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  1. "In view of this strong Bible evidence, concerning the Times of the Gentiles, we consider it an established truth that the final end of the kingdoms of this world, and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God, will be accomplished by the end of A.D. 1914" Studies in the Scriptures - The time is at Hand. p. 99 I can hear Russell's followers bringing this message to the doors. "This is established truth! God's Kingdom will arrive in 1914!" "...Make yourself an example of good works with integrity and dignity in your teaching. 8 Your message is to be sound beyond reproach, so that any opponent will be ashamed, because he doesn’t have anything bad to say about us." Titus 2:6b-8 "Established truth" - the established foundation of the teachings of the Watchtower organization. "But the prophet who presumes to speak a message in My name that I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods—that prophet must die.’ 21 You may say to yourself, ‘How can we recognize a message the Lord has not spoken?’ 22 When a prophet speaks in the Lord’s name, and the message does not come true or is not fulfilled, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him." Deut 18 Russell and those leaders after him, were "presumptuous" in proclaiming their many failed prophecies, establishing their own words as TRUTH. There is only one established Truth, that is from Jesus Christ. Therefore, Russell is stating his truth was issued from Christ, from the Almighty Father. He established God's timeline that failed. He created a foundation for a religion on shifting sand; always moving, always eroding, always needing repair work. And when that happens, the foundation finally fails, bringing the whole organization with it. “Therefore, everyone who hears these words of mine and acts on them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 The rain fell, the rivers rose, and the winds blew and pounded that house. Yet it didn’t collapse, because its foundation was on the rock. 26 But everyone who hears these words of mine and doesn’t act on them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 The rain fell, the rivers rose, the winds blew and pounded that house, and it collapsed. It collapsed with a great crash.” Matt 7:24-27
  3. So, what does all of this do for us? Are we to appreciate the writer of these poems who also wrote of "THE CORROBORATIVE TESTIMONY OF GOD'S STONE WITNESS AND PROPHET THE GREAT PYRAMID IN EGYPT" in Study 10 of the "Studies in the Scriptures"?
  4. What? Where did you pull that illusion from?
  5. No one said that each woman is a covenant. “These things are being taken figuratively: The women represent two covenants.” Sarah represent Jerusalem Above, the new covenant/promise of life. Those under this covenant are “children of the promise” – Abraham’s seed. Gal 4:26; Rom 9:8 This “woman” is giving birth in Revelation 12:2, cared for in the wilderness in Rev 12:6,14 All those faithful anointed under her, the new covenant, experience what the covenant experiences as a whole. The attack by the dragon, persecution, “birth pangs” (Matt 24:8) and subsequent protection and care “in the wilderness”. This is God’s covenant with “daughter Jerusalem”, “Virgin Israel”– the Bride of Christ. Jer 31:4 Once this covenant is fulfilled, more “children” are “born” from the union of the father of these future children – Jesus Christ (Isa 9:6) and their “mother”, the Bride. (Isa 66:7-13) Babylon the Great is signified by a woman as well. Her “harlot daughters” wear her identifying mark. “The woman was dressed in purple and scarlet, and was glittering with gold, precious stones and pearls. She held a golden cup in her hand, filled with abominable things and the filth of her adulteries. 5 The name written on her forehead was a mystery: BABYLON THE GREAT THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH. Rev 17:4-5 Any who enter this covenant, will receive not the promise of eternal life from Jerusalem above, but the promise of death. Isa 28:14-19 If lies are the refuge of God’s fallen anointed ones, false teachers/false prophets that have “deceived the elect” in the last days (Matt 24:24,25) they have entered this covenant. Their father is the father of the lie, Satan; and their “mother” is Babylon the Great.
  6. Did it ever occur to you than an individual who has suffered from CSA can help another person with CSA, on a personal level? It's not always necessary to join an organization to get something done. Presently, I have five friends who have come out of the Wt, and have suffered from CSA either as a result of being a JW or victimized as a child in other circumstances. That makes six of us who support one another without blowing our own horn. You've made an opinion about myself and Srecko, without considering all aspects of "support". Matt 6:3 What I believe is "truth" concerning the fulfillment of the end, is far different than what you believe. I know that the signs of tribulation and Armageddon pertain to God's holy anointed people. Whatever Satan devises in the world of politics and religion is a diversion of the spiritual reality. Luke 17:30-21
  7. Did you notice that those who are listening to Jezebel become adulterers as well? They are sharing in her sins just as Revelation 18:4-8 gives warning of. You can't repent of spiritual immorality, unless you escape/flee from the spiritual harlot. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Proverbs 2&version=NKJV
  8. On a "daily basis" I am concerned about the people in the Wt. Thank you for your warning, but I'll be okay with whatever you're talking about. But your opinion is, among many opinions expressed on the days that you are here, is that I can do better. I think we can all do better, even you SM. As long as I keep listening to Christ, I hope to do better. 🙂
  9. I never said it was. It is a covenant of death, which I told you is described in Isa 28:14-19. When we leave the covenant of life in Christ and accept "false prophets, false christs" to teach us, haven't we left the promise of eternal life in Christ. We have become apostate to God's teachings when we enter a new covenant. The covenant of death, which is symbolized in the symbolic book of Revelation is "Babylon", the opposite of the covenant of life.
