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  1. 1 minute ago, The Librarian said:

    Obviously God did not inspire those paragraphs. They read very badly in 2019.

    Nevertheless, you shouldn't judge dead people by the morals of today. You probably have an ancestor that believed something similar yourself.

    True but not any of my ancestors claimed to be the “faithful and discreet slave personally “ and God’s mouthpiece to the congregation of God’s true followers.

  2. @Arauna  So you are saying God's standards on child baptism have changed?

    Because if OUR standards as humans have obviously changed then that means that we weren't or aren't following God's will at some point. Correct?

    One could always make the argument like Watchtower always has that we should follow how things were done back in the first century Christian congregation. = Jesus set the example = Men should be baptized at the age of Jesus.


  3. For your reading pleasure this fine Tuesday afternoon. Today’s Watchtower articles come from the pen of our former and only loving Pastor, Charles Taze Russell and one quote from the 1932 Year Book of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Let’s dig into this spiritual food that flowed from God’s mouthpiece to our tables.

    The Watchtower April 15th, 1900 p 122;

    “There are probably as many as a hundred colored brethren on the Watch Tower lists, some of them very clear in the truth, and very earnest in its service, financially and other-wise .. [but they are not allowed to participate in the "pioneer work" as] although we have received letters from several of these, who had intended engaging in the volunteer work, expressing surprise that in the call for volunteers in the March 1, 1900 issue we restricted the inquiry to white Protestant churches. .. The reason is that so far as we are able to judge, colored people have less education than whites - many of them quite insufficient to permit them to profit by such reading as we have to give forth. Our conclusion therefore is based upon the supposition that reading matter distributed to a colored congregation would more than half of it be utterly wasted, and a very small percentage indeed likely to yield good results. We advise, therefore, that where the Watch Tower literature is introduced to colored people it be not by promiscuous circulation, but only to those who give evidence of some ear for the truth. We avoid, so far as possible, putting the pearls of present truth into the hands of the vicious and depraved ..”

    The Watchtower July 15th, 1902 p216;

    “The Negro Not a Beast .. that Ham's characteristics which had led him to unseemly conduct disrespectful to his father, would be found cropping out later, inherited by his son, and prophetically he foretold that this degeneracy would mark the posterity of Canaan, degrading him, making him servile. We are not able to determine to a certainty that the sons of Ham and Canaan are negroes; but we consider that general view as probable as any other.. We are not to forget, either, that Africa is inhabited by various tribes or nations of negroes - some more and some less degraded than the average.. While it is true that the white race exhibits some qualities of superiority over any other, we are to remember that there are wide differences in the same Caucasian (Semitic and Aryan) family.. The secret of the greater intelligence and aptitude of the Caucasian undoubtedly in great measure is to be attributed to the commingling of blood amongst its various branches; and this was evidently forced in large measure by circumstances under divine control. It remains to be proven that the similar commingling of the various tribes of Chinese for several centuries would not equally brighten their intellects; and the same with the peoples of India and Africa.”

    The Watchtower April 1st, 1908 p99

    “The negro and Latin races will probably always be inclined to superstition.”

    Year Book 1932, pp 63-64

    Colored Branch

    When our colored brethren were made a separate branch there was considerable objection on the part of some, these have the thought that the Colored or Negro race was being pushed aside. This was not the case, however. It was thought best for the Colored brethren to work amongst their own people, and the results show that this conclusion was correct.

    This concludes our racist study course for today.

    Golden Age 1920-'Agriculture and Husbandry'

    This was an old article speaking against the dangers of crossbreeding crops and the unusable 'hybrids' that resulted. Then added: "Even in the case of the human family, if the father and mother are of different races the children are sometimes unfit for brain work. Wonderful are the fixed laws of God."

    I think there were writers of the literature that held views with varying levels of racism. There were articles (c.1914) that spoke about how great it was that the 'colored friends' wanted to watch the Photodrama of Creation (oh, but so as not to offend the white attendees, lets segregate them to the balcony.)

    And... Watchtower 1952. "Really, our colored brothers have great cause for rejoicing. Their race is meek and teachable, and from it comes a high percentage of the theocratic increase. What if the worldly wise and powerful and noble look down on them as foolish and weak and ignoble, not on an equality with self-exalted whites? It is to God’s ultimate honor, for he confounds the wise of this world by choosing those the world considers foolish and weak and ignoble. Let us boast in Jehovah and in our equality in his sight, rather than wanting to boast in equality in the world’s sight."

    Then... Awake! 1953 Oct 8 p.6
    "South Africa's whole color policy is conditioned by this fact and this fear: 80 per cent of her population is black; if the color bar is breached, what new dike can stop a black flood from overflowing and destroying the civilisation with which white man have displaced the wilderness?"

  4. What fascinates me the most about the first temple are its striking similarities (according to the bible's descriptions) to the polytheist temples of the Phoenicians:


    The similarities between the ’Ain Dara temple and the temple described in the Bible are indeed striking. Both buildings were erected on huge artificial platforms built on the highest point in their respective cities. The buildings likewise have similar tripartite plans: an entry porch supported by two columns, a main sanctuary hall (the hall of the ’Ain Dara temple is divided between an antechamber and a main chamber) and then, behind a partition, an elevated shrine, or Holy of Holies. They were also both flanked on three of their sides by a series of multistoried rooms and chambers that served various functions.

