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  1. If the “wicked” are disfellowshipped by the elder body, are they still considered spiritually “alive” in God’s eyes? (John 16:2)  And, what is the definition of “wicked” according to the Wt?  More times than one can count, it is the rejection of your idol, your organization, its wicked slave and its false teachings.  That is not the Bible's definition of wickedness, and it can lead to repentance from idolatry; loving God and Jesus instead of an organization built with riches that is destined to fall.

    Here’s an example of what I’m talking about:

    “But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. “  Dan 11:38

    Donations, donations, donations are now stressed as a requirement.  JWs are not honoring God with their “valuable things” which is translated as earthly riches instead of the appreciation of truth in Christ’s teachings (Prov 10:22; Luke 12:33-34); they are honoring a god of fortresses - "Jehovah's organization",  with all those donations, earthly riches .

    Zech 9:3-4 - For Tyre built herself a tower,
    Heaped up silver like the dust,
    And gold like the mire of the streets.
    Behold, the Lord will cast her out;
    He will destroy her power in the sea,
    And she will be devoured by fire.

    “The fruit that your soul longed for has gone from you, and all the things which are rich and splendid have gone from you, and you shall find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, who became rich by her, will stand at a distance for fear of her torment, weeping and wailing, 16 and saying, ‘Alas, alas, that great city that was clothed in fine linen, purple, and scarlet, and adorned with gold and precious stones and pearls! 17 For in one hour such great riches came to nothing.’ Every shipmaster, all who travel by ship, sailors, and as many as trade on the sea, stood at a distance 18 and cried out when they saw the smoke of her burning, saying, ‘What is like this great city?’”  Rev 18:14-18

    And what about disfellowshipping?

     He also declares, at Revelation 3:16 (NW😞 “So, because you are lukewarm and neither hot nor cold, I am going to vomit you out of my mouth.” Well, that is a disfellowshiping. Christ Jesus is not going to have any lukewarm persons permanently in his organization. You are either for him or against him. You will either come into the congregation of the Lord God and be his minister or eventually go out into the Devil’s organization. You cannot pussyfoot. You cannot be lukewarm. You cannot be passive. You have to be positively for the Lord God. w52 3/1 p. 137-138

    Where is the devil’s organization?  It is where false predictions and false doctrine are taught as “truth”, which is clearly an act of sorcery, of wickedness against any who are deceived by such teachings!  (Rev 18:23; Matt 24:24,25; 2 Cor 11:4,13-15; 1 Tim 4:1)

    Who “kills” the holy people today?  Who calls them “wicked” for turning completely to the teachings of Jesus and pointing to falsehoods that the GB uphold?  Who is responsible for shedding spiritual “blood”?  Notice Rev 18:24 –And in her was found the blood of prophets and saints, and of all who were slain on the earth.”

    The Pharisees, the Jews, physically killed the prophets and the saints for speaking the truth of Christ.  Christendom doesn’t know who they are in order to kill them today, but “Israel” – your harlot leaders do. (Rev 17:6,13-15) They send their “Gentile” elders out to disfellowship, to judge, to deem individuals as “wicked” for rejecting a lying idol. (Matt 24:48-51)   It’s your leaders who are responsible for blaspheming the Holy Spirit, by refusing to listen to the warnings from Christ. (Rev 11:1-3,7)  The evidence is right before your eyes in the scriptures.  (Rev 3:18; 16:13-16)

    What is Jesus’ “organization”?  It is built with “living stones” of the royal priesthood – an “administration”/spiritual Temple that will “come down out of heaven” as His Bride. (Rom 8:18-21; Zech 4:6-7; Rev 21:1-4)

    It is Mount Zion, the dwelling of God in the hearts of the anointed. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) 

    Rev 18:4-8 does not apply to early leaders/members of your organization coming out of Christendom, it applies right now to God’s holy people, “Israel”, and those with them, to come out of Satan’s “spirit-directed organization”/Beast that daily “makes war” against them, trampling these living stones to the ground.    (Dan 9:23;11:31; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,4-8,11,12, 15,10)

    The message is sent to “Israel” before the return of Jesus Christ.  (Matt 10:23; 23:34) God judges the world in righteousness, but His wrath comes upon His own people in the last days. 

    If JWs love their “beloved organization”/fortress/salvation more than they love God and His Son, then it is they who are committing an atrocity, a blasphemy against the Father and the Son. God sees right through the hearts of each one of us.  Every act of deception by your leaders committed against His “saints”, against victims of abuse, and evil judgment and neglect performed against any, will be brought to light. (John 3:19; Eph 5:8-14)

  2. “No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and riches.”  Luke 16:13

     “We now come to the matter of being loyal to Jehovah’s visible organization.”  Wt. 1996/3/15, p. 16-17

     

    In 1994, the family moved to the shores of a beautiful lake nestled in the Sierra Mountains.  Our first house was provided as a temporary dwelling through my husband’s employment with the park system and was located on the shores of the lake. It was late spring when we settled in, and the lake was getting busy with a progressive throng of tourists lounging on its warm sands.  At the peak of summer, large and small boats and various craft were creating competing waves on its expansive surface.

    When autumn arrived, the din of activity died down, and the boats were stored away for safe keeping through the coming winter months. It was during those days that the lake exuded a tranquility of what it must have been like hundreds of years ago, without humans in massive numbers invading its shores and body during the warm months of the year.  

