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James Thomas Rook Jr.

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  1. . Somehow the phrase "Who dares disturb my slumber .." comes to mind with that giant Land Shark. .
  2. . If there is two things I have learned in life .... NEVER trust a man who does not drink Whiskey of some sort, or have a dog who loves him. I don't think Rutherford had a dog, but who am I to ... uh... Judge?. .
  3. . I agree that disfellowshipping is a necessary component of Congregational discipline ... and a straight reading of the Bible makes that very, very clear .... but THE WAY it's done makes all the difference. Currently it is petulant, overreaching, cruel, and ONLY serves the purpose of creating fear and a foreboding ... so much so that The Russian Federation, used to the tyrannies of the old Soviet Union, are very close to EXPELLING the Jehovah's Witnesses Organizations from their country for "Extremism", because the way disfellowshipping is DONE, we are destroying whole families.... not just the ones disfellowshipped!, .... not because the Russian Government is persecuting anybody ... but because we DESERVE it. If there is ANY civilization on this Earth that fully understands what political "purging" in a "worker's paradise" is ... it's the Russians. . .
  4. TrueTom: You really, Really, REALLY! (or as Elmer Fudd woud say "weawwy, Weawwy, WEAWWY!) NEED TO IMPROVE YOUR READING COMPREHENSION SKILLS! You have "successfully" managed 100% of the time to misunderstand EVERYTHING I have ever stated. EVER. ALWAYS 100% OF THE TIME! I mention that I was run through the mill (paraphrased) by an Elder for not providing my wife a phone, when I was too poor to have a phone ( by the way, this was in 1972 or thereabouts, when the only thing that existed was rotary dial phones ... later as things improved, I got a car mobile phone, as big as a suitcase in the trunk, and a console in front of the front seat, but it too was a dial phone with a rotary dial...) and this is what you got out of it .... " ... If JTR conducted himself as bombastically in person as he does online, the elders were probably on him repeatedly. They might have counseled him about something quite serious and a cell phone was mentioned in passing or as an example, and he chooses to remember getting chewed out over a cell phone." . I was struggling to keep a woman with Cystic Fibrosis alive, and until she ran off with my best friend that we both grew up with, an ex-Bethelite, and a Pioneer, I did a pretty good job at it. He was "Brother Watchtower" and I was the worn out schlub with the bills, and no patience for idiocy. You have no IDEA, not the slightest clue who I really am ... but what I post here IS who I really am. Why not? I have never begged for my life, been close to death several dozen times ... and my tone should ... SHOULD have indicated to you that I don't give a rat's ass what ANYBODY, except Jehovah God, and my wife thinks of me. And yeas, the Elders are on my case CONTINUALLY ...the ones I have not scared off. If they want to ask me anything .. I am as helpful as I can be .. IF .. they put it in writing, and it is signed by the Body of Elders. I learned THAT one the hard, Hard, HARD way, (... in such matters I was a VERY slow learner ...) . I do have a moral obligation to tell the Truth to the Brotherhood. I have no moral obligation to teach them reading comprehension skills, logic and reasoning ability ... they can get it the HARD way, like I did in over 50 years experience ,.. by getting the tests first ... and the lessons, afterwards. Nothing sharpens a person's perceptions like getting beat up. IRON SHARPENS IRON SOFT SOAP SHARPENS NOTHING. .
  5. . Years ago, I was sick, and broke, and my three children went to an Assembly for three days ... about three hours travel, each way, hotel rooms, restaurants, etc., and when they came back I asked them to share with me what they had learned for three days of their lives, and about $600 in expenses .... and with a great deal of excitement they told me they had learned the TOES of Nebuchadnezzar's image no longer meant what we used to think they meant ... but that but there was "new light", and they NOW meant something completely different. I am a retired engineer, and it is POSSIBLE for me to care less, but even with my sense of humor and imagination ... I am having trouble visualizing HOW I could care less. The same with the 24 Elders. And a MILLION other things that we cannot see, cannot prove, and NO MATTER WHAT IT IS ... It has absolutely no effect whatsoever on our daily work-a-day lives. WE HAVE REAL PROBLEMS TO CONTEND WITH. I had three Elders surround me at the Kingdom Hall to ask me what I thought of the ( most holy and sacred) Governing Body ... and I blurted out "I do not think of them AT ALL!" There were no follow up questions. . .
  6. . A million words spoken a million times will not change the fact that True Religion is ALWAYS in the best interests of the people God loves. The Pharisees were ABANDONED by God for their never-ending grab to consolidate and reinforce THEIR political power. .... and TYRANNY ruled as the order of the day.
  7. . There are GOOD Detectives ... and there are BAD Detectives ... BAD Detectives do not detect much, because they assume things based on THEIR OWN PROJECTIONS ... things not in evidence. .
