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  1. I must ask you to consider who would have such authority given to them? Men who create their own doctrine, their own set of dates by using literal numbers to signify a symbolic coming and end of Armageddon? (Matt24:44; 25:13; Acts 1:7) Men who could not be inspired by Holy Spirit, since they run ahead with their personal goals? (Deut 18:20; 2 Tim 4:3,4) "On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jewish leaders, Jesus came and stood among them and said, ‘Peace be with you!’ 20 After he said this, he showed them his hands and side. The disciples were overjoyed when they saw the Lord. 21 Again Jesus said, ‘Peace be with you! As the Father has sent me, I am sending you.’ 22 And with that he breathed on them and said, ‘Receive the Holy Spirit. 23 If you forgive anyone’s sins, their sins are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven.’" These disciples remained attached to the vine of Christ - to TRUTH, receptive to the spiritual sap that flows from Jesus, to the faithful members of his Body. (Eph 4:4; 4:25) This means, that any fruit/teachings they would produce would be "good" and only support the teachings of Jesus Christ. Did any of them set a date as you have? Are they not the example to follow as leaders in truth? (2 Tim. 3:16-17; 2 Pet. 1:3-4) Should we wait until your date has come to prove you wrong? No. Assuming that you are anointed, it seems apparent that you dismiss the teachings and warnings of the Bible, and since you are not doing this, you could be labeled a renegade - an apostate against God's word in Christ. Any renegade or "branch" not in harmony with Christ's teachings is cut off from the vine. John 15:1-8 "Anyone who runs ahead and does not continue in the teaching of Christ does not have God; whoever continues in the teaching has both the Father and the Son. If anyone comes to you and does not bring this teaching, do not take them into your house or welcome them." 2 John 1:9,10 Do not the scriptures move your heart whatsoever, to consider your folly? It's not too late to repent. (Matt 3:8; 2 Tim 2:5)
  2. I don’t know of any greater hate or opposition toward God’s people, than the hate directed toward the anointed priesthood in the organization, who ARE God's holy people. Isa 43:10,21; 1 Pet 2:9; Mal 2:7; Heb 8:5; Rev 5:9,10
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    Your own words of doubt over their capabilities and assigned position to serve as God’s priests and shepherds, adds fuel to the fiery hate and jealousy the GB have toward God’s Temple members. (Matt 24:48-51; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,11,5-7) I see no hate expressed by exjws here, toward the anointed or toward JWs in general. Hate is a disease that permeates the hearts of all of you, through the actions of disfellowshipping of any who are victims of spiritual, emotional, and sexual abuse committed in the organization. No one, should silently support the abuse of another if they truly loved them; yet your "loving brotherhood" willingly turns its back against hate crimes committed by your leadership. It reminds me of the Jews who threw their garments in front of Saul (Paul), in support of his heinous deeds against God's holy people and the stoning of Stephen. The remorse Paul felt when alert to his sins, must have been excruciating, his sins were undoubtedly a heavy sorrowful burden he carried, although knowing he was forgiven. Acts 7:54-60 He felt the least deserving of God's grace out of all the apostles. (1 Cor 15:9) Yet, his repentant heart learned to love. What was a focal point of his preaching? Repentance, as well as the turning to Jesus Christ; which I believe was not just a coincidence.
  3. Excellent comment, and very sobering. The "sun" represents Jesus Christ, the light of truth. 2 Pet 1:19; Mal 4:2; Hos 6:3; Rev 1:16 -
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    These leaders are desperate to hang on to every JW who supports and feeds into their power and earthly treasures. Light will overcome the darkness of these false prophet/teachers, snuffing it out permanently. "This is what the Lord says concerning the prophets who lead my people astray, who proclaim peace when they have food to sink their teeth into but declare war against the one who puts nothing in their mouths. 6 Therefore, it will be night for you— without visions; it will grow dark for you— without divination. The sun will set on these prophets, and the daylight will turn black over them. 7 Then the seers will be ashamed and the diviners disappointed. They will all cover their mouths because there will be no answer from God." Micah 3:5-7
  4. I assure you, all of it is happening. The spiritual food offered on the blog link below, is presented by an inspired servant of God and Jesus Christ, a "Jew" under the New Covenant. Knowing truth and understanding of the last days, takes some work on our part. God provides it if we sincerely ask, but sometimes out of our desire to see things develop as we envision they should, we may miss the door already opened to us, by Christ. “Ask, and it will be given to you. Seek, and you will find. Knock, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened" Matt 7:7,8
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  5. You would have to add that last line...after I gave you a like. There goes breakfast. I think you'll find the transcript accurate.
