John Houston

Thank you very much

That was wordy. It made sense, but no truth rang true in it. There were many possibilities because of the nature of free will. But life has to be lived by a human being, just as a game has to played, and not charted or hyped on paper of all the talent one team has over the other. God created a perfect world without evil, how? Becahe was the one setting the parameters, the limits, not man. He said what was good and evil, not us! Satan rebelled against what God had purposed for those he had created. They chose to join Satan in that rebellion, eating from the tree that was off limits to them. Now they became knowledgeable about good and evil. And right after Adam ate from the fruit, it became aware they were both naked, not after Eve ate of the fruit! So now something was missing, mankind's new knowledge has them in fear, afraid when God comes to have their evening talk. Man cannot make it on his own, we see that throughout history. And as the first man and woman showed, without divine guidance our steps will falter, because someone, either our own free will or a spirit son who has rebelled will take us down a path of destruction. None which leads to life and happiness. And nothing has shown that to be true. Satan lied, they did die and we have been dying ever since. No advancements have changed that. So only the Creator who placed life and living creatures here can change our circumstances. Period!

There was a question asked which seemed tricky at first, but once I read it again I understood it and with practicality it can be answered. The husband would have to go through life alone,until the death of his wife. Even with a divorce it does not free him to remarry. That is just common sense. There are no loop holes or other circumstances. Sexual misconduct by his wife or her death frees him to remarry. PERIOD!

Thank you again very much.

But, what group can keep doing it!? Not put on a show of love but live it, and even with imperfections,put up with one another with love? That love would identify this group above all others,we did not set the standard only do our very best to live up to it. And many tear us down for trying because they choose not to? Gather any one you want anybody and see after time what the results would be! I am a betting man, my money would be on the love,putting up based on TRYING not a sham but truly trying to live by that love!

In the account of sexual encounters, Moses writes of only those which produces life; which is why there is sexual intercourse, right? Adam had sex while in the garden and anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves. And to think that each encounter would produce a life, even while perfect is again foolish, since the body will now work perfectly; the sperm is introduced the egg also, but does that mean birth? NO! Eve would have her cycle and they would try again. The one thing they had then we do not have now is--TIME. No hurry! No need for twins or triplets and such! Eternity stood before them, those things are indeed imperfections! One child at a time. But what many do not do when they read this account, is could Eve have had girls first before sons? Cain being her firstborn SON? YET THERE COULD HAVE BEEN 2-3 SISTERS before his birth. And Moses is only writing about those involved in the account, that dos NOT mean other children are not alive or around, like a scene in a movie; focused on the scene presented, not the background. So Abel and his family lived and prospered, Cain may not have done so yet. The account said that "in time" she gave birth to Cain; the KJV reads "I have gotten a man from the LORD." So could Eve have been tired of all the females before Cain? Needing Jehovah's help? Never think the women came later, you will lose the truth of what went on during those times, of what Moses was writing about.

I laughed after I watched this video. He is so confident in his research against those in responsibility over the brotherhood. What Jackson states is the truth not an error at all. that chapter of John is a long traveling scene if it is shown in dialogue and placed where it occurred on a timeline. It starts with a feeding of 5000, then evening fell so a bit of time went by when the disciples boarded the boat for Capernaum. they rowed 3-4 miles as the Bible account tells us they saw Jesus walking upon the sea. So the next day the crowd that was on the other side of the sea, saw the little boat, but no one on board, all had left. Jesus feeds the 5000 which is recorded in all the Gospels accounts, after which he walks on water; then he feeds another 4000 men which is only recorded in the Gospels of Mark and Matthew. yet what Bro Jackson was telling us about was the video series about Jesus and the work entailing to place the dialogue within the timeline and whereabouts it happened. No error, no mistakes 4 perspectives being melded to bring unity and understanding. But those outside will not get it. We are not blind or dumb. We are quite educated and read well enough to see what you seem to have missed, sir. The video series will be almost as if we are there, the work put in this will be uplifting. Those returning from the grave will get great insight in the King who came to earth and lived among us then gave up his life for us, for this they have been brought back to life!!!!