  8. True Tom: "That almost sounds like an ad hominem attack. Do you want me to explain what that term means, as you did for my benefit? I wish you well on your recovery from your operation." It almost sounds like an "Ad Hominum" attack, because it ALMOST was. You got it wrong AGAIN ... at least you are 100% consistent. Reread what I ACTUALLY posted earlier this week.
  9. If that is true, I can only think of ONE reason you wanted to burn your house down ... ( and by the way, I specifically stated I was NOT qualified to do Bible Translation ... you have a predisposition for deliberately misunderstanding EVERYTHING I have ever stated...). But I have a sense of humor. Oh, and ...uh ... being RIGHT covers a multitude of sins .....
  10. . I was there when the "white shirts" were kept ... I was called off the platform because I had a moustache ... I was severely counseled for disrespect for showing up at the Kingdom Hall on a red Honda 350 motorcycle, I was castigated for not "letting" my wife have a phone, when I was too poor to afford one .... and the list is legion. I saw MANY Brothers treated worse than myself, and if they had money and "in" relatives they became bullies never held to any accountability. Every man has to decide for himself where he MUST draw the line, or he ceases being a MAN, and reverts to being a male sheep, led to the slaughterhouse, and eaten, by people never satisfied with ONE sheep, they want them ALL. . . ...and how MANY lives were ruined by this little gem? .
  11. . Well... it took me two full hours to find the photo, I had to wade through about 4TB of "stuff. I am the guy in the top left corner.
  12. . .....sigh ..... ... how much simpler life would be, and how many tens of millions of honest hearted, righteously inclined people would have NOT been chased away, if the JW leadership had NOT made stuff up with no basis whatsoever ... except a million irrelevant words repeated over and over, and over and over ... and simply said ,,,, "The Bible does not say, and I DO NOT KNOW!" IT IS NOT REPREHENSIBLE TO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING ... It is to PRETEND you do, to gullible people looking for Truth. .
  13. . Remember in the Musical "The Sound of Music", with Julie Andrews . Her Screen Husband had WILLINGLY served in the Armed forces of Germany during World War I, but 20 or so years later, when the Germany he loved was taken over by evil beyond description, he refused to serve in The German Navy as a submarine commander, and he and his musical family escaped by foot over the Swiss Alps into Switzerland. I was baptized in 1964 in Richmond Virgina at an assembly in the name of "The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" ...ONLY ! In 1985 The Society changed the baptism oath which alludes to the holy spirit with a DIRECT oath of allegiance to "God's Spirit Directed Organization ... BECAUSE ... if that change was not made ... the Society had NO LEGAL RIGHT to disfellowship you, any more than they would have had the right to disfellowship ANY Jehovah's Witness before we adopted the name. ... as was demonstrated by their treasury being harpooned by many lawsuits. Today's Watchtower Bible and Tract Society is totally controlled by the Governing Body Helpers, the Accountants, and most importantly the Society's Lawyers, who fight a never ending and increasing battle against crushing lawsuits for EVERY sort of reason. If you have been baptized since 1985, YOU ARE STUCK! .
  14. . ... because petty tyranny, spoken in soft soothing words (sometimes MILLIONS of words, for the hypnotic effect, which always works ... people tire and go into a hypnotic trance quite naturally ... ) is not perceived as TYRANNY. .
  15. Yeah .... I think my take on that particular photo was posted on the Archive, somewhere around the end of 2015, after the Australian Royal Commission on Child Abuse Case No. 29, excoriated GB Bro, Geoffery Jackson under oath, and caught in in at least three lies, and the Australian Branch Coordinator and several Elders from the Australian Kingdom wre so flummoxed that they lied to unsuccessfully try and cover up the THOUSANDS of unreported cases of Child sexual abuse, even though the Commission ALREADY had the secret records subpoenaed from the Society all across Australia. They keep better records than I do, and I think the complete video proceedings are still on line if anyone has an appetite for multi-level pathos. I found it embarrassing to watch, but I am retired, and I had time to watch the entire weeks proceedings live. This made world news at the time for anyone who makes a point to keep up with global news. If anyone can find my take-off of the above picture, please post it... sorta like Facebook giving a trip down memory lane. MEANWHILE ... you will just have to live with my meme' of the Society's laying off 6,000 Special Pioneers and Bethelites, which I discovered looking for the "Celebrity" meme'. .
  16. . Anna I realize that accuracy depends on your definition definition of what precision is. Please do the research on the word "brazen" I mentioned earlier, and read the book "Truth in Translation" I mentioned earlier. ... an see if your opinions remain the same. After you have done the homework, I would very much like to hear your considered opinion. .
  17. . Bible Speaks: First of all I have been on the Archive for somewhere around 5 years and more, and made over 6,400 comments, and you must have just discovered my postings. My outrageous sense of humor is certainly an acquired taste... if EVER adjusted for. Some people enjoy my satirical, biting comments some don't ..... but I try to give insight in to how people work, and WHY people do things ... of COURSE based on my particular life experiences and observations. With some people, having similar perspectives and life experiences as my own, they will INSTANTLY get what I was trying to say with this post, REALIZE it's only a joke, laugh, and move on and have a nice day. Other people will have reactions from mild entertainment, to understanding NOTHING .. the worst being the convening of a witch hunt. ..and as far a something upsetting me .... in the case of Global Thermonuclear War, I plan to get a lawn chair, and a case of beer, and sit out in the middle of my street, and watch the show! .