  6. Splane's talk was the last one of the Saturday afternoon session of the convention - part 2. At about the 1:35 mark you'll hear his quote I posted here. A transcript of his talk has been provided by a few on exjw reddit. Here's a link...
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    I think it is imperative to read this transcript and let the raw evidence of his lies and propaganda, sink in.
  7. I have to share this quip from GB D. Splane's convention talk on apostates and the news medial. "Now, Paul compares the Beroeans with the Thessalonians. What do we know about the Thessalonians? They didn’t have YouTube in those days, but at one point, the Thessalonians apparently heard a rumor that “the day of Jehovah” had arrived. Who circulated the rumor? An apostate? Maybe. But maybe it was just someone who had heard the rumor and passed it on without checking it out. APPARENTLY heard a rumor? Have you ever done that — passed on a report without checking the facts? I think all of us have to admit that we’ve been guilty of that at one time or another. But now, how did the Thessalonians react? They were alarmed. They were “quickly shaken from [their] reason.” We mustn’t let that happen to us. When you hear something, check it out; don’t just circulate it; don’t just believe it; check it out." All checked out, as you have done, and it isn't a rumor. We can continue to circulate it.
  8. Oh sir, I’m not sure what you are wanting to see. To his people, Jesus was not recognized as the Messiah. He was scorned, ridiculed, and put to death. The faithful anointed are treated the same way by their people in the organization. (Rev 11:1-3,7-10) Presently, you won’t see the “true” anointed standing up in front of the world as the GB do, advertising an organization to come to. They will not exalt themselves in such a flamboyant manner, gathering riches to build their organization. They will not be organized whatsoever, through the parameters of an earthly organization. God does things His way, not by the way of man. (Isa 55:8,9) These faithful ones, would be speaking about the truth in Jesus Christ. As servants of Christ, they would be revealing the understanding of Revelation, since these scrolls were promised to be opened to Christ’s servants in the last days. (Rev 1:1) They would sound the alarm of the presence of the elder body/ man of lawlessness – the “disgusting thing” “sitting”/ruling over, standing where it does not belong, the Temple of God. (Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; 13: 18) They would explain the need for God’s people to “come out of her” – away from the captivity of false teachings and idolatry. (Rev 18:4-8) They would exalt the Almighty God and His Son. Anyone, who desires truth and who seek it out, would be led to these ones, by the Father through Jesus, because they speak truth. (John 6:37; 14:6) They provide it for those who desire it. Matt 24:15,16 – “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” The “hills”/”mountains”, are the faithful anointed who are not only, the Temple/Zion, but are “living stones” of the Temple Mount Zion. (Psalm 72:3; Ezek 36:8; Jer 4:6)
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    This is already happening. That signal flag has been raised for those with eyes that see, and many have responded to the “fruit”, of the spiritual banquet God has provided. (John 15:16; Matt 22:1-13) But, when the Harlot/false prophet is rejected by the organization,(Rev 17:15-18) and the Wt. then goes down after a symbolic “one hour” of reign, (Rev 17:12) it is then that the flag/ “banner” will be prominent for all – ALL – from all nations who want to know God and His Son. God will raise this banner, not man. (Isa 41:27; 13:1-5; Rev 17:14; Isa 5:26; 11:12; 2:2-4)
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    The lowly will be exalted and the exalted will be brought to nothing. (Luke 14:11; 1 Cor 1:27)
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  9. To the anointed, Paul said, "If any of you has a grievance against another, how dare he go to law before the unrighteous instead of before the saints! 2Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4So if you need to settle everyday matters, do you appoint as judges those of no standing in the church? 5 I say this to your shame. Is there really no one among you wise enough to arbitrate between his brothers? 6Instead, one brother goes to law against another, and this in front of unbelievers! 7The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means that you are thoroughly defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, even against your own brothers!" 1 Cor 6:1-8 The organization gets around all of this truth in two ways, by stating that the elder body "represents the holy priesthood"...and now stating that every JW is the spiritual Temple of God - the Body of Christ. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Eph 2:20-22; 2 Thess 2:3,4,8-10 New light, which will backfire once Christ exposes the man of lawlessness present in the organization. 1 Cor 3:16,17 - "Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? If anyone [a]defiles ("destroys") the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." We can also keep in mind that the Spirit of God dwelling in the anointed heart, is a sign of inspiration, which the GB alone says they do not have. How then, can their followers be inspired, if they aren't?
