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  1. Patiently waiting for Truth 1 Corinthiens 5 5:9 In my letter, I wrote to you that you should have nothing to do with people living immoral lives. 5:10 I was not including everybody in this present world who is sexually immoral, or everybody who is greedy, or dishonest or worships false gods -- that would mean you would have to cut yourselves off completely from the world. 5:11 In fact what I meant was that you were not to have anything to do with anyone going by the name of brother who is sexually immoral, or is greedy, or worships false gods, or is a slanderer or a drunkard or dishonest; never even have a meal with anybody of that kind. 5:12 It is no concern of mine to judge outsiders. It is for you to judge those who are inside, is it not? 5:13 But outsiders are for God to judge. You must banish this evil-doer from among you. ————— That it!
  2. Patiently waiting for Truth 1 Corrinthiens 6: 9Or don't you know that the unrighteous will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don't be deceived. Neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor male prostitutes, nor homosexuals, 10nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor slanderers, nor extortioners, will inherit the Kingdom of God. 11Such were some of you, but you were washed. But you were sanctified. But you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and in the Spirit of our God —————- We want help everything one. As you , we would help them if they needed help in an emergency. Everything one is free to ear or not. My sister is one of them. She know what is think of God. Now she have a very great hate again me. ———- I'm not going to kill myself because of his feelings. Now I'm not close to my sister. I still care about life. I have my life and she has hers. If she wants words of comfort, she goes to her girlfriends. "I have come to call sinners" .... We preach the good news of the kingdom to all, without exception, without discrimination. However, we do not approve of their conduct to make friends with them. They have their own lives just as we do. I will not invite myself to my neighbor's house who is a homosexual or a killer, to murder him. He is free to choose as I am free to choose .... I love my neighbor by teaching him about the mind of God. Jesus, in seeking to help sinners, did not associate with them to practice their sins, but to heal them. "I want mercy and not sacrifice". We show mercy to everyone by bringing them a spiritual balm. It is our sacrifice of praise that we give to God. If the person wants to commit suicide because of me, because of my feelings of hatred towards homosexuality, I will go to that person to encourage them to live for the joy of God. Yes, there are some who change their behavior. -------
  3. Patiently waiting for the Thuth "Good is evil and evil is good", Isaiah 5: 20. Jesus illustrates the Good Samaritan, who seeks to heal the wounded. To heal the practicing homosexual is to talk to him about how God sees it. If he understands, changes his behavior and perseveres, he will be on his way to inheriting the benefits of the Kingdom. But if he does not accept this teaching, refuses it categorically, there is no point in trying to make him understand common sense. Later on, perhaps, his situation will be different and he will be more receptive to the message that will be given to him in relation to the preaching. God see what is the condition of his hearth. This kind of person will not be a "close friend" for me. He will just be an acquaintance among many others. But when he is a member of my family and he lives outside my house, I will not try to be close to him. He will know what the word of our Creator says on the subject, after that, the ball is in his court. ———————————- If he is an excommunicate, I will have nothing to do with that individual. Let the elders deal with him. Left-wing thinking is invading minds so open that it looks like sewage pipes. Let's be a little pipe of pure water. It is not the question if he be condemned for etrenity. …..