  10. I'm sorry you couldn't put two and two together! And I have no clue who Betsy is. I knew you would shred the topic to pieces. Do you know who Paul Gillies is? You might want to chew on the link if you haven't already seen it. I refuse to go any further about what you're trying to accuse me of. If I post a video here, it doesn't mean that I am best buddies with the person who made it. I post the video because of information within it that I feel could be useful for someone else to hear. un-correspondence-bates-gilles.pdf
  11. The baptism questions INCLUDE one’s dedication to the organizational idol. Read them again and compare them with Christ’s words in Matthew chapter 28:19-20 Where are the scriptures that tell us that Jesus said never to leave the organization - an organization not spoken of in the scriptures to begin with? WAITING? He was actively pronouncing the sins of his people, and was killed for preaching the need for refinement, rejected as the coming Messiah. Again, his message was the need for repentance, not to remain under the rule of the Pharisees, which is contrary to what YOU are promoting. (Luke 13:1-5; Matt 10:33) He wasn’t waiting for the Pharisees to tell HIM what to do; he was fulfilling prophecy about himself, and preparing the disciples to lead others into truth after he died and was resurrected. Those today who listen to his words and follow in his footsteps, are “killed”/disfellowshipped by the organization for preaching the same truth - his teachings, not doctrine of men. (Rev 13:15) His disciples entered a new covenant, no longer under the old law covenant, the old “organizational arrangement”. Are you saying that JWs who are disfellowshipped must return to the “old” teachings, the old wine made with rotten fruit of failed teachings? (Matt 7:15-20) Or, are they to put on a new wine skin and fill it with the new wine of God’s word in Christ, thus preserving their lives? (Matt 9:17) We don’t return to vomit. (Isa 28:7-10) Obviously, the apostles never bowed down to the power of the Pharisees either. (Acts 5:29) And they were told to take care of Christ's sheep. John 21:17 And you are not making the claim that you are part of the "bride". In the parable of the virgins of "Israel", the foolish ones were not prepared for the coming of Christ. They went to those who “sell” oil/provisions. The wise responded with their lamps in order, when they heard the call. While the foolish virgins were busy buying spiritual food from those other than Jesus Christ, the wise WENT OUT to meet the bridegroom, prepared to enter the marriage feast, and the door was then shut. The others were too late to enter. (Matt 7:21-23) The anointed who remain inside the organization cannot join with the bridegroom, unless they go out to meet him, and are “killed”/disfellowshipped by the Beast/organization for their testimony to Christ. (Matt 25:1-13;Rev 11:1-3,7) The false prophet of Rev. 13:11,12, demands that no one can “buy or sell” spiritual provisions unless they have the “mark”/the name of the idol they worship – “Jehovah’s organization”. JWs “buy” their spiritual provisions from the leadership/false prophets in exchange for their servitude - not to God, who doesn’t live in “temples made with hands” - but for their servitude to the organizational idol. Rev 13:14-17; Acts 17:24-25,29) You expect the anointed and all JWs to show submission to men, and not listen to the call of their Master. Rev 18:4 I've been on this forum since at least 2015-16. I have always pleaded with people to get out of the organization and save their souls. You have little to say about Revelation 18:4-8. In fact, you totally ignore it; Why? Because the call is exactly the opposite of what you say Christ is telling people - to stay where they are. So what should people believe, God's word, or your words that have no backing in scripture? You dismiss scriptures that do not fit your agenda, especially about the priesthood. No matter what is presented in front of you using God's word, you preach the opposite. You fill the page with empty words, empty sentiments lacking all sincere compassion for JW's. God's word is like fire.(Jer 23:29) It can refine the heart of the person if he or she submits to His word (Luke 3:16; Mal 3:3; Rev 3:18); or it can condemn them. (Hos 6:5; Lule 3:17; 2 Thess 1:8) Condemnation comes when God's word is ignored, and that word presently is in Revelation 18:4-8; 14:6-12. Jesus is calling people out of the organization, out of the apostate city of "Babylon". When a house is on fire, you do your best to pull people out of it, whose lives are in danger. You don't wait and see who will live and who will die. But that's what you want! You are on the outside, telling people to remain inside. How convenient for you! Do you know that that's exactly what Robert King tells people? You want people to stay where they are, and continue to listen to lies. You too, are in "Babylon". Have mercy on those who waver; 23 save others by snatching them from the fire; have mercy on others but with fear, hating even the garment defiled by the flesh. Jude 1:20-12 For an individual to stand on the outside, like yourself, and watch a house burn by the fire of God's word, knowing that there are people inside, shows that the person's conscience is seared. (1 Tim 4:1,2) You expect them to show submission to men of your "fortress", while the fortress is under attack because of the men in charge? Amos 5 tells us to seek God and pursue righteousness; not remain passive, quiet and fearful of men who lord it over the oppressed. Otherwise, we go down with the fortress that men have built. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Amos+5&version=ESV
  12. That's exactly what the Watchtower is, merely an institution just like all the others. You have just proven that God has not put His name on the Watchtower organization. His Spirit is not in this organization, an institution just like all the others. By the way, the Watchtower has been consistent in hiding child abuse cases for many years.
  13. The “holier than thou” is found right here: "So it is, by observing the conduct of Jehovah’s witnesses, people see that here is a good, upright and godly organization. They also see that here is a clean and virtuous organization whose members have 'put off the works belonging to darkness,' who are not walking “in revelries and drunken bouts, not in illicit intercourse and loose conduct, not in strife and jealousy,” and who are not “planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.'" w60 8/15 p. 505-506 “Rather, it is an assurance to you that you are associated with a clean organization, one that God will bless.” w62 10/15 p. 631-632 “Jehovah and His Organization, Holy and Clean” w83 5/1 p. 24 “After we have been brought into the protective and loving care of God’s clean organization, we have the responsibility to help maintain it.” w17 October pp. 21-25 Hypocrites.
  14. Like where? SM, I was talking about the person who wrote the letter I posted. These leaders have hidden child abuse records for years. They are deceiving hypocrites, and hypocrites hide their devious works from those they are deceiving. I declare, sometimes you're so smart, you're naive. But that's okay, you have an agenda and it's your agenda. I have mine as well. 🙂
  15. I don't have a flock, Jesus does.🙂 Sometimes the most obvious just evades you, dear SM. About the UN, the person came up with that information independently. The United Nations and the Watchtower organization are supposed to be enemies of one another. It is taught as the "Beast" of Rev 13:1-2. Year after year, the UN becomes the enemy, the disgusting beast in a JW's mind. It become so cemented in one's mind that there is no question that the organization would have nothing to do with the Beast! Any independent connection by a JW to the UN, is frowned upon. So, for the Wt to associate with the UN's "department of global communications", it can be interpreted as an appalling act to a JW, who never knew this before. To fully indoctrinated JWs, this is getting in bed with the Beast. No matter how light you make of it, it is a Big Deal to many JWs. It is an act of hypocrisy against their own teachings. Please don't beat the topic to death.
