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    I speak often of Pearl Doxsey, an inspired anointed one who has been spiritually “killed” by the Watchtower/Beast and teaches Truth in Christ.  Zech 4:1-5,11-14; Rev 11:1-3,4,7; 13:1,7,11,15; Matt 23:34; John 13:20  

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zech+4%3A1-5%2C11-14%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3%2C4%2C7%3B+13%3A1%2C7%2C11%2C15%3BMatt+23%3A34%3B+John+13%3A20&version=NIV

    For anyone interested, her comments on this program begins at 57.50 and continues with questions asked of her, until the end of the program. 

    https://soundcloud.com/rick-fearon/six-screens-of-the-watchtower-conference-call-may-26-2018

  2. 6 hours ago, Queen Esther said:

    NO   COMMENT....

    Please  STOP   such  of  posts  under  my  Daily texts  here  and  on  other  pages  too,  its  in  vain  and  I  don't  want  that.    THANK  YOU !

    I  will  tell  it  our  Librarian.....

    The truth is sobering. The entire 1 Tim 5:17 says, "The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching."

    This scripture is about the anointed priesthood and Body of Christ.  This is their job, not a false priesthood who has replaced them.  1 Pet 2:5,9; Mal 2:7; 1 Cor 12:4-31

    Since you mentioned that the Daily Texts was your category, I respected your wishes and never again commented there.  I was unaware that this category belonged to you also.  If this is the case, I will refrain from commenting under “Post a Photo”, although I thought it was open to all.  

  3.  

     “Immediately I was in the Spirit; and behold, a throne set in heaven, and One sat on the throne. And He who sat there was like a jasper and a sardius stone in appearance; and there was a rainbow around the throne, in appearance like an emerald. Around the throne were twenty-four thrones, and on the thrones I saw twenty-four elders sitting, clothed in white robes; and they had crowns of gold on their heads. And from the throne proceeded lightnings, thunderings, and voices. Seven lamps of fire were burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.  Rev 4:2-5

    Whenever the living creatures give glory and honor and thanks to Him who sits on the throne, who lives forever and ever,  the twenty-four elders fall down before Him who sits on the throne and worship Him who lives forever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying:

    11 “You are worthy, O Lord,
    To receive glory and honor and power;
    For You created all things,
    And by Your will they exist and were created.”  Rev 4:9-11

    The pictures you have innocently arranged depict the “trampling” of God’s anointed ones, who are God’s Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:10,20-22; 2 Thess 2:3,4  The “twenty four elders” are described in your Insight Book which you can look up.  They are the faithful anointed ones, NOT an un-anointed elder body who the anointed must obey. Matt 24:48-51 Watchtower has deliberately misled all JWs, more fully in recent times, since this lie has taken time to manifest itself. Rev 16:13-16  Frogs begin as an egg, then to a tadpole, and eventually to an adult frog.  This “plague” is demonic expressions, to cause anointed “kings of the earth” to fall…and all JWs with them.  2 Thess 2:9-12; 2 Tim 3:13

    The elder body is magnified; the anointed Body of Christ is demeaned.  By placing the photos according to your understanding, the Watchtower and its Harlot leaders are completing their plan – to shatter the “holy ones”.  Rev 13:1,4,7,8,11,14-17

    “Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was above the waters of the river, when he held up his right hand and his left hand to heaven, and swore by Him who lives forever, that it shall be for a time, times, and half a time; and when the power of the holy people has been completely shattered, all these things shall be finished.”

    The anointed and their “daily sacrifices” as God’s chosen priests and teachers (Mal 2:7) is being fully erased by this deceitful organization.  If anyone can perceive this hidden tyranny, scripture admonishes you to FLEE. 

    Matt 24:15,16; Dan 9:27; 11:31; 12:11

    “Disgusting Thing” 4womaninthewilderness blog

     

     

  4. I have not seen the above video, but I have seen this one.  God is just too slow to act on behalf of the Watchtower, so Wt. must rely on their political partners for aid.    Do you believe the GB realizes that God isn't hearing their "plea" for justice?  Isa 1:4,12-15

    Surely, if "Jehovah's organization" is involved in any way with whom they call Revelation's "Beast",  then perhaps its leaders know something that JWs don't know -  that the Watchtower organization is the true Beast to come against God's anointed ones, and the GB is the "false prophet/Harlot" (of course! "she's" very political, unlike Christ)  After all, the anointed are conveniently gathered through deceptive means.  Rev 13:1,7,11,15;20:7-10    

    Hobnobbing with Satan's "world" proves of a few things.  The organization and its leaders ARE completely immersed in this world.  This leaves a huge amount of pages in magazines and books that could stand shredding...or burning.  

     

     

     

  5. On 5/15/2018 at 5:00 PM, TrueTomHarley said:
    On 5/15/2018 at 5:00 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

    It is only because Witnesses come to think outside the mainstream

     

    Yes, it is called, “confusion”…

    On 5/15/2018 at 5:00 PM, TrueTomHarley said:

    that they are called a cult by those who permit no deviation.

    God permits no deviation to truth.  Cults twist the truth.

    Here are examples of ‘messing with your mind’; which cults are good at: 

    Awake 9/22/04 p. 14 par 8:  “The Bible urges you to think for yourself

    Wt. 7/15/06 p22 par 14:  “Some fall into the trap of independent thinking

     yp1 chap. 38 pp. 273-281:    Why not dig into your Bible and scrutinize your beliefs, perhaps using a book such as What Does the Bible Really Teach?

     Wt 89 9/15 pp 20-25:   “But a spirit of independent thinking does not prevail in God’s organization, and we have sound reasons for confidence in the men taking the lead among us.” 

  6. As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!”  Mark 13:1 

    I never realized just how massive and magnificent these stones were, until doing a bit of research.  From their quarrying to their installation, the construction feat of Herod the Great’s temple in Jerusalem still marvels the world.  Cut from a limestone quarry above the ancient Temple Mount, some stones of the temple wall and retaining wall weighed up to 160,000 pounds while many a mere, but still impressive, two tons. Each of these stones is the reversed image of a typical framed piece of art, with a raised flat center and embossed edges, a masonry technique called “ashlar”. The larger of the ashlars are cornerstones weighing up to 80 tons, 40 feet long, 8 feet wide and 3 ½ feet tall.  The temple building, fifteen stories tall, was made out of white marble, and embellished with gold.  A hundred sixty-two pillars of grandeur formed from single blocks of white marble, lined the colonnade in the location of the “Royal Porch”.  The historian Josephus remarked that the temple appeared as a shimmering “snowy mountain” in the sunlight.   

    Within the inner court at the location of the altar of sacrifice, the stonework changed to unhewn stones following God’s decrees in Deut 27:4-8 and Exod 20:25 (Dan 2:34; 1 Pet 2:4,5).  At its entrance to the inner court, a stone now housed in the museum in Istanbul has the following inscription concerning foreigners: 

    "Let no foreigner enter within the parapet and the partition which surrounds the Temple precincts. Anyone caught [violating] will be held accountable for his ensuing death."     (Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9)        

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deut+27%3A4-8%3B+Exod+20%3A25%3BDan+2%3A34%3B+1+Pet+2%3A4%2C5%3B+Ezek+44%3A6-9%3B+2+Chron+13%3A9+&version=NIV

    Herod enlarged the footprint of Solomon and Zerubbabel’s earlier accomplishments to around 35 acres. What was his motivating factor for taking on such a tremendous project?  He had established a reputation for enhancing many cities and building pagan temples, but Jerusalem was his capital and thus far, fell behind in works of achievements. Also, his reputation among the majority of the Jews was less than appealing; being known as a brutal tyrant appointed by, and upholding the Roman emperor, although he being a Jew. He heavily taxed the citizens to support his ambitious effort. Building the temple was an act of appeasement as “king of the Jews”, but more so, it appears to be the result of his insatiable desire to build upon his fame and legacy to follow.   

    As Edomites of the lineage of Esau, Jacob’s brother, his family line converted to Judaism in the second century b.c.; yet, Herod’s luxurious life-style and appointment by Rome was unacceptable by the majority of Jews.   On ,the one hand he insisted on Jewish priests to build the temple, but for political advantage he eventually appointed high priests from outside of the traditional Levitical priesthood to serve in the temple – a contradiction of the stone’s writings near the inner court.   

    This man spearheaded what historians call the “Massacre of the Innocents” in his attempt to find and kill, the young Jesus – the “chief cornerstone” of the spiritual Temple of God and a perceived threat to his kingship. Herod, the rebellious hunter acting in the same manner as his Edomite descendants, was obsessed with keeping power at all costs; and it brought about his mental and physical ruin.  Jesus was still a child when he died an excruciating death from chronic kidney disease and its complications.  Matt 2:3,4,7,8,19,20      https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+2%3A3%2C4%2C7%2C8%2C19%2C20&version=NIV

    “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”  Mark 13:2 

    Herod’s massive stone legacy was attacked by the Romans and their siege engines, beginning in 66 c.e. and ending with complete destruction of the temple in 70 c.e.  

    Today, we have an intriguing correlation to Herod, his tyranny and his desire to build a legacy in stone, manifested in the leadership of the Watchtower organization.   We see again a spiritual progeny of Esau (Edom) building “Jehovah’s Mountain”, which is taught as the avenue for “God’s people” to stream in from the desolate places of Christendom.  Mal 1:4;Obad 1:2-4; Jer 49:4; Heb 12:15-17; Rev 8:10,11     https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mal+1%3A4%3BObad+1%3A2-4%3B+Jer+49%3A4%3B+Heb+12%3A15-17%3B+Rev+8%3A10%2C11+++&version=NIV

    Wt 55/12/15  In great numbers the inhabitants of the isles are hearing the call of the Right Shepherd, Jesus Christ, as they hasten to flee to Jehovah’s mountainlike ORGANIZATION. 

    Would the chief cornerstone of God’s SPIRITUAL Temple call individuals to a deceiving stone imagery, under the pretense of offering “peace and security”? John 18:36; Rev 13:1,4-8,15;1 Thess 5:1-3   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+18%3A36%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C4-8%2C15%3B1+Thess+5%3A1-3&version=NIV

    The woman at the well in John 4 commented: 

    “Our ancestors worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews claim that the place where we must worship is in Jerusalem.”  “Woman,” Jesus replied, “believe me, a time is coming when you will worship the Father NEITHER ON THIS MOUNTAIN NOR IN JERUSALEM 22 You Samaritans worship what you do not know; we worship what we do know, for salvation is from the Jews. 23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in the Spirit and in truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. 24 God is spirit, and his worshipers MUST worship in the Spirit and in truth.”  John 4:20-24

    JWs, please consider the Watchtower 2016 No. 2 pp. 8-10 comment on these scriptures:

     “The Jewish temple was a tangible structure at a specific geographic location. But spirit and truth are not material, nor are they limited to any physical place. Thus, Jesus was explaining that true Christian worship WOULD NOT BE CENTERED IN OR DEPENDENT ON ANY MATERIAL STRUCTURE OR PHYSICAL LOCATION, whether Mount Gerizim, the temple in Jerusalem, or any other sacred place.”

