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  1. @James Thomas Rook Jr. I wish we could have new light with regards to a lifesaving blood transfusion. Matt 12:10 "...they asked Jesus, “Is it lawful and permissible to heal on the Sabbath?”—they asked this so that they might accuse Him and bring charges into court. 11 But He said to them, “What man is there among you who, if he has only one sheep and it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not take hold of it and lift it out? 12 How much more valuable then is a man than a sheep!" Life is sacred isn't it? But I think personally, I would still prefer a glass of red to be wine... @Aaron Mathewson Only takes one failed "prophecy." Deut 18:20-22 “‘If any prophet presumptuously speaks a word in my name that I did not command him to speak or speaks in the name of other gods, that prophet must die. 21 However, you may say in your heart: “How will we know that Jehovah has not spoken the word?” 22 When the prophet speaks in the name of Jehovah and the word is not fulfilled or does not come true, then Jehovah did not speak that word. The prophet spoke it presumptuously. You should not fear him." The Generation prophecy is obviously flawed but new light say it's an overlapping generation. You only have to look at the Queen of England to see that there is now four living generations.
  2. @Bible SpeaksI had no idea, this is really interesting! Luke 8:17 "For there is nothing hidden that will not become evident, nor anything secret that will not be known and come out into the open." We are living in very fluid times indeed. Yes Jesus is our King, let's keep a firm grip on his right hand and we won't be shaken. Thanks sister Agape
  3. It is what it is! @Anna. What gives them the right to insert YHWH so that the the scriptures are manipulated to suit the their doctrine? You can't get away from that. You can't add or take away from God's word no matter what your intention is. It's his word! Deut 4:2 "You must not add to the word that I am commanding you, neither must you take away from it, so as to keep the commandments of Jehovah your God that I am commanding you." Deut 12:32 "Every word that I am commanding you is what you should be careful to do. You must not add to it nor take away from it." Rev 22:18,19 "“I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll; 19 and if anyone takes anything away from the words of the scroll of this prophecy, God will take his portion away from the trees of life and out of the holy city, things that are written about in this scroll. If God wanted YHWH there he would have made sure of it, like he did with the Hebrew Scriptures. But he has reason for not using it. Jesus is the saviour! Acts 4:10-12 Isaiah 43:11 "I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior." Titus 2:13-3:6 "manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus, However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our Savior, God, was manifested, This [spirit] he poured out richly upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior." (Note the New World Translation inclusion of [the] to change the meaning of this passage.) It is misrepresenting God if you add the name when it was not in the Christian Greek Scriptures because the New Testament clearly shows that Jesus is the new name under which people must get saved. The Watchtower is deliberately misleading sincere honest hearted people. But we can be sure that God reads the heart and knows those who belong to him in all religions even though he does not have a religion. As you are aware ALL religion will be done away with. I know how you feel as I would of defended the Watchtower in the past but the scriptures speak for themselves. I would rather defend the scriptures than defend an organization. And then encourage people to build up their faith and love built on truths found in the bible. God blesses that! Because then you can have a deeper relationship with him based on spirit and truth.
  4. @JW Insider I apologise for being blunt but I do think it is important for everyone to know how tainted the NWT is to suit doctrine which I think was clearly shown in that they took it upon themselves to insert Jehovah in the Christian Greek Scriptures under their own assumptions. Therefore trust in the Governing Body is clearly misdirected and dangerous. I just want to sound the warning. You are right in saying "it's a matter of what sort of persons ought we to be" Bible based principals are what shape us and coming to Jesus in spirit and 'truth' is part of our worship to the God of truth. Geofferr Jackson GB member admitted at the Royal Commission under oath, that it would be presumptuous to say they are being used by Jehovah, but that they are Guardians Of the Doctrine(G,O,D). Not inspired by Holy Spirit presenting truths from the bible as they say they are in the publications.
