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    Outta Here reacted to bruceq in The French want to make society safe for religion by banning so-called cults - FROM 2014   
    To all those who think "It can't happen here"- know that it will happen everywhere #jwrussia #jwban #JW #StopJWBan
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    Outta Here got a reaction from Colin Browne in Scientists and religious scholars team up to try and find living descendents of Jesus...   
    "Scientists and religious scholars team up to try and find living descendents of Jesus"
    Sounds like the newspaper has added the descendant bit. Anyway, I hope the Scientists and religious scholars are funding it themselves!
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    Outta Here got a reaction from Arauna in Scientists and religious scholars team up to try and find living descendents of Jesus...   
    "Scientists and religious scholars team up to try and find living descendents of Jesus"
    Sounds like the newspaper has added the descendant bit. Anyway, I hope the Scientists and religious scholars are funding it themselves!
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    Outta Here got a reaction from bruceq in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    As they have stated themselves recently.
    In discussing the functioning of the Governing Body, the February 2017 study issue WT says::
    "And each member of that body views himself, not as the leader of his fellow brothers, but as one of the “domestics,” fed by the faithful slave and subject to its oversight." P29 para 11.
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    Outta Here reacted to Anna in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    Thanks @Eoin Joyce.  Your comment is pretty much my thoughts too. Why I pushed that point about the FDS was because some have the attitude (and opposers love pointing this out) that we believe that we are somehow dependent on the FSD for surviving the great tribulation, i.e. that they play a direct role or special role in our outcome, and that without them we would not be able to make it. This is why I kept harping on about WHAT is the REAL criterion for us surviving. It's not the FDS obviously, although as you have rightly pointed out, their role in helping us to maintain our loyalty to Jehovah has not been small by any means. And as you say, yes, we could spend a lot of time speculating on how the actual scenarios will play out, because we just don't know. But that wasn't really my concern. My concern was that readers don't get the impression that we are putting the FDS above the place they were given by Jesus, or on par with Jesus, because each of them individually are also the domestics, like everyone else in the Christian congregation.
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    Outta Here got a reaction from Anna in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    We could spend a great deal of time speculating on scenarios on how we will (if we are there) survive the GT as you term it and what role the FDS will play in leading us during that time. And yet you have highlighted the most important aspect already in saying "if we ARE loyal, and approved by Jehovah..."
    In the light of Habbakuk's words at Hab.3:16-17, we need to be prepared for any eventuality during the "great tribulation" that will exceed all others in history. In the 1984 NWT, the rendering of verse 17, in connection with the "day of distress" (v16), contained the phrase "[the] flock may actually be severed from [the] pen.." What does that suggest as a possibility? And yet the WT 15/7/1977 stated in commenting on that verse "And never allow your vision to become dim as regards angelic backing of those holding to their dedication to Jehovah".
    Habbakuk goes on to exemplify what our resolve should be in verse 18: "Yet, as for me, I will exult in Jehovah; I will be joyful in the God of my salvation" and indicates Jehovah's response in v19: "The Sovereign Lord Jehovah is my strength; He will make my feet like those of a deer and cause me to tread on high places."

    I agree with your statement that we now need to maintain our loyalty, along with Jehovah's approval. And the FDS has had no meagre role in assisting and encouraging us to do this successfully so far. So there is no need to fear that this will cease, or that somehow, the loyalty and approval by Jehovah that we now experience (if genuine) should some how wear off if we find ourselves seemingly "severed from the pen". This regardless of where the anointed are located say, during the time of Gog's attack. 
    And neither is there any doubt that Jehovah can and will provide the means for His people to escape at that time, because "Jehovah knows how to rescue people of godly devotion out of trial" 2Pet.2:9.
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    Outta Here got a reaction from bruceq in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    We could spend a great deal of time speculating on scenarios on how we will (if we are there) survive the GT as you term it and what role the FDS will play in leading us during that time. And yet you have highlighted the most important aspect already in saying "if we ARE loyal, and approved by Jehovah..."
    In the light of Habbakuk's words at Hab.3:16-17, we need to be prepared for any eventuality during the "great tribulation" that will exceed all others in history. In the 1984 NWT, the rendering of verse 17, in connection with the "day of distress" (v16), contained the phrase "[the] flock may actually be severed from [the] pen.." What does that suggest as a possibility? And yet the WT 15/7/1977 stated in commenting on that verse "And never allow your vision to become dim as regards angelic backing of those holding to their dedication to Jehovah".
    Habbakuk goes on to exemplify what our resolve should be in verse 18: "Yet, as for me, I will exult in Jehovah; I will be joyful in the God of my salvation" and indicates Jehovah's response in v19: "The Sovereign Lord Jehovah is my strength; He will make my feet like those of a deer and cause me to tread on high places."

