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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    I used to spend a lot of time in the office of a brother in Writing (F.R.), the same brother who gave the primary part of my wedding talk. He once gave me a copy of a 10-page letter than came from a person who saw himself as the prophet Ezekiel. Because he had responded to this person before, he said further contact from this same person was sent from Correspondence up to his office. Years later, after Bethel, I heard about a person online, where the name might have been something like "watchman" or "e-watchman" who also seemed to step into this "Ezekiel" role. (For a while I thought it F.R.'s correspondent was same person as "watchman," but I'm pretty sure the timing isn't right.) But it reminds me that there is sometimes an informal tracking for such letters, and Kosonen has elsewhere said he has been sending similar letters for the last 12 or 13 years. Such letters are not taken seriously. And when they are associated with "anointed" persons, they might even be taken less seriously. Kosonen pointed out that Bro Herd gave a talk where he mentioned that it's often the "new" anointed persons who are troublemakers in the congregations.
    The issue of mental health, unfortunately, is still touchy. It's not like noticing someone has a limp and asking whether they ever got it checked out. He has referred to his "moody body" in the past and another reference that makes me think that broaching the topic is warranted. I'll probably regret it later, though, because no attempt to diagnose someone should be attempted by non-professionals (me) or from things written online. But Kosonen has left about 12 years worth of material in his audit trail, from an old website (spiritualanswers) to paradisecafe to jehovahs-witness to here, along with a set of youtube videos and links he has liked. He has promoted videos and content from Alex Jones, and others of similar ilk. One could easily get lost in the web of end-time prophecy links (sites/videos/forums) that Kosonen has associated himself with.
    But when I look closely at his points, there are a few of them that several people here would quickly agree with, including Witnesses, non-Witnesses, and ex-Witnesses. But many of his points have gone off into complete fantasy, too, imo. Mixing those issues together will lose any audience even where good points are made. I think the letter reveals a lot more about himself than he realizes he is revealing. And what we say on the www, will stay on the www.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Anna in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    I had a good friend once tell me, and I realized it might be true, "You are not crazy enough to be put away ... but if you ever got in, they might not let you go!".

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from JW Insider in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    I had a good friend once tell me, and I realized it might be true, "You are not crazy enough to be put away ... but if you ever got in, they might not let you go!".

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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to JW Insider in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    Jan Kosonen, @Kosonen
    In several places online, you have seen fit to provide your name, your email address, and much of your personal history. But you have also provided an "audit trail" of failed time-based interpretations and predictions. I began to point this out before and you do not appear back away from this history. Instead you continue to present yourself as an anointed person who actually wants to be seen as a modern day prophet.
    I began to write a paraphrase of your letter as I think it will have been understood by any responsible person who reads it at the headquarters of the CCJW/WTS. But that started looking like an exercise in parody. And I didn't want you to think I was just trying to make fun of you. I do think you will be seen as one of hundreds of mentally disturbed and imbalanced persons who has associated with Jehovah's Witnesses. I know another person very well who left Bethel in good mental health, but within a few years began to suffer greatly, and began to consider a lot of conspiracies and speculations about various "end-times" scenarios. I see several similarities. I don't wish to spell out these many similarities, but I do feel badly that he doesn't attempt to get the mental health care that he desperately needs. I am not sure if you have sought mental health professionals yourself. I hope that you have.
    In addition, I hope you have also prayed for the kind of spiritual guidance that can help us maintain mental balance. I know that you consider yourself one of the anointed, and are therefore very familiar with the following verses:
    (Romans 8:26, 27) 26 In like manner, the spirit also joins in with help for our weakness; for the problem is that we do not know what we should pray for as we need to, but the spirit itself pleads for us with unuttered groanings. 27 But the one who searches the hearts knows what the meaning of the spirit is, because it is pleading in harmony with God for the holy ones.
    (1 Corinthians 10:12, 13) . . .Consequently let him that thinks he is standing beware that he does not fall. 13 No temptation has taken YOU except what is common to men. But God is faithful, and he will not let YOU be tempted beyond what YOU can bear, but along with the temptation he will also make the way out in order for YOU to be able to endure it.
    You show a lot of bravery and boldness in sending your letters as you have. But you also display a lot of haughtiness in a way that makes me think you are likely not always aware of how you come across to other people. This is a common theme among certain kinds of mental health issues. In cases like this, the sound of the haughtiness might sound to you like the necessary boldness to speak as an anointed prophet might. But if one truly has the "spirit" they would understand the need to pray for the ability to put themselves in the place of the other person, the ones you wish to speak to.
    (Philippians 2:1-4) . . .If, then, there is any encouragement in Christ, if any consolation of love, if any spiritual fellowship, if any tender affection and compassion, 2 make my joy full by being of the same mind and having the same love, being completely united, having the one thought in mind. 3 Do nothing out of contentiousness or out of egotism, but with humility consider others superior to you, 4 as you look out not only for your own interests, but also for the interests of others.
    (1 Corinthians 10:23, 24) . . .All things are lawful; but not all things are advantageous. All things are lawful; but not all things build up. 24 Let each one keep seeking, not his own [advantage], but that of the other person.
    I would hope you are brave and bold enough to allow persons you trust to speak openly to you about this possible health problem. Have you honestly asked anyone if they believe you might have mental health issues? Sometimes, what we won't see for ourselves is clear to others. Paul spoke to Timothy about men whose folly was very plain to all.
    (2 Timothy 3:9, 10) . . .Nevertheless, they will make no further progress, for their folly will be very plain to all, as it was with those two men. 10 But you have closely followed my teaching, my course of life, my purpose, my faith, my patience, my love, my endurance,
    So, I'll ask you more directly: Do you think that you might have mental health issues?
    I hope that you have persons you trust to ask this question about yourself.  If any of us ask enough people around us, I don't think any of us would get a perfect score on this account. But if there is any question at all in the minds of others then it's a very important point to consider, and look into more closely. And I can tell you right now that this question about you is already in the minds of several of us here.
    (Philippians 4:5-7) 5 Let your reasonableness become known to all men. The Lord is near. 6 Do not be anxious over anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication along with thanksgiving, let your petitions be made known to God; 7 and the peace of God that surpasses all understanding will guard your hearts and your mental powers by means of Christ Jesus.
    I'll be happy to engage the specifics of the points you made, but I do hope you will respond to these points, too.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Shiwiii in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    TTH:
    It concerns me NOT AT ALL to be slighted by people that I care absolutely nothing about ... or even the ones I do care deeply about,
    You care so deeply, as evidenced by your Epistle  .... YOU make the phone call
    Or ... as an alternative ... you could continue to be slighted, indignant, and ignorant.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Arauna in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    I revel in downvotes - especially from OCD-trio.  I must be doing something right then. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    Make it Pluto, and I’ll throw in 90,000.