  16. This is another letter written by a disciple of Christ, and sent to the congregation upon leaving the Watchtower. To whom it may concern, Over the past year or so, it started becoming apparent to me that the Jehovah's Witness organisation does not have God's spirit or His true blessing, so I started reading the Bible, meditating on the scriptures, and praying to our loving Creator for wisdom and for His Holy Spirit. It didn’t take me long to realise that I was part of a false religion, and that we are being told to in fact, flee from Babylon the Great ourselves. Revelation 18:4 – “Then I heard another voice form heaven say: “Come out of her, my people,’ So that you will not share in her sins So that you will not receive any of her plagues.” This is actually telling US, God’s people, to flee! Will we heed this urgent warning? (See Luke 21:11,20&21,Rev 11:12, Amos 1:1) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A11%2C20-21%3BRev+11%3A12%3B+Amos+1%3A1&version=CSB Although I was starting to question a few inconsistencies, such as the organization joining the UN, the inaccuracy of the NWT, the lack of urgency being portrayed in talks, even though we are living in the last days, the repetitive themes of the meetings; it was actually Geoffrey Jackson’s testimony at the Australian Royal Commission that shocked me most of all! That he was so evasive, did not use his Bible, was completely unsympathetic towards the victims of these horrendous claims, lied under oath by denying that the organization is the spokesperson between them and God, as well as lying about other doctrines that Witnesses are taught, shocked me to the core! The two witness rule is neither scriptural under circumstances of abuse, nor does it make any sense at all. When would there ever be witnesses in cases of child abuse? The very idea is ludicrous, yet all of you are happy to go along with it, as I don’t see any of you speaking out or disagreeing. Instead, all of you skirt around the issue, making pathetic excuses for why this rule continues to be enforced! One thing I have realized is that witnesses are quite content to make excuses for everything as no one wants to rock the boat, in case attention is drawn to them, and they might be viewed as “having doubts” or “thinking critically” and this is definitely not allowed under any circumstances whatsoever. Be obedient to the organization, regardless of whether it makes practical sense at the time or not! To me, it appears that you are being obedient to men, the governing body, etc., and not to God and Jesus. John 14:23 - Jesus answered him, “If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, And my Father will love him, and we will come to him and make our home with him.” Romans 6:16 – “Do you not know that if you present yourselves to anyone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey, either of sin, which leads to death, or of obedience, which leads to righteousness?” John 14:21 – “Whoever accepts my commandments and obeys them is the one who loves me. My Father will love whoever loves me; I too will love him and reveal myself to him.” After much prayer to our Father, and after shedding a lot of tears, it became obvious to me that for 30 years, I had in fact been following a false religion, and that to gain God’s blessing as well as that of Christ Jesus, I had to “get out of her”. This has not been an easy time for me, as I’m sure you can well imagine. I know without a doubt that I am making the right decision, as I have felt the Father’s gentle guidance and my fervent prayers for His wisdom and direction have been answered over and over during the last year or so. I have never, ever been so spiritually well fed before! The absolute abundance of spiritual food that I have had access to recently is really quite unbelievable. “Seek and you will find. Knock and the door will be opened to you.” As harsh as this may appear to be, I have come to realise that the adulterous governing body is in fact the wicked steward, and the elder body is the man of lawlessness who has set himself up over God’s temple priesthood. The armies that surround Jerusalem in the time of the end, are the locust scorpions depicted in Revelation 9:3 & 7, thus we know that its desolation is near. “And out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth and were given power like that of scorpions of the earth.” “The appearance of the locusts was like horses prepared for battle. Something like golden crowns was on their heads; their faces were like human faces” Mark 13:14 says, “When you see the disgusting thing standing where it does not belong – let the reader understand – then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.” Mark 13:20 – “If the Lord had not cut short those days no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them.” The Wild Beast/locust-scorpions/disgusting thing/man of lawlessness takes over the priesthood of God’s temple, and is willing to “kill” them, because the adulterous leaders that rule is the bestower of authority, power, and crowns. We have been told repeatedly that the scriptures must prevail in all matters of judgement, and yet I have come to realise that this is definitely not the case. The governing body and the elders (Man of Lawlessness) do not use the scriptures, but are only interested in whether you are in subjection to them, and are willing to obey/worship the organization or not. This is idolatry, as it forces one to be obedient to, or to worship the organisation, when we are told adamantly by God that we are only to worship Him and Him alone. (Exodus 20:3; Matthew 4:10) It is clear from the baptism vows however, especially the latest questions from 2019, that one gets baptized into the organization. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus+20%3A3%3B+Matthew+4%3A10&version=CSB “Do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with God’s spirit-directed organization?” (1985)…has been changed to “Do you understand that your baptism identifies you as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses in association with Jehovah’s organization?” (2019) I fail to understand the necessity of changing these vows, as I was always under the impression that one was baptized in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, and not into an organization led by man. You cannot slave for two masters, or eat from two tables. It is clear that this is where one’s discernment comes in. The question is whether I will worship the only true God, and in turn His Son, Christ Jesus; or the organization and a body of men? I have made my decision, and I choose to follow God and Jesus, thus making sure that I am not guilty of any form of idolatry. There is so much more that I could say but I will leave it at that. I love my wonderful, loving and gracious Creator, our Almighty God with all my heart, and I love our King and Saviour Jesus Christ just as much. I will never stop worshipping them with my whole mind, my whole body, and my whole soul. I am not lost, but I have been found! Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth and the Life, and through him we find salvation on the narrow road that leads to everlasting life, true peace and happiness. It is my fervent wish that everyone comes to an accurate knowledge of the Bible and the amazing truth that it contains. The blessings we will receive are far greater than we could ever imagine. In conclusion, I am writing this letter to let you know that I no longer want to be part of the Jehovah’s Witness Organisation. I would like to make it clear that this is my final decision. I accept the actions that will be taken. Thank you for your time. Kindest regards, Xxxxxx Should Elders Replace God's Appointed Priests?