So you are saying that all those that are anointed have a say in the workings of the earthly organization while they are here, all of them, they are a part of the slave class? Who is the "Head", the Feet" the hands, the eyes, it is a body, so they all cannot be one thing but parts of the whole correct? So who is the head directing this class? Moses had this problem; Jesus had this problem also. No one wants to follow, to be humble, to be child-like. Is this attitude going to heaven with you? Are you going to be this way after gaining access to your crown in heaven? Wanting to be ahead, leading, never following? The road is cramped not spacious, somebody has to be behind, following others.If you do not like those who are leading, make your own church like those others, then you can lead; but what we got is fine and if it is not correct, the HEAD will remove, not any of you who are bickering about it. That kind of pressure does not move him to act. You should know this by now! Fix you another cup of coffee and go about your day and let the GB/ELDERS/ANOINTED be, they have to answer to Jehovah God not you or any one else who thinks like you, ok! This medium allows you the time to vent and say what you want, it feels good right? But it changes nothing. It helps my typing skills, I getting very good. So have a good day and stay safe, remember to wash your hands and wear a mask!

Thanks, Thinking for your response, but you misunderstood what I said I think. I am not being disfellowshipped. But one ever is , is done under those circumstances. And they will not be sought out by power-Hungary elder wielding it for the sake of removing people for the sake of their own pleasure. Can it happen, yes; but does it happen , no. That would mean the entire elder body is corrupt. Including the ministerial servants.

You do know this reasoning is whack. I am being disfellowshipped, because I have sinned and do not want to repent or it shames Jehovah's name. The congregation does not need to know what I did, but that I have been disciplined and they should take the appropriate action toward me. Not treat me as usual but as one who has defamed Jehovah not the organization. It's his name and reputation my actions have stained. So this removal action from the congregation has to be done. No elder can bring action to just remove me just because he dislikes me, he himself would have to lie and bring falsehoods to arrange the meetings if I have not done anything. So again your premise is faulty. You don't like the whole arrangement of The JW, so all is flawed. But it isn't. Many want it to fail, but have nothing to replace it. A void is not a place to go after being with family. One headed by the Almighty and his Son. The men are imperfect, the GB, are imperfect, but they are the ones at the wheel of this bus, so as long as it is going down the path of everlasting life and Jehovah has not changed the drivers, no man can. No matter the fuss we can put up can change what Jehovah is using. It is never human uprising that brings about change in Jehovah's arrangement, it is him alone, at his set appointed time. Man can't rush him. Nor see from his perspective, but we should. So things are fine, could be better, but not what persons want, it is what we need NOW! THe world will use what they see to attack, those who hurt from what happened to them while here, will join them also, Satan will use these moments, and media will fan to,fire things along. But we will just stay where we are, watching the world end. Enduring to the end as best we can, preaching to,the end. And as Jehovah said he would do himself, make his name known among the nations, that he is Jehovah! And to do that, no wicked will live, no governments will survive. Only the righteous, meek ones who are covered by Jehovah's mercy in that day survive! And they are not all JW's. But their heart is disposed to Jehovah, for Jehovah to save them in that hour. He did that! Who ever is left standing should be blessed.

That's funny!!!

When I read what you just written and what many more write I chuckle, because it seems it is forgotten the examples set out in scripture of the very things occurring now. Ones say IF, well when Eli's sons were doing the things they were doing, weren't people saying the exact things now? "Is not this the 'tabernacle of Jehovah?" Is he not seeing what they are doing" So yes Jehovah and Jesus are seeing what is going on. And because there is no immediate action, ones are impatient and think Jehovah is not involved at all, but is that so? When have Jehovah or Jesus used PERFECT people to achieve their purpose? As I have read scripture it has always been imperfect ones, even ones who had committed sins and repented of those sins, am I correct? So what has changed? Emails, Twitter accounts, computers, the Internet, advanced technology? Has Jehovah lost his almightiness in some way? Has he gone to sleep as Odin has to in that mythical drama? I have been in this faith for Som 50+ years and seen a lot. I have been behind the curtain so there is nothing hidden from my eyes having been an elders son. I knew of the envelopes and the procedure they go through aback in the day, when maybe there should have been more safe guards and empathy for those who were victims. But I also saw the lies told to enact processes on innocent people that destroyed families. So I have knowledge of both sides of the coin. So when we speak let us not ever leave Jehovah out of the conversation. He is always there and when it is HIS TIME, he will take care of all things we think are being neglected, fully and thoroughly. And then we will and should be happy with the results.

