Well concerning God's enemies, by their works we will know them, so here the True Anointed will know who they are. Even we of the earthly class, that are not JWs, would be able to see some who directly work against God. 
    A villain is not a villain 27/7, sometimes they may even do something good. It's the same with the GB of the Watchtower/JW Org. 
     
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