  5. There are 7 names for God in the bible. The link below describes them well with scriptural reference.
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    Yes I hear what you are saying regarding God's name but it's more about the truth about his nature, and demoting Jesus to a created being and not worthy of worship or prayer is vital. Jesus is referred to as God John 20:28-29 "In answer Thomas said to him: "My Lord and my God!" Jesus said to him: "Because you have seen me have you believed? Happy are those who do not see and yet believe."" Isaiah 9:6 - "For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace." John 1:1 "In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." Jesus is our creator Isaiah 42:5 "This is what the [true] God, Jehovah, has said, the Creator of the heavens and the Grand One stretching them out; the One laying out the earth and its produce, the One giving breath to the people on it, and spirit to those walking in it:" John 1:2-4 "This one was in [the] beginning with God. All things came into existence through him, and apart from him not even one thing came into existence. What has come into existence by means of him was life, and the life was the light of men. Jesus is to be worshipped Hebrews 1:6 "And let all God's angels do obeisance to (proskune? worship) him (Jesus)." Most Bibles translate the Greek word proskune? as worshipped. Despite the New World Translation translating this word as worship when in reference to angels, humans or Jehovah, it inconsistently changes to obeisance when referring to Jesus. Jesus was prayed to Acts 7:59 "And they went on casting stones at Stephen as he made appeal and said: "Lord Jesus, receive my spirit." Unlike most translations, the New World Translation uses the word "appeal" instead of "prayer". However, the footnote to New World Translation, 1950 edition, states "footnote b: "invocation; prayer"", and by context Stephen was praying to Jesus. Jesus is everlasting Micah 5:2 "And you, O Beth´le·hem Eph´ra·thah, the one too little to get to be among the thousands of Judah, from you there will come out to me the one who is to become ruler in Israel, whose origin is from early times, from the days of time indefinite." 1 John 1:2 "yes, the life was made manifest, and we have seen and are bearing witness and reporting to YOU the everlasting life which was with the Father and was made manifest to us,..." Jesus is worthy of the same honor as the Father John 5:23 "In order that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He that does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent him." John 5:23 is considered one of the strongest statements that Jesus is God by commentaries such as Burton, Coughman's and John Calvin, because of the implication that honor should be to the same degree. This corresponds to the preceeding verse in John 5:18 that "On this account, indeed, the Jews began seeking all the more to kill him, because not only was he breaking the Sabbath but he was also calling God his own Father, making himself equal to God." Old Testament Scriptures referring to the Father are quoted as referring to Jesus The Stone of stumbling Isaiah 8:13, 14. "The LORD Almighty is the one you are to regard as holy, he is the one you are to fear, he is the one you are to dread, and he will be a sanctuary; but for both houses of Israel he will be a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall." 1 Peter 2:6-8. "For in Scripture it says: 'See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame.' Now to you who believe, this stone is precious. But to those who do not believe, 'The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone,' and 'A stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall.'" (See also Isaiah 45:22-24 - Philippians 2:9-11 "every knee should bend" and Isaiah 40:3 - Matthew 3:1-3 "Prepare the way") The only Savior Isaiah 43:11 "I-I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior." Titus 2:13-3:6 "manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus, However, when the kindness and the love for man on the part of our Savior, God, was manifested, This [spirit] he poured out richly upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior." (Note the New World Translation inclusion of [the] to change the meaning of this passage.) The main point @JW Insider is not to add or take from the scriptures as the NWT has done. The 1985 Kingdom Interlinear Translation p.11, claims the criteria for using the Divine Name in the New Testament was to replace the Greek words Kyrios and Theos with Jehovah whenever the Christian writers quoted from the Old Testament: "The modern translator is warranted in using the divine name as an equivalent of ("kurios") and ("theos") , that is, at places where