  10. 🙂 The Bible can give us various descriptive terms of the same thing. Example - a food store can also be called a market, a supermarket, grocery, mercantile or Walmart. They are generally the same, but also give their own personal meaning to it.
  11. It's amazing how this leadership imitates the Pharisees.
  12. Although the anointed priests have a specific work cut out for them, (John 13:20; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Mal 2:7; Eph 4:4-13) which is to aid all in the Kingdom with life-giving truth from the Father and Jesus, (Rev 22:2,17) Jesus promised that all faithful believers will “know the truth”. John 8:32 That is only possible through the blessing of Holy Spirit. “If you love me, keep my commandments. 16 I will ask the Father to give you another Helper, to be with you always. 17 He is the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor recognizes him. But you recognize him, because he lives with you and will be inyou.” John 14:15-17. The Holy Spirit doesn’t reside anywhere else, but in one’s heart, which means stating that the Holy Spirit as responsible for the “spirit-directed organization” is a fallacy, and rather, identifies an idol. Who is guiding who? Is this spirit-directed organization guiding the GB; or did the GB, “filled” with an evil spirit, “breathe” life into its idol? Rev 13:11,12,15 When Jesus spoke of those in the world who cannot receive truth, he was meaning the “world” of his people, who rejected him and his teachings. How many teachings of Christ can we name, that have been rejected or twisted by the Wt’s. leadership? Where do we begin.
  13. You said once, that women represent covenants, and you used Gal 4:26. The "New Covenant" that the anointed are under, is a "woman" - a "mother" of life as @Kick_Faceinatordescribed. It is New Jerusalem and is found not in an established, physically perceived location in heaven, but is found within the hearts of anointed. (Luke 17:21) It is the same woman that Satan is trying to destroy by a "flood" of lies and that sadly, you partake in. (Rev 12:15; 16:13-16; Luke 17:26-27; Rev 3:17-22) Your concept, or I should say the falsehood of your leadership, of who the woman is, did not give birth to Jesus Christ, since Jesus was around before any angel was ever created. And it was through Jesus, that angels were created. So, since "all things have been created through him and for him", how could it give birth to him? “The Lord brought me forth as the first of his works, before his deeds of old" Then I was constantly at his side. I was filled with delight day after day, rejoicing always in his presence" Prov 8:22,30 "The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16 For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. 17 He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18 And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy." Col 1:15-18 Jesus was the promised seed for his physical nation. That promise was fulfilled through the "woman" covenant with Israel (Hagar - Gal 4:25), but also the covenant made with Abraham for a seed (Sarah - Gal 4:24,31,26). (Rom 4:13) Jesus as this human heir, replaced Adam. 1( Cor 15:45; Gal 3:16) The "woman"/New Jerusalem/"mother"/Sarah is also a promise of more seed...in the "144,000" Bride of Jesus Christ. (1 Pet 3:6,14) Since Jesus inaugurated the New Covenant at his death, which is the woman of Revelation 12:1-5 how could he be "born" from that woman? The Abrahamic covenant promise of seed continues, until the Kingdom is established. A "third generation" of seed at the union of Christ and his Bride, will bring forth children. (John 5:28,29; Acts 24:15; Rom 8:19,21; Rev 21:2-5; 22:2,17)
  14. All that you wrote is absolute truth! I just feel the need to specify that any links I gave in association with
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    , belongs to Pearl Doxsey whom I work with, as well as Rachel who is responsible for the letter writing to Wt.'s leadership worldwide. ("two or three witnesses" 2 Cor 13:1. There can be an application of dichotomy about this, which the Wt. uses blasphemously in judicial committees, and ignores when it comes to child/sexual abuse. Even early on, God made exceptions in this case which the org. defiantly states that it doesn't apply; thus, they have transgressed God's decrees in Jesus Christ, to show mercy and love to one's neighbor and to the oppressed. Deut 22:25,26; Matt 5:18; Gal 5:14; 1 John 5:9; James 1:27 Pearl and I are also admins. of a public facebook group that I've mentioned here also.
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  15. They are busy guys with family and work responsibilities. Pranksters, they aren't. Protectors, yes.