    seriously, I cannot imagine why anyone would care about upvotes. (Not saying that you do)
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Space Merchant in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    As of today, I only have 3666 "upvotes".
    I understand that when I get 10,000 "upvotes", I get an all expense paid trip to Hawaii !
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    ... sorta like being stuck in the "third grade" FOREVER ?
    ... hearing the same lectures repeated over, and over, and over, and over, for 60 years?
    I certainly DO know how you feel!
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    If I could be bothered I'm sure I could find it, but there is no point. 
    If I remember rightly TTH said 'No one can disfellowship them' referring to the Governing Body.
    But no matter, you JWs are all alike  anyway. (And yes that is a reference to something TTH says)
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Arauna in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    As individuals they are accountable not as a group. If one of them breaks Jehovahs laws they will appoint a committee. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Thinking in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    4J:
    You seem to get disoriented and confused very easily, about who said what. Your credibility is already shot , with me, irregardless of the credibility of any arguments you may proffer, because of that.

     
    And MY point is there is no one on Earth that has the power to fire the Governing Body for any reason whatsoever ... and I am lamenting that fact ... NOT exulting in it.
    That makes them unaccountable to anyone, and immune to consequences for ANYTHING they do, at least inside the WTB&TS.
    The same thing was true in Jesus' time ... but Jesus himself commanded that Jews "stay with that system", until he himself replaced it.
    The GB is supposed to show mercy to us, but can't, because of policy.
    That does NOT mean we can't be understanding that they are deeply flawed men, trapped in a system they created, and have no idea how to change it.
    "STUFF HAPPENS" (paraphrased)
    Get used to it ... that's the way things REALLY are.
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from TrueTomHarley in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    TTH: You are naive ... or perhaps just less scarred than I am ...but you are not delusional.
    I read everything you write here, and have for years, and I remember ideas and principles like a steel trap.
    (Where I put my shoes ... not so much ....)
    On this forum, in the last 5 years, you did not say that which was attributed to you.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    4J:
    You seem to get disoriented and confused very easily, about who said what. Your credibility is already shot , with me, irregardless of the credibility of any arguments you may proffer, because of that.

     
    And MY point is there is no one on Earth that has the power to fire the Governing Body for any reason whatsoever ... and I am lamenting that fact ... NOT exulting in it.
    That makes them unaccountable to anyone, and immune to consequences for ANYTHING they do, at least inside the WTB&TS.
    The same thing was true in Jesus' time ... but Jesus himself commanded that Jews "stay with that system", until he himself replaced it.
    The GB is supposed to show mercy to us, but can't, because of policy.
    That does NOT mean we can't be understanding that they are deeply flawed men, trapped in a system they created, and have no idea how to change it.
    "STUFF HAPPENS" (paraphrased)
    Get used to it ... that's the way things REALLY are.
     