the writers of the Christian Greek Scriptures quote verses, passages, and expressions from the Hebrew Scriptures or from the LXX (Greek Septuagint) where the divine name occurs." The reader is led to the conclusion that every inclusion of Jehovah in the New Testament has support from an Old Testament quote. Yet an examination of the 237 inclusions reveals the following; Only 76 times is Jehovah included based on a direct Hebrew quote In 78 other instances the scriptures are not quotes, but reference Hebrew passages discussing Jehovah 83 times the New World Translation has included Jehovah with no support from the Hebrew Scriptures Re-examining the above quote from the Insight Book reveals that it is actually the recent Hebrew J versions and not the Hebrew Old Testament Scriptures that have been used to confirm the 237 occurrences. Over 80 times the NWT has used Jehovah with no Old Testament support. On the other hand, there are also times when the New World Translation has chosen not to use the word Jehovah when the Christian writers quoted the Old Testament, even when done so by the J versions. This lack of consistency is because to do so would contradict Watchtower doctrine. For instance Isaiah 45:22-24 says; "Turn to me and be saved, all YOU [at the] ends of the earth; for I am God, and there is no one else. By my own self I have sworn-out of my own mouth in righteousness the word has gone forth, so that it will not return-that to me every knee will bend down, every tongue will swear, saying, 'Surely in Jehovah there are full righteousness and strength. This is paraphrased at both Romans and Philippians. Whereas in Romans Jehovah is inserted in the NWT, in Philippians it is not, as to do so would result in equating Jesus with Jehovah. Romans 14:11 "For it is written: "'As I live,' says Jehovah, 'to me every knee shall bend down, and every tongue will make open acknowledgment to God.'"" Philippians 2:9-11 "For this very reason also God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every [other] name, 10 so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, 11 and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father." 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17 refers to Psalm 47:5. In this example the NWT chose not to follow the J versions. Psalms 47:5 "God has ascended with joyful shouting, Jehovah with the sound of the horn." 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17 (J-7,8,13,14,24) "For the Lord Jehovah himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord Jehovah in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord Jehovah." (NWT) "because the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel's voice and with God's trumpet, and those who are dead in union with Christ will rise first. 17 Afterward we the living who are surviving will, together with them, be caught away in clouds to meet the Lord in the air; and thus we shall always be with [the] Lord." It is likewise when Peter refers to Jesus when quoting Psalms. The J versions use Jehovah whilst in this case the NWT chooses not to. Psalm 34:8 "Taste and see that Jehovah is good, O YOU people; Happy is the able-bodied man that takes refuge in him." 1 Peter 2:3 (J13, J14) "If you have tasted the kindness of the Lord Jehovah" (NWT) "provided YOU have tasted that the Lord is kind. 4 Coming to him as to a living stone, rejected, it is true, by men, but chosen, precious, with God." Psalms 102:25 is quoted at Hebrews in reference to Jesus. In this verse from Hebrews it is the Father that is talking to Jesus. The J versions have the Father referring to Jesus as Jehovah, something the NWT obviously has chosen to avoid doing. Hebrews 1:10 (J-8)"Thou, Lord Jehovah, in the beginning didst lay the foundation of the earth and the heavens are the works of thy hands" (NWT) "And: "You at [the] beginning, O Lord, laid the foundations of the earth itself, and the heavens are [the] works of your hands." Also compare Zechariah 14:3-4 with Acts 1:11,12
  6. Yes it does matter @Arauna because God meant his word to be presented as he originally intended it. From 1385 A.D. onwards, the New Testament Greek manuscripts started to be translated into certain Hebrew versions with the inclusion of YHWH. It is essential to understand that these have no connection whatsoever with the Hebrew Scriptures or Old Testament manuscripts and were not translated until well over one thousand years after Jesus death. Jesus never quoted the Father as being Jehovah. It was illegal to use the divine name and no one would of listened to him. Firstborn(Col 1:15) in the scriptures seems to indicate preeminent one(existing before all creation). David is said to be the first born of Jesse even though he was the youngest. And in Genesis Manasseh is