  16. Well, we know that the ancient physical temples were sacred because they signified the presence of God among His people. But more than that, He allowed His Spirit to “fill the Temple” as we see in Solomon’s dedication of the temple he built. (2Chron 5:13,14) His Spirit also filled the early moveable tabernacle, and He dwelt with His people. (Exod 25:8) It is the same with the anointed as God’s Temple. Individually, they are the temple, since their heart is the home/ dwelling of God’s Spirit. (John 14:17; 1 Cor 3:16; Rom 8:9,11) But, as “living stones” they also together, are part of and represent the entire Temple. (1 Pet 2:Eph 2:22; Heb 3:6) In the Kingdom of God, His Spirit will “dwell” with mankind again, but through the anointed/Bride and Jesus Christ. The symbolic "144,000" can be compared to mobile tabernacles carrying the Spirit and knowledge of God; but joined together, they are “New Jerusalem/Zion/Temple of God with Jesus Christ. (Rev 22:3; 7:15) Elders will not be representing New Jerusalem on earth. They represent an earthly organization, not the Temple of God. This organization will not exist in the Kingdom. (Isa 43:21,10; 1 Pet 2:5,10) It will be the anointed - a “new creation”, both spirit and human, who with Jesus their “husband”, will bring the Spirit and knowledge from God, to earth. (1 Cor 5:17; Gen 28:12; John 1:51) (John 16:28; Heb 1:6) (Mal 2:7; Rev 5:9,10; Heb 1:14; Rev 22:17) Didn’t Jesus do just that when on earth? He brought the Spirit of God and wisdom of His word, to mankind. He will do that again in the Kingdom. I also saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared like a bride adorned for her husband. 3 I heard a loud voice from the throne say, “See, the tent of God is among humans! He will make his home with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them, and he will be their God. “ I.“tent” - “tent, tabernacle, of that well known movable temple of God after the pattern of which the temple at Jerusalem was built I don’t know if this helps with the connection, but as an example…there are over 60 power poles that must be replaced between where we live and the next small village because of the forest fire that just occurred. Upon seeing employees working on the lines, one could easily say, the power company is here. The individual workers represent the power company, but also are part of the entire power company. Through their presence we can conceptualize the power company as a whole. If they have the power company’s logo on their shirt, well then, we may say they are the power company.
  17. Nope, not in my case. That is not possible in this family of a network director and a network admin. My sons will not allow me to own a crappy computer. 🙂
  18. Very true. There are some additional aspects that we can consider about the baptism and anointing of Jesus. In Israel, the traditional pattern was that a prophet anointed the new ruling king with literal oil which signified God’s spirit upon the chosen one. Elijah the prophet anointed Jehu (as well as a foreign king) – 1 Kings 19:15,16 Samuel anointed David – 1 Kings 16:13 …and Saul – 1 Sam 10:1 In 1 Sam 16:14 and 18:12, it tells us that God’s spirit “departed from Saul”, showing that the anointing earlier witnessed, was most definitely the sign for people to understand that God had chosen them through His Spirit. So, Jesus complied with the need for his people to be repentant for their sins through baptism; but also, John’s presence as a prophet when the heavens opened to reveal the Spirit descending upon Jesus, confirms his anointing happened during that same time.
  19. This cursor jumping has happened to me many times over the last few years as well as all sorts of strange computer difficulties. I figure it is demonic intervention, since Satan would rather squelch any truth about his enemy, Jesus Christ.