    I agree with your statement that we now need to maintain our loyalty, along with Jehovah's approval. And the FDS has had no meagre role in assisting and encouraging us to do this successfully so far. So there is no need to fear that this will cease, or that somehow, the loyalty and approval by Jehovah that we now experience (if genuine) should some how wear off if we find ourselves seemingly "severed from the pen". This regardless of where the anointed are located say, during the time of Gog's attack. 
    And neither is there any doubt that Jehovah can and will provide the means for His people to escape at that time, because "Jehovah knows how to rescue people of godly devotion out of trial" 2Pet.2:9.
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    Outta Here reacted to JW Insider in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    I feel like I rather rudely steered this conversation to one that kept veering back to a problem I had with the words "devotion to imperfect men" which was tied to "devotion to the Governing Body." That wasn't the real gist of the original thread, so I'm thinking all that part of the discussion could be moved to a new thread. If that happens, perhaps the entire February 2017 study article that was referenced could be discussed. But I won't be adding more to that particular subject here.
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    Outta Here got a reaction from JW Insider in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    Just a P.S. really.
    Ambiguity and misunderstanding can arise when using the word "devote". It has a range of meanings today that may obscure understanding the word as it is used in the NWT to translate original language expressions in mostly the Hebrew and to a lesser extent the Greek Scriptures.
    Exodus 20:5 is relevant in this context; also 1Tim 4:8. As is the Miriam Webster definition:
    Definition of devotion
    1a :  religious fervor :  piety
    1b :  an act of prayer or private worship —usually used in plural during his morning devotions c :  a religious exercise or practice other than the regular corporate (see corporate 2) worship of a congregation
    2a :  the act of dedicating something to a cause, enterprise, or activity :  the act of devoting; the devotion of a great deal of time and energy
    2b :  the fact or state of being ardently dedicated and loyal "her devotion to the cause";  filial devotion
    3 (obsolete) :  the object of one's devotion
    Probably another thread required to take this further.
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    Outta Here got a reaction from bruceq in IS THERE PREPARING THE THIRD WORLD WAR?......   
    Just a P.S. really.
    Ambiguity and misunderstanding can arise when using the word "devote". It has a range of meanings today that may obscure understanding the word as it is used in the NWT to translate original language expressions in mostly the Hebrew and to a lesser extent the Greek Scriptures.
    Exodus 20:5 is relevant in this context; also 1Tim 4:8. As is the Miriam Webster definition:
    Definition of devotion
    1a :  religious fervor :  piety
    1b :  an act of prayer or private worship —usually used in plural during his morning devotions c :  a religious exercise or practice other than the regular corporate (see corporate 2) worship of a congregation
    2a :  the act of dedicating something to a cause, enterprise, or activity :  the act of devoting; the devotion of a great deal of time and energy
    2b :  the fact or state of being ardently dedicated and loyal "her devotion to the cause";  filial devotion
    3 (obsolete) :  the object of one's devotion
    Probably another thread required to take this further.
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    Outta Here got a reaction from Queen Esther in Kiwi fruit   
    Thanks 
     
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    Outta Here reacted to Queen Esther in Kiwi fruit   
    Ok  I  will  look  >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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    Outta Here reacted to Queen Esther in Kiwi fruit   
    Kiwi fruit is exceptionally high in vitamin C, in fact it contains even more vitamin C than an orange. It also contains high amounts of vitamins E, A, & K as well as flavonoids, antioxidants, and minerals such as magnesium, potassium, and iron. Kiwi is particularly beneficial for the respiratory system and has been shown to help shorten the duration of colds as well as to help prevent asthma, wheezing, and coughing. Kiwi fruit contains anti-inflammatory properties which is good for those who suffer with autoimmune disorders such as Lupus, Fibromyalgia, CFS, and Lyme disease. Kiwi seeds are an excellent source of omega-3 fatty acids which are essential for cognitive function and can help prevent the development of ADHD and autism in children. Kiwi contains enzymes similar to those in papaya and pineapple which makes them useful in aiding in digestion and elimination. Kiwi fruit has also been shown to help protect DNA from mutating which is an incredible form of protection against illnesses and diseases such as atherosclerosis, heart disease, osteoarthritis, asthma, rheumatoid arthritis, and cancer. Kiwi fruit is also known to help remove excess sodium buildup in the body which can help reduce bloating, swelling, and water retention. Kiwi is good for promoting eye health and for preventing age-related macular degeneration. It is also highly beneficial for those who have weak or sensitive immune systems and are useful at keeping ear, nose, and throat infections at bay. Kiwi is also great for diabetics by helping to keep their blood sugar levels under control and for cardiovascular health as it has been shown to help lower triglycerides or blood fat in the body. Kiwi contains certain compounds that act as a blood thinner, similar to the way aspirin works which helps prevent blood clot formation inside the blood vessels and can protect the body from stroke and heart attacks. Green kiwi is the most commonly available variety found in supermarkets, however a delicious variety called Gold Kiwi (which has a golden color flesh) is a much sweeter, creamier, and less acidic variety that should not be missed. Kiwi fruit should be left on the counter to ripen until they yield under gentle pressure, like a ripe mango or avocado. Eat at least 3-4 ripe kiwi fruit a day for ultimate health benefits.
    ENJOY ;-)

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