    Now, notice the brief quip from this video about assembly halls entitled, “Caring for Centers of Pure Worship”:

    “The assembly hall is an educational center.  This is A CENTER OF PURE WORSHIP for all the congregations that come. Taking care of JEHOVAH’S HOUSE is part of sacred service, even going back to the temple everyone had an assignment.  They had someone open the doors, of course they also had someone maintaining things.”

    (Please read 1 Chron 23:28 to see who “everyone” refers to) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Chron+23%3A28+&version=NIV

    In an off-handed way, Watchtower’s gathering places are compared to the early temple, as places of “sacred service” in “Jehovah’s House”.  The only “house” sanctioned by God since the destruction of Jerusalem’s temple, is the anointed Body of Christ where spiritual sacred service is to be carried out by his priesthood. 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 1 Cor 3:9; Heb 3:6; 1 Pet 4:17; Rom 12:1; 2 Cor 9:12,13  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+Eph+2%3A20-22%3B+1+Cor+3%3A9%3B+Heb+3%3A6%3B+1+Pet+4%3A17%3B+Rom+12%3A1%3B+2+Cor+9%3A12%2C13++&version=NIV

    In this video, Wt. is basically telling JWs to forego their previous remark, and maintain “Herod’s” impressive buildings and pagan “shrines”.  The organization has a large portfolio of them, as did Herod the Great.

    We can see a grim future for the anointed “living stones”/priesthood of the Temple of God residing under the spiritual progeny of Esau. Gen 25:30-33; Rev 17:7,12,13,18   Using their labor force, including all JWs, Watchtower’s “Herods” have built their TEMPLE IDOL, leaving God’s priesthood/stones misplaced and scattered unidentifiably, throughout the organization.  Masked tyranny is one of the trademarks of deceit.  It is employed effectively by false ‘kings of the Jews’ to construct not only their idol, but its wall of lies; all the while robbing God of His living stones who fail to join the chief cornerstone and Head of the true Temple, Jesus Christ. Obadiah 1:8-10; Matt 21:42; Acts 4:11,12; 1 Pet 2:7,8  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen.25%3A30-33%3B+Rev.17%3A7%2C12%2C13%2C18%3B+Obadiah+1%3A8-10%3B+Matt+21%3A42%3B+Acts+4%3A11%2C12%3B+1+Pet+2%3A7%2C8++&version=NIV

    Herod the Great never blinked an eye when it came to killing his family members if his authority seemed at risk; similarly, the governing body think nothing of it when authorizing their false “Gentile” priesthood, the elder body who “sits” in God’s Temple, to disfellowship - spiritually “kill” - their “fellow slaves”, the chosen anointed priesthood who may challenge both their authority and their teachings.  2 Thess 2:3,4; John 16:2; Matt 24:48-51; Obadiah 1:11; Rev 13:15; Rev 11:3,7   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3B+John+16%3A2%3B+Matt+24%3A48-51%3B+Obadiah+1%3A11%3B+Rev+13%3A15%3B+Rev+11%3A3%2C7&version=NIV

    Jesus said, “When you enter a house, first say, ‘Peace to this house.’ 6 If someone who promotes peace is there, your peace will rest on them; if not, it will return to you. 7 Stay there, eating and drinking whatever they give you, for the worker deserves his wages. Do not move around from house to house. Luke 10:5-7
    Herod hunted down Jesus going house to house wanting to destroy him; similarly today, this sly hunting technique has effectively captured the anointed “firstfruits” into the Beast /organization using basic truth. Once caught, he liberally feeds them lies from the Harlot’s mouth. We know God allows this period of testing by Satan, just as He did with Job. Job 1:12; Luke 22:31; Mal 3:1-4   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1%3A12%3B+Luke+22%3A31%3B+Mal+3%3A1-4 + &version=NIV

    Watchtower’s counterfeit Zion is doomed to fall.  “Jehovah’s mountainlike organization” and its wall of lies is crumbling quickly and will soon become dust.   Ezek 13:1-16; Zech 4:7;Rev 8:8   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ezek+13%3A1-16%3B+Zech+4%3A7%3BRev+8%3A8+++&version=NIV

    “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?”

    “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’ standing where itdoes not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.”  Mark 13:4,14

    As for “Jerusalem”, the city gone apostate, its Temple wall or protective defense of Truth has already been breached by a “Gentile” army, which upholds the Harlot/governing body’s lies. Job 1:10; Ezek 38:10,11,14-16;Rev 9:1,3,4,7 This “Herod” uses his delegated “Gentiles” to trample down the Temple – a Beast that is the very fabric holding the wall of demonic expressions in place. Dan 7:23; Matt 24:15; Rev 16:13,14  When Jesus told his disciples that the stones of the early temple would be thrown down by the Romans, I can imagine how difficult it was to comprehend his words, since its striking beauty and mass appeared invincible; yet it happened.  Over the last 100 or so years, a new “temple” of “hewn stones” and a “wall” of lies with its detestable sacrifices, has grown and surrounded the already scattered and unused “living stones”.  Mal 1:6-8;  Dan 11:31; Isa 28:7,8; Rev 20:7-9     https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Job+1%3A10%3B+Ezek+38%3A10%2C11%2C14-16%3BRev+9%3A1%2C3%2C4%2C7%3BDan+7%3A23%3B+Matt+24%3A15%3B+Rev+16%3A13%2C14%3B+Mal+1%3A6-8%3B++Dan+11%3A31%3B+Isa+28%3A7%2C8+%3B+Rev+20%3A7-9++&version=NIV

    I hope, JWs, that you can perceive this. 

    Pearl Doxsey:

    “In the first Century, the Temple was already under the dominion of the Romans, before either attack on Jerusalem. So too today (Dan.7:25Rev.13:79:3,5,10Matt.5:13).
    The point at which the first assault by the Gentiles occurs today, is when the faithful anointed, are "killed", or, disfellowshipped/expelled (John16:2Isa.66:52Chron.13:9). This is comparable to the first century, and it's temple's "wall" being breached at the first siege (Isa.5:5Ps.80:1289:40Prov.24:31). Today, not all of the anointed Temple, are made powerless with this first breach.  That complete collapse of "Jerusalem" is yet to come (Dan.12:7). 

    This "wall" today, (Matt.21:33Neh.1:32:17) was a defensive boundary (Job1:10) for the "Temple" (1Cor.3:161Pet.2:5Eph.2:21,22) and all the unsealed priests (both invited leaders and invited followers/Steward and domestics) within it.
    Once the “wall” is initially breached (Rev.8:10,1113:19:1,3; Job 30:14) by the spiritual "weapons" the false prophet gives to the Gentiles (deceptive doctrines, lying arrangements, illicit power and false authority Rev.9:1,2,3,713:2,11,12,14,1516:13,142Thess.2:9,10Hosea4:6Dan.8:24 (Rev.13:12); Luke21:24Rev.11:1,2),  
    (1st Century-- Matt.27:1,2John18:30,3119:12,15Luke23:2)


    The previous defensive “wall” no longer protects the invited priests within it (Ec.10:5,6,72Thess.2:4Ps.82:6). Once the breach expels those who take a stand for truth, the stage is then set for the demise of the ENTIRE temple, ...INCLUDING THE “HARLOT” (Ec.10:8Isa.47:10Dan.8:1311:13). 

    The second siege is the point after which all have had the opportunity to "flee" apostate Jerusalem. Once you see the faithful trampled upon, you know that "Jerusalem" is "surrounded by encamped armies" of Gentiles, and it is time to FLEE (Luke21:20,21,22).” 

    That time is now, JWs!  Seek the true Mountain of God, the true Zion where Christ is the cornerstone and worship is in “spirit and truth”.  God’ true Temple is His handiwork,(Eph 2:10,20-22; 1 Cor 3:16,17) not the work of men who are obsessed with obtaining your money and slavery to build their temple.  Someone on a forum pointed out the covert meaning behind the chosen address of Warwick’s “Bethel” – 1 Kings Drive. The book of 1 Kings concerns the building of Solomon’s temple; yet the conglomerate temple the GB has built is an IDOL, diverting your attention from the true Temple in God’s anointed priesthood.   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph+2%3A10%2C20-22%3B+1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17&version=NIV

    Watchtower 2017/10 “Today, millions of people worship Jehovah. They are happy to give him their “valuable things,” such as their time, energy, and material resources. In this way, they support Jehovah’s great spiritual temple.”

    Since when does a “spiritual temple” that “WOULD NOT BE CENTERED IN OR DEPENDENT ON ANY MATERIAL STRUCTURE OR PHYSICAL LOCATION,”  need another's "time, energy and material resources”?  (Wt 2016 No. 2)  God’s “valuable things” are his “special possession” (1 Pet 2:5,9) and His faithful sheep who listen strictly to the words of Truth from the cornerstone of His True Temple.    1 Pet 2:7,8; John 13:20    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A7%2C8%3B+John+13%3A20 + &version=NIV

    “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. And he is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else."  Acts 17:24-25

    Pearl Doxsey:

    “First the ‘wall’…Then the Entire ‘Temple’”

    “Wall/Christ’s Side”

    4womaninthewilderness

    “The day of the Lord is near
        for all nations.
    As you have done, it will be done to you;
        your deeds will return upon your own head.
    16 Just as you drank on my holy hill,
        so all the nations will drink continually;
    they will drink and drink
        and be as if they had never been.
    17 But on Mount Zion will be deliverance;
        it will be holy,
        and Jacob will possess his inheritance.
    18 Jacob will be a fire
        and Joseph a flame;
    Esau will be stubble,
        and they will set him on fire and destroy him. (Jer 23:29; 5:14; Rev 11:5; Hos 6:5;1 Cor 3:13)
    There will be no survivors
        from Esau.”
    The Lord has spoken.  Obadiah 1:15-18   

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Jer+23%3A29%3B+5%3A14%3B+Rev+11%3A5%3B+Hos+6%3A5%3B1+Cor+3%3A13&version=NIV

     

     

  7. Because like Edom, Esau’s progeny, Watchtower’s leaders have no fear of God.

    “The terror you inspire
        and the pride of your heart 
    have deceived you,
    you who live in the clefts of the rocks,
        who occupy the heights of the hill.
    Though you build your nest as high as the eagle’s,
        from there I will bring you down,”
    declares the Lord.  Jer 49:16

     

    These are the last words of David:

    “The inspired utterance of David son of Jesse,
        the utterance of the man exalted by the 
    Most High,
    the man anointed by the God of Jacob,
        the hero of Israel’s songs:

    “The Spirit of the Lord spoke through me;
        his word was on my tongue.
    The God of Israel spoke,
        the Rock of Israel said to me:
    When one rules over people in righteousness,
        when
    he rules in the fear of God,
    he is like the light of morning at sunrise
        on a cloudless morning,
    like the brightness after rain
        that brings grass from the earth.’