  18. You would have to go to YouTube, and see the WHOLE movie to understand. Different people look at the SAME things ... and see something completely different... this is especially true across cultures. During WWI the Allied Forces and the Germans had been engaged in brutal trench warfare for a year, back and forth ... and trading insults across the combat lines. The Germans yelled across the open field "Woodrow Wilson is a (insert many expletives here... ) no good bastard!" And the American Expeditionary forces yelled back, "Yes, he IS!" It is a LONG tradition of really free people to Lampoon authority. Nothing is more insidious and evil, than the petty tyranny of the "politically correct". .
  19. .WARNING! If you have absolutely NO sense of humor, please do not continue .... ... and now for something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT , depending on your perceptive abilities ... A Meme' from the 1982 Movie by Mel Brooks - "History of the World - Part I"
  20. Anna: In the REAL world, divorced from agenda driven fantasy, there is a rule that can never be violated. It's called the "Holy Rule of Design", and it ESPECIALLY applies to Bible translation ... that is why the best Bible Translation in the World ( 1962-2012 NWT) took ten years to make, even though labor was almost free. Good + Fast = Expensive Choose good and fast and we will postpone every other job, cancel all appointments and stay up 25-hours a day just to get your job done. But, don't expect it to be cheap. This supposes EXTREMELY qualified people, young, strong and motivated .. AND EDUCATED. Good + Cheap = Slow Choose good and cheap and we will do a great job for a discounted price, but in the case of the PRE- 2013 paraphrased "Silver Sword" , the 1962-2012 NWT 2013 it took ten years and the quality was MAGNIFICENT! (Read Jason Bedunn's unbiased "Truth in Translation", available on Amazon for a full explanation WHY). Fast + Cheap = Inferior Choose fast and cheap and expect AN INFERIOR job delivered on time. You truly get what you pay and in the case of translating 880 different items on a schedule is a nightmare. Translation is NOT a science ..it is an art, and in the case of translating a paraphrased Bible (2013 NWT) into paraphrased magazines and literature, and even other bibles, also paraphrased ... something has to GIVE. And that something is QUALITY. In a culture (ours) where we hang on every nuance, and discuss everything to death ... extracting truth from something that has been paraphrased across languages to OTHER paraphrases across languages , by people OTHER than people who are talented and well educated in BOTH languages is almost impossible ... and still retain the nuances and accurate idiomatic expressions of the original. The PERFECT real life example example of this is the 2013 NWT, which uses the word "Brazen" at least twice. Be a sport ... REALLY look it up. Nowhere in the Bible is the word brazen used in ANY translation, before the "Silver Sword" ... not even the NWT.. If you look it up in Benjamin Wilson's "Emphatic Diaglott", which the Society bought and publishes, , or the "Kingdom Interlinear" Translation, and look up the same scriptures, NOTHING even remotely close is there. (As an an extremely IMPORTANT aside, The Super Secret 2010 Elders Handbook which 95% of all JWs do not even knows exist, and sisters are not permitted to read, and no one is to make copies ( but which was instantly available all over the Internet), mentioned that "brazen conduct" was a disfellowshipping offense, whatever THAT means, and they needed to PUT that word in the 2013 NWT .... Copies of the 2010 Handbook were given to the Government of Finland, and Australia for their reference,... but YOU can't read it, unless you are an elder ... but that is a whole other very, VERY sad discussion ....). I could go on for perhaps 20 pages about this, but I just got out of the Hospital this afternoon, and I tire easily ... fortunately I had highly qualified, highly educated, experienced doctors taking care of me. It was fast, and it was good ... but it was NOT cheap. What made it GOOD was HIGHLY qualified experts ... because without REAL EXPERIENCED experts, you may as well hammer with a rock. .I hope you have enough real life experiences to discern what reality is ... because the Universe will judge us impartially, and without mercy if we are wrong. .Pick any TWO. The Universe will not allow you to have all three..
  21. . All of the discussions above are rational, reasonable, and make common sense .... on both sides ... and THIS is why the Russians, who are VERY VERY family oriented ... are about to expel all Jehovah's Witnesses from their lands .... because even by standards made common by the old Soviet Union ... what we do is petulent, cruel, unreasonable, unfair, and makes no sense whatsoever IN THE WAY IT IS DOGMATICALLY APPLIED. It creates hatred born of self-defense, and destroys families ! The accusation they make against us is "Extremism". And just like the Pharisees of old who HAD the law, and mis-applied it ... the shoe fits. If we are expelled from the Russian Federation, it will be BECAUSE WE DESERVE IT. .
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