Yes, Christ will judge. And if what is said is true then it is evil and awful what happened. But what if it is not true? What if the emotional impact is exaggerated and yet only as bad as the next person? Years have passed and we as outsiders are hearing these reports as third persons and have intense emotional opinions about things either way. What if she in fact was in a consensual affair until they were caught, and then the %*#% hit the fan. I have been in this situation, so I speak from inside the arena, not third person. Traumatic, yes, but things need to be handled timely by authorities then, not years later. Emotional scars, yes, but there can not be compensation for that, if so all of us should be in court for litigation. Sad when those who should be shepherding us is involved, but what happened to him? Did he get moved to another congregation and remain an elder? Or removed? An as any other sinner he has the same chance to repent, o matter how WE think the heinousness of the act was. If Jehovah has forgiveness yet in this system, then ALL who show repentance must be given forgiveness, then they will have to stand before the Judge who reads hearts. That is when th wteuth comes out on everybody!

The perspective as to be taken as if seen from above th circle of the earth, correct? This world view gives an eye opening into the chaos that is covering the entire earth. Much like the pandemic, there is such chaos everywhere, in Chile, Venezuela, Australia, Hong Kong, India, Bulgaria, here, and in each part of world; there is protest, uprisings, riots of all kinds. There is violence in the world. And with it comes the cry for "peace and security ".

Using that viewpoint from the ground again I see. Did not God use 'organization to get things done ? Was it do as I say? Or was he truly a loving God, who taught ALL living life forms, even his only begotten Son? The Scriptures state that God is one of order, correct? So would it not be common sense to think this God would have great organizational skills? One may have biased hatred for those in authoritative positions in the JW system, but when it comes to Jehovah, himself, he stands alone in how he runs his house. this things about wife who is who. Did not Jehovah make a convenant with Jesus for a kingdom? Did Jesus not turn around and make one with his faithful apostles? Being 'one' in agreement, would whatever either of them came up with be in the best interest of us as humans? All from their divine perspective, right? Not our imperfect one. So it is not what the WT came up with about who is the wife, but who is this bridegroom slash King about to bring this all down, with his Father's approval and those who have faith will benefit, correct? Traveling on that road that many, no, excuse me very few are finding. So that dissertation that I read before about the weaving of all the scriptures to try and make your point about the truth of your point, is why people need to read the Bible for themselves. You just tickled ears, like a rapper, there was no meat, only fluff. It was a desert.

Did not Joseph go,to,the city of his birth for a 'census at the time of Jesus' birth?

The thing about it is I agree mostly with much of your arguments, but not the fluff that comes with it. Yes, the mistakes will be taken care of by the One who this earthly administration part belongs to. And those 'anointed' are not judging anything or anyone now in this system of things. Jesus' death was not caused by his rising up against the religious system that had failed Jehovah. It's failure which Jesus brought out showed them their own misgivings, and the way and the truth and the life which they missed totally! Yes, our organization has faults, the people are imperfect still, being anointed has not taken that away. When this began there were only 11, then some 3000 were baptized, were each of them chosen by Jehovah to be part of the heavenly class that day? Or were they selected out of the world different than those who believed the gods of this world, making a distinction as the congregation grew and the selection as scripture teaches is by Jehovah, 144,000 since 33 CE? My organization is imperfect, I am imperfect, but so was Noah, would I hold that against him and not get aboard the ark? Leave because of their imperfections? This is not their organization, it is run by Jesus for Jehovah. When Eli's sons were doing their dirt, Samuel was aware of all that was going on, who brought an end to it? The same will happen today. If what you rant about is true then the words of the prophet Micah should hold true, it does for me at 7:7, "But as for me, it is for Jehovah that I shall keep on the lookout. I will show a waiting attitude for the God of my salvation. My God will hear me." That is my mantra. Always! Like Koran rises up against the man, forgetting he was anointed, inspired by the Sovereign Lord Jehovah. The same is true here. If these men, whom you so disdain are wanting, Jehovah will remove them forever, you will be right. But if you are incorrect.........my,my,my!

I must assume that you YOU are of this 'anointe' class of people, correct? Because when I read from your comments on anything concerning this organization you have anger and frustration, much like the conversation the apostles had among themselves wanting the greater of position, not having a humble heart as Jesus tried to teach them. Could you have done a better job with this matter of child abuse if you had the authority? Because one would have to have judicial authority in these matters, is that you? The 'anointed' would be judges, correct? But not now in this system right? The guidance here is the same as when Moses was leader, some chaffed against his leadership at times, not knowing the ins and whys. The men who are in those positions have to answer to a higher authority that will exact justice, if they are indeed woefully immoral as you state. Jesus knew the Jewish system was a failure, but while here he did not rise against it, because it was not time. Calm down and watch Jehovah work. He may surprise you. Agape, my friend.