    “If my house were not right with God,
        surely he would not have made with me an everlasting covenant,
        arranged and secured in every part;
    surely he would not bring to fruition my salvation
        and grant me my every desire.
    But evil men are all to be cast aside like thorns,
        which are not gathered with the hand.
    Whoever touches thorns
        uses a tool of iron or the shaft of a spear;
        they are burned up where they lie.” 2 Sam 23:1-7

    Is the Watchtower "right with God"?  I see only darkness emanating from the Watchtower, its leaders, and its choice to ignore their own sins. 

     

     

     

  8. On 5/10/2018 at 12:17 AM, Gone Away said:

    A consideration of the context of this expression shows that the apostle Paul was discussing spirit-anointed Christians alive at that time. While still alive, they had been baptized into Christ Jesus and received the valid prospect of heavenly life. In order to be anointed with holy spirit and accepted as spiritual sons of God, they had to die to their former course in life as imperfect humans, have their sins forgiven by God and have human perfection imputed to them.

    However, in view of the words at Romans 6:23 "For the wages sin pays is death", it is clear that Paul's use of a natural and actual illustration (in v7) in connection with the consequence of sin would enable it to correctly be said that "one who has died has been acquitted from his sin".

    If I am overstepping my comprehension of your words, correct me.  I am having trouble pinpointing your understanding of Rom 6:23 and 6:7

    Rom.8:2 reads; "And because you belong to Christ, the power of the life-giving spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death."

    Losing one’s physical life, whether anointed or not does not acquit us of our sins.  Jesus’ death abolishes our sins, but only if we submit to his “life-giving spirit”. 

    It is true that anointed ones must present their bodies as a “living sacrifice of praise”, leaving everything to follow Christ, even one’s physical life; and becoming one with Christ through the anointing is the "valid prospect" of eternal life.  Yet, to God and Christ, all of us are determined as “dead” or “alive”, according to our actions in this life. 

    “When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. And what was the result? You are now ashamed of the things you used to do, things that end in eternal doom.  But now you are free from the power of sin and have become slaves of God. Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life

    23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.”  Rom 6:20-23

    It isn’t often that the rest of verse 23 is associated with…”the wages of sin is death”…in the Watchtower. This death means no longer having the possibility of living, ever.   

    “Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world. He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God.”  Eph 2:1,2

    "For the living know that they will die, (lose their physical life)
     
      but the dead know nothing;
    they have no further reward,
        and even their name is forgotten.
      Their love, their hate
        and their jealousy have long since vanished;
    never again will they have a part
        in anything that happens under the sun
    ."  Eccl 9:5,6

    The spiritually “dead” will not be resurrected to eternal life. 

    “But now, as to whether the dead (all who have lost their physical life) will be raised—haven’t you ever read about this in the writings of Moses, in the story of the burning bush? Long after Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob had died, God said to Moses,[e] ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’[f] 27 So he is the God of the living, not the dead (unrepentant sinners). You have made a serious error.”  Mark 12:26-27

     

     

  9. Why spoil this superficial image that the organization tries desperately to maintain?

    “Watch Yourselves for You Are Being Watched!”

    Watchtower 1960 8/15 pp 503-508 - Instead of producing the “works of the flesh,” what kind of fruitage do witnesses of Jehovah bear?  12 So it is, by observing the conduct of Jehovah’s witnesses, people see that here is a good, upright and godly organization. …

    They also see that here is a clean and virtuous organization whose members have “put off the works belonging to darkness,” who are not walking “in revelries and drunken bouts, not in illicit intercourse and loose conduct, not in strife and jealousy,” and who are not “planning ahead for the desires of the flesh.

    “People of good will also see this tremendous difference and they are attracted to this clean organization, recognizing that here Jehovah’s spirit is dwelling.”—2 John 10, 11.

    Now that we know what lies under the surface –we should be able to surmise God’s spirit does not dwell in the Watchtower.

    “Woe to those who call evil good
        and good evil,
    who put darkness for light
        and light for darkness,
    who put bitter for sweet
        and sweet for bitter.

    21 Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes
        and clever in their own sight. (Matt 24:48-51)

    22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine (Rev 14:8; 18:3)
        and champions at mixing drinks,
    23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe,
        but deny justice to the innocent
    .  Isa 5:20-23

     

  10. 11 hours ago, Nana Fofana said:

    When do you say it is?  "Unless those days were cut short, no flesh had been saved."  How long were the Romans encamped around, and besieging Jerusalem  in 66CE, before leaving [days cut short],  giving Christians a chance to flee to the mountains?  [Else, no flesh had been saved.]  Attack on Jehovah's people, living without wall, in open , rural country, will be touching His eyeball, still-won't it?  Or not?  Causing days to be cut short?  Else, last of anointed [ who maybe don't abound in the numbers some would suggest they do] couldn't be 'extracted', and whatever Satan's purpose for which he's "full of great anger, knowing he has but a short time", might actually come to fruition instead?  I don't Know-  Just pretty disgusted  with thread so thought I'd try to 'compose' a little something to interrupt it if I could ,as much as I could!

    I am sorry you believe this thread is personally disgusting.  We can personally be offended by both opinion and facts against something we wholeheartedly support.  If we don’t look at God’s Word to understand how He personally feels about His spiritual Temple, what we wish to believe and take stock in…means nothing.  Jer 51:51

    Ezek 44:8 - "And you have not kept charge of My holy things yourselves, but you have set foreigners to keep charge of My sanctuary."

    WHO are the foreigners in charge of God’s spiritual Temple? (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) 

    The “Gentile” elder body, who have been given authority over them.  Rev 13:11,12,5,6

     “If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy that person; for God’s temple is sacred, and you together are that temple.”  1 Cor 3:16,17

    Some will say Matt 24:15 reached its finale when the Romans invaded Jerusalem.  Yet, 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 11:1; 2:9; Dan 7:7,23-25  all point to another destruction of the Temple/”holy ones”/anointed made against “New Jerusalem”.  Rev 3:12

    JWs are dazed by the faulty guidance of the anointed GB, forgetting they are only eight men out of all the anointed ones.  You don’t see the other anointed ones, purposefully;  or recognize their untapped spiritual gifts as a holy priesthood.  THEY don’t realize their untapped spiritual gifts.  THIS is a disgusting situation before God and Christ.  Eccl 5:1

    Pearl Doxsey’s article:  First the "wall"...then the entire "Temple"

    A LETTER I RECEIVED:

    I was wondering what you think of this...
     When Jerusalem's temple wall was breached by the 'Gentiles', and then left...and they didn't come back for "3.5 years/times", do you think that was a prophetic type for what we are going through now?
     Seeing the "gentile elders/beast" in the temple (standing where it ought not Mark13:14) and us having to flee to the mountains (Eze.36:8)...
    Are we in the 3 and a half times that was allowed for people to escape ?
     I don't think it was a chance thing that 3.5 times was allowed by Jehavah to set a pattern for modern times.
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------

    REPLY:

    You are right. I remember having the same conversation with my husband about the time it took for the Romans to return, and that it was a prophetic pattern for now.
    The Romans threatened all those in Jerusalem (Jew and Christian) the first go round.
    The second/last threat and assault, was only for those who did not obey Jesus, by "fleeing" "Jerusalem" (Matt.24:15,16Rev.18:4).
    The first 3 1/2 was the ministry of Jesus (3 1/2 years).
    The second 3 1/2 was while the faithful were in the wilderness, after their fleeing Jerusalem.
    During the entire "7", the Gentiles are in power, and "Jerusalem" is under the effect of their domination. 
    (Luke21:24Isa.5:563:18Dan.8:1312:7Rev.11:2,3,713:7,10,156:9,10,1120:4)

    Of course it is obvious that these original two periods (of three and a half years each) were not consecutive. This is because they are not, in their fulfillment today, a literal time period of seven years. This is partly why God's Word refers to them, as seven "times", and not as seven "years". It is also why each "time", is 360 (12X30), and not a 365 solar year.

    In the first Century, the Temple was already under the dominion of the Romans, before either attack on Jerusalem. So too today (Dan.7:25Rev.13:79:3,5,10Matt.5:13).
    The point at which the first assault by the Gentiles occurs today, is when the faithful anointed, are "killed", or, disfellowshipped/expelled (John16:2Isa.66:52Chron.13:9). This is comparable to the first century, and it's temple's "wall" being breached at the first siege (Isa.5:5Ps.80:1289:40Prov.24:31). Today, not all of the anointed Temple, are made powerless with this first breach.  That complete collapse of "Jerusalem" is yet to come (Dan.12:7).

    This "wall" today, (Matt.21:33Neh.1:32:17) was a defensive boundary (Job1:10) for the "Temple" (1Cor.3:161Pet.2:5Eph.2:21,22) and all the unsealed priests (both invited leaders and invited followers/Steward and domestics) within it.
    Once the "wall" is initially breached (Rev.8:10,1113:19:1,3; Job30:14) by the spiritual "weapons" the false prophet gives to the Gentiles (deceptive doctrines, lying arrangements, illicit power and false authority Rev.9:1,2,3,713:2,11,12,14,1516:13,142Thess.2:9,10Hosea4:6Dan.8:24 (Rev.13:12); Luke21:24Rev.11:1,2),
    (1st Century-- Matt.27:1,2John18:30,3119:12,15Luke23:2)
    the previous defensive "wall" no longer protects the invited priests within it (Ec.10:5,6,72Thess.2:4Ps.82:6). Once the breach expels those who take a stand for truth, the stage is then set for the demise of the entire temple, ...including the "Harlot" (Ec.10:8Isa.47:10Dan.8:1311:13).

    The second siege, is for the unfaithful. The very same river of lies (white-washed wall) of the False Prophet/Harlot/wicked steward, that was breached by Gentiles (Beast) to destroy their brothers; will later come back and also take them away (Isa.28:15,17,18,19,2030:12,13Jer.50:15Rev.18:6).
    The meaning of "wall", are teachings we obey, that serve as a boundary to our conscience...which can be a protection if they are true,
    or if false, will be our demise.
    Such walls can be "fortified", "torn down", "repaired", "burrowed through", "white-washed", "cracked", "stormed against", "groped for", "sat upon", "leaning"/"swell out", "crawled upon", "rebuilt", "dug into", etc. I assume you can interpret what these symbolic descriptions mean, regarding wall-like teachings and truths, as well as false doctrines.
    A book could be written about all the Bible's meanings, regarding this one symbol of "wall".