    This is when one’s sense of time is altered while sitting on the lakeshore.  The gentlest of breezes would bring small waves overlapping one another, as they washed away the abandoned footprints of summer left on the sand.  The lake’s calming music carried on the gentle ripples was all that could be heard.  At rare times, it appeared to be like glass with colors of emerald and deep blue shimmering in the sun.  We eventually found a place of our own where we would call home; yet tears were shed when leaving the peace behind that the lake had gifted all of us during those brief, quiet months.

    When I was reading Nehemiah chapter 9 recently, I was thinking of how the prayerful story it tells, comes to us on gentle breezes of God’s Spirit, creating wavelets of memories that remind us of what we had been through as JWs; from the years spent in the organization, followed by many of us getting “killed” through disfellowshipping for defending the truth in Christ, and now where we are today.  (Matt 10:18-20,37-39; Mark 8:35; John 16:2; Rev 13:5; James 5:24; James 1:12)

    Our story is chronological; but Nehemiah’s account, although also chronological, can apply to our experiences through a medley of converging storytelling and counsel, that washes away our previous footprints as we followed men while living in confusion, lies and the sin of idolatry. (Jer 4:14; Isa 1:16; 1 Cor 6:9-11)

    In the organization, our faith was formulated by the adulterated waters/teachings of false prophets. ( John 4:14;7:38; Luke 6:45;Matt 7:15,20; Deut 29:18; 2 Pet 3:17; Rev 8:10,11; 17:1,15; 13:11,12)

    It was a wearisome job to keep our spiritual and mental outlook “moving ahead” with the direction the visible organization would take. Injecting our own personal doubts, would be rejecting the direction of the invisible, “Jehovah’s chariot”.  Like a hamster running on a wheel, we were constantly treading water to keep afloat in the tumultuous “Sea Beast” of Revelation 13:1, that worked under power bestowed by the “dragon”. Its false prophets “exercised authority” on its behalf.  (2 Cor 11:13-15; Revelation 13:1-2,4-5,8,11-12; Jer 5:30-31).  

    Nehemiah tells us that the conclusion of restoring Jerusalem’s wall once Israel was released from captivity in Babylon, was a time of celebration and a restoration of following God’s word. (Neh 1:3,7-9; 8:9-12,17)  Ezra the priest, read from the book of the law, explaining its meaning so that all Israel understood the law, that had many centuries earlier been brought down from Mount Sinai by Moses.  (Neh. 8:2,5,8) The Levites began with exaltation and praise for what God had done for His wayward people. They called for Israel’s repentance of sins. Their prayer to the Lord recaps the story of Abraham, and the promises God made to his seed.  They spoke of the nation of Israel leaving Egypt, which scriptures refers to as the “iron furnace”.  (Deut 4:20; Jer 11:1-4) They proclaimed the blessings that God provided His people when in the wilderness, and then related the times of idolatry when Israel became “stiff-necked” and rebelled against God’s commandments.

    (See Nehemiah chapter 9, Psalm 106; Acts 7:1-53)

    When worshipping the golden calf brazenly created to “go before” the nation of Israel, we are told that God’s children under covenant, “changed (or ‘exchanged’) their Glory”, their Almighty God, “with an image of an ox that eats grass”.  (Ps 106:20; 89:17)  Israel desired to “move ahead” with a god they crafted with their own hands. (Exod 20:3-6; Jonah 2:8; Acts 7:40-41; 1 Cor 10:7)

    Yes, we too fell into idolatry when in the Wt. We exchanged the glory of God for an earthly organization built by men  – symbolically described as a Wild Beast from the Sea that required our loyalty, dedication, sacrifices and “worship”. (Rom 1:20-25; 1 Tim 4:1; Ps 106:37; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,4,10)

    But what caught my attention in Nehemiah chapter 9, was the account of Moses receiving the laws of God on Mount Sinai.  I was motivated to consider the meaning of “Sinai” and was surprised at what I found.  The name “Sinai” is derived from “sin-ah”, which means “hatred”, a description that traditionally applies to other nations despising the nation of Israel that received God’s decrees.  (See Strong's #8135)

    Breaking down the root origins, we have “storehouse” and “thorn bush”, or “thorn”.  “Clay”/”muddy” is another meaning.  On Mount Sinai, God performed incredible miracles that Moses witnessed.  A “storehouse” of wisdom was given to him; to a people that God called the “clay” and He, the Potter. (Jer 18:6; Isa 64:8; Rom 9:21)

    The various events that happened on Mount Sinai, tell a story about His chosen people that the scriptures have preserved, and definitely apply in a symbolic way to God’s spiritual “Israel” in the anointed today. These are ancient lessons that God’s people have failed to pay attention to. (Rom 15:4; 1 Cor 10:6; 2 Pet 1:19)

    Although “New Jerusalem” represents the New Covenant promise in Jesus, we find God’s anointed priests in the organization transgressing their covenant with God, by falling into idolatry. (2 King 17:14-15; Isa 24:5; Ps 78:10; Hos 8:1; 2 Cor 11:2-4; Gal 4:24-26)