    Even the decorative schemes of ’Ain Dara temple and the temple described in the Bible are similar: Nearly every surface, both interior and exterior, of the ’Ain Dara temple was carved with lions, mythical animals (cherubim and sphinxes), and floral and geometric patterns, the same imagery that, according to 1 Kings 6:29, adorned the Temple of King Solomon in the Bible.

  5. So at family worship my PIMI husband was talking about baptism with my son. He asked him when he would like to get baptized and my son said “Dad I’m not in any rush. Jesus was 29 when he got baptized”.

    I did not coach him or teach him this. I was just so thrilled that he is thinking more for himself and using logic.

    Also, what the hell was Jesus doing from age 10-30 before his ministry anyways?

    But dont think about Jesus getting himself and his family financially secured for 10 years before spending 3 preaching... that is thinking that is not tolerated by the borg!

  6. Jehovah's Witnesses have this already in place.

    Their "social credit score" can go down just by being seen talking with or having dinner with certain dissidents of their group.

    They would love this idea to add to the JW Library app ... thank you China. It would automate what the surveillance elder state does already with thier 'elderettes".

    Even one of their own Governing Body members (Ray Franze) years ago was disfellowshipped (thought shamed) because he went to dinner at a dissidents home.


  7. Yes. Let's draw a huge amount of attention to that which we don't want you to pay attention to. And let's do it in the most creepy, culty, and weird way as possible, because we can't take criticism and we just don't know how to handle it.

    Like the old saying goes... If your beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny, then scrutiny isn't the problem. This barricade makes it crystal clear, loud and clear, that their beliefs can't stand up to scrutiny.

    Imagine doing this same thing to them at their cart witnessing and how they would feel?

    They would call us inspired by the devil, mentally diseased etc.....

    Video of this kind of behavior could be interesting to governments that offer tax breaks, etc.

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    Google "New York Court"


    Scroll down, under "e-COURTS"




    Left hand column, under "Login" click

    "Search as Guest"

    Then enter characters and click "Submit"


    Click "Name" then type in "Watchtower" and click Search

    Then click on the "Sort By" box

    Select "Received Date : newest to oldest"

    Then click "Sort"

    . . .

    JW CSA Survivors in ALL 50 States can seek justice under the New York Child Victims Act

    This law firm confirmed it. You can ask them :

    Jehovah's Witness Sex Abuse Lawyers


    Also, amongst other proof, Irwin Zalkin confirmed this on a video...links to that and other proof is in this video :

    The New York Child Victims Act is for JW CSA Survivors in ALL 50 States



    "Although McDaniel's alleged abuse occurred in Oklahoma, her attorneys said they would argue that Watchtower, which is based in New York, enabled the conduct by way of negligent policies."




  9. JW: Good morning sir/ma’am. (Big, upbeat smiles on their faces). We would like you to join our religion.

    Householder: Umm, I’m tired and hungover (yawns). Umm, what is required to do that?

    JW: Simply disassociate from your current religion, if you have one, and start working towards baptism in ours.

    Householder: Can I get baptized today in that pond down the road? (Points down yonder)

    JW: Well no, it’s a process that could take a year or two and we do the baptisms in a JW approved location.

    Householder: Hmm, alright. I never heard of you guys before (yawns some more). What kind of things do I need to do to work towards baptism?

    JW: Stop smoking, doing drugs, getting drunk, sex before marriage to name a few. No more voting or involvement in politics, participating in birthdays or holidays, it’s all Satanic. Do you have a lot of friends and family?

    Householder: Yes, I love them all dearly. (Pulls out his phone and starts gushing showing pictures of them)

    JW: Well, you will want to distance yourself from all of them, they are evil people who will be dying soon at the hands of our loving God Jehovah. But don’t worry about having any friends, you will take on all of us, we are so loving and will be your new family!

    Householder: You guys sound like a cult, fuckin A. (Scratches the back of his head with an eyebrow raised)

    JW: Hang on, I need to finish my presentation. A few more things, your kids can’t enroll in after school sports and you should probably quit your professional job to find one less demanding so you can go in service more like we are doing. Also, if you need blood in an emergency, you can’t take it, I mean you won’t take it because you will love Jehovah too much and you will accept death could be possible, but let me tell you, you will be so happy and at peace. If any members get disfellowshipped, you have to hold up your end of the deal and shun them. It’s hard at first, but does get easier with time. So what do you think? Can we start a Bible study today and get you moving on this amazing journey?

    Householder: You sir, can kiss my ass and fuck off, I’m going back to bed. (Belches loud and slams the door shut)

    JWs shrug at each other, label him a goat and move onto the next door with big smiles on their faces.

  10. Amber Scorah is author of the memoir Leaving the Witness. Growing up in the Jehovah's Witness faith, Scorah moved to mainland China to become an underground missionary. In China, she came to question these beliefs and left the religion. Shunned by family and friends as an apostate, Scorah was alone in Shanghai and thrown into a world she had only known from the periphery, with no education or support system. After growing up in the Jehovah's Witness faith, Amber learned Mandarin Chinese and moved to Mainland China to become an underground missionary. In China, encountering a new culture and making friends outside the faith for the first time, Amber came to question the beliefs she had been taught from childhood and ended up leaving the religion. Amber later moved to New York City, where she began a new life. Several years later, her three-month old son died on his first day in childcare. After this tragedy, Amber became a parental leave advocate. Combining forces with a Republican mother, their bipartisan efforts brought the cause of parental leave to the forefront of the 2016 presidential campaign. She was named one of the 100 most influential people in Brooklyn culture by Brooklyn Magazine. Her writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Believer, The Boston Globe, The Cut, The Globe and Mail and USA Today

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