    What the harlotrous ruling invited Steward does not realize, is that the protective wall that she empowers the Gentiles to remove (so that her fellow anointed slaves are open to attack; 1John3:12,154:20), is the very same wall that protects her. She has removed the distinction between the common Gentile ("elders") and the sanctified Priest (anointed chosen) (Lam.1:10Eze.22:25,26,27,28Matt.7:15Acts10:1520:29Zeph.3:3Eze.44:6,7,8,9) so that the uncircumcised Gentiles can become priests of the Temple, ...profane the Temple... and discard it's priesthood (2Chron.13:91Sam.22:17,18,19,21) ...a priesthood which competes with the power and authority of the Harlot (Matt.21:4523:13,27,28,30,31,32,33,34,35Rev.18:24Isa.26:21Luke11:50John11:47,48,49,50).    She does not foresee that the power and authority she gives the Gentile Beast (Rev.9:313:15), is also a threat to her. The Gentiles will not remain her lovers forever (Jer.2:20Eze.16:15,1623:16,17,28,29,30,35,22,23,24,25,26,27Rev.17:2,16). The non-anointed Organization does turn on the adulterous Chosen Ones above it. Ironically, it is the power that the Beast receives from the False Prophet/Harlot, which it uses to destroy her. This is a perfect fit to all the prophetic parables the scroll of Revelation uses, to describe the fornication between the Gentiles and the Chosen House Manager/Steward (in Rev.ch.9; ch.13; and ch.17). (Luke12:42,45,46)
    (http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/07/seven-spiritsscrollsdistinction.html)

    Does the Governing Bdy. really have divine authority, to allow spiritual "Gentile" Elders
    (not anointed, priestly "Jews" -Rom.2:28,291Pet.2:9)
    ...to replace the invited priesthood, take over their duties (Eze.44:6,7,8,9), pass judgment on them (Rom.8:33Rev.13:15), and throw them out? (John16:2Rev.11:72Chron.13:9)
    Only the anointed priests have received the "circumcision of the heart" that they may enter the Temple to "render acceptable service"
    (Rom.2:28,291Pet.2:5Num.18:73:10).
    Any other arrangement, is considered a "disgusting thing, standing in a holy place" (Mark13:14Rev.11:2).


    The second siege is the point after which all have had the opportunity to "flee" apostate Jerusalem. Once you see the faithful trampled upon, you know that "Jerusalem" is "surrounded by encamped armies" of Gentiles, and it is time to FLEE (Luke21:20,21,22). When the "Gentiles" return, they will devastate the unfaithful who remain inside....this is when the "Beast" turns on the "Harlot". It is after the faithful have already been thrown out, or, have been "killed" by the "Wild Beast" (Rev.11:76:9) for their faithful stance for Truth, even in the face of its consequences [Rev.12:1111:7Luke17:33Matt.10:32,33 (John14:64:24)]. At the final devastation of apostate "Jerusalem", the faithful are "outside the camp", in the "wilderness" (Heb.13:13Luke17:30,31,32,35,37Rev.12:611:3Eze.14:22).

    The first 3 1/2 times, can partly be described as the period during which the anointed are growing to maturity, being taught by Christ, following in his footsteps, and being "drawn" by the Father, while under stewardship (Gal.4:2,3,11Cor.4:15Heb.12:9). The midpoint is when they are matured and ready to submit to their Heavenly Father...killed for their faithfulness and loyalty (Rev.6:9,10,11), chosen and sealed.
    The second period of 3 1/2, is when they fulfill the role of John the Baptist/Elijah, by preparing the way for the second arrival of Christ, calling for repentance of those in Covenant with God, and those associated with them (Luke1:17Matt.3:311:14Luke1:76) which also applies today (Mal.4:5Matt.17:1125:6Acts3:21).
    This is the same period while they are considered the "carcass"/"slain", upon which the sealed "eagles" (and those who receive them) feed (Luke17:37Matt.24:27,28Rev.12:141Cor.10:17).
    (http://eagle-or-vulture-obadiah.blogspot.com/)
    This is their period in the "wilderness" (set free from "Egypt", "Sodom", and "Babylon" Rev.9:13,14Luke4:181:17Mal.4:5Matt.17:11), when they are given the freedom as the wings of eagles (spiritual perception) and open entrance into the marriage "feast" (Matt.25:1013:12). One need not be anointed in order to be invited into, and partakers of, this spiritual feast and it's provisions (Matt.22:8,9Rev.19:9)....which is the opening of the seven seals of Revelation (Rev.5:1,6,71:1,20Zech.4:2,3,4,14Rev.11:3,4Matt.5:14).

    This is also the window....the time of escape to the wilderness....to flee to the "hills"/"mountains" of Judea (Matt.5:14John15:5Eze.36:817:23), who are also the faithful slain (Rev.6:9,10,11Matt.24:28; Job39:30,27,28,29,30).
    This is not the same feasting as the "wild animals and unclean birds", who feed upon the slain wicked ones (Jer.49:16Ob.1:4Job.39:26Eze.39:17,18,19,20,21,22Hab.1:8,9Rev.18:2Isa.13:2134:11,13Jer.50:3951:37Zeph.2:14).

    Once the Gentile Beast is done with the faithful (Rev.11:713:1520:4) and then turns on the Harlot, apostate Jerusalem (Rev.17:1,6,16)...
    [the unfaithful in Covenant with God (Hosea1:22:2Rev.17:2)]
    the door to escaping the "City", (Rev.17:18),
    [which is responsible for the "deaths" of the faithful (Rev.11:8)]
    is shut. (2Thess.1:8,9)
    This event is rushing toward us.
    The demise of the corrupt Temple draws near (Eze.8:6,7,8,9,10,11,12Mark13:2Dan.9:26Luke19:44Matt.24:2Luke17:27,29,30,32,33,35,37)

    4womaninthewilderness

     

     

  11. 10 hours ago, Gone Away said:

    It fails to support the allegations made. Not worth reading the rest then,

    Dear Eoin, You are speaking of the Watchtower article, then.  If so, I am pleasantly gobsmacked.  Just want to verify. 

    10 hours ago, Gone Away said:

    as it will only display the same level of competency in argument.

    And this?  To the same level of competency referring to my argument as well?

     

  12. 7 hours ago, Witness said:

    The WT 15/5/15 p. 29-30 states that the attack by Gog and Magog is the final attack of Armageddon; and it is also Satan’s final attack on God’s people.

    CORRECTION!  My apologies. This Watchtower specifies the attack after Armageddon and a thousand years. 

    However, "God's Kingdom Rules" book says:

    After Jesus pronounces his judgment on “all the nations,” several significant events are still to occur before the war of Armageddon begins. (Matt. 25:32) We will consider two of those events: the attack of Gog and the gathering of anointed ones. 

    An all-out attack. Gog of Magog will attack the remaining anointed ones and their other sheep companions. (Read Ezekiel 38:2, 11.) This attack against established Kingdom rule will be Satan’s last battle in a war that he has been waging against the anointed remnant since his expulsion from heaven. (Rev. 12:7-9, 17) Especially since the anointed ones began to be gathered into the restored Christian congregation, Satan has tried to destroy their spiritual prosperity —but to no avail. kr chapter 21 pp. 223-230

    How do they do it, and how do you, JWs, fall for it?  They tell you two different stories and you continue to believe they are sent by God.  

     

     

     

     

     

  13.  The thousand-year reign of Christ began when he ascended into heaven.  By teaching that it is still to come, Watchtower promulgates its lie that the priests will not reign until after Armageddon.  Rev 5:9,10  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+5%3A9%2C10&version=NKJV

    “This is the declaration of the LORD to my Lord: "Sit at my right hand until I make your enemies your footstool."  The LORD will extend your mighty scepter from Zion. Rule over your surrounding enemies.”  Ps 110:1,2

    Do the enemies exist in a thousand-year time of peace?  They exist now.  The faithful priests are to rule now under Christ, battling against Satan’s lies enforced through the teaching of his cohorts.  Gen 3:15; 2 Cor 10:4,5; Eph 6:12 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Gen+3%3A15%3B+2+Cor+10%3A4%2C5%3B+Eph+6%3A12&version=NKJV

     Nowhere in scripture is Christ’s Thousand Year Reign spoken of as a time of peace, along with a time of judgment. (The Wt. teaches the entire time is a “judgment time”)

    Nowhere does scripture say mankind will slowly become physically perfect during the thousand year reign, and then finally reach the end of such judgment by Satan’s release after this peaceful interlude.  

    Nowhere does the Bible say there are separate judgments for two groups of people – the entire “world” facing judgment during Armageddon, but another remnant group judged as safe within the haven of “Jehovah’s organization” during the Great Day of God the Almighty, only to be finally judged again a thousand years later. Dan 7:9,10,21-27 

    Watchtower teaches Satan would be released at that point, to devise a plan that would certainly not happen overnight, since his building tool is gradual deception. Rev 16:13,14 These are fabricated false promises and “sorcery” made to lull JWs into a false “peace and security” – now. 1 Thess 5:1-3; Luke 17:26-30; Rev 18:23  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Dan+7%3A9%2C10%2C21-27%3B+Rev+16%3A13%2C14%3B+1+Thess+5%3A1-3%3B+Luke+17%3A26-30%3B+Rev+18%3A23&version=NKJV 

    "Don't assume that I came to bring peace on the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.”  Matt 10:34

     “Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you.  And when He has come, He will convict the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:  of sin, because they do not believe in Me;  of righteousness, because I go to My Father and you see Me no more;  of judgment, because the ruler of this world is judged.”    John 16:7-11

    If Satan has been judged, so too, have his demons and his “ministers” with him.  2 Cor 11:15  Can you see how incredibly naive it is to think Satan would be released from the abyss after Armageddon?  Once condemned, sentencing normally follows, which is the culmination of Armageddon.  1 Cor 15:23,24,26,25; Rev 20:7-10,14,15    In Rev 20:10, Gog and Magog, the “beast and the false prophet”, and the devil are “thrown into the lake of fire and they are tormented day and night forever and ever”.   The WT 15/5/15 p. 29-30 states that the attack by Gog and Magog is the final attack of Armageddon; and it is also Satan’s final attack on God’s people. https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Cor+11%3A15%3B+1+Cor+15%3A23%2C24%2C26%2C25%3B+Rev+20%3A7-10%2C14%2C15++&version=NKJV

    Think, JWS! 

    Gog and Magog deceive the “holy ones”/anointed.  Rev 20:8,9   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+20%3A8%2C9&version=NKJV

    The Beast and false prophet deceive the “holy ones”.   ”.   Rev 13:14;16:13,14; 19:20  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+13%3A14%3B16%3A13%2C14%3B+19%3A20&version=NKJV

    They are the same entities.

