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@WitnessYou like to scribble, why don't you do something useful, like scribble out a verse by verse commentary on the book of revelation since you claim to have it all figured out.

No one has a coherent and believable narrative on the whole book of revelation. At critical points it all goes crazy conspiracy theory.

What a maroon. No elder is judging a conscience. It's all about behavior.

I'd say that Jehovah is the judge of whose conscience is in order. Anyone who disagrees is an ass.

To be really politically incorrect

You're full of yourself which isn't saying anything everyone else has already observed. You remind me of Mr. Coffee.

@C-D67 Did the apostles EVER tell a lie? Did they EVER teach the doctrine of men? Did they EVER appoint a date for Armageddon? Did the EVER add to God's word? Yes to all of these, and Jehovah had to clean up after them.

If your religion doesn't have remora-like apostates, it isn't likely the right one.

https://babylonbee.com/news/after-spending-month-teaching-from-movie-clips-church-wonders-why-nobody-studies-their-bible

https://babylonbee.com/news/password-bot-admits-it-sometimes-says-incorrect-password-on-your-first-try-just-for-fun

God certainly used the one available. Your response, like all of them are irrelevant.

...and Witness vomits more irrelevant paragraphs on cue... Look it up you lazy bum.

You are so incredibly dense. It absolutely requires organization. The scriptures are clear on this. Your problem is that you don't want to subject yourself to Jehovah. You'd be like someone who insisted on burning incense to Jehovah when you weren't a Levite.

How I see the average apostate.

Man, I wish all this whining about the organization would quit. You'd think these idiots would be able to better able to prioritize their annoyances. With these idiots the answer to the question: "What is the one problem facing humanity which deserves the most from your scarce resources and time?" It's always whining about the organization. Faced with that level of idiocy and lack of self awareness , what can you do? You might as well be talking to a chatbot.

I'm far less concerned by some ink on paper than I am about 250k illegal aliens pouring across the border every month.

When I was in high school (in the 70's) there was this one black kid in my PE class these other two black kids were always picking on. I remember sitting on the wall outside the gym about six feet from the kid thinking "they should leave him alone" when he pulls out a stilletto and slices down from the wrist to the elbow of one of these kids and while they run away he chases them and stabs them in the back. It all happened in a heartbeat. No notes, no counseling, no conversation. Just shut up and go to your next class. I never saw these kids again.

I remember the 1st time I came to a KH w/my GF. I was an atheist at the time and this one family I didn't even know gave me the creeps. Like they all had cooties. I didn't even know who they were and hadn't been introduced and it's not like they did or said anything I can recall, but they just gave me the willies. Later they all bailed. They were all creepy, creepy. Even the kids were creepy, like in a "we do weird sh*t at our house that no one knows about" creepy. My thinking is that people who have some creepy demonic stuff going on with them can't handle being at a KH for long. It's like they're vampires and the holy spirit in the KH burns their skin or something.

It's all gibberish Tom. I don't even bother reading any of it because the spirit in it seems demonic, though it may not be. It has the same feel as when I make the mistake of arguing with a pentecostal minister. I feel unclean afterwards and feel like I need to shower.

That's why I put people on ignore and filter them through anyone I've not blocked. If the non-blockers respond w/something that gets my attention I might peek, otherwise all I hear is noise.

https://faithalone.org/journal-articles/romans-816-and-assurance/ Apparently others have struggled with the subjectivity of the anointed idea as well. (Ro. 8:16) Since there is no objective evidence that any individual is anointed today, I simply examine organizations as to the proximity these come to sticking to the bible. This organization fares better than most in my view and quite amazing insofar as it is global in extent. That said, the dragnet illustration w/regard to organizations still hold in my view. The organization too is part of the dragnet. Parallel accounts w/wheat and weeds, sheep and goats the same and even the question "Who really is the FDS?" Each organization claims as a body to be such. Jesus will be the judge. Until then the focus of a Christian is to identify which ORGANIZATION they deem to be faithful and discreet. If you have no organization, then you're not part of that body because you're either implicitly or explicitly are behaving as a "superfine apostle". How then can you forgive your brothers when you separate yourself from them because they didn't do everything the way you thought they should have? Anyway I ignore anyone's claims at anointing. Show me your behavior and shut up about how you have some psychological idea about whether or not you might be wearing an invisible crown. Show me your scriptures and your arguments and I'll make up my own mind. Oh, also use the same hypercritical analysis w/regard to the 1st century organization and you'd reject them too.

I'd say you haven't left if you're still harping on about the GB/FDS.

No comfort for the parents. I do see the victim mentality and entitlement mentality promoted more and more since the 1970's as creating a climate where unworthy people feel put-upon and entitled and give vent in violent ways. https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/self-esteem-creates-criminals-who-can-t-add/339495/ https://homepages.se.edu/cvonbergen/files/2013/01/Dark-Side-of-Self-esteem.pdf

What I'm curious about is what it was about the people in the first century that was so incredibly convincing to people. It's not as if there weren't other individuals claiming this or that thing, moreover it was totally persecuted by the religious leaders and the Romans had no use for any of their nonsense either. It's also not as if people were thoroughly ensconced in rhetoric and logic and had at their mental disposal a myriad of apologetic arguments. I'm thinking that the gifts of the spirit must have been running rampant, at least enough so to convince a huge number of people in a short time, otherwise the whole thing might have easily been snuffed. We have to realize what an incredible departure the whole Christianity thing was and how powerful the testimony of the converts must have been.