  20. Then Pilate said to him, “So then you are a king!” Jesus replied, “You say that I am a king. For this reason I was born, and for this reason I have come into the world: in order that I can testify to the truth. Everyone who is of the truth hears my voice.” John 18:38
  21. Joel 3:14 - Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision! For the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision. We know that God isn't talking about a literal valley called "decision" in the last days. We must "decide" within our heart what to choose - truth or lies - life in Christ, or death in the darkness of Satan's "world". "This day I call the heavens and the earth as witnesses against you that I have set before you life and death, blessings and curses. Now choose life, so that you and your children may live" Deut 3:19 One war, we will physically see. That one is Satan’s diversion from the spiritual war at hand – the vital war to note. Although war began when Adam and Eve chose to listen to the lie, (Gen 3:15) the symbolic book of Revelation (Rev 1:1) explains what the culmination of this war is. It is the war against those “kings” in Christ, and those who have left him to serve the father of the LIE. (John 8:44) They have broken their covenant with God by tolerating falsehoods spoken from the mouths of false prophets and a powerful organization that rules over them. (Isa 28:15; Hos 8:1; 4:6) (Matt 24:24, 15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) They are spiritual harlots. (Hos 4:12;6:10; Rev 17:3-8) This is hostility between covenants and their “seed”, one of life in Jesus Christ and one of death under the Destroyer. (Gen 3:15; Rev 12:17) Armageddon involves the “kings of the earth” – which means those who will be found faithful, and those who have transgressed their covenant in Christ. That’s what’s important to notice! It doesn’t involve the political kings of the world. Rev 1:5 explains that the kings of the earth are Christ’s kings. (Rev 5:9,10) Rev 6:15; 16:14; 17:2; 17:18; 18:3; 18:9; 19:19; 21:24 then continues to describe the war involving his faithful kings and the unfaithful kings -
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    These scriptures give the essence of the end battle of Armageddon: Rev 16:13-16 – “And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. 15 “Behold, I am coming as a thief. Blessed is he who watches, and keeps his garments, lest he walk naked and they see his shame.” 16 And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon.” You’ve always said, the Bible was written for the anointed. Well, that includes the battle of Armageddon, but I say it is written about the anointed, and those with them who must heed the meaning of Revelation in the last days. (Rev 18:4-8) What comes out of the mouth of false prophets, but lies? The two Beasts of Revelation work together; the false prophet directs the Beast from the Sea, that rises up from the wicked. (Isa 17:12-14; 57:20,21) Under the direction of governing leaders, this Beast “makes war with the saints.” (Rev 13:1,2,4-7,11,12,15) The war includes JWs with them, those of the “whole world”. It is based on one’s decision to listen to truth, or to listen to lies coming from the mouths of these “kings”. Yes, knowing that Satan has a short period of time left, (Rev 12:12) he will devise a military diversion tactic from the most important war at hand – the spiritual war. (1 Pet 5:8; 2 Cor 10:4; Eph 6:11; 1 John 4:4) We see what the governing leadership has always concentrated on – the world’s politics, military conflict and a literal “king of the north”. They put the blame continually on Christendom’s sins. That takes the heat off of what “trampling” is happening to God’s saints in the organization. (Dan 11:31-45) This lying tactic has been very successful. God’s holy people are under a “spell” – but it is their choice, their decision to remain with it. (1 Tim 4:1) Only by God reading our hearts and bestowing His grace to see us safely out, can one survive. (Isa 42:16; Rev 16:12; Rom 8:19) Our hearts are sealed by our decision to search for justice and truth, or to love the lie. (2 Thess 2:9-12) Only a remnant of the anointed will be found to escape this trap – only a remnant of JWs who leaves Satan’s darkness, turn to Christ. That has always been the case with God’s people when they have transgressed His decrees. (Rom 9:27-29; Rev 11:1-3,7-10) You’ve entered the “valley of decision” and have decided to reject lies. You have cut yourself off from false teachers and are looking for truth to be spoken through faithful anointed. You have “come out of her” (Rev 18:4) where spiritual harlots sit on “many waters”, which are poisoned teachings and those who drink them up. (Rev 8;10,11; 17:15) Their defense is to call the faithful, the apostates. D. Splane’s latest talk to be available on the website this coming week, is about apostate “teachers” with “poisoned teachings”. The GB, who obviously endorse lies, are fighting back with the faithful anointed ones very words