    Satan, the Dragon, deceives the “holy ones”.  Rev 12:15;13:4;16:13,14; 20:10  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+12%3A15%3B13%3A4%3B16%3A13%2C14%3B+20%3A10&version=NKJV

    These three together use “demonic expressions” to deceive; which are  LIES. Luke 21:8  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A8&version=NKJV

    The organization, which is the actual “Beast” of Rev 13:1 and its leaders, the authentic “false prophet” of Rev 13:11, teaches that this beast is the political systems of the world, and the false prophet as Christendom who will be destroyed in Armageddon.  Again, who joins them according to Rev 20:10?  Satan!   Will he be removed from this symbolic “lake of fire” at the end of a thousand literal years to follow Armageddon? (Jer 23:29)

     Can you see the absurdity of the governing body’s “rotten fruit”?  Matt 7:19,20

    The thousand year reign is over, Satan has already been released to formulate his “delusion” of misleading lies through fallen “stars” – anointed ones  (Rev 8:10,11;Dan 12:3;Matt 5:14,15 ;2 Thess 2:9-12), in the form of a “Beast”/organization along with its false prophet (Rev 13:1,11) to surround and come against the “holy people” – the anointed ones. Ezek 38:10,11; Rev 20:9  They and their companions, reside in the midst of Satan’s “den” – the Watchtower, where those who say they are “Jews” (the “Gentile” elder body) rule over spirit-anointed “Israel”.    Rev 2:2,3,9;11:1,2   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+8%3A10%2C11%3BDan+12%3A3%3BMatt+5%3A14%2C15+%3B2+Thess+2%3A9-12%3BRev+13%3A1%2C11%3BEzek+38%3A10%2C11%3B+Rev+20%3A9%3B++Rev+2%3A2%2C3%2C9%3B11%3A1%2C2&version=NKJV

    How Satan has made it explicitly easy to surround them with his lies, by initially offering some truth!

    “Elijah” in the “spirit of truth” (John 16:13; Rev 9:13,14; 16:12; Rev 11:1-3; Isa 46:11,10) is Christ’s servant sent to all his anointed servants to reveal the last power over God’s people -  the “man of lawlessness”/Elder Body standing over the Temple of God/anointed ones, and supported by its false prophet.  Matt 17:11; Rev 1:1;11:1-3; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4;Rev 13:1,18   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+16%3A13%3B+Rev+9%3A13%2C14%3B+16%3A12%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3%3B+Isa+46%3A11%2C10%3BMatt+17%3A11%3B+Rev+1%3A1%3B11%3A1-3%3B+Matt+24%3A15%3B+2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4%3BRev+13%3A1%2C18&version=NKJV

    The final war of Armageddon concerns Christ’s “kings of the earth” –God’s anointed, “special possession”. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Isa 43:10; Rev 1:5,6  This final, decisive war is about God’s anointed ones losing their priestly authority to a Beast and its blasphemies against God’s “sanctuary”.  Rev 13:5-8; 11:1 Will they rise above this blasphemy to serve God and Christ only, in the capacity of priest that scripture admonishes?  Or, will they continue to serve the organization – the Beast and the Harlot/false prophet that directs it? Rev 2:20-22; 18:4-8;17:1-3,6  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Pet+2%3A5%2C9%3B+Isa+43%3A10%3B+Rev+1%3A5%2C6%3B++Rev+13%3A5-8%3B+11%3A1%3BRev+2%3A20-22%3B+18%3A4-8%3B17%3A1-3%2C6+++&version=NKJV

     The history of the Bible deals with God’s Chosen people; but who changed its prophetic outcome to include the entire realm of Satan in the last 100 years?  The Watchtower organization.  God judges everyone in righteousness, but His anointed people who are captivated by Satan’s ruse, are the theme of Daniel and Revelation in the time of the end.  This ruse has one intent; to trample and destroy the anointed ones – the holy priesthood of God.  Luke 21:24; Isa 63:18; Jer 21:10; Dan 8:13;11:36; 7:25; Rev 11:2; Dan 8:11,14; Num 3:10   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A24%3B+Isa+63%3A18%3B+Jer+21%3A10%3B+Dan+8%3A13%3B11%3A36%3B+7%3A25%3B+Rev+11%3A2%3B+Dan+8%3A11%2C14%3B+Num+3%3A10++&version=NKJV

    There is no other Beast/organization – political or otherwise -  sanctioned by a false prophet, (Rev 13:12) that will come against God’s chosen people by using deceit, before Armageddon is finished.  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+13%3A12&version=NKJV

    Evil does not always appear ugly.  Please, wake up JWs! 

     

     

     

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    Can we imagine anyone attempting to subvert the position of High Priest, who is Jesus Christ?  Col 1:18; Heb 5:9,10; 7:26  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Col+1%3A18%3B+Heb+5%3A9%2C10%3B+7%3A26++&version=NKJV

    Does anyone try to stand in for Christ as High Priest?  Yes, the Governing Body.  Not true?  Well, they have assumed power over the anointed priesthood and judge their fellow servants as spiritually “dead” (disfellowshipped) for disagreeing with their doctrine.  Luke 21:12,13; John 16:2  Do they have the right to?  Matt 7:1,2; Rom 8:33,34; 14:4; James 4:12; 2 Cor 5:10    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+21%3A12%2C13%3B+John+16%3A2%3B+Matt+7%3A1%2C2%3B+Rom+8%3A33%2C34%3B+14%3A4%3B+James+4%3A12%3B+2+Cor+5%3A10++&version=NKJV

    According to scripture, a “faithful and discreet slave” is appointed over God’s House as a “steward”/administrator of services and spiritual gifts, derived from among the priesthood. Yes, from among the anointed priesthood – who are God’s Household.  Luke 12:42; Eph 2:19; 1 Tim 3:15; 5:8; Heb 3:4-6  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A42%3B+Eph+2%3A19%3B+1+Tim+3%3A15%3B+5%3A8%3B+Heb+3%3A4-6++&version=NKJV

    A ship or house steward oversees and manages all the various services performed, for the benefit of the household.  It is his or her job to administer all necessities produced, as well as provide the individual’s  own service, in keeping the household running smoothly.  The steward regulates and checks all presented by the staff, for quality and distribution. 

    If today, there is in place, a “faithful and discreet slave” chosen for this spiritual position, should the rest of the priesthood wait until God’s Kingdom arrives, to offer their services to the steward who administers the household? 

    No.  They should act as priests now; following their installed High Priest, Jesus Christ, and utilizing what gifts the Holy Spirit has given them, to be managed by the House Steward (see following comment)   All are to work in harmony as one anointed body.  1 Cor 12:7,8; Matt 25:14,22,23   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Cor+12%3A7%2C8%3B+Matt+25%3A14%2C22%2C23&version=NKJV

    This is not the case in the organization.  The anointed have been cajoled into believing they must wait until the Kingdom arrives before they serve in their priestly capacity.  But notice:

    “you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house, a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.” 2 Pet 2:5

    The scripture is not written in future tense, but it is to be enacted now.  Their offering of spiritual sacrifices comes from their own heart, not through the mouth of another. 

    “Therefore by Him let us continually offer the sacrifice of praise to God, that is, the fruit of our lips, giving thanks to His name.”  Heb 13:15

    A “wicked slave” uses its own false priesthood to distribute its own false “food”, which has created a famine of spiritual provisions that otherwise could nourish the sheep, if all priests were to contribute under the guidance of Holy Spirit from Christ. Luke 6:45; Ezek 34:17-19; Rev 8:10-11  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+6%3A45%3B+Ezek+34%3A17-19%3B+Rev+8%3A10-11++&version=NKJV

    Clearly, it must be discerned that the governing body is unable to offer spiritual food from Christ, since it has SEVERED itself from the Body and at the same time, acts as the Body’s Head!  Rom 12:3-5; 1 Cor 12:7,21,22,25,16; Col 2:18,19    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rom+12%3A3-5%3B+1+Cor+12%3A7%2C21%2C22%2C25%2C16%3B+Col+2%3A18%2C19++++&version=NKJV

    Instead of being “faithful” with all provisions within the House of God, and “discreet” in it usage, the GB rejects and judges God’s priestly members for their offerings.

    THEY HAVE CONTRAVENED THE ROLE OF JESUS CHRIST AS HIGH PRIEST.

    Can you see this, JWs?  I can hear you say; “how would the organization run on just a handful of anointed ones?  We NEED the elders to teach!” 

    Jesus knew beforehand the scenario to occur and affect the anointed ones in the time of the end.  The parable of the faithful and discreet slave chosen as steward over God’s House, warns of this.  Luke 12:37,45,47  We can’t look at it realistically on the one hand as being fulfilled, and then dismiss the possibility of a wicked one to arise, as the governing body is telling you.

    If a slave of Christ has been assigned over God’s true priestly Household to fulfill his duties as a priest, (Mal 2:7) why would the remaining anointed Body be told they are not to serve as priests until Armageddon is finished? Who would the House Steward be managing, if there are no fellow active priests to manage?  Who would be bringing forth their provisions to nourish and support the Body, as well as their hearers, which includes YOU, JWs?  1 Cor 12:12,27; Eph 4:11,12; 1 Cor 12:7; 1 Pet 4:10   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+12%3A37%2C45%2C47%3B+Mal+2%3A7%3B+1+Cor+12%3A12%2C27%3B+Eph+4%3A11%2C12%3B+1+Cor+12%3A7%3B+1+Pet+4%3A10&version=NKJV

    The governing body is only managing their un-anointed priesthood, who regurgitate what the wicked slave expects them to serve, sourced solely from their own mouth. 2 Cor 11:12,13; Rev 3:9; 2 Tim 3:13; Matt 24:24; Isa 28:8  

    Are they working under the true definition of the term, “steward”?  The anointed priesthood’s provisions are left untouched and ignored by the wicked steward.  Luke 16:2,3;2 Cor 9:6-12   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Cor+11%3A12%2C13%3B+Rev+3%3A9%3B+2+Tim+3%3A13%3B+Matt+24%3A24%3B+Isa+28%3A8%3B++Luke+16%3A2%2C3%3B+2+Cor+9%3A6-12&version=NKJV

    This priesthood and Body of Christ is God’s Temple. John 2:19-21;1 Cor 3:16,17  Do you believe it would have been acceptable for Gentiles to enter the ancient physical Temple of God?  Never!   2 Chron 13:9; 23:6; Ezek 44:6-9  Why would it be acceptable to God today for His Temple priesthood to submit themselves to “Gentile” rule – those who have not received the circumcision of the heart, to serve God in place of themselves?  Rom 2:29  Should their spiritual sacrifices be replaced by those not anointed? Dan 8:11,12   God’s priests in the organization allow this, without considering His view of this abomination against His “special possession” – His Temple.  2 Cor 11:4,20  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+2%3A19-21%3B1+Cor+3%3A16%2C17%3B+2+Chron+13%3A9%3B+23%3A6%3B+Ezek+44%3A6-9+%3B+Rom+2%3A29%3B+Dan+8%3A11%2C12%3B2+Cor+11%3A4%2C20&version=NKJV