Well, I a man NOT a troll, but if anyone wants to label me as one that is up to them. I read an reply on this thread, which mystified me, about Jesus being IN Tartarus. I have been around for some time a JW going on 50+ years and I have never heard that those angels were cast down INTO something that Jesus had to go to preach to them after his resurrection. That would mean these angels have been ABYSSED LONGER THAN 1000 years, and we all know Jehovah is perfectly fair, right? I understood this long before I became a JW. This thought would be the truth!

When God had a people chosen on earth they were his organization, am I to believe that line of reasoning? I have to because Jehovah does not change, what works for him in heaven does so on earth. How many carried the mantra 'the Word' in Heavenly realm? Only one, right? Were all the spirit sons seraphs, cherubs? They each had their status and assignments, none doing no more than the other was assigned to do by Jehovah. We may balk at those assigned to lead us while here on earth, because we are in those positions, but Moses led the nation of Israel not the entire nation of people. There were 12 tribes, but only 1 that was assigned to care for the spiritual needs of the entire nation of Israel. What if the other 11 raised up and debated on wanted that assignment? But those even of the very family had assignments, yet wanted to overstep what was meted to them; how were they dealt with? Those 8 men lead, guide us on a path none here could, nor anyone one else could, so why the beef? One has to be humble, could Peter handle such a global assignment with what he knew then, today? No! He would need much help, just as those older men took care of the spiritual things and let others care for the mundane affairs. But can that very same attitude be taken with the what belongs to Christ now? Again, No! They have to be hands on in all what is going on. Do they make mistakes? Yes, because they are still imperfect human beings, their anointing did not shield them from that. Just as it didn't with the apostles. They are management not owners, so stop thinking for the owners, they will handle everything, the merchandise has not been damaged beyond repair.

Our meetings have been cancelled also, so have the circuit assembly up coming the week of March 22nd. The Memorial will have other means to be observed but it will be. We have not missed a meeting even with all the cancellations, having sat in with other congregations via streaming. This virus has had the cart work cancelled and other informal witnessing cancelled. So what I have had to do since my disability, telephone and letter writing has become much more prevalent now and those not use these forms will now be forced to use them during this period of quarantine.

Where in scripture does it say that all the first century Christians were of the 'anointed', those of the 144,000? Those baptized at Pentecost were ALL of them chosen by Jehovah like cattle at a rodeo, to join his Son as co-rulers in heaven? That was all that had to happen? Sounds like fluff from Christendom. Especially since, lie Demas, some would leave and from among these very ones the apostasy would spring. No, Jehovah has chosen only 144,000 and has done it carefully and with patience. He has the time and having Holy Spirit was not a requisite, it gave them gifts, tools for the ministry, not a seat on a throne in heaven! Something else was needed.

How would the 12 run things today, this global range of worshippers of Jehovah? Would they write letters still, go by ship, and walk? Could they travel freely from country to country with all the border laws that are in place now? What about the laws to own property and even assemble? Could they function as they did then, now? They would need one central location, just as they took care of the problem with the widows and delegated it out to spiritually qualified persons, because they could not personally tamp out each fire. If Moses was suggested to gather around him ones would could be given such responsibilities, that would hold true today with such world wide reach. The daily business grind itself, is more than the apostles could ever fathom having to deal with when Jesus told them to take this to the most distant part of the earth. Like Koran who had some rumbling about how Moses was doing his job, we should not have such rumblings. If what they are doing is not in line with Jehovah's purposes, don't you think he will correct it? Hasn't he as we have learned over and over again? Why now in the modern time should Jehovah be weak or slow? Why now should he need our help? Have we gotten more enlightened since the days of Moses, since Pentecost 33? If Jehovah has not changed, then he will still take care of HIS ORGANIZATION, not one to be mutinied by restless imperfect humans. While Eli's sons seemed to be getting away with bloody murder, Jehovah in the end took care and cleaned out the filth, correct? He can't now? We know more than Jehovah in these last days, really?

Are you guys not understanding what was going on when the 'helper' came? It did nothing but open the way for the heavenly reward. Jehovah God now would make the choice of 144000, up until the final sealing. As long as there are ones living there could be a choice by Jehovah. He did not chose a herd of them at Pentecost just because these were baptized, that is the mistake we make. We tell ourself like we know that Jehovah chose all 3000 of them. That is incorrect. All the account tells us was they were baptized. Remember Demas? He left and returned to the world and what about those who Paul warned would be the ones who would take ones from among them out of the congregation? The number is 144000, of which Jehovah, not us, are making the choice. And at their death, they will have finalized their place on a throne in heaven, not before. All this other talk is trivial. This is not a rodeo.

I hope you understood all that you spoke.