said to be firstborn but then in Jer 31:9 Ephraim is called firstborn. The reason of this is because he was to become Lord or Heir. So in this sense we See that Jesus can aptly be called Lord of Creation. This lines up with the rest of the scriptures. Rev 1:7,8 Jehovah as Alpha and Omega. Remember though that earliest transcripts say Lord or kurios. But this essentially means in the NWT no beginning and no end. Jehovah has no beginning nor end right? And now Jesus talking in Rev 1:17,18 "And he laid his right hand on me and said: “Do not be afraid. I am the First and the Last, 18 and the living one, and I became dead, but look! I am living forever and ever..." Jesus also has no beginning or end. Gen 18 talks about Jehovah walking on the earth in human form before he walked as Jesus born from Mary. Not impossible for him to do so. Abraham prepared and gave food to him(3 men altogether). Chapter 19 verse one shows that the other two men were angels and had arrived in Sodom. John 8:58 Kingdom interlinear Before Abraham to become, I AM. That our Lord by this expression asserted his divinity and eternal existence, as the great I AM, appears evident from the use of the present tense. Exodus 6:2,3 Then God said to Moses: “I am Jehovah. 3 And I used to appear to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob as God Almighty, but with regard to my name Jehovah I did not make myself known to them You say the Hebrew Scriptures are key to understanding the whole bible and this I do not deny. Isaiah 43:10-13 is key and you know it very well: “You are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “Yes, my servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and have faith in me And understand that I am the same One. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. 11 I—I am Jehovah, and besides me there is no savior.” 12 “I am the One who declared and saved and made known When there was no foreign god among you. So you are my witnesses,” declares Jehovah, “and I am God." First point regarding this passage is in Isaiah 62:2 He said they would be called by a new name talking about Zion/Jerusalem. In Acts 11:19 here they are first called Christians. Wouldn't you agree as Christs followers this would aptly be the new name. Acts 1:8 "...and you will be witnesses of me in Jerusalem." Witnesses of Jesus not Jehovah Secondly Isaiah says concerning Jehovah himslelf Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none. If Jesus was created as a god as John 1:1 states then how can God form a god, when he said: there has been none but would of created him at the time of Abraham. He wasn't talking about foreign gods or false gods. Yes Satan is the god of this system but he is only a false god or counterfeit god. There is only one true God! Angels aren't gods like Michael. Arch angel is just a chief angel. But If Jesus is God then John 1:1 now makes sense being only one God. Not two. Emmanual means God is with us so God existing in a man harmonizes with that name as well. Acts 4:10-12 - Jesus name alone is the means of salvation. It isn't impossible for God to exist in a hyper-static state being the Father in Heaven and being in a limited form as a human. Yes Jesus was still God but limited as a human. He can be rightly called the Son because he was born from himself into human form so in that state he can be called Gods son, remember the Jews wanted to stone him because they thought he was saying he was equal to God. We also exist in three states. Body, Soul(Mind, Emotions), Spirit (energy life force) but God is more dynamic. Quantum physics demonstrates the rule of entanglement where one particle is entangled with another particle along way away. So even though we aren't familiar with all his ways Quantum Physics demonstrates hyper-static states in particles. What if, just what if Jesus is God!? Then how much more amazing is the price he paid for us and the agony he went through for us because he love us. It is mind blowing and so humbling and awe inspiring and feels me with more love and appreciation for him. 1 Tim 3:16 I was a Jehovah's Witness and left last month and am astounded at what I am learning from the scriptures now. I do not regret all the education I received as a JW because it helped me to have good study habits and have a good general knowledge of the scriptures. But believe please believe me the bible does not belong to the Governing Body. Jesus promised a helper in the Holy Spirit to help under stand the Holy Scriptures. The scriptures tell us to get baptized in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (not a spirit directed organization). Please let scripture interpret scripture. There are 7 names for God in the bible. The link below describes them well with scriptural reference.