    There are both present at the time of the end – a wicked slave and a faithful slave.  A counterfeit and an authentic faithful slave.  The counterfeit upholds his counterfeit “Zion” – the organization. Hab 2:19; Rev 8:8  

    The authentic slave teaches as Christ admonishes, in spirit and in truth.  John 4:23

    The authentic slave reveals this situation to all priests of the Household; whereas the wicked slave keeps his fellow slaves muffled and trampled down by his own false priesthood.  John 16:13; Rev 11:1-3; Matt 24:15; Dan 11:31,36; Matt 24:48,49; Luke 22:25,26; 2 Thess 2:4

    The authentic “faithful and discreet slave” cares for each member by warning them of the wicked one in their midst, admonishing them to separate and leave this task master behind.  2 Cor 6:14-18; Matt 24:15-18   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Hab+2%3A19%3B+Rev+8%3A8%3B+John+4%3A23%3B+John+16%3A13%3B+Rev+11%3A1-3%3B+Matt+24%3A15%3B+Dan+11%3A31%2C36%3B+Matt+24%3A48%2C49%3B+Luke+22%3A25%2C26%3B+2+Thess+2%3A4%3B+2+Cor+6%3A14-18%3B+Matt+24%3A15-18&version=NKJV

    You will know the two distinctly, by their fruits - their teachings -  not by what they build with money sourced in Satan’s world.   Matt 6:24  Jesus’ “belongings” are not only his sheep that must be cared for, but the spiritual gifts received through Holy Spirit and bestowed upon his servants; not earthly endeavors, as the Watchtower so deceitfully will tell you.  Matt 25:14;7:16-20; John 7:17;15:8; Matt 6:19-21; Luke 12:15-21

    You will find the faithful and discreet slave “where the eagles gather”, as a symbolic carcass “slain’ by the wicked slave and its false priesthood. Luke 17:31-37; Rev 12:6;13:1,5-8,11,14-17;11:3,7  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+6%3A24%3B+Matt+25%3A14%3B7%3A16-20%3B+John+7%3A17%3B15%3A8%3B+Matt+6%3A19-21%3B+Luke+12%3A15-21%3B+Luke+17%3A31-37%3B+Rev+12%3A6%3B13%3A1%2C5-8%2C11%2C14-17%3B11%3A3%2C7+&version=NKJV 

    This faithful slave isn’t found in another organization built in Satan’s realm.  Yet, how fitting it is to find a “wicked slave” consumed by greed, power and JWs continuous slavery, inhabiting his father’s realm – the world of confusion.  John 8:44; Amos 2:4; Rev 17:1-6; 18:4-8

    Christ feeds his sheep through his true ambassador, in abundance.  2 Cor 5:20; Matt 24:31; John 14:26; Rev 12:14 ;Matt 22:4,8-10; Rev 19:9   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+8%3A44%3B+Amos+2%3A4%3B+Rev+17%3A1-6%3B+18%3A4-8%3B+2+Cor+5%3A20%3B+Matt+24%3A31%3B+John+14%3A26%3B+Rev+12%3A14+%3BMatt+22%3A4%2C8-10%3B+Rev+19%3A9&version=NKJV

    The Watchtower August 2018 begins by stating:

    “As true Christians, we need to develop the ability to EVALUATE INFORMATION and reach ACCURATE CONCLUSIONS. (Prov. 3:21-23; 8:4, 5) If we do not cultivate this ability, we will be far more VULNERABLE to the efforts of Satan and his world to DISTORT our thinking. (Eph. 5:6; Col. 2:8) Of course, only if we have the facts can we reach RIGHT CONCLUSIONS. As Proverbs 18:13 says, “when anyone replies to a matter before he hears the facts, it is foolish and humiliating.” (caps mine)  

    The governing body navigates around their own wickedness and failure as a faithful steward, by distorting the definition of “God’s House”.  Note:

    This Watchtower quote conceals the “trampling” (Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4) of God’s Temple priesthood by including everyone in the spiritual Temple of God:   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A15%3B+2+Thess+2%3A3%2C4&version=NKJV

    “We all have a place in Jehovah’s house,” said the next speaker, Samuel Herd of the Governing Body. All Christians have a place in God’s “house” —his spiritual temple— the arrangement to worship him on the basis of Jesus’ ransom sacrifice. It is a place to be cherished as a precious privilege. Like David, we desire to “dwell in the house of Jehovah all the days of [our] life.” —Ps. 27:4.  w12 8/15 p. 17-18

    As the organization:

    “Jehovah’s witnesses give their support to God’s house or organization by their individual dedication vows and by their faithfulness in service.” Wt 56/11/1

     As the actual “Bethel”, the World Headquarters:

    “Each Bethel worker knows that his assignment in the “House of God” takes priority over other activities.”  Wt 94/6/15

    Down to the local kingdom hall:

    “For millions of Jehovah’s Witnesses, there is no place closer to their heart than their regular place of worship, the Kingdom Hall. They show proper respect for that place. They manifest an industrious spirit in caring for it, and they strive always to use it properly. May you too follow the admonition that Jehovah himself gives: “Guard your feet whenever you go to the house of the true God.” Wt 93/6/15

    You should be totally confused, JWs.  Simply, God’s House and Temple is the anointed Body of Christ. Eph 2:20-22; 2 Cor 6:14-18   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eph+2%3A20-22%3B+2+Cor+6%3A14-18&version=NKJV

    The scriptures I have sited are there for you to read and evaluate, to appropriately discern the FACTS. Please open your eyes and read them!  Satan appears as a minister of light.  2 Cor 11:12-15  He is a powerful expert at creating counterfeits that seem full of truth and light. We can recognize his ability to do so in our many walks through this life; but how much more so, can we be hoodwinked spiritually!  Luke 21:8; Acts 20:29; 2 Thess 2:9-12   He will reason in truth as the Watchtower quote has done, but will convince you to practice the lie, and take part in the trampling of God’s priesthood/Temple. Acts 7:57,58   His full intention is to deceive the anointed and you, through his own servants, before the Kingdom arrives.  Rev 13:11,14-17; 16:13-16  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Cor+11%3A12-15%3B++Luke+21%3A8%3B+Acts+20%3A29%3B+2+Thess+2%3A9-12%3B+Acts+7%3A57%2C58%3B+Rev+13%3A11%2C14-17%3B+16%3A13-16++++&version=NKJV

    When Christ walked the earth, Satan’s attempted to gain power over him.  Now, he has in position, fallen anointed ones who have accepted his offer and willingly carry out his plan. The governing body holds sway over the anointed Household assuming the role as High Priest.  The Watchtower is Satan’s last magnificent, yet clandestine death trap to bring down the last “kings of the earth” and the “nations“ residing with them.  Luke 4:5-7; Rev 8:10,11; Rev 13:7,8,12; 17:1,2,6; 6:15-17    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Luke+4%3A5-7%3B+Rev+8%3A10%2C11%3B+Rev+13%3A7%2C8%2C12%3B+17%3A1%2C2%2C6%3B+6%3A15-17&version=NKJV

    FLEE, JWS!  Matt 24:15,16; Luke 21:21  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt+24%3A15%2C16%3B+Luke+21%3A21&version=NKJV

    I hope you consider Pearl Doxsey's articles:  "Flee - Where?"

    Also, see "Who are the Kings of the Earth?"

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  15. 5 hours ago, Gone Away said:

    Romans 6:7 "For the one who has died has been acquitted from his sin."

    If this was true in all cases, there wouldn’t be a “judgment day”. 

    Paul is talking about becoming alive in Christ. 

    “What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? Certainly not! How shall we who died to sin live any longer in itOr do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? Therefore we were buried with Him through baptism into death, that just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.  Rom 6:1-4

     

    Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Himknowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him. 10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.  Rom 6:8-11

  16. On 4/7/2018 at 6:42 PM, Gone Away said:

    The task of preparing and distributing spiritual food is clearly carried out under the oversight of the Governing Body.

    One thing is missing, the role of the House (Eph 2:19) "Steward".  If this steward refuses to distribute all provisions from the entire anointed Body, he has wasted spiritual provisions in the form of gifts given to all anointed.  When this happens in practice - when anointed ones approach the GB about their wayward teachings, what happens?  They are "punished" - disfellowshipped. Luke 16:1-15  Administrators are an evident assignment in the Body, but they are not the only teachers.  1 Cor 12:4,7,8,10,11,14,15,20,21,25,27,28

    Thus, the GB fulfills the role of the "wicked slave" who "beats" his fellow slaves.  Matt 24:48-51

    And, they have smooth-talked every JW into believing their lie.  

     

  17. "Yes, the WT is being presented as a work of God. It claims to establish provenance, by pointing to the supposed existence of a governing body in the first century. We as JWs, bought into that counterfeit, by selling our souls in exchange for a beautiful depiction of a promise of salvation, framed within the confines of the organization. 
    Jesus foresaw this masterful counterfeit as a feature of the Great Tribulation, and his first warning words to us, were "See to it that no one misleads you" (Matt.24:3-4,24-25)  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matt.24%3A3%2C4%2C24%2C25&version=NKJV

    The final false prophet, is handed a key to Satan's Abyss of dark deception (Rev.8:10-11; 9:1-3), enabling it to perform the sorcery of powerful misleading signs and portents, as she released Satan from his imprisonment, to work through her and her beast" (Rev.16:13-16; 17:14; 20:7-8; 13:11-18,7-8; 1Tim.4:1; Col.2:8; Rev.13:10; Luke21:24; Rev.13:7; 11:2).    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev.8%3A10-11%3B+9%3A1-3%3BRev.16%3A13-16%3B+17%3A14%3B+20%3A7-8%3B+13%3A11-18%2C7-8%3B+1Tim.4%3A1%3B+Col.2%3A8%3B+Rev.13%3A10%3B+Luke+21%3A24%3B+Rev.13%3A7%3B+11%3A2&version=NKJV

    Pearl Doxsey

  18. My mother was a “plein air” artist, and although it sounds rather sophisticated, this artist scraped for every brush and tube of paint she could get.  When raising five children, I am sure her love of painting conflicted with the necessary care of her offspring.  Many times, it was evident that the artwork took precedence, especially when dinner’s aromas were overpowered by the lingering fumes of the day’s use of turpentine; a sure sign that an unfinished piece of art was given top priority.