  17. Instead of always assuming that you know you are right...do you ever search the scriptures for its deep meaning?..look up the meaning of "messenger" in Luke 7:27 on blueletterbible.org Tossing out your words without scriptural backup, absolutely means nothing. You seem to believe that you, and most JWs, have the mental capacity to rein in the Father and the Son; and that they do not hear the prayers of anyone on the outside of the organization. There are many sincere hearts, good people who live by the “golden rule”, loving their neighbor and doing acts of kindness toward them. Does God ignore them because they are not part of your organization? JWs believe that only those in the organization will be “saved” during their bloody Armageddon. They believe Jesus Christ will be the Destroyer to accomplish this massacre. Jesus, who is the Way, the Truth, and the Life – IS NOT THE DESTROYER. (John 14:6; 10:10) 2 Chron 16:9b - For the eyes of the LORD range throughout the earth to strengthen those whose hearts are fully committed to Him. If the organization takes priority in one’s life, not one JW can be fully committed to God. Those who have left the sins of the Wt. behind, and who have begged for understanding of the teachings of Christ, and who have repented before God for believing in false teachings spoken by false teachers, have been blessed with scriptural knowledge well beyond the ridiculous teachings of the GB – beyond what the incapable men who cannot even understand the book of Joel, are able to accomplish. They are “hidden rocky reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you, shepherds who without fear feed themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots; 13 wild waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, for whom the blackness of darkness has been reserved forever.” Jude 1 The coming of the “two witnesses” (symbolically meaning a witness of “truth”), who prophesy in sackcloth because of the trampling down of God’s holy Temple/saints/”living stones” by “Gentiles”/elder body, are no longer within the organization, but have been “killed” for their testimony of Christ. (Joel 1:13; Rev 11:7; 6:9-11) These servants of Christ have approached their “brothers” of “Israel”, approaching these fallen stars (Heb 12:15; Rev 8:10-11), with their own false teachings committed before their Head Jesus Christ. Do they listen? No. Does the elder body/muscle men, drunk on the “harlot’s wine”, listen? (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 9:1-4) Most do not. Those who ‘get it’, LEAVE the falsehoods behind, acting on their good conscience. The GB has allowed God’s Temple to be trampled down. They have encouraged the elder body to exalt itself over the chosen priesthood. (Dan 11:31-33; Matt 24:15-16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3) This army has tremendous power over the anointed, to the point that many have been fearful to partake over the years; preferring to partake of the emblems at home. When men not anointed prevent one called by God from partaking as Christ commanded them, and accusing the person of lying about their anointing, assuming they are mentally unsound, this is a trampling down of God’s holy people – His “beautiful/glorious land”. (Joel 1:5-13; 2:1-9; Dan 11:45; Rev 9:1-4,7-11;11:1,2) They are oppressed and submissive to the lies that are said about them. And you want them to remain under this blasphemous power over them. YOU cannot predict WHEN your false teaching that the organization will be cleansed, is to be fulfilled. Thus, you tell everyone to sit tight, no matter what teachings they are to obey. YOU do not have the mindset of Christ, who is telling God’s people to GET OUT FROM UNDER THE RULERSHIP OF THE ARMY THAT IS OPPRESSING THEM. (Joel 1:1-7, 13-16; Rev 13:11,12,5-7; 18:4-8) “If your brother sins against you, go tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have won your brother. 16 But if he won’t listen, take one or two others with you, so that by the testimony of two or three witnesses every fact may be established. 17 If he doesn’t pay attention to them, tell the congregation. If he doesn’t pay attention even to the congregation, let him be like a Gentile and a tax collector to you. 18 Truly I tell you, whatever you bind on earth will have been bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will have been loosed in heaven.” Matt 18 19 Again, truly I tell you, if two of you on earth agree about any matter that you pray for, it will be done for you by my Father in heaven. 20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, I am there among them.” Jesus is with those who listen to him and “buy gold refined in the fire” – the purity of Truth. Rev 3:18 His “congregation” is where his word is purely believed and upheld, where no false doctrine of men is found. Jesus did not tell us to “abide” in an organization built on the WORD of men. He said, “If you abide in my word, you are truly my disciples, 32 and you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.” John 8:31-32 There is no freedom in the Watchtower. (Gal 1:10; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)
  18. You're speaking about the spiritual Temple of God. That is not the organization, or the full congregations of JWs. Eph 2:30-22. "Israel", the priesthood. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16 Where in the scriptures does Jesus say to wait inside an organization until he returns. Where is the scripture? The Greek meaning for "angel" is Messenger. It is used to describe John the Baptist. Messengers are priests bringing the understanding of the word of God to the people. Messengers/priests, are the "angels" Jesus sends in the last days to warn his people. Mal 2:7
  19. He meant hold fast to Truth! The truth given at the time of anointing. He didn't mean hold fast to an organization! "I know your works. Look, I have placed before you an open door that no one can close because you have but little power; yet you have kept my word and have not denied my name. 9 Note this: I will make those from the synagogue of Satan, who claim to be Jews and are not, but are lying—I will make them come and bow down at your feet, and they will know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept my command to endure, I will also keep you from the hour of testing that is going to come on the whole world to test those who live on the earth. 