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  7. @Arauna the point is that the Watchtower Organisation as changed the bible to fit doctrine. Rev 22:18 "I am bearing witness to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone makes an addition to these things, God will add to him the plagues that are written in this scroll" Jehovah is not found in the New Testament! Evidence it did not Appear There is much evidence that YHWH never appeared in the New Testament. Most obvious is the absence of YHWH in any of the 5,000 discovered Greek New Testament manuscripts. Important evidence is also contained in the writings of the early Christians. These are referred to as the Apostolic Fathers and Ante Nicene Fathers who wrote from the times of the Apostles to the third century. This includes Polycarp, who studied with the Apostle John and Justin Martyr who lived from 110 to 165 A.D. Their extensive writings are a source of information on the early Church, including the formulation of the Trinity doctrine and the development of the Bible Canon. Yet in their writings there is no discussion about the removal of God's name from the Scriptures. If a global conspiracy existed to remove YHWH from the all New Testament manuscripts debate most certainly would have occurred between these writers. Furthermore, their works do not contain YHWH when quoting from New Testament Scriptures. For example, in Against Heresies, Irenaeus quotes Matthew 1:20; 4:10 and Romans 11:34, each time using the word Lord instead of Jehovah. Clement, mentioned at Philippians 4:3, wrote the Epistle of Clement to the Corinthians between 75 and 110 A.D. and used Kyrios when quoting from the Old Testament. (See 1 Clement 13:5 which quotes Ezekiel 33:11.) Justin Martyr converted to Christianity around 150 A.D., a mere 50 years after the Bible was completed. He had access to early copies of the New Testament yet in The Second Apology, Chapter VI he wrote; "But to the Father of all, who is unbegotten, there is no name given. For by whatever name He be called, He has as His elder the person who gives Him the name. But these words, Father, and God, and Creator, and Lord, and Master, are not names, but appellations derived from His good deeds and functions." Justin Martyr shows that Christians referred to the Father by appellations, but not a name such as Jehovah. That the Holy Name was not being uttered in Jesus day is attested to by first century historian Josephus: "Whereupon God declared to him [Moses] his holy Name, which had never been discovered to men before; concerning which it is not lawful for me to say anymore. " (Josephus; Antiquities 2:12:4) As we do not have the actual original copies that the Bible writers penned it is always possible to say that YHWH may have appeared in the original copy. However the weight of evidence shows that YHWH was not in the original copies. If the Watchtower claims God allowed men to edit out his name "YHWH" and that no proof has been found to its existence to this day, how can a person have confidence in any of the New Testament? The New Testament is one of the most attested ancient documents. The reason a person places trust in it is their conviction that God ensured the Bible has come down to us accurately. If use of the name Jehovah is so important one must wonder why the word never appears in any existing New Testament documents. If God inspired and protected the Bible, keeping the Bible accurate throughout all history why does his name not appear in the oldest Greek manuscripts or in the very first Bible, the 5th century Latin Vulgate? Conclusion The Watchtower presents the following paradox; Jehovah has not been found in the New Testament because it has been tampered with, but the Bible has been inspired and accurately preserved by Jehovah. "Thus modern scholarship gives reason for complete confidence that the Bible has come down to us today essentially unaltered." Awake! 1972 Jun 22 p.8 "Why, then, is the name absent from the extant manuscripts of the Christian Greek Scriptures or so-called New Testament? Evidently because by the time those extant copies were made (from the third century C.E. onward) the original text of the writings of the apostles and disciples had been altered." Insight on the Scriptures - Volume 2 p.10 The divine name appears over nearly 7,000 times in the Old Testament. By Jesus time, it had been removed from most Old Testament translations yet Jesus never mentioned or criticised the removal. As this indicates that Jesus did not feel this was an important omission whether Jehovah appears in modern translations of the Old Testament is up to the discretion of the translation. On the other hand, as Jehovah does not appear in the New Testament it so should not be added to by translations such as the NWT. As Jehovah was not used in the New Testament, use of the word Jehovah cannot be a necessary requirement for salvation. Rather, the New Testament shows that Jesus is the name through which salvation comes. Jesus words show that God is to be addressed as Lord or Father. By the time of Jesus, YHWH was not in regular use. The divine name does not appear in any known manuscripts of the New Testament, indicating that Jesus kept to the tradition and law on not using the Divine Name. To include Jehovah in the New Testament the Watchtower Society has taken liberties with God's Word. An assumption has been made in order to give weight to Watchtower doctrine. The effect is an inaccurate understanding of what Jesus taught. It affects a Jehovah's Witness ability to reason correctly on subjects such as the Trinity and to understand what the Bible says as to Jesus' role in salvation.