    The result is slavery to a ruthless nation that exudes hatred toward God’s spiritual Jews in the anointed ones – a nation that can be compared to locusts, scorpions, briers, and thorns; providing us with a complete descriptive picture of affliction experienced by God’s people in the organization. (Isa 5:5-6; Hos 10:8; Prov 24:31; Heb 6:8; Joel 1:6,4; Joel 2:3; Isa 32:12-13; Col 2:8; Rev 9:1-5,10; Rev 13:1-2,4-7)

    This hateful and jealous nation which has highjacked the priestly role of the anointed, is the “man of lawlessness”, comprised of the elder body. “Foreigners” or “Gentiles” have trampled God’s anointed dwelling/Temple of His Spirit. (Ezek 44:6-9; Dan 7:23; Matt 24:15,16; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; 2 Thess 2:3,4)


    How could such a thing happen to a spiritual people who believe they live safely in truth, security, and love?   (Matt 24:24,25; Luke 17:23; 21:8; Dan 8:23-25; Ezek 38:11; Prov 15:19; Luke 19:44; 1 Thess 5:3)

    They chose to accept the message of false teachers. (Deut 30:15-20; Luke 21:8; 2 Thess 2:1-4) All of us were purposefully deceived and led into a trap devised by the devil. (Luke 22:31; 2 Cor 11:4,13-15; 2 Pet 2:1-4; Col 2:8; Rev 13:11,14,10) 

    JWs realize that the anointed “Israel” are solely found in their organization, which can be likened to its own “storehouse”, or library of rotten fruit tucked behind its logo. (Matt 7:15-20) These demonic teachings have filled their hearts, their spiritual storehouse, pushing aside the gift of truth in God’s word that was written on the heart upon the anointing.  (Mal 3:10; Matt 6:20; John 8:31-32;17:17; Rom 5:5; 2 Cor 1:22; 4:6; John 15:4; 1 John 2:27; Heb 8:10)

    Matt 24:4-5 -  “Watch out, and do not let anyone fool you. 5 Many men, claiming to speak for me, will come and say, ‘I am the Messiah!’ and they will fool many people.”

    Today, the deception is so fine-tuned, that Satan’s polished trap has deceived every anointed one in existence, since the Watchtower’s inception.  (Dan 10:14; Ezek 38:14-16; Acts 20:29-31; Jude 1:4,10; 2 Tim 3:6-9; 2 Thess 2:1-4; Rev 20:7-9)  

    John tells us:  "Then I saw three unclean spirits that looked like frogs. They were coming out of the mouth of the dragon, the mouth of the beast, and the mouth of the false prophet.” Rev 16:13

    “The Spirit says clearly that some people will abandon the faith in later times; they will obey lying spirits and follow the teachings of demons.” 1 Tim 4:1 

    Can we determine specifically that the anointed are the primary target of these spirits?  Was Satan looking to entrap God’s anointed when on the hunt facilitated by the “preaching work” of JWs? Demonic spirits do marvelous and seemingly wondrous “miracles” and signs, through their false prophet pawns. (Matt 24:24; 2 Thess 2:9-10; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Rev 13:11,13)

    “for they are spirits of demons, performing signs, which go out to the kings of the entire [a]world,  to gather them together for the war of the great day of God, the Almighty. (Rev 16:14 NASB)

    [a]   “the entire inhabited earth” -  Greek ,“oikoumene”

    This is not referring to political rulers, but to the anointed kings belonging to Jesus.  The anointed spiritual hearts are God’s homestead, His land, His possession inhabited by His Spirit. (John 14:23; 1 Cor 3:9,16; Rom 8:9)  They, are the “kings of the earth” who are to submit solely to their Head, Jesus Christ.  (1 Pet 2:5; Rev 1:5-6; 5:9-10)

    “Then the spirits brought the kings together in the place that in Hebrew is called Armageddon.” (Rev 16:16 GNT)

    The organization is where these kings are found.  No other religion has boasted for years of the membership of genuine anointed of “Israel”, gathered into its flock. (Jer 6:2-6; Rev 20:7-9)

    Back in Nehemiah chapter 9, the Levites addressed God saying,

    “At Mount Sinai you came down from heaven;
        you spoke to your people
        and gave them good laws and sound teachings.”

    You taught them to keep your Sabbaths holy,
        and through your servant Moses you gave them your laws.”
      Neh 9:13,14

    After years of neglecting the word of God, which was the reason Israel became exiles to Babylon, the laws were restored for Israel to follow; and as long as they adhered to His decrees, they flourished under His guidance. (Deut 28:9; Lev 26:3,4; Prov 6:23; Luke 11:28)

    Toward the end of his life, Moses told his people that God would raise up a prophet, saying “Listen to him”.  (Deut 18:15,18-19) This prophet is the “Elijah”, the “messenger of the covenant”, whom Jesus sends in the last days to warn his priests of the imminent danger they are in while in slavery to the Beasts. After years of the governing leaders rejecting the word of God and instituting the words men, a trumpet call is sounded, admonishing the cleansing, refinement, and restoration of the holy priesthood, through the reintroduction of the teachings of Christ. The word of God has once again “come down from heaven”.  (Joel 2:1-2; Jer 4:7,19-22; Mal 2:7-8; 3:1-4; Luke 1:17; Matt 17:1-3,10,11; Rev 11:3,4)

    (Mal 4:4-6; Heb 12:18-25) - https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mal+4%3A4-6%3B+Heb+12%3A18-25&version=CSB

    While struggling under the teachings of demons in the organization, many of us sought rescue when our boat, our faith, was ready to capsize into the deep, murky waters of the storm-tossed, “wicked” sea.   (Ps 18:16,17; 69:14-15; Jer 6:23; Ezek 2:6; Isa 35:4; Luke21:28)

    I thought I’d share comments from a meeting recording dated 3/9/2021, which can heard here.  It is addressing the article,  Good News, What is it? Who is it for?   