11 I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one takes your crown." Revelation 3:8-11 If there's an open door in front of you you have to go to the door to walk through it. Mat 13:30 - “Let both grow together until the harvest. At harvest time I’ll tell the reapers: Gather the weeds first and tie them in bundles to burn them, but collect the wheat in my barn.’" Matt 3:12 – “His winnowing shovel is in his hand, and he will clear his threshing floor and gather his wheat into the barn. But the chaff he will burn with fire that never goes out.” Matt 24:31 – “He will send out his angels with a loud trumpet, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the sky to the other.” Is 42:6-8 - “I am the Lord. I have called you for a righteous purpose, and I will hold you by your hand. I will watch over you, and I will appoint you to be a covenant for the people and a light to the nations, 7 in order to open blind eyes, to bring out prisoners from the dungeon, and those sitting in darkness from the prison house. 8 I am the Lord. That is my name, and I will not give my glory to another or my praise to idols.” “Once again, the kingdom of heaven is like a net that was let down into the lake and caught all kinds of fish. When it was full, the fishermen pulled it up on the shore. Then they sat down and collected the good fish in baskets, but threw the bad away. This is how it will be at the end of the age. The angels will come and separate the wicked from the righteous 50 and throw them into the blazing furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Matt 13:47-50 Anyone who tells JWs to REMAIN in slavery to men and their lies, (Gal 1:10) have no sincere compassion for sheep tossed and skinned about by an abusive leadership, who disregards victims of their own faulty, corrupt leadership; who threatens them by saying they have blood on their hands if they don’t get out in service and share their lies about 1914, “this generation”, the thousand year reign of Christ, about Christ himself, and avoid the scriptures that teach exactly where the man of lawlessness is found…anyone who encourages JWs to sit in apathy, in a false sense of peace and security, (1 Thess 5:3) has only evil intentions to keep JWs captive in bondage and blindness, and away from the full light of Christ. Your words ring hollow. Babylon the Great is the promise of death. (Isa 28:14-19) It is where false teachers/false prophets have made their haven of lies. (Rev 16:13-16) We are to escape that haven, not sit obediently to lying men, waiting for your false prophecy to come true. What does Revelation 18:4-8 tell you? Do you really want JWs to remain where the leadership's sins have piled up to heaven? Do you want them to remain inside and share in those sins? That is what you are telling them to do, which is the opposite of whatGod is telling them to do. Jer 6:13-19 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+6%3A13-19&version=CSB Rev 3: “Write to the angel of the church in Laodicea: Thus says the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the originator of God’s creation: 15 I know your works, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish that you were cold or hot. 16 So, because you are lukewarm, and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of my mouth. 17 For you say, ‘I’m rich; I have become wealthy and need nothing,’ and you don’t realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind, and naked. 18 I advise you to buy from me gold refined in the fire so that you may be rich, white clothes so that you may be dressed and your shameful nakedness not be exposed, and ointment to spread on your eyes so that you may see. 19 As many as I love, I rebuke and discipline. So be zealous and repent. 20 See! I stand at the door and knock. If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and eat with him, and he with me.” Rev 3:14-20 “Come to me, all of you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest.” Matt 11:28
  20. I am part of a loving congregation where the teachings of Christ are esteemed and obeyed. (John 12:47) These were lost sheep that called out to God for understanding, and whom Jesus led away from the thief, and into his pasture. (John 6:37; 10:7-10; Matt 22:1-10) I am not part of an organization that demands donations, which most JWs don’t realize, help pay for court costs, and the hiring of lawyers, because its leaders refuse to come to the aid of an abuse victim. I am not part of an organization that expects its members to pay for men’s visions of building compounds; a broadcasting studio built with slave labor. All money is funneled INTO your organization. What money is distributed back out to provide food and clothing for its slaves? NONE. I am not part of an organization that expects everyone to obey men who are not “inspired”, which is made obvious, not only by their own admittance, but by their extensive record of falsehoods - FAILED TEACHINGS TAUGHT ONCE AS TRUTH. I am not part of an organization that challenges and dismisses the role of God’s chosen “special possession”, to serve as active priests, and to prepare a people for the coming of Christ. (1 Pet 2:5,9; Matt 3:3) Obviously, the lies of the GB priests are not preparing a people in the Truth of Jesus Christ. If their focus is on “organization” and how it can continue to procure and survive on riches, there is no Holy Spirit backing its teachings. (Matt 6:19-21,24) Only Satan would expect loyalty to false teachings and the people who speak them. Never would God or Jesus desire His sheep to swallow down a flood of lies. (John 8:42-44; Rom 3:10-18; Rev 12:15) This is not Jesus’ organization, nor God’s. It does not have God’s Spirit dwelling within it or His sacred name on it. God’s people are being called out of this den of sin, this trap of confusing teachings, devised by Satan called “Babylon the Great”. Micah 2:1-11; Rev 18:4; Micah 2:12-13;16:12 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Micah+2%3A1-11%3B+Rev+18%3A4%3B+Micah+2%3A12-13%3B16%3A12+&version=CSB Micah 4:1-2 - In days to come the mountain where the Temple stands – (God’s “House” – Eph 2:20-22) will be the highest one of all, towering above all the hills. (Zech 4: 6-10) Many nations will come streaming to it, 2 and their people will say, “Let us go up the hill of the Lord,[a] (Mount Zion) to the Temple of Israel's God. He will teach us what He wants us to do; we will walk in the paths He has chosen. For the Lord's teaching comes from Jerusalem; from Zion He speaks to his people.” Micah 4 Do you see? He doesn’t speak to His people from or through the Watchtower, which demands the decrees of men to be obeyed. (Isa 2:22) He speaks to His people through those whom He has chosen to serve Him as priests of His Temple – a cleansed priesthood who once again strive to serve the Lord in Truth – His truth, not man’s truth. (Mal 2:7; 3:1-6; Isa 43:10; John 13:20; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Heb 13:15) As JWs here have made the true claim that God’s word is consistent, we can use this consistency to explain who is receiving the message in Rev 18:4 today. It was God’s people under covenant who were told to flee ancient Babylon; it is God’s chosen people today who must flee “Babylon the Great”. All of God’s chosen priests of “Israel” must