  8. Yes our obedience to our almighty heavenly father is definitely an individual thing but why associate with an organisation that holds highly God's name, yet uses a hybrid name "Jehovah" which is made using the Tetragrammaton and then inserting vowel points using the vowels of Adonai? This was popularised around the 1200's by a Catholic monk Raymundus Martini. Imagine God's name was Tony and then every stopped using it and then 1500 years later they forgot his name but knew it had the letters TNY. They then inserted a,o,i and get the name Tanoyi - a totally different name. We know that no vowel points were made known to us and therefore it is a made up name. The army and over 50 religions use that same name. If God's name is so holy why just guess what his name is? The Christian Greek scriptures do not even contain the divine name. Run a search on "Jehovah" in the Kingdom Interlinear Translation on the JW Library app and you will find it comes back with '0' occurrences. Yet the Watchtower takes it upon themselves to take away and add to what was already established in Koine Greek the original. We know God's name ie his love, reputation, nature, power, plan ect is what was and is still important. YHWH was the name he made known to his covenanted people back then. So it seems that if he wanted that name to be known with the new covenant then he would have made it known all the way down today. It is no secret that the New World Translation Translation uses Johannes Greber to back up doctrine in the NWT. Johannes Greber was a Catholic priest turned spiritist who translated the New Testament with the help of God’s “spirits.” He used his wife, who was a spirit-medium, to channel spirits to help translate difficult verses in the bible. His experiences with spirits and their communications with him are related in his book Communication with the Spirit World, published in 1932. Wouldn't he be considered to be apostate!? The Word A translation by a former Roman Catholic Priest, Johannes Greber, and (1937 edition) renders the second appearance of the word “god” in the sentence as “a god.” – Aid to Bible Understanding 1971, p. 1669 "Keep testing whether you are in the faith" Agape Love John 8:32 "Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free."
  9. Some excellent wt source and scriptures there for the reasoning presented "Bible Speaks." One last thing about the memorial as practiced by Jehovah's Witnesses. It is actually a ritual that is practiced by high degree Freemasons and Satanist alike where they reject the body and blood of Jesus Christ by passing up the emblems. Since Charles Taze Russell was a 33rd degree Freemason he would have implemented this. I hear from eyewitnesses who were young at the time recalling accounts where partakers being of the annointed would have a secondary passover where they would pass over the emblems instead of taking them. It is vitally important that we read the scriptures and see that Jesus told his followers to partake and that there would be no group that would not partake if they were to be his followers. Careful Study of the scriptures clearly tell us that. The other sheep that were not of this fold but would come in to be one flock that Jesus mentioned, would in context be the Gentiles of the nations. Not two classes or groups. I know I am being blunt and have not quoted scriptures as it late and I have had a big day but please forgive me. But I believe it is so important for people to know the truth of God's word and to watch out for the foretold apostasy. Many Christs(Annointed) ect Christ meaning Annointed Thanks for your kind support and articles "Queen Esther" & "Bible Speaks" Agape love
  10. Be Loyal to Jesus only do not put your trust in man to whom no salvation belongs. It's interesting that they are called the "Faithful slave" and the rest are called "Publishers." Isn't it the other way around when you think about it?