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    I don’t think that i ever said that. If I did, the context has been so altered as to make it meaningless
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    Perhaps they were, but there is such a thing as being clueless as to human relations. You don’t just show up on someone’s doorstep and start demanding things, taking for granted that your authority and wisdom is recognized by all, when you are in reality a complete stranger and nobody knows you from Adam. Any time an actual brother tries that on an actual doorstep he gets his head handed to him, as he should, for being so self-important.
    I wrote my previous comment last night, and I would have taken it down this morning had it not been replied to. I began to think that he is unwell and, that being the case, it was not very sporting of me to retort as I did.
    Look up from your egg breakfast, James, courtesy of you multitudinous chickens. My limo has just pulled up and I am on your doorstep to tell you everything that is wrong with you and how you must shape up if you would hope for God’s tolerance. It goes without saying that I know everything and you know nothing. Black is how I like my coffee.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Kosonen in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    It looks like they have read my letters becuse they try hard to convince the JWs that their teachings are true and that JWs should not allow themselves to be mislead by such as me. You can read the latest July 2020 study edition and find indications of that. And also May 2020 edition about Daniel 11 about the King of the North. I have clearly presented them facts that point to USA, especially when Donald Trump is president. But they insist that the King of the North is Russia. I really hope when they will be studing this article it will be evident that it is USA and not Russia.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    ... even as a Barbarian, I was trying to be careful ... like opening a door with two broken hinges.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Arauna in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    Most of the horror in this world is by people with, in their opinions, the very best of motives .... but it is almost always self delusion.
    Justice must be tempered with mercy for blind pawns ...
    ... and also blind "Kings".
    John 9:41
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Arauna in Overlooked by the Religion News Service—How Can That Be?   
    You gave a quick soundbyte without thinking it through. Moses made mistakes and was punished - not condemned to gehenna. He will get his ressurrection. Same with today's slave, they make mistakes but will not be condemned to second death.
    If you were appointed  in the place of God, I am sure all would get Gehenna!  That is why you can not be  a JW..... you have lost your humanity and mercy on other humans.  God himself says if you hate your neighbour in this way - you have no life in you. You are a vehicle of death.  Satan is the father of death..... so think through your  way of thinking and repent. 
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    @Arauna   dictator   noun   a ruler with total power over a country, typically one who has obtained control by force.   a person who behaves in an autocratic way. (in ancient Rome) a chief magistrate with absolute power, appointed in an emergency.   autocratic   adjective   relating to a ruler who has absolute power. "the constitutional reforms threatened his autocratic power" taking no account of other people's wishes or opinions; domineering. "a man with a reputation for an autocratic management style" I think this describes your Governing Body very well 
     
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Arauna in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    As I told you before, you do not acknowledge your ignorance regarding 'dictators'  because you bandy that word around as though it is ice-cream. 
    Soon you will know what true dictators are.... the way the world is going now.... and you will long for the freedom you had before.  
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to Arauna in Jehovah’s Witnesses Sue FaithLeaks Owners Over Convention Videos   
    Exactly- that is a dictator.
    Absolute power - like the CCP in China or North Korea.
     
    That is why I say you have no clue what it is like to live under such regimes because your personal choice is taken away from you.  Soon you will know what it means when you have no choices at all, what you eat, what you buy, what you drink, what you say,  and what you do is controlled by the state. 
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    What if a frog had wings, and could fly?
    Some of his points were very good, and very important.
    Some were strong personal opinions with no basis in fact.
    Of course, I may be wrong, but it is not probable.
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    James Thomas Rook Jr. reacted to TrueTomHarley in My latest letter to WT demanding correction from their side   
    It is just the most absurd thing, the way it is phrased: “I have tried to inform you of the necessary adjustments you ought to take in order to truly be in the truth.”
    It is just so pretentious. It is almost as bad as getting an ultimatum from the womanfromthehills of Facebook.
    Will they read a letter like that at Bethel? Dunno, but I never would. I might read one or two, but I gather that they receive a steady stream of these from ones who indicate from their very first words that they are unhinged.
    I can deal with loopy. And I can deal with self-important.  But someone who is loopy AND self-important....well, I don’t know how to deal with that. Pity the brother they’ve assigned to plow through stuff like this, but it just may be that nobody is assigned.
    I mean, can’t you just see this fellow rebuking Peter in the first century for blaming everything on that roaring lion the Devil, and telling him how if he doesn’t get his act together, there will be even further persecution?
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