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  1. Great minds...................................................
  2. 35 Q. And do you see yourselves as Jehovah God's 36 spokespeople on earth? 37 A. That I think would seem to be quite presumptuous to 38 say that we are the only spokesperson that God is using. 39 The scriptures clearly show that someone can act in harmony 40 with God's spirit in giving comfort and help in the 41 congregations, but if I could just clarify a little, going 42 back to Matthew 24, clearly, Jesus said that in the last 43 days ‐ and Jehovah's Witnesses believe these are the last 44 days ‐ there would be a slave, a group of persons who would 45 have responsibility to care for the spiritual food. So in 46 that respect, we view ourselves as trying to fulfil that 47 role.
  3. Woman Attacks Three Jehovah's Witnesses With a Hammer

    What!!! She is still allowed to beat up JWs??? Hope they have her down as a DNC! And what is she doing in the picture? Setting fire to her summons?
  4. The Holy Spirit

    I will, but on the basis of what has been provided so far, I think we are in for a long haul.................................................
  5. The Holy Spirit

    Distinction of course, personality?...........afraid not.
  6. Does not this refer to the action of Cyrus in carrying out the conquest of Babylon? Xenephon records: "Cyrus then sent the companies of cavalry around through the streets and gave them orders to cut down all whom they found out of doors, while he directed those who understood Assyrian to proclaim to those in their houses that they should stay there, for if any one should be caught outside, he would be put to death. [32]" Cyropedia. Vol 7 Chap 5 v32. In answer to your question, the clear lesson is that obedience to Jehovah's instructions is life-important. The detail of just how this will work out during the "great tribulation" remains to be seen.
  7. He May Have Thought She Was Crazy

    He was "righteous" in that he tried to do the right thing, but seemed to be a bit legalistically oriented. He probably knew that Mary's potential capital crime depended on her being 'promised in marriage'. If the separation was to be done in secret, (presumably without broadcasting the reason), she could hightail it back to Judah where Elizabeth was and the scene of her "apparent" liason. Then she could possibly get together with her mysterious suitor and cover up the alleged misdemeanour. Or at least, the culprit, if unwilling to marry her, could pay Mary's father the appropriate compensation. Or some other hair-brained reasoning. Who knows?? He just didn't want her to die. What we DO NOT see Joseph doing is falling on his face before Jehovah, (rather like Hezekiah when receiving the Assyrian threats), and begging Jehovah to make him understand what his fiance was telling him and what he should do under the circumstances. That is more like what a "good"man would have done. All we hear is that he "thought these things over", hatched his plan, .....and went to sleep. Now, despite the circumstances being way above his pay-grade, he was a fairly decent chap. He didn't have the same level of responsibility as Zechariah the Levite, so didn't get struck dumb (no time for that and no purpose served anyway). But, with this being a pretty important event and all, he got an orientation visit in a dream, but, perhaps, he missed out on an actual angelic one-to-one briefing here. Anyway, never one to be stumped by human inadequacy, Jehovah got it all worked out His way in the end.
  8. Hightailing It to the City of Refuge

    Thinking about this further from a legal perspective, it was a lawyer who stated (Rom.2:14-15): "For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.  They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused." Wouldn't this seem to add a perspective to the obvious connection between various ancient legal codes?
  9. The Holy Spirit

    Agreed entirely. And yet to be demonstrated in connection with the holy spirit being a person separate from it's originator, the Father, Jehovah.
  10. Hightailing It to the City of Refuge

    Very interesting, but not alarming. I am sure Moses Egyptian education would have exposed him to Hammurabi's code as well as whatever system existed in Egypt (although apparently it is not so clearly preseved for us as the Mesopotamian). There would be no need to "reinvent the wheel" in setting out a form and structure for a law code to govern the affairs of a nation at that time, would there? I believe the only part of the Mosaic Law actually written by a non-human agency is the decalogue? Is there a similar listing of this nature in the Hammurabi code? Also, is there a similar comparison chart on sanctions? And how about matters of hygiene? I have just found a copy of the Code of Hammurabi in a 2nd hand book shop ( I love those places). Time to dust it off methinks!
  11. Hightailing It to the City of Refuge

    Trying to justify Hammurabi as the source for much of the Mosaic Law? Including the refuge city concept? (Believe me , this is only a guess.So I could be completely wrong! It's not something I have researched...yet!)
  12. The Holy Spirit

    Sadly, unsubstantiated opinion. Repetition may emphasize, but, as with the similar, cathechismal assertion of such ideas by other historic groups, fails to establish truth. ¿<><
  13. The Holy Spirit

    The point of including themsurely? which Mark records was "Beelzebub", as does Luke 11:19. Luke 11:20 shows that Jesus expelled demons by means of God's "finger" (Ex.8:19; Ex.31:18), not the finger of Beelzebub. The false attribution by the religionists was a sin against "the finger of God" and as such a brazen sin against the personal presence of Jehovah. (Even the Egyptian magicians recognised the "finger of God" which 1stCentury religionists did not). The listing of personalizations in connection with holy spirirt may substantiate your personal view of it's nature, but is not of itself scriptural evidence of personality, any more than other examples of the same literary device in scripture discussed elsewhere. It appears your belief is core to your argument, not the scriptures, which you apparently present to merely support your belief. ¿<><
  14. Are there more female than male Jehovah's Witnesses?

    *** w14 8/15 p. 10 par. 19 What Is the Role of Women in Jehovah’s Purpose? *** The small group of Bible Students has grown to some 8,000,000 Witnesses of Jehovah today (2015). More than 11,000,000 other individuals show interest in the Bible and our work by attending the annual Memorial of Jesus’ death. In most lands, the majority of those present are women. Also, women make up the greater number of over 1,000,000 full-time Kingdom proclaimers worldwide. God has indeed granted faithful women the privilege of participating in the fulfillment of the psalmist’s words: “Jehovah gives the command; the women proclaiming the good news are a large army.”—Ps. 68:11. This is interesting because it shows that the potential for increase in the numbers of witnesses at present is also mostly female. However, I am sure it will even out somewhat in the resurrection. I wonder what the male/female ratio on this forum is? Participation is likely majority female hands down with almost 11% of total postings by @Queen Esther alone.
  15. Hightailing It to the City of Refuge

    I agree with the comment by JWI on the speculative nature of scenarios in connection with the cities of refuge. I haven't investigated cities of refuge in a historical context simply because reliable information seems rather scant. Apart from the setting out the provision in Exodus, Numbers, Deuteronomy, and Joshua,, there doesn't appear to be any reference to the use of the provision in the Hebrew Scriptures, like for example, the cameo appearance of Ruth with reference to the provision of "levirate" marriage. There is a lot of what I term as higher-critical gobbledegook on the matter, but really only of some academic interest (to me). Perhaps, rather like the Sabbath Year and Jubilee provisions, there was little adherence to the legislated procedure over the years. (Compare Jer.2:34 "Even your skirts are stained with the blood of the innocent poor ones, though I did not find them in the act of breaking in") Anyway, with regard to TTH's comment, this manslayer, self assessesed as "guiltless", has rather missed the point. Where human blood has been shed there is no "guiltlessness" as the basis for the Mosaic provision makes clear at Genesis 9:5-6. Anyone of that opinion was not thinking in harmony with Jehovah God's view of the matter of shedding human blood in any circumstance, and would be putting themselves greatly at risk of an execution of judgement without mercy.