  4. Patiently waiting for Truth Roman 1:24 That is why God abandoned them in their inmost cravings to filthy practices of dishonouring their own bodies- 1:25 because they exchanged God's truth for a lie and have worshipped and served the creature instead of the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. 1:26 That is why God abandoned them to degrading passions: 1:27 why their women have exchanged natural intercourse for unnatural practices; and the men, in a similar fashion, too, giving up normal relations with women, are consumed with passion for each other, men doing shameful things with men and receiving in themselves due reward for their perversion. 1:28 In other words, since they would not consent to acknowledge God, God abandoned them to their unacceptable thoughts and indecent behaviour. 1:29 And so now they are steeped in all sorts of injustice, rottenness, greed and malice; full of envy, murder, wrangling, treachery and spite, 1:30 libellers, slanderers, enemies of God, rude, arrogant and boastful, enterprising in evil, rebellious to parents, 1:31 without brains, honour, love or pity. 1:32 They are well aware of God's ordinance: that those who behave like this deserve to die -- yet they not only do it, but even applaud others who do the same. ————————— 1 Corinthiens 6:9 Do you not realise that people who do evil will never inherit the kingdom of God? Make no mistake -- the sexually immoral, idolaters, adulterers, the self-indulgent, sodomites, 6:10 thieves, misers, drunkards, slanderers and swindlers, none of these will inherit the kingdom of God. 6:11 Some of you used to be of that kind: but you have been washed clean, you have been sanctified, and you have been justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and through the Spirit of our God. ================== «But you have been washed clean, you have been sanctified,…» Can you be washed while "practicing" sin? Don't distort the word of God.
  5. Space Merchant, Révélation 12:12 Malheur à la terre et à la mer, parce que le Diable est descendu vers vous, ayant une grande fureur, sachant qu’il [n’]a [qu’]une courte période. ” ——————— Satan est présentement déchainé…. ———————— Patiently waiting for Truth Revelation 12:12 Woe to the earth and the sea, for the devil is come down to you in great wrath, knowing that he hath but a short time. " ------- Satan is presently unleashed.... --------
  6. Patiently waiting for Truth Jude 1 4 For certain individuals whose condemnation was written about[b] long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord. 5 Though you already know all this, I want to remind you that the Lord[c] at one time delivered his people out of Egypt, but later destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day. 7 In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrahand the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire. 8 In the very same way, on the strength of their dreams these ungodly people pollute their own bodies, reject authority and heap abuse on celestial beings. ——————————— The love of God d’nt mean that he (The Father) loves all the sins and does not care about your conduct. To come to such a perverted reasoning is a lie inspired by the master liar. ———— Do you Know what is the filling of the true God about this question of homosexuality. FOR YOU, in "your opinion", what does the Creator think about homosexuality ? According to your previous comment, it seems that he doesn't care... Is that is your opinion ? ————————————-
  7. Patiently waiting for the truth Je traduit: « Je vous ai répondu plus haut, et je suis désolé de ne pas savoir parler ou écrire en français. Vous semblez en effet penser et écrire comme un pharisien. Ma réponse ci-dessus ne détourne pas la question, MAIS je peux dire que votre vraie raison de demander n'est pas que vous voulez une vraie réponse. Votre attitude est celle d'un pharisien. Vous voulez vivre selon la LOI et non selon l'amour de Dieu en Jésus-Christ. Dites-moi donc, Dieu voit-il une différence entre les homosexuels et l'homosexualité ? J'aimerais être assez intelligent pour trouver la référence où @JW Insider a suggéré qu'à un moment donné un membre du GB était "probablement" homosexuel. » —————————————- There is a difference between homosexuality and homosexuality. Someone can be a homosexual, either by "practicing" it, or by not practicing it. The subject in the post is a "practicing" homosexual. Answer, please, I repeat: according to you, what does God think, and I specify here, of the "practiced" homosexuality, example: Sodom and Gommore? I have not yet seen your answer. I still hope!