used against them. Can you see how this is war against “kings” and what comes out of their mouths? God is not the destroyer. He can pass the decree that destruction is to take place, and He can also limit destruction as we see in the example of Job. We also see that it was Satan who came against Job; and it will be Satan in his rage, who destroys the “earth”, until God says enough is enough. (Dan 7:26-28) Satan is raging against the anointed in Christ, NOW. I can’t even describe the extent, the destruction that Satan has caused in my physical life since leaving the organization. Presently, I am evacuated from my home because of fires that are being held up as lack of diligence on the forest service’s part. They will face litigation. But the house still stands despite all incredible odds. God knows just how much we can tolerate, as in Job’s case. The primary war at hand is Satan’s lust to destroy the “woman’s seed”; both those faithful and those in his trap such as you were in, where he has “surrounded” them. Rev 20:7-9 A literal war in Satan’s world could last for years and years and never give “birth” to Kingdom. (Job 14:4) What does bring the Kingdom, is the fulfillment of the New Covenant promise in the faithful, cleansed, anointed remnant and the completion of the Temple of God in Christ. (Zech 4:6,7; Mal 3:1-5) Do JWs realize this? No, they believe their organization will survive a physical onslaught and be present in the Kingdom of God, its buildings included. Their view is totally physical. Notice in 1 Cor 6:6-10 who the "rulers" were that could not perceive the spiritual wisdom of God, and who killed Jesus Christ. Today's "rulers" "kill"/disfellowship the faithful anointed in Christ - men who have no spiritual wisdom. JWs believe they are “safe” without even noticing the trampling of God’s priesthood under the covenant “woman” which is being attacked. (1 Thess 5:3; Rev 12:1-5) God removes His spiritual protection from those who refuse to turn back to Him, and Satan is allowed to step in. This is how the nation of Israel suffered when sinning and committing idolatry. We also have evidence of who did the destroying, brought the plagues, and killed the firstborn in Egypt. “He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them.” Ps 78:49 “For the Lord will pass through to smite the Egyptians; and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side posts, the Lord will pass over the door, and will not suffer (meaning “grant”) the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.” Exod 12:23 The Kingdom will not arrive until the “harvest” of the sons of God is complete – the harvest of those in Christ who are faithful, and the harvest of the weeds that face condemnation by God’s Word. (Matt 13:24-39) Any person who has lived, and anyone on the earth right now, both the good and the bad, will be judged by the Father in righteousness. That, we leave up to God. What’s important for JWs, is their decision to either continue to listen to the lies that their leaders tell them, or to search out truth that Christ is providing – outside of the apostate city. (John 16:2; Heb 13:13; Rev 13:15) That truth, is the understanding of Revelation – the “wedding banquet of the Lamb”. (Matt 22:1-14; 25:1-13) We know that the temple in the anointed has been “given over to the Gentiles”/elders. Yet, the GB somehow say the “temple” of 2 Thess 2:3,4 being trampled, is some sort of literal holy place…where, the UN and Christendom is involved? It specifically states in 2 Thess 2:3,4, that it is God’s temple being dominated/trampled. On the other hand, they tell every JW that they ARE NOW the spiritual temple. This is confusion from conniving false teachers, that I believe are preparing to produce “new light” about 2 Thess 2:3,4. If all JWs are taught now as God’s Temple, how easily they can then point to a physical nation coming against JWs, as the “man of lawlessness”. Blasphemy. As far as the earth being ruined? It can be applied in a few ways: The first “earth” being ruined is God’s land/His dwelling in the hearts of the anointed, by the man of lawlessness who has trampled down His dwelling place/temple in the anointed. 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3 Revelation speaks of the great locust scorpion army/elder body that afflicts God’s unsealed anointed. Notice what it says, “They were told not to harm the grass of the earth or any plant or tree, but only those people who did not have the seal of God on their foreheads.” These elements of the earth can refer to people, to JWs. Every person in the organization who stands against the elder army are afflicted. (Rev 9:1-6) Yet any destruction of the literal earth by the destroyer, will be restored to life. What is the primary destruction that Christ will cause? He will destroy death. (1 Cor 15:26; Rev 20:10,14,15). When Christ returns, the man of lawlessness is destroyed by the “breath of his mouth”, the Word of God, which is like “fire”. ( 2 Thess 2:8; Jer 23:29; Rev 20:10,14,15) God’s Word is the judge. He can surrender us to perish under the covenant of death; or we are protected under the covenant of “life” in Jesus Christ, even if we lose our physical life. (John 1:4; 10:10; 6:58) “Woe to you, destroyer, you who have not been destroyed! Woe to you, betrayer, you who have not been betrayed! When you stop destroying, you will be destroyed; when you stop betraying, you will be betrayed.” Isa 33:1