    Pearl comments on the account of Jesus walking across the stormy sea to meet the disciples, found in John 6:16-21; Matt 14:29-34; Mark 6:45-53

    “…when Jesus was walking on the water and the apostles were terrified, it says they thought he was an apparition, or a spirit or a demon, and he was about to pass them by. I love this account because of what it means for later. He was about to pass them by, but he told them who he was and to not be afraid.

    It says they allowed Jesus into the boat that kept them separate from the sea, which we know from Isaiah 57:20, is the wicked. Now, teachings are what keep us afloat – our faith. Remember the shipwreck of your faith? (1 Tim 1:18-19) So our faith (is) the teachings we believe in.  (The disciples) were without Jesus when they were on that stormy sea. And we know the prophecies say that the sea would be in tumult casting up mire and mud, especially in the time of the end. When they accept him into the boat, when Jesus becomes their faith, everything (becomes) still. And if you read the account, it says immediately they were at the land where they were intending to go. Just immediately, their boat was there on the shore.”

    When the family reluctantly moved from the shore of the beautiful lake in late autumn, our opportunity for a daily respite from the ongoing treadmill while members for the organization, was taken away.  Not until many years later did our captivity under the teachings of demons, come to a grateful end. Replacing the teachings of demonic spirits with the living water of Christ, brought freedom in truth, and peace and rest to the heart. (Matt 11:28-30; Phil 4:6-7)  By the grace of God, a remnant of the spiritual Temple/Zion and those faithful disciples of Christ with them, have been released and rescued from captivity to false prophets and a Wild Beast of stinging locust scorpions. (Ezek 28:24) The anointed in Christ who bravely defend God’s dwelling in Spirit, give God all glory and reverence through sacrifices of praise. (2 Chron 23:6-7;1 Pet 2:5; Heb 13:15) They defend the truth in His Son, the conquering King of kings. (Rev 19:15-16,14) The spiritual temple built on the Word of God, is now being restored and refined, outside of the organization’s wall of lies. (Neh 9:27; Ezek 2:6; 13:10-12; Isa 58:12; Jer 31:11;1 Pet 3:10-15)     

     

    Topics found at https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/

    Getting "Killed"/Disfellowshipped

    "Word"/"Earth"/"HOME"

    Greatest Tribulation - What and Why?

    "Two Witnesses"/"Elijah" and "Moses"

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  3. 20 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    God's word cannot be challenged

    Numbers 18 - The Lord said to Aaron, “You, your sons, and your ancestral house will be responsible for sin against the sanctuary. You and your sons will be responsible for sin involving your priesthood. 

    “You are to guard the sanctuary and the altar so that wrath may not fall on the Israelites again. 

    "But you and your sons will carry out your priestly responsibilities  for everything concerning the altar and for what is inside the veil, and you will do that work. I am giving you the work of the priesthood as a gift, but an unauthorized person who comes near the sanctuary will be put to death.

    1 Pet 2:5,9 - "you yourselves, as living stones, are being built into a spiritual house for a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.

    But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood,
    a holy nation, a people for His possession,
    so that you may proclaim the praises
    of the One who called you out of darkness
    into His marvelous light.

    Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the world.”  

    "Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!"  2002/8/1 Wt.

    1 Cor 3:16,17 "Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s sanctuary and that the Spirit of God lives in you?  If anyone destroys God’s sanctuary, God will destroy him; for God’s sanctuary is holy, and that is what you are."   

     

    A Great Deception

     

  4. I give you abundant proof from God's word that the elder body is the "man of lawlessness" to appear and trample the anointed priesthood in the last days. (Dan 7:7; 8:9-14; Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1-2,4-7)  You give me no proof that their role as representatives of the royal priesthood is sanctioned by God.  

    None.

    We make a choice to either serve God and be obedient to His word, or we serve men and are obedient to their word. (Joel 3:14; Isa 30:13; Ezek chapter 13; Rev 19:20)

    Only one choice brings us eternal life.

    17 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    For this is what the LORD of Hosts, the God of Israel, says: "Do not be deceived by the prophets and diviners among you, and do not listen to the dreams you elicit from them. Jeremiah 37:9 This is what the LORD says: Do not deceive yourselves by saying, 'The Chaldeans will go away for good,' for they will not!

    The "Gentile Times" are not over. (2 Thess 2:3-4; Rev 11:1-2) Those times are now, when spiritual "Gentiles" rule over the holy people of God.  