     Her philosophy was, never copy another artist’s work; that of a well-known painter, or otherwise.

    As a girl, I was frequently in tow with father, mother, little brother, art supplies and camping gear piled in the back of a station wagon, and heading for the mountains.  Other artists would arrive for the ‘art fest’ over the weekend.  As they readied themselves before the scene to be painted, their own unique tools, color choices, and techniques emerged to achieve what they envisioned of the natural scene before them.  Even through my young eyes, I could clearly understand the intent of each artist’s desire to capture the scene.  Mountains, plains, trees, sage, water were all identifiable from a different, but recognizable perspective. No one owned the scene, only the work and technique they used, to illustrate what they perceived. 

    Art forgery is a different matter. The intent is to deceive and pilfer the unsuspecting one into thinking they are buying the original piece of art.  In the case of copied works by the famous “Masters”, detailed analysis using microscopes and x-rays detects the evidence of modern paints and materials.  Also, extensive, historical research is applied to identify a forgery.

    Note the comments made by an article on art forgery:

    “Regardless of what technique is used, every authentication starts with determining whether a work has a provenance, which is THE RECORD OF A WORK’S OWNERSHIP HISTORY. Ideally, THE RECORD SHOULD STRETCH ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE WORK’S CREATION.

    “Unfortunately, an unidentified forgery will accumulate its own provenance the longer it goes undiscovered, so the provenance becomes INCREASINGLY REINFORCED AS TIME PASSES. Forgers will often take advantage of the loose provenance by creating an ILLUSION of provenance along with forging the work. THEY WILL BUILD A FRAUDULENT IDENTITY for the work with fake documents and staged photographs. The longer the forgery goes undetected, the harder it may be to detect that the documents are not genuine.”   (https://alj.orangenius.com/techniques-art-forgery/)

    False prophets are common, but could a spiritual counterfeit picture of “truth” be painted in order to rob an individual not only of their physical investments but of their spiritual life?  Let’s briefly put the Watchtower under a microscope using a valid historical record, the Bible, and see what its “provenance” shows.  At one point it made the comment,

    "As Christians, we face up to similar challenges today. We cannot take part in any modern version of idolatry—be it worshipful gestures toward an image or symbol or the imputing of SALVATION to a person or an ORGANIZATION." Watchtower 1990 11/1 p. 26 Our Relative Subjection to the Superior Authorities

    This is a similar stand of CT Russell when first gathering his Bible Students, when he said, Beware of ‘organization’.  It is wholly unnecessary.  The Bible rules will be the only rules you need”.  Wt 9/15/1895

    What about a statement made BEFORE the 1990 WT. quote? 

    WT. 10/1/1967 p. 591:   "Make haste TO IDENTIFY THE VISIBLE THEOCRATIC ORGANIZATION of God that represents his king, Jesus Christ. IT IS ESSENTIAL FOR LIFE. Doing so, be complete in accepting its every aspect”

    Watchtower appears to be staging some confusing fake documents, at whatever angle we look at it.  Which quote is genuine, which is a lie?  They both carry their own lying qualities.  Today, the Watchtower has completed painting its illusion of a spirit-directed organization providing a spiritual paradise to lead you into God’s Kingdom.   2 Thess 2:1-4; Jer 8:11; 14:13-14; 28:8,9

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thess+2%3A1-4%3B+Jer+8%3A11%3B+14%3A13-14%3B+28%3A8%2C9&version=NIV

    Watchtower 16/11 pg 16-20:

    BE LOYAL TO JEHOVAH AND SUPPORT HIS ORGANIZATION - “Yes, if we are LOYAL to Jehovah and follow the direction he gives us by means of his organization, HE WILL GIVE US EVERLASTING LIFE and he will be loyal to us forever!” 

    WT 15/8/15 pg 15-20:

    PREPARE NOW FOR LIFE IN THE NEW WORLD -  “If we want to be ready for life in the new world, we need to learn to be CONTENT and to COOPERATE with Jehovah’s ORGANIZATION and with one another.

    To prepare for everlasting life in the new world, we need to OBEY the direction from Jehovah’s ORGANIZATION now.” Wt 15/8/15  pg 15-20

    Concisely, a JW must:

    BE LOYAL TO THE ORGANIZATION

    FOLLOW AND OBEY THE DIRECTION OF THE ORGANIZATION

    LEARN TO BE CONTENT WITH THE ORGANIZATION

    LEARN TO COOPERATE WITH THE ORGANIZATION

    This is now your solid, established teaching, JWs.  The requirement held out for everlasting life, according to the Watchtower is total reliance on, and devotion to, the organization; along with a spurious, idolatrous attempt made, to link it with God.  Isa 46:5; Rev 13:1,5-8 The necessity of the organization has been a gradual development within the last 100 years; a provenance that has now come under scrutiny. Rev 16:13-16; Ezek 8:6; Amos 7:8; Rev 11:1  Of course, we believe that the faithful early Christians received salvation.  What about God’s anointed ones and believers over the centuries since Christ, in various parts of the world?  JWs, we know there was no “organization” that TRUE Christians relied on as one’s salvation throughout the centuries. Rev 20:4  Or, do you feel there was not a single soul that was faithful to God and Christ after the formation of the early congregations, UNTIL the Watchtower organization emerged?  Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,4,10   https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Isa+46%3A5%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C5-8%3B+Rev+16%3A13-16%3B+Ezek+8%3A6%3B+Amos+7%3A8%3B+Rev+11%3A1%3B+20%3A4%3B+Col+2%3A8%3B+Rev+13%3A1%2C4%2C10&version=NIV

    It appears a wrench has been thrown into the working out of our salvation; and indeed, this is the case.  Ask yourself, where is Christ in all of this organization business?  When Jesus said, “destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days”, did he mean that an earthly, man-made corporation decked out with major complexes world-wide and modern-day synagogues was to be established 1900 years later? 

    “BUT HE WAS SPEAKING OF THE TEMPLE OF HIS BODY.  So when he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they BELIEVED THE SCRIPTURE and the STATEMENT Jesus had made.”  John 2:19-22

    Does this “temple” require money and physical upkeep?  Does it require any earthly goods whatsoever?  Phil 3:18,19 

    “For you know that it was NOT with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors, but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or defect. 

     He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake. THROUGH HIM you believe in God, who raised him from the dead and glorified him, and so your faith and hope are in God.”  1 Pet 1:18-21

    According to scripture, an earthly organization established with your “silver and gold” is not Bible-based as necessary for salvation.  Exod 32:8,4; Isa 42:8; Rom 1:20-22,25; Acts 4:12 

    We are revealing a case of forgery; a counterfeit “Mount Zion”, the Temple of God. (Heb 12:22,23)  It appears so incredibly authentic that God’s Chosen ones and companions have been lulled into passivity by its illustrious beauty and promise of peace if one remains within its picture.  1 Thess 5:3  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Phil+3%3A18%2C19%3B+Exod+32%3A8%2C4%3B+Isa+42%3A8%3B+Rom+1%3A20-22%2C25%3B+Acts+4%3A12%3B+Heb+12%3A22%2C23%3B+1+Thess+5%3A3++&version=NIV

    From Pearl Doxsey’s article, “What’s Wrong with Peace and Security”?

    “Is this perception of present peace and security accurate?
    What is the danger of feeling safe from Satan due to the supposed spiritual shelter of an organization?

    Prophecy tells us that when Satan makes his final attack against the woman's seed,
    they do not expect the attack, nor perceive their vulnerability (Eze.38:11,14Jer.49:31)
    Can you see that this overlaps with the period where the leaders of God's people are falsely declaring peace and security? (Eze.13:16Rev.13:11,41Thess.5:3)
    Because of their drowsy, overconfident condition, they are deceived and conquered (Rev.13:79:5,10Matt.5:13Rev.11:212:4Dan.8:10,11,12,132Thess.2:4).”    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Eze.38%3A11%2C14%3B+Jer.49%3A31%3BEze.13%3A16%3B+Rev.13%3A11%2C4%3B+1Thess.5%3A3%3BRev.13%3A7%3B+9%3A5%2C10%3B+Matt.5%3A13%3B+Rev.11%3A2%3B+12%3A4%3B+Dan.8%3A10%2C11%2C12%2C13%3B+2Thess.2%3A4&version=NIV

    Now, on to Pearl’s  “An Illustration”:

    “Satan knows he cannot prevent the prophetic SPIRITUAL signs and events which Jesus foretold for the end, from coming to pass (Rev.12:4,5,12,13).
    Satan realizes that the only way to prevent the remnant from grasping hold of the life-saving warnings, is to stage a counterfeit earlier fulfillment (Rev.12:15,913:9,10,11,14Matt.24:4,5,23,482Thess.2:2) both religious and secular. He has the power to do so (1John5:19). Satan hopes that the remnant who are searching for the truthful interpretations of unfolding end-time events,
    will be detoured, by Satan's own premature counterfeit "fulfillment" (2Thess.2:2,3,11Matt.7:1524:4,8,11,13,24Rev.13:11).

    Satan cannot change nor fulfill the true SPIRITUAL signs Jesus gave. But he can fabricate a decoy within his own physical, visible realm, which IS under his power (Rev.2:9Eph.6:12John12:31).
    He must do this before the True signs arrive.
    Yet, he cannot fabricate a counterfeit for EVERY single true prophetic spiritual detail that Jesus gave.

    Will the chosen notice these discrepancies? Will they prove attentive enough to prove wise, faithful, awake, sober, and discreet?”

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev.12%3A4%2C5%2C12%2C13%3BRev.12%3A15%2C9%3B+13%3A9%2C10%2C11%2C14%3B+Matt.24%3A4%2C5%2C23%2C48%3B+2Thess.2%3A2%3B1+John+5%3A19%3B2Thess.2%3A2%2C3%2C11%3B+Matt.7%3A15%3B+24%3A4%2C8%2C11%2C13%2C24%3B+Rev.13%3A11%3BRev.2%3A9%3B+Eph.6%3A12%3B+John12%3A31&version=NIV

    (This article is a valuable first step in understanding end time prophesy concerning God’s chosen/anointed people.)

    The article on art forgery said, “Finding a forgery can cast doubt on the authenticators and damage the reputation of the sellers”. 