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  22. Rev 20:7-10 "Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea. They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city. And fire came down from heaven and devoured them. The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." From this we see that the end of the "Thousand Years" does not bring God's Kingdom immediately. It brings the Great Tribulation and Armageddon, because this is when Satan is released to mislead. His demonic inspired lying doctrines, "gather them together to the battle/war" (Rev 20:8) This is the same Battle and war as Rev 16:13,14,16 "And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs coming out of the mouth of the dragon, out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. For they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the earth, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. And they gathered them together to the place called in Hebrew, Armageddon." By a comparison of Rev 20:8 and Rev 16:14, we learn that the "spirits/exhalations of demons" are misleading demon-inspired utterances (1 Tim 4:1), whose lying doctrines, when spread throughout the earth, are gathering opposing forces into the battle of Armageddon. So between the end of the Thousand Years (during which the anointed previously enjoyed protection from Satanic deception, while he was "abyssed" – Luke 10:19; Rev 20:1-3; 1 Pet 1:5) and the arrival of God's kingdom, there is Satan's short period of time (Rev 12:12; 20:3 -end of verse). Initially, all God's chosen priests are overcome by Satan's lying doctrines and his agents of deception (Rev 13:11,15,7; 11:2; Dan 8:10-12,24,25;11:31,36,37; 2 Thess 2:4; Dan 12:7). Jesus takes action for the sake of the chosen (Matt 24:22; Dan 12:1; Ps 69:14,15; 144:7; 18:19; John 14:18), and just as the illustration of the "ten virgins" shows (Matt 25:1-13), some choose to sustain their need for light with the spiritual commerce of the Beast (Matt 25:9; Rev 13:17), while some wise virgins rather choose to enter the marriage feast with Christ (Matt 25:10; John 10:9; Rev 3:20). These wise virgins choose to go out to meet the bridegroom (Matt 25:6; Heb 13:13) with lamps lighted with oil from their "receptacle" (1 John 2:24,27). For the five wise virgins, a wedding feast is served (Luke 12:37; John 15:15; 16:15). The result? During that time, truth will also become available (Dan 12:3,4), through the lamps of the wise virgins who are being fed by Christ (to counteract the demonic deceptions) (Matt 5:16,14,15). These virgins, will sacrifice their life to be messenger angels of truth (Rev 6:9,11; Ps 15:1,4; Rev 22:17; 8:2,6; 1 Cor 14:8; Isa 58:1; Jer 6:17; Ezek 3:17; 33:3; Micah 3:8,12) in the battle of Armageddon (Rev 12:7,11; 17:14; 2:12,16; Isa 49:2; Rev 19:15,11; 2 Thess 2:8; Rev 19:14,8). By means of their witnessing (Rev 19:10; 22:16; 14:4,5; 20:4; 2 Cor 10:3-5; 6:7), the judicial basis is established for the Kingdom of God to arrive (Rev 12:10,11). Satan's target upon his release, are these last of the holy ones (Rev 12:17; 20:9) Satan resists their witnessing to truth, by means of his demonic lies (Rev 12:15; 16:13-16; 19:19,20; 18:23,24; 2 Thess 2:9,10). This spiritual battle between the agent messengers of Christ's truth, and the agent messengers of Satanic lies, is the essence of Armageddon (Rev 12:7; 17:14; 19:11,14; Heb 12:22,23; Luke 10:20). During the war between truth and lies, Christ and Satan, and the armies of messengers of each side; a sifting will occur, which will polarize the faith of individual Chosen ones, and cause them to decide to belong to one side, or the other (Joel 3:14; Isa 43:8,9; Dan 7:22; Matt 25:9,10; 1 Cor 11:18,19; Mal 3:18; Matt 7:20) This spiritual warfare facilitates the completing.. ("and the door was shut" – Luke 13:25; 17:26; Gen 7:16; Rev 3:7; Matt 13:11; 2 Thess 1:8,9) of the "harvests", as spoken of in Revelation chapter 14. (Rev 14:14-20) The wheat and weeds have been growing to maturity, and have been identified and separated, all throughout this world (Gen 3:15; 1 John 3:10-12,14). But this harvesting culminates with the final remnant of chosen ones, during Satan's freedom to mislead (2 Thess 2:9,12,10; Rev 2:4). When the last invited heirs are judged (based upon what they are teaching -Matt 12:36,37), this finishes the "harvest of the earth" (Rev 14:14-16), which is the "dried out" harvest of anointed wheat (not the "vine of the earth" Rev 14:18; Deut 32:32,33; Joel 3:13,14; Jer 23:14; Rev 11:8 which are the teachings and followers of the poisonous vine -Rev 8:10,11). Pearl Doxsey – Armageddon/Timetable of Kingdoms -