    "Then the Chaldeans will return and fight against this city, and they will capture it and burn it with fire.”’  Jer 37:8

    Jer 23:29 tells us that God's word is "like fire".  Satan uses his ministers/false prophets to produce "fire" as well.  Their words have overcome/conquered the anointed, and are "burning" this holy city, with deceitful works and lies.  (2 Cor 11:3,4;13-15; Rev 13:11,13, 5-7; 16:13-16; 20:7-9)

    Jer 14:14; 8:11; 23:14; Zech 10:2; Matt 7:15-20; 24:24,25; Acts 20:28-31; 2 Pet 2:1-3; 1 John 4:1-6; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,2,11,12,10; 11:3,7-8,11-13; 14:6-12

     

  5. 13 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    Deuteronomy 4:2 You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you. Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you. Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you.

    Deuteronomy 4:2 You must not add to or subtract from what I command you, so that you may keep the commandments of the LORD your God that I am giving you. Do not add to what I command you and do not subtract from it, but keep the commands of the LORD your God that I give you. Do not add to or subtract from these commands I am giving you.

    2 Chron 23:6 - "But no one is to enter the house of the LORD except the priests and the ministering Levites; they may enter, for they are holy. And all the people are to keep the command of the LORD.”

    Num 18:7 - "But you and your sons with you shall attend to your priesthood for everything that concerns the altar and inside the veil, and you are to perform service. I am giving you the priesthood as a service that is a gift, and the unauthorized person who comes near shall be put to death."

    1 Pet 2:5,9 –  “you also, as living stones, are being built up a spiritual house (dwelling/temple of God), a holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ.   But you are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, His own special people, that you may proclaim the praises of Him who called you out of darkness into His marvelous light”

    1 Cor 3:16 - Do you not know that you are the temple (spiritual dwelling) of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

    Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the world.”  2002/8/1 Wt

    2 Chron 13:9 - "Have you not driven out the priests of the LORD, the sons of Aaron and the Levites, and made for yourselves priests like the peoples of [other] lands? Whoever comes to consecrate himself with a bull and seven rams, even he may become a priest of [things that are] not gods.”

    Ezek 44:9 - 'This is what the Lord GOD says: "No foreigner uncircumcised in heart and uncircumcised in flesh, of all the foreigners who are among the sons of Israel, shall enter My sanctuary.

    “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!” 2002/8/1 Wt.

    Where did the elders get that authority?  From God?  Would He break His own decrees? 

    Rev 13:7 – “It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them.  And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue and nation”. 

    The authority to take away the priesthood, was granted by a false prophet, and the “dragon”…

    “Then I saw a second beast, coming out of the earth. It had two horns like a lamb, but it spoke like a dragon. 12 It exercised all the authority of the first beast on its behalf, and made the earth and its inhabitants worship the first beast, whose fatal wound had been healed.”  Rev 13:11,12

    “Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessnessis revealed, the man doomed to destruction. He will oppose and will exalt himself over everything that is called God or is worshiped, so that he sets himself up in God’s temple, proclaiming himself to be God.”  2 Thess 2:3,4

    This rebellion to “represent the priesthood”, is according to the works of the dragon –

    2 Thess 2:9 – “The coming of the lawless one will be in accordance with how Satan works. He will use all sorts of displays of power through signs and wonders that serve the lie

    TELL ME, WHO IS IT THAT HAS ADDED AND TAKEN AWAY FROM THE COMMANDS OF GOD? 

    READ NUMBERS 18:7 AGAIN.   WHO IS PRESENTLY ATTENDING TO THE DUTIES OF GOD’S PRIESTHOOD?

    IT IS THE ELDERS WHO HAVE USURPED THE ROLE GOD GAVE TO HIS CHOSEN HOLY PRIESTHOOD.

    So, please, consider who it is that is adding and taking away from the word of God. 

    1 Cor 3:17 – “If anyone destroys the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.”

    2 Thess 2:8 –  “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will overthrow with the breath of his mouth and destroy by the splendor of his coming

    This is why the wrath of God comes against His own people in the last days.  Each bowl of Revelation poured out by “seven angels"/messengers” contain the word of God – hail, lightning and fire. They are the prophetic words of His prophets from the past, spoken once again in unison, and the message given to His last prophet sent by Jesus in these last days. Rev 10:7,3; 21:9; 17:1; Mal 3:1-4; Matt 17:11; Rev 11:1-3; 14:6-12

    The condemnation of Revelation does not come against a people outside the Watchtower,.  God is their judge. He has sent His prophet to announce that it comes against those who support the “man of lawlessness”/elder body/organization/BEAST of Rev. 13:1, that tramples the Temple of God. (Matt 24:15,16; Rev 11:1,2) It is sadly, condemnation against His holy people who refuse to leave the idol and turn to their King, Jesus Christ.  They should be surrounding their King, and protecting truth and the Temple dwelling of God’s spirit.  2 Chron 23:7; Rev 18:4-8

    Instead, they surround a wicked slave and bend to the wicked power of a composite elder body that will put them to “death” if they reject the idol.  Matt 24:48-51; Rev 9:1-11; 11:1-3,7; 13:15,18

    They are “lukewarm”, refusing to carry and obey the words of Christ, the word of God – hot or cold - hail, fire, lightning - choosing instead, to listen to the word of men and obey “foreigners” who have trampled truth down to the ground. Rev 3:15-18.  (Matt 5:13; Dan 8:12)