  8. I am franch language. As that situation, i translate your comment: « Oh ! vous êtes de peu de foi. Quel est le but de cette question ? Tu parles comme un pharisien........... Je l'ai déjà fait savoir dans le sujet ci-dessus. Nous savons que c'est mal parce que nous croyons la parole de Dieu et la parole de Dieu nous dit que l'homosexualité est mal. Cependant, le point du sujet était que les différents JWs gèrent la situation différemment. Alors dites-moi, quand vous faites du ministère, refusez-vous d'enseigner aux homosexuels ? Refusez-vous vraiment de parler aux homosexuels ? Jésus a-t-il refusé de parler ou même de manger avec des personnes immorales ? Non. Rappelez-vous que ceux avec qui Jésus a passé du temps étaient des Israélites, qui connaissaient la loi et savaient ce que Dieu aime et ce qu'il déteste. Vous devriez lire Luc 7, à partir du verset 36. Luc 7:36 Or, un des Pharisiens lui demandait de déjeuner chez lui. Il entra donc dans la maison du Pharisien et s’étendit à table. 7:37 Et, voyez, une femme, qui était connue dans la ville comme pécheresse, apprit qu’il était étendu à table dans la maison du Pharisien, et elle apporta un récipient d’albâtre rempli d’huile parfumée ; 7:38 et, se plaçant derrière, à ses pieds, elle se mit à pleurer et commença à lui mouiller les pieds de ses larmes, et elle les essuyait avec les cheveux de sa tête. De plus, elle embrassait tendrement ses pieds et les enduisait avec l’huile parfumée. 7:39 À cette vue, le Pharisien qui l’avait invité se dit en lui-même : “ Cet [homme], s’il était prophète, saurait qui et quelle sorte de femme elle est, celle qui le touche : que c’est une pécheresse. ” ———— Puis il dit à la femme : « Tes péchés sont pardonnés. » 49 Ceux qui étaient étendus à table avec lui commencèrent à se dire entre eux : « Qui est cet homme qui va jusqu’à pardonner les péchés ? » 50 Mais il dit à la femme : « Ta foi t’a sauvée. Va en paix. » ———————- Cette femme de foi a-t-elle persister dans son péché ? 1 Jean 3:4 Tout homme qui pratique le péché pratique aussi l’illégalité, et ainsi le péché est l’illégalité. 3:5 Vous savez aussi que celui-là a été manifesté pour enlever [nos] péchés, et il n’y a pas de péché en lui. 3:6 Tout homme qui demeure en union avec lui ne pratique pas le péché ; tout homme qui pratique le péché ne l’a pas vu et n’est pas non plus parvenu à le connaître. 1John 3: 6 Everyone remaining in union with him does not practice sin; no one who practices sin has either seen him or come to know him. 7 Little children, let no one mislead you; the one who practices righteousness is righteous, just as that one is righteous. 8 The one who practices sin originates with the Devil, because the Devil has been sinning from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was made manifest, to break up the works of the Devil. ====================== Forgiveness is for the repentant and those who "turn from their sight. 1 John 3:6 .... Mentions the "practice" of sin. ================ Just to know your knowledge about God's feelings, I repeat my question (and hope for a clear answer on the subject by NOT answering my question, or deflecting this question): FOR YOU, in "your opinion", what does the Creator think about homosexuality. I anticipate your answer. Thank you!
  9. Patiently waiting for Truth What does the Creator think of those who "practice" homosexuality? (Just to see "if" you know) Best regard !
  10. L'ancien représentant américain Beto O'Rourke, D-Texas, a déclaré lors de l'assemblée publique de CNN sur l'égalité avec les candidats démocrates à la présidence que les églises, collèges et organisations religieuses devraient perdre leur statut exonéré d'impôt si elles s'opposent au mariage homosexuel.
  11. This club sounds more to your liking...

    If you want... start one similar in French... I can assist you if you wish.

  12. Bonjours ma "Queen Esther "

    On dirait que le site est pourri par les apostats.....

    Quel est l'avenir de ce groupe ?

    Agapé !




      @admin  Sorry to intrude and be totally off topic BUT ADMIN, have i been locked out from commenting on JW Issues or is there a problem with this site / forum ? 

      @Administatorheere I'm in England and cannot comment on any other JW topics at all. This is the only way i can find to communicate to the forum.

      Any advice please ? Or am i not allowed on here anymore  ? 

    2. Queen Esther

      Queen Esther

      Dear brother Alzasior Lutor,

      I will write you in private on wednesday.

      Many greetings from Germany🙏  sister 'Queen Esther' 🌹💚🌹

    3. The Librarian

      The Librarian

      @JOHN BUTLER you will first need to join the particular club you are wanting to participate in....

      See an example when you click on the top site logo

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  13. w 01-2017 At the regional convention this summer 2018, the look of right side, i see this so many time.... Unbelivable !
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