    The “two witnesses” of Rev 11:3, who work for Christ, reveal the authenticity of the Body of Christ as God’s Temple Zion and expose the Watchtower organization and its Harlot leaders for what they are -fakes, who paint with layers of lies. Ezek 13:10-12; Matt 23:12, 27; John 16:13; Rev.2:29    JWs!  As companion “sellers” of the Watchtower and its “good news”, your reputation with the Head of the anointed Body – Christ – will continue to deteriorate!  Sadly, many doubt the authenticity of Christ’s anointed “two witnesses” whose job it is to draw attention to this forgery.  Zech 4:3,11,14; Matt 10:20; 2 Cor 10:4,5    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Rev+11%3A3%3BEzek+13%3A10-12%3B+Matt+23%3A12%2C+27%3B+John+16%3A13%3B+Rev.2%3A29%3BZech+4%3A3%2C11%2C14%3B+Matt+10%3A20%3B+2+Cor+10%3A4%2C5%3B+&version=NIV

    Art forgery can be a federal and state offense.  What will happen to the Watchtower for its blasphemous offense before God?  Scripture tells us - Zech 4:7; Rev 8:8 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Zech+4%3A7%3B+Rev+8%3A8&version=NIV

    I am sure you will say the organization is necessary in spreading the “good news of the kingdom”; yet, the good news is, the false promise of peace and security has been exposed, stopping short any further deceit and pilfering to come against the anointed (“Jacob”) and their companions who see it as it is – an illusion. 2 Thess 2:9-12  They come forth eagerly desiring to shed Watchtower’s sins and to accept freely, the Truth from Christ.  The authentic works of the Father and Christ have been found by those with keen understanding and eyes that see. God has redeemed His people.  Matt 7:7; 10:6, 1 Cor 1:28,29; Isa 48:20; Rev 18:4-8  https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2+Thess+2%3A9-12%3BMatt+7%3A7%3B+10%3A6%2C+1+Cor+1%3A28%2C29%3B+Isa+48%3A20%3B+Rev+18%3A4-8&version=NIV

    Other articles are found on Pearl’s blog:

    YHWH’S GENUINE MOUNTAIN

    ORIGIN OF DARKNESS/”GOOD NEWS”/WOMAN’S SON

    4womaninthewilderness

     

  19. On 4/4/2018 at 3:16 PM, tromboneck said:

    See Brother Splane's discussion on "How does the governing body arrive at their decisions" on JW Broadcating. So, as has been explained decisions are not made unilaterrialy but as a group, over time, and not without help from others. However, the final decision is their's to make. 

    David Splane – “Decisions of the Faithful and Discreet Slave”

    “The Governing Body loves to get together and discuss the bible, and when those bibles come out on the table, and when the brothers bring their research in, and they’re starting to search the scriptures and analyze the scriptures, you see the happiest smiles on their faces.

    The brothers love discussing spiritual things.

    But the clarifications are often a long time in coming into print. Why. Because the clarification on one scripture can have a domino effect on others.
    The clarification on one scripture can have ramifications on other prophesies. SO WE HAVE TO BE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT EVERYTHING FITS.

    So, to reiterate, although certain changes may be announced one after another, these decisions are thought out very carefully.

    Here’s an interesting side point. The older members of the GB, Brother Jaracz, Brother Barr were just as interested in making the adjustments as the younger members were. They were very progressive.”

    On becoming privy to the process of how the GB reaches decisions, we discern just what truly is their priority. There is no mention of Holy Spirit guiding these men, no articulation made of a prayerful interchange; but as we can see, their own “thoughts” are the driving force to change.

    “So we have to be absolutely sure everything fits”. Whose puzzle are they building, one crafted by men, or do they carry the wisdom of God?

    Has Christ yet to hand them the missing piece of their own thought-provoking puzzle? 
    Time and projected failures prove that their puzzle is becoming more disheveled by the moment.

    “For it is written: “I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate. Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?” 1 Cor 1:19,20

    Please, JWs, think of how the apostles were led, and how they never failed to acknowledge the Holy Spirit that filled their HEART. 2 Cor 1:21,22; 2 Tim 1:14 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…

    “These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. “ 1 Cor 2:13,14

    Any of us can research the Bible, but if these men are teaching millions to rely on the Holy Spirit to direct them in GodÂ’s Word, shouldnÂ’t they also prove that they do the same?

    “BUT THE THINGS THAT COME OUT OF A PERSON’S MOUTH COME FROM THE HEART, and these defile them. For out of the heart come evil thoughts—murder, adultery, sexual immorality, theft, FALSE TESTIMONY, slander.” Matt 15:18,19

    The words of David Splane verify what inhabits the hearts of the Governing Body. Even wicked thoughts bring smiles, to those with evil intentions.

    "Scoundrels use wicked methods,
    they make up evil schemes
    to destroy the poor with lies,
    even when the plea of the needy is just." Isa 32:7

    “Leave them; they are blind guides. If the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matt 15:14

     

     

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  20.  

    On 4/21/2018 at 5:36 AM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    In this case, the two Plaintiffs were sexually abused as children by a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Elders in the local Jehovah’s Witness congregation in Thompson Falls, Montana were aware of the abuse and failed to report it to the police, choosing instead to handle the reports and investigations internally pursuant to Jehovah’s Witness guidelines. Their decision not to report the abuse to authorities allowed the perpetrator to remain in the congregation and continue to abuse one of the Plaintiffs.

     

    Throughout this case, and similar childhood sexual abuse cases across the country, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have refused to produce documents related to their internal handling of reports of sexual abuse and related investigations and disciplinary actions claiming that the information is protected by the clergy-penitent privilege and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution.

    Sorry.  This is what I was generally reacting to.  There is no support for the "weak", the victims of abuse.  I see the governing body/organization on the receiving end of donations, time, energy, the slaving of members including the very victims they refuse to give protection from pedophiles.   Even in a court of law the org. refuse to "give".   

    Yet, the GB will tell you how much 'giving' they have done for the sheep by providing failed "food at the proper time".

    It is sheer hypocrisy.  

    In the long run, the "recalcitrant contrarians" will have to face Christ for their actions.  

  21.  

    On 4/21/2018 at 5:36 AM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

    On April 5, 2018, Judge James Manley of Sanders County, Montana ordered the Jehovah’s Witnesses religious organization to produce documents and testimony related to internal reports and investigations into the childhood sexual abuse of NPR’s two clients.

     

    I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”  Acts 20:35

     

  22. I could address an entire article and you would have problems with it.  I reposted this under Bible Discussion since it has been buried under "controversial posts":    https://www.theworldnewsmedia.org/forums/topic/55510-korahs-rebellion-and-the-watchtower/

    Eph 4:11-13 This pertains to the anointed Body of Christ, the Temple of God.1 Cor 3:16,17  Are any recognized beyond the governing body as having the various gifts to upbuild the Body?  NO.  These gifts are signified as bestowed on a “Gentile” elder body which is NOT ACCORDING TO SCRIPTURE.  Matt 24:15; 1 Thess 2:3,4 ; Rev 13:5-8;  Ezek 44:6-9

    You are not recognizing this, nor are most all other JWs.  You see a false priesthood as blessed by God to lead the congregations, forgetting that God already chose His priesthood.  Isa 43:10;1 Pet 2:5,9

    You say,

    You continue to echo the pattern of the Pharisees, and I HOPE one day, you will understand, you do a “disservice” to your proclamation of being one of Christ followers, by your personal actions and attacks! John 10:1-21, Matt 23:1-12, Mark 12:38-40; Lk 20:45-47

    Jesus had no problem warning his people of the Pharisees.  So, to be Christ-like I too, will warn my people of today’s “Pharisees” – of the GB’s “leaven” (unscriptural doctrine) and the heavy burdens put upon JWs in the form of service to an idol, dress codes, how a kingdom hall should be cared for and cleaned, even the amount of donations to be expected by individuals in the congregations. Isa 28:10; Col 2:20-23; Rev 11:1-3  All spiritual provisions must be bought and paid for by service to an idol.  Rev 13:17   Go back to Haggai 1:6.  Everything you do for the organization and its leadership rewards you with a “bag of holes”.  Watchtower’s rotten fruit is nothing to bank on.   

    “Blind guides, who strain out a gnat and swallow a camel!”  Matt 23:24

    Summoning the crowd, he told them, “Listen and understand: 11 It’s not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth—this defiles a person.”

    12 Then the disciples came up and told him, “Do you know that the Pharisees took offense when they heard what you said?”

    Which seems you have the same problem with my accusations against the GB. 

    13 He replied, “Every plant that my heavenly Father didn’t plant will be uprooted. 14 Leave them alone! They are blind guides.  And if the blind guide the blind, both will fall into a pit.”

    15 Then Peter said, “Explain this parable to us.”

    16 “Do you still lack understanding?” he asked. 17 “Don’t you realize that whatever goes into the mouth passes into the stomach and is eliminated?18 But what comes out of the mouth comes from the heart, and this defiles a person.

    Preaching failed and changed doctrine does not build up, but defiles and erodes one’s faith. 

     19 For from the heart come evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, sexual immoralities, thefts, false testimonies, slander. 20 These are the things that defile a person; but eating with unwashed hands does not defile a person.”  Matt 15:10-20

    Should God’s anointed priesthood obey men who parrot falsehoods and who are not part of the anointed Body of Christ? This would be unscriptural.  Jer 14:14; 2 Cor 11:4,20; 2 Tim 2:26; Rev 13:7

    Should you?  All Watchtower’s leaders are blind guides.  Not one of their predictions has come true. Only those spiritually deceived to the point of drunkenness would call a lie, the truth.  2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 17:1-6; Jer 25:27-29; Rev 18:3,4

    Allen, please – I beg all JWs to recognize the true Zion/Temple of God as the anointed one and not an earthly organization or its buildings.    This corporation is Satan’s master plan to destroy these “kings”; thus, the war of Armageddon is Satan and his “kings” warring against Christ and those owned by him.  You are witnessing this war as you read this.   It is a war of truth against lies.  Think about it, Christ exposed the Pharisees for their lies.  It has always been a spiritual battle of truth against lies, and prophecy has always concerned those in covenant with God.  John 8:44; Eph 6:12; Rev 1:5; 16:12-16; 6:15

    Simply, Watchtower’s teachers are experts at covering over their lies.  Allen, you have a vast knowledge of scripture, and through scripture, we know that the apostles and all anointed who will “rule” with Christ, must be as blameless as he is.  Phil 2:15; Ps 119:1; Rev 14:5  They must be refined, they must repent of all falsehoods and idolatrous motives, and rely completely on Christ. Mal 3:1-3  Each one must “buy” their spiritual provisions from only him.  Matt 25:1-13; Rev 3:18  Each one must treat the other as his “member” – cherishing that person as himself; whether male or female. 1 Cor 12:20-26; Gal 3:28  The care and love for each anointed member doesn’t exist with the governing body who marks one as an outcast for refusing their human doctrine. John 16:2,3; Matt 10:18; 1 John 3:10-12; Rev 13:11-17  It cannot be manifested when the anointed are told to remain apart from one another.  The governing body members have no regard or love for their “fellow slave”.  Matt 24:48-51 

    John 10:1-21 – Who is the door, the Watchtower or Jesus? 

     

     

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