    Jer 23:29; Isa 28:14-22; Matt 24:27 

    People!  How do you think the Kingdom of God will arrive?  On the skirts of 8 men and their earthly organization?  Satan is aware that when the last anointed ones are sealed - those who are loyal to Christ and the Father, NOT TO MEN, then his kingdom will be destroyed - DEATH, will be destroyed. He will be thrown into the lake of fire; the condemnation of the word of God.   1 Cor 15:25,26; Rev 19:20; 20:10.  He has set up an effective trap called the Watchtower., that you call "the truth".  Ironic, isn't it, that false teachings, false predictions are considered "the truth"? John 8:44  The members of the body of Christ are his enemy, just as Christ is. Gen 3:15.  The anointed are his last enemies to take down, if he can. Keeping them quiet and in submission to "foreigners" ruling over them, and believing in a false sense of "peace and security" is all a part of his deadly trap.  1 Thess 5:3

    Don't be deceived.  Matt 24:4,5,24;25; 1 Tim 4:1; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10

    To every JW who comes here, I tell you,  it is time to flee.  Matt 24:15,16; Rev 18:4-8

     

  6. w81 11/15 p. 21 -   And while now the witness yet includes the invitation to come to Jehovah’s organization for salvation, the time no doubt will come when the message takes on a harder tone, like a “great war cry". Rev 16:21

     An idol built with treasures on this earth has brought salvation to millions?

    This is robbery and slander committed against God-given salvation in Jesus Christ, who taught against storing up for yourselves treasures on earth; and particularly, the false doctrine of men.  Matt 6:19-21; Matt 24:4-8; 15:9

    How dare men rob the glory of Christ and claim that the organization is blessed with the glory of God. 

    Yes, there is a great war cry against such blasphemy.  JWs have become quiet and timid standing behind their carts, while the testimony of truth is cried out by those outside of the organization - anointed and those with them who have been spiritually “killed” by their own people, for standing with Christ. John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7; Rev 13:15; 12:17; 17:4-6; Matt 23:29-36; Rev 18:4-5,24

     

     

     

  7. 15 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    Can you prove where JW's have rejected Christ?

    Again…

    The body of Christ is God’s spiritual Temple.  John 2:19-21 

    That temple is built with “living stones” of the anointed priesthood. (1 Pet 2:5,9)

    They are the “members” of Christ’s body. (1 Cor 12:12-14,25,26; 10:17; Eph 1:22,23; Col 1:18)

    He is the Head of the body, which the anointed are to follow in his footsteps, adhering to his teachings.  They are not equal to Jesus. (Eph 1:22; 2:19-20)  They are to grow in truth, not in the doctrine of men.  (Eph 4:15)

    These members have been rejected and replaced by elders not anointed.  Wt. 2002/8/1

    Elders are to be “honored”, while the members of the spiritual Temple/body of Christ are to remain “humble” – in other words, silent and obedient to the “honored” ones.

    The anointed role as teachers of the “law” in Christ, their daily sacrifices of praise, has been removed.  This result, is spiritual war.    (Mal 2:7; Heb 8:10; 13:15; 1 Pet 2:5)  (Eccl 10:5-7; Ps 66:11-12;  129:1-5; Isa 51:21-23; Dan 10:12-14; 12:7; Rev 11:1-3; 13:1,2,5-7; 12:7; 16:13-16; 20:7-9)

    Wt. 2017/3 p. 6,7; Wt. 2016/1 p. 22

    In the presence of this abomination/man of lawlessness/elders who rule over the anointed, is the trampling of the body of Christ, the spiritual Temple of God – the trampling of his anointed brothers.  (Dan 7:7,21,25;8:24; 9:26; Matt 24:15; Dan 11:31,36; Isa 63:18-19; 2 Chron 13:9 )

    Elders represent the organization, which to JWs is their salvation.  (Jer 2:28; Isa 46:5,8-9,12-13; Acts 4:12; 17:24-25,29)

    The anointed who are to represent the spiritual Temple of God, which is the source of true salvation in Christ, have succumbed to the power of men over them.  They have succumbed to the power, dominance, and demonic authority of the organizational idol.  (Deut 4:15-18; Exod 20:4-5; 32:8,4; Matt 22:36-37; Rom 1:21-22,25; Rev 13: 11,14-15,8)

    Yes, JWs have rejected Christ.  Your leaders preach “another Jesus”. (Matt 24:24,25; 2 Cor 11:4; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Pet 2:1-3; Col 2:8; Rev 13:10)

    Jesus said, “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”  Luke 10:16

    Matt 25:40-43; Acts 9:4-5

    Every arrogant word spoken against God’s Temple in Christ, is a rejection of Christ himself.

    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’  Matt 7:21-23

    The scriptures speak of only one arrangement that God approves of; that is, the House that He has built on the body of His Son.  Ps 127:1; Act 7:48-53

     

  8. Would you have blasphemed the early physical temple where God allowed His Spirit to dwell?

    If you say, of course not…

    Then why do you blaspheme God’s Son, who, with the Father, has built the spiritual temple with him as the chief cornerstone, and with chosen “living stones” that are his priesthood?  1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22 

    To reject the anointed priesthood/kings…

    Temple of God’s spiritual dwelling…

    Abraham’s seed…

    Bride of Christ…

    New Jerusalem that “comes down from heaven”…

    …and with Jesus Christ, providing “healing of the nations” while they walk on this earth…  

    (1 Pet 2:5,9; Rom 2:28,29; 9:6-8; Gal 3:18,26-29; 2 Cor 11:2; Rev 21:1-4; 22:1,2) (Gen 28:10-17; John 1:49-51; Heb 1:6)

    For all JWs rejecting these chosen people is blaspheming the Holy Spirit.  Matt 12:31,32

    To elevate the elder body - to “exalt” this body of unanointed men and the organization they represent - above God’s “special possession” as the NWT puts it, and the only "Temple" that God approves of,  (Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5)…is blasphemy.

     

    “He even exalted himself as high as the Prince of the host; and by him the daily sacrifices were taken away, and the place of His sanctuary was cast down.”  Dan. 8:25

    “Through his cunning He shall cause deceit to prosper under his rule; And he shall exalt himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity. He shall even rise against the Prince of princes; But he shall be broken without human means.” Dan 11:36

    “Prince of the host”\ Prince of princes” is Jesus Christ. (Isa 9:6) His “princes” are the anointed priests who will serve both on the earth and in heaven.  Ps 45:16,17

    “Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessnessis revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.”  2 Thess 2:3,4

    Rebellion?

    “Rather than challenge their authority, we truly appreciate our hardworking elders!”  2002/8/1

    “And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord Jesus will destroy with the breath of his mouth and bring to nothing by the appearance of his coming.”  2 Thess 2:8

    Any JW reading this, should flee the Watchtower as soon as possible. Matt 24:15,16

     

     

     

     

  9. Using the scriptures to help us understand scriptures, an anointing was specifically given to priests and kings. (Expo 28:41; 1 Kings 1:34)  Anyone genuinely anointed since Christ, would explain that it is a supernatural experience; as if oil is being poured over the head, and into every part of the person’s physical being.  It reaches the heart, a pouring out of God’s love. (Rom 5:5)  The anointed in the organization are not allowed to talk about it, so the assumption is made by the elder body, that the person who claims to be anointed could very likely be mentally diseased, emotionally unbalanced.   However, a genuine anointed one clearly knows he or she is “anointed” not with tangible oil, but with the Holy Spirit.

    To say every elder in the Wt. is anointed is blasphemy against the direction of Holy Spirit.  1 Peter addresses the “elect”, the chosen ones.  He was an anointed apostle.  In 1 Pet 5 he says –

    “The elders who are among you I exhort, I who am a fellow elder and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and also a partaker of the glory that will be revealed: Shepherd the flock of God which is among you, serving as overseers, not by compulsion but  willingly, not for dishonest gain but eagerly; nor as being lords over those entrusted to you, but being examples to the flock; and when the Chief Shepherd appears, you will receive the crown of glory that does not fade away.”

    The word “elder” in Greek simply means “of age, advanced in life, a senior”.   It is not an all-inclusive class label that can be given to a 20 year-old man because the organization is desperate to build back up their elder body.  The “Chief Shepherd”, Jesus Christ, told his soon to be anointed disciples, “feed my sheep”.  John 21:16   A shepherd guides the flock; an anointed priest guides the people by teaching the laws of God. (Mal 2:7; Heb 8:10)  HE appointed them to be shepherds/members of the Body/Temple built on the Chief Shepherd, Jesus Christ. 

    John 15:16 – “You didn’t choose me, (SAID JESUS) but I chose you. I have appointed you to go, to produce fruit that will last, and to ask the Father in my name to give you whatever you ask for.”

    The elder body chooses its own elders!  I know how it works. They then say the appointment was by Holy Spirit. I know that is a lie.  It is being claimed here that the appointment is an anointing.  What if a man who was a secret pedophile is “chosen” to be an elder?  Later, his crimes against children is exposed by new victims in his congregation.  Was Holy Spirit truly involved with his appointment? Or did men choose him according to their need; such as choosing a 20 year old out of desperation?

    God has an arrangement that is being purposefully ignored by the organization.  He’s not going to let the matter drop. We have all the warnings God gave His people, yet JWs act as if these warnings do not apply to the organization – which is steeped in sin.  Rev 18:4-8

    Isa 30:9-13 - They are always rebelling against God, always lying, always refusing to listen to the Lord's teachings. 10 They tell the prophets to keep quiet. They say, “Don't talk to us about what's right. Tell us what we want to hear. Let us keep our illusions. 11 Get out of our way and stop blocking our path. We don't want to hear about your holy God of Israel.”

    12 But this is what the holy God of Israel says: “You ignore what I tell you and rely on violence and deceit. 13 You are guilty. You are like a high wall with a crack running down it; suddenly, you will collapse.” 

    The organization is not too big, or too well established, to be brought down by Jesus Christ.  2 Thess 2:3-10; Rev 19:20

    His anointed were chosen by the Father and the Son.  The elder body, which acts as priests, is chosen strictly by men.

     

    “A horrible and appalling thing

    Has happened in the land:

    The prophets prophesy with lying,

    And the priests have dominion by their own hand;

    And My people love it so!

    But what will you do at the end of it?"  Jer 5:30,31

    The phrase, "dominion by their own hand" or "the priests bear rule by their own means" ...in Hebrew, this is translated "to have dominion, rule, tread, trample". Matt 24:15,16; Dan 7:7,23;8:10; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 13:1,2,5-7

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  10.  

    "Following the model of first-century Christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no clergy-laity division. All baptized Witnesses are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work. Witnesses are organized into congregations of about 100 believers. Spiritually mature men in each congregation serve as “older men,” or elders."

    https://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/no-paid-clergy/


    Is it true that JWs do not have a "clergy-laity" division? 

    Contributed:

    If you are a JW and are waiting for the great tribulation to start, and a nation to invade your “spiritual paradise”, it is not going to happen as you've been told. As much as you want to believe it, Gods land, or “land of decoration” as the New World Translation calls it, is not your activity of JW meetings and field ministry as the Watchtower would want you to believe. You see, Gods land are the anointed (1 Corinthians 3:9; 1 Corinthians 3:16). The nation that invades God’s land (Daniel 11:41) is the same nation that invades God’s temple (Joel 1:6; Revelation 9:7-10; 2 Thessalonians 2:4). Has Russia invaded the Temple of anointed or tried to replace the anointed as priests? No. Russia doesn’t even care. But, there is a nation of men who do care and want the power of the anointed. In fact, they have already invaded God’s land and are standing in the temple, trampling it at this very moment (2 Thessalonians 2:4; Luke 21:24). This nation that makes up the king of the north is better known to you as your body of elders.

    The governing body opened the doors for the elders to invade God’s land, like locusts (Joel 2:2-4; Revelation 9:9), installing them in the temple (Daniel 8:24; 12:11; 11:31) and replacing God’s chosen anointed priests.

    This army of elders are imposter priests, wolves dressed in priest-like clothing. Remember, nobody but anointed are to be priests. After all, the anointed are the royal priesthood ordained by God Himself (1 Peter 2:5;9; Ephesians 2:20-22; Revelation 5:10). Anyone who isn’t anointed and trespasses into the temple while trying to be your spiritual shepherd and hold judicial matters over you, are, according to the Bible, worthy of death (Numbers 18:7; 3:10; Matthew 24:15; 2 Chronicles 26:16; 2 Chronicles 23:6). The body of elders have done just this, defiling Gods temple:

    “If anyone defiles the temple of God, God will destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are.” 1 Corinthians 3:17

    The great tribulation is already well underway. You’re probably thinking that’s impossible because you’re living  the “best life ever”; but remember, you were taught by a false prophet/governing body and their man of lawlessness/elder body what “their” description of the great tribulation was going to be like, where they are the victors. You need to get rid of almost everything you have ever been taught by the governing body and get a new wineskin (Matthew 9:17), otherwise new teachings from the marriage feast will not work with the old. Nobody can eat from the Lord’s table and the table of demons (1 Corinthians 10:21). The disgusting thing is already discerned standing in the holy place, which are the elder body standing in the temple. So, when you see the elders acting like priests, trampling Jerusalem, disregarding truth and disfellowshipping the anointed temple (Dan 8:24; Luke 21:20; 19:43; 21:24), Jesus said to flee (Mark 13:14).

     

     The Greatest Tribulation - What and Why

     

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  11. Since Christ, there is an anointed priesthood, 

    chosen by God Himself to perform the duties of that Temple (Rev.1:5-65:9-10Mal.2:71Cor.6:1-3).

    If you do not understand the difference between the spiritual Jew and the spiritual Gentile,

    you will not be able to "catch sight" of the "disgusting thing, standing in the holy place"/"abomination of desolation" 

    (Matt.24:15Mark13:14>"standing where it does not belong"). 

     

    Should JW Elders Replace God's Anointed Priests?

  12. 1 hour ago, Moise Racette said:

    To resolve that understanding, reference 1 Corinthians 14:33, and perhaps 2 Corinthians 2:11

    This is God’s “orderly” arrangement:

    Jesus answered, “Destroy this temple, and I will raise it up in three days.” 20 Therefore the Jews said, “This temple took forty-six years to build, and will you raise it up in three days?” 21 But he was speaking about the temple of his body.  John 2:19-21

    The “temple (naos) of his body” –

    Matt 16:18 – “And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overpower it”. 

    The “rock” is Jesus Christ – 1 Cor 10:4

    “church” – “an assembly of the people”

    Who is assembled?  From 1 Pet 2:

    “As you come to him, a living stone (Jesus Christ)—rejected by people but chosen and honored by God— you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood[d] to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. For it stands in Scripture:

    See, I lay a stone in Zion,
    a chosen and honored cornerstone,
    and the one who believes in him
    will never be put to shame

    “A spiritual house” – oikos – “an inhabited house”

    The early priesthood served in the temple – the habitation of God’s spirit.

    “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.”  1 Pet 2:9

    Today’s priesthood was chosen to serve in the spiritual house/temple dwelling of God’s spirit.

    1 Cor 3:16,17 -   “Don’t you yourselves know that you are God’s temple and that the Spirit of God lives in you? 17 If anyone destroys God’s temple, God will destroy him; for God’s temple is holy, and that is what you are.”

    The whole of this “body” of Christ – this assembly of “living stones” chosen to be priests is described here:

     “built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, with Christ Jesus himself as the cornerstone21 In him the whole