FLEE Babylon, with all JWs as well. (Jer 51:6-10; Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14) 2 Thess 2:9-12 - "The man of lawlessness (organization built on the “Gentile” elder body) will come with the power of Satan. He will use every kind of power, including miraculous and wonderful signs. But they will be lies. 10 He will use everything that God disapproves of to deceive those who are dying, those who refused to love the truth that would save them. 11 That’s why God will send them a powerful delusion so that they will believe a lie. 12 Then everyone who did not believe the truth, but was delighted with what God disapproves of, will be condemned." Why does God send them this delusion? God allows what Satan presented before Him – to test each one as “wheat”, just as He allowed Job to be tested. (Job 1:12) The warning signs are there, and if we are humble enough to accept the warning that we’ve strayed from the teachings of Christ, we are humble enough to turn back to God in repentance and refinement. Luke 22:31-32 - "Simon, Simon, look out. Satan has asked to sift you like wheat. But I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And you, when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers." James 1:3 – “because you know that the testing of your faith produces endurance.” Luke 21:24; Col 2:8; Rev 11:1-2; 13:1,2,10,15; 11:7-8,11-13;15:2 - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A24%3B+Col+2%3A8%3B+Rev+11%3A1-2%3B+13%3A1%2C2%2C10%2C15%3B+11%3A7-8%2C11-13%3B15%3A2&version=NKJV
  21. Over a hundred years ago, anointed men decided to start a religion. (Gen 11:2-4; Zech 5:10-11,4; Exod 20:39) Their lustful, carnal desires led them astray, breaking their covenant with the chief cornerstone of God’s Spiritual Temple. (Luke 22:31; 1 Pet 5:8; Luke 4:5-7; 1 Tim 1:19; Isa 59:2; Isa 24:5; 1 Cor 6:15; Col 2:19) Their turn against the covenant, gave Satan a foothold to instigate his idea, which is to deceive the “elect” in the last days. (Deut 29:18-29; Heb 12:15,16; Matt 7:20; Rev 8;10-11; 13:11; Matt 24:24,25; 16:13-16 ) These men, enticed by riches, prominence and power, became Satan’s pawn to destroy the anointed before the coming of the Kingdom. (2 Cor 11:3; 1 Tim 4:1,2; Rev 12:4,13,15,17) If any JW believes this is impossible, then you surely, have been deceived. (2 Cor 11:13-15; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Jude 1:4,8,16; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10) But back to the plan of men. Even though at times they may have spoken well about Jesus, their message changed…. No one should love him too much now; and let’s magnify the name “Jehovah”, and forget about putting much focus on His Son, and his body of anointed priests. (Phil 3:18-20) Put them in a corner please, and make sure they don’t meet as a group to learn from their Master and Head, Jesus Christ. (John 15:5; 1 Cor 12:25; Heb 10:19-25) They must answer only to “us” who hold power over “Israel”. They must obey our bodyguards, our “elders” as well. (Matt 24:48-51; Dan 8:23-25; Rev 9:1-4; 13:5-7) Be aware now, that any “truth” which would come from their bonding, could be a threat to our doctrine, which we will be revising on a regular basis; but still, we can’t have their opinions based on “scripture” outweigh our doctrine. (John 15:1-4; 1 John 2:27;1 Cor 1:10; Phil 2:2) We’ll install our own priesthood, and build our own temple! Let’s preach a “different Jesus” and see how long we get away with it! (Ps 50:16-21; Hab 2:9-10; 2 Cor 11:4) Oh, and I must emphasize this, don’t teach too much about Jesus as the chief cornerstone, because it will draw attention to God’s true dwelling/Temple built with “living stones”, that we cannot see with our eyes. (Ps 118:22; Isa 28:16; 1 Pet 2:4-8; Eph 2:20-22; Ps 50:22-23) We can’t have that; “Jehovah’s organization” is our primary focus, remember? Yeah, yeah, we know…Jesus began building a new spiritual temple on his body, (John 2:18,21) BUT…. WE NEED SOMETHING WE CAN SEE! SOMETHING WE CAN DEVELOP INTO OUR OWN KINGDOM - NOW! LET’S FLY SOME FLAGS AT OUR GATHERINGS, TO DRAW PEOPLE TO OUR KINGDOM! Jesus said his kingdom is no part of the world, but he hasn’t stopped us from stretching our imagination, has he? (John 18:36; Jer 23:16) God seems rather quiet, so I’m sure He’s in agreement with our plans, and after all, we will promote everything we accomplish, as coming from Him! (Ps 50:21; Hab 1:13; 2:2-5,18-20; 2 Pet 3:3-4) Remember how upset the Pharisees were when Jesus said “destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days”? (John 2:19,20; Luke 24:27) I think we can relate well to that, because their temple was beautiful. I remember the disciples even mentioning how beautiful the stones were. (Luke 21:5,6) But who can admire a temple built with people and not with masonry, wood and marble? I mean, does God’s Spirit really dwell in the heart of an individual? That’s preposterous. (John 14:23; 17:20,21; 1 Pet 2:5;1 Cor 3:9; 2 Cor 6:16; 1 Cor 3:16) We need to build and maintain our own temple for God to dwell in. (James 1:14-15) We can call on volunteers that dedicate themselves to the will of men. (Rom 6:16; Gal 1:10) If we’re business smart, we’ll call this organized religion, “the way to salvation”. (wt 1981/11/15, pp. 16-21) The more volunteers, the more we can build. We’ll make sure it is perfectly desirable for the eyes, and well arranged in this world. (1 John 2:16) We’ll keep it squeaky clean on the outside, but we’ll do our best to hide any unsavory, seedy-type actions and false teachings we’ve committed since, well, from day one! (Luke 11:39) The idea that Jeroboam had was a good one, wasn’t it? He kept the Jews from traveling to Jerusalem to worship at the temple there, by stationing two golden calves in Bethel and Dan, which were much easier to reach for worship, than the temple in Jerusalem. He said, ‘here are your gods, Israel’; and he installed his own priests not anointed by God, to offer sacrifices to their idols. (1 Kings 12:26-33; Dan 8:23-25) We can do that. Although we’ve drawn in all the anointed over the years, we’ll install our up-and-coming army of elders to be our priests! (Rev 13:1,2,5-7,11,12,16:13-16; 20:7-9) There will be more than enough men worldwide to keep the people in check – to keep them fixated on our organized religion, and away from the promised New Covenant, Jerusalem above, and the Temple of “living stones”. (Gal 4:26) (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 9:3-5,7; Rev 11:1-3; Joel 1:6-9; Rev 13:5-7) Of course, to do this, our members will have to dedicate themselves to what we’ve built, an organization greater than any other on this earth! (Rev 13:4,16,16) Maybe we should “breathe” some life into this organization, creating a divine image…a “spirit-directed organization”! (Rev 13:15) And if any of our members decide not to follow up on their dedication; and especially if they promote Jesus Christ only, as the way to salvation…well, that could be a great blow to our numbers if people caught on. However, we could threaten them with loss of all the friends and family members, if they turn their back on what WE’VE built. Upon kicking out the noncompliant, we’ll let everyone else know, that these rebels are as good as dead. (John 16:2,3; Rev 11:1-3,7;13:15) Sooo, what if something greater than Solomon is here, didn’t God put His Spirit in that early temple that Solomon built? (2 Chron 7:16-22; Luke 11:31) I know, He really meant that He would build His temple on the body of His beloved Son…(2 Sam 7:4-7, 10-16) BUT WE NEED SOMETHING WE AND OUR FOLLOWERS CAN GRAVITATE TO! Something we can put our hands on, and CONTROL. An organization will afford us power and dominance over others! (Isa 45:9-13; Luke 22:24-27) How about calling it “Jehovah’s mountainlike organization”? (Isa 40:25) I mean, that should clearly indicate to outsiders that God’s Spirit dwells only in our organization. (But that really is a form of a modern version of idolatry. Don’t pass that around, though. Wt. 1990/11/1 p. 26) It will be an inspiring idea, and it will sell like hotcakes! Every building we establish will be called God’s dwelling, His house. We’ll even name a few, “Bethel”, after the Bethel that was eventually destroyed because of idolatry. (Amos 5:5,6) Forget totally about what Jesus said he would do, because THIS IDEA, will be a money-maker. We’ll incorporate it, advertise it, and draw in millions, along with their money! As its leaders, we’ll live high off the hog! We’ll even preach scriptures and make up a “good news” to offer to others – with some truth and a lot of lies. With that bait, the influx will be great! (Ps 141:9; Jer 5:26) After we’re well established and have printed hundreds of books and millions of magazines, we can begin selling off our buildings that we had once dedicated to “Jehovah”. (Eccl 12:12-14) No worries, we’ll build more; and think of the money we’ll make with each real estate transaction! This will give us the ability to invest in hedge funds! (2 Cor 2:17) Wow, the opportunities are endless. And then, let’s put the printing presses aside, and build a movie studio. Awesome! ~~~~~~~~ None of Israel’s temples survived. Idols were wiped out periodically by the few faithful kings of Israel. Only the early ark of the covenant was not destroyed, which was made by the template that Moses saw in heaven – the spiritual temple we have today in Jesus Christ and built on the anointed “living stones”. (Heb 8:1-6) Its representation is now in heaven. “After this I looked, and the heavenly temple—the tabernacle of testimony—was opened.” Rev 15:5 Its representation is within the hearts of the heavenly sealed anointed dwelling of God; another mobile tabernacle, “ark of the covenant”, where God’s laws are written on the hearts of these priests. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16; Heb 8:10; Mal 2:7; Heb 12:22) And they will be very mobile in the Kingdom, moving between heaven and earth with Jesus Christ, to serve the needs of all of God’s children. (Gen 28:10-17; John 1:50-51; Rev 21:1-4; 22:1-5) Why haven’t men learned their lesson, that anything they build was never God’s original plan. (2 Sam 7:6-7) He tolerated it before Jesus arrived. He will not tolerate it any longer. The entire Bible is about the coming of Christ, and Greek scriptures only speak of ONE temple, one House of God – which is built on Christ. (Eph 2:20-22) Only one Temple is God’s dwelling in Spirit. Why would He choose another to dwell in, when He has built His precious Temple of Truth, on His beloved Son? Especially, why would He choose an organization built in Satan’s domain, that keeps a hidden data base of child abuse, of all things! What a horrendous degradation of the Holy, Pure Almighty God, for anyone to believe God has put His name on FILTH! (Isa 28:14-22) A mountain that rivals Holy Zion/God’s Temple, is predicted to fall. It is the mountain that has captured every anointed over the past approximately 150 years, through Satan’s ploy to destroy them. The longer it takes for the last of the anointed to be sealed, the longer he has to deceive and lead God’s holy people into destruction. (Rev 13:4,8;2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12; Rev 13:1,2,18; 17:8) It was prophesied that the “elect” would be deceived by false prophets in the last days. (Matt 24:24,25) They have been deceived, into believing an organization takes precedence over the holy Temple, that they are to have a part of. (1 Pet 2:5,9) They have forgotten not only their position as a royal priesthood who must offer “sacrifices of praise”, who must produce “good fruit” that remains. (Matt 12:33-37; John 15:1-6; Heb 13:125) But they have turned to men as their masters who offer “food” sacrificed to an idol – “Jehovah’s organization” which takes full priority over God’s spiritual Temple. (Rev 2:20; 9:20) (Zech 4:6-10) Since JWs reject the only acceptable form of worship, (John 4:24) they reject Christ as well. He cannot be molded to your expectations of how to worship God. John 5:39 – “You pore over the Scriptures because you think you have eternal life in them, and yet they testify about me.” I would hope that all JWs, show humility and read the scriptures; put aside what men have built, and turn fully to the Father and the Son for understanding. (Zech 2:7 Rev 18:4-8) 2 Cor 5:7 - For we walk by faith, not by sight. To your leaders: "Come now, you rich people, weep and wail over the miseries that are coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted and your clothes are moth-eaten. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded, and their corrosion will be a witness against you and will eat your flesh like fire. You have stored up treasure in the last days. 4 Look! The pay that you withheld from the workers who mowed your fields cries out, and the outcry of the harvesters has reached the ears of the Lord of Armies. 5 You have lived luxuriously on the earth and have indulged yourselves. You have fattened your hearts in a day of slaughter. 6 You have condemned, you have murdered the righteous, who does not resist you." James 5:1-6 YHVH's Genuine Mountain
  22. John 2:19-21 Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” The Jews then said, “It has taken forty-six years to build this temple, and will you raise it up in three days?” But he was speaking about the temple of his body. Acts 7:48-51 Yet the Most High does not dwell in houses made by hands, as the prophet says, 49 “‘Heaven is my throne, and the earth is my footstool. What kind of house will you build for me, says the Lord, or what is the place of my rest? 50 Did not my hand make all these things?’ 51 “You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you."
  23. What a hoax you have created. Watchtower’s Bethels, their kingdom halls, assembly halls, branch offices – all described as “God’s House”, as well as the organization as a whole, is a lie. Acts 7: 48-50 - “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says: 49 ‘Heaven is My throne, And earth is My footstool. What house will you build for Me? says the Lord, Or what is the place of My rest? 50 Has My hand not made all these things?’” Acts 17:24,25,28,29 – “God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things. for in Him we live and move and have our being, as also some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Therefore, since we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, something shaped by art and man’s devising." Bottom line, God does not desire men to build Him a house made with literal wood, stone, marble, etc., since with the coming of Jesus Christ, the “living stone” of His spiritual Temple has been established. No one can make the claim that His Spirit dwells in what men have built. Well, they do make the claim, but they are liars, according to God's word. Eph 2:19-20 - Now, therefore, you are no longer strangers and foreigners, but fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. 1 Pet 2:5 - Coming to Him as to a living stone, rejected indeed by men, but chosen by God and precious, 5 you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. This is the house you reject as God’s House; and instead, exalt the work of men’s hands. You expect God to cleanse a “temple built with hands”; not only Warwick, but the entire organization. The scriptures clearly describe God’s true “house” as built on the chief cornerstone, the apostles and the prophets. You can either accept the definition of God’s house outlined in His word, or continue to tell your lies and mislead all JWs; as they have already been misled by the false prophets that Jesus warned would mislead the “elect”/saints/”living stones” – “kings of the earth” (Rev 1:5,6) of the true Temple of God - in the last days. (Matt 24:24,25; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 13:11,12; 16:13-16; 19:20; 20:10) 1 Cor 3:9 - For we are God’s fellow workers; you are God’s field, you are God’s building. 2 Cor 3:16,17 - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? 17 If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are. Do you feel confident enough to participate in destroying God’s Temple, by proclaiming your lies. You expect them to stay put in a house built by men and not by God – a house that is an idol. Watchtower alone, put the label, “God’s House” on their creation – a “temple built with hands”, as is the entire organization – “Jehovah’s organization”. Rom 1:25 - They exchanged the truth of God for a lie, and worshiped and served what has been created instead of the Creator, who is praised forever. Amen. 2 Cor 6:16-18 - And what agreement has the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God. As God has said: “I will dwell in them And walk among them. I will be their God, And they shall be My people.” 17 Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.” 18 “I will be a Father to you, And you shall be My sons and daughters, Says the Lord Almighty.” Jer 2:11-13 – “Has a nation ever exchanged its gods? (But they were not gods!) Yet my people have exchanged their Glory for useless idols. 12 Be appalled at this, heavens; be shocked and utterly desolated! This is the Lord’s declaration. 13 For my people have committed a double evil: They have abandoned me, the fountain of living water, and dug cisterns for themselves— cracked cisterns that cannot hold water.” John 7:38 - "The one who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, will have streams of living water flow from deep within him.” John chapter 4 - A woman of Samaria came to draw water. “Give me a drink,” Jesus said to her, 8 because his disciples had gone into town to buy food. 9 “How is it that you, a Jew, ask for a drink from me, a Samaritan woman?” she asked him. For Jews do not associate with Samaritans. 10 Jesus answered, “If you knew the gift of God, and who is saying to you, ‘Give me a drink,’ you would ask him, and he would give you living water.” 11 “Sir,” said the woman, “you don’t even have a bucket, and the well is deep. So where do you get this ‘living water’? 12 You aren’t greater than our father Jacob, are you? He gave us the well and drank from it himself, as did his sons and livestock.” 13 Jesus said, “Everyone who drinks from this water will get thirsty again. 14 But whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty again. In fact, the water I will give him will become a well of water springing up in him for eternal life.” 15 “Sir,” the woman said to him, “give me this water so that I won’t get thirsty and come here to draw water.” Jesus told her, “Believe me, woman, an hour is coming when you will worship the Father neither on this mountain nor in Jerusalem. 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know. We worship what we do know, because salvation is from the Jews. 23 But an hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in Spirit and in truth. Yes, the Father wants such people to worship him. 24 God is spirit, and those who worship him must worship in Spirit and in truth.” No ”mountainlike organization” built with earthly treasures stolen from the innocent and stored up by men who lustfully continue to build their empire, is the dwelling place of God’s Spirit. Where is "Bethel"?
  24. @AnnaNana- "Please, dear friend, I beg you, come back to the sheepfold." "He loves you. He does. He died for you. He hasn't left you."
  25. I don’t doubt this at all. Paul was anointed and sent to the Gentiles. Native born Jews and Gentiles that were anointed, became spiritual “Israel” under God. Rom 9:6-8; Eph 2:14-18 Most definitely. God doesn’t choose people by their “prior position” in any religions school. the Lord appointed seventy-two others” They were personally appointed by Jesus, he chose them. “You did not choose me, but I chose you. I appointed you to go and produce fruit and that your fruit should remain, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he will give you.” John 15:16 “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. The demons submitted to them because of the authority he bestowed upon them. Their names were written in heaven. They are part of the anointed Temple of God. Luke 10:17-20 Yes, they are the anointed. I know from first-hand experience that Wt. elders are not “appointed” by Holy Spirit. The term “elder” signifies an older, more mature person, “having seasoned judgment” , which Paul, Peter, the apostles all were.
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