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  23. Exactly. I just had a few more thoughts At the anointing of God's priests, they become the “dwelling” of God’s Spirit: 1 Cor 3:16 - Don’t you know that you yourselves are God’s temple and that God’s Spirit dwells in your midst? That sounds similar to your scripture in Luke17:21, doesn’t it? “nor will people say, ‘Here it is,’ or ‘There it is,’ because the kingdom of God is in your midst.”[a] [a] – “is within you” Jesus was talking not only to those disciples who would enter into the covenant with him, but this message was for the future, for the arrival of the Kingdom. Because the anointed are part of the Temple, (1 Pet 2:5,9) under the New Covenant, New Jerusalem (Gal 4:26) – the Kingdom/dwelling of God is within their hearts. KJV 1 Cor 3:16 –“ Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? So, what do we see God’s holy people looking for, while in the Wt? They are looking for literal signs of the birth of the Kingdom. But, Jesus is specifically saying the coming of the kingdom “is not something that can be observed”. THEY, God’s saints, are the kingdom, as Jesus is, but they are falling for lies. Only if they remove themselves from this trap of “empty philosophy”, will God’s spirit continue to dwell in their hearts.(Luke 21:20; Matt 24:3,24,25,4,5,9-11,13,21; Dan 12:1,4; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10; 16:13-16; 20:7-9) They must wake up and submit fully to Jesus Christ, in repentance, (Mal 3:1-4) and get out from under the rule of a wicked slave and “uncircumcised” “Gentiles”. (Isa 52:1; Dan 8:11,12,17; Matt 24:15,16,48-51; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:5-7; 3:16;18:4-8; 1 Pet 2:6; Rev 3:17,18) The battle of Armageddon takes place within each one of us, not on the playground of Satan. It involves our choice of either truth or lies. (John 8:44; 2 Cor 4:4; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:13-16) (Isa 43:8,9; Dan 7:22; Matt 25:9,10; 1 Cor 11:18,19; Mal 3:18; Matt 7:20)
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    So you see, people are saying, and have been saying for quite awhile, that the kingdom is within the hearts of the anointed priests of God. Luke 17:21
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  24. All faithful, obedient believers in Christ who desire to know truth are led by the Holy Spirit, and most definitely Jesus had God’s Spirit guiding him since his birth. But, the pouring out and being filled with Holy Spirit is the opening up of wisdom/truth/knowledge (God’s word) from heaven. (1 John 2:27 ) Being “filled” with spirit is an anointing. I believe it was at that time (Luke 3:21,22) that Jesus then knew the extent of the path he had to take while on the earth. As you say, the next chapter in Luke continues after his baptism by saying, “Jesus, full of the Holy Spirit, left the Jordan and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness, 2 where for forty days he was tempted by the devil. He ate nothing during those days, and at the end of them he was hungry. After that time of testing… “Jesus *returned to Galilee in the power of the Spirit, and news about him spread through the whole countryside. 15 He was teaching in their synagogues, and everyone praised him.” He went to Nazareth, where he had been brought up, and on the Sabbath day he went into the synagogue, as was his custom. He stood up to read, 17 and the scroll of the prophet Isaiah was handed to him. Unrolling it, he found the place where it is written: 18 “The Spirit of the Lord is on me, because he has anointed me to proclaim good news to the poor. He has sent me to proclaim freedom for the prisoners and recovery of sight for the blind, to set the oppressed free, 19 to proclaim the year of the Lord’s favor.” Luke 4 (Isa 61:1) Ps 45:7 - You love righteousness and hate wickedness; therefore God, your God, has set you above your companions by anointing you with the oil of joy. Acts 10:37,38 - “You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all. 37 You know what has happened throughout the province of Judea, *beginning in Galilee after the baptism that John preached— 38 how God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Spirit and power, and how he went around doing good and healing all who were under the power of the devil, because God was with him.” His “anointing” at his water baptism, was a fulfilment of prophesy. The literal anointing of oil in the early days of the nation’s kings, signified that that person was chosen to reign as king. (1 Sam 9:16; 15:1; 2 Sam 12:7; 1 Kings 19:15…) Also the priesthood was anointed as signifying that God had chosen those under the lineage of Aaron to be a priest. (Num 25:10-13; 3:10; Lev 10:8-11; Mal 2:7) That lineage has continued spiritually through all the anointed priests/kings since Christ. (Exod 29:1,7; 2 Cor 1:21,22; Rev 5:9,10) Jesus, is both our High Priest and our King. (Heb 4:14,15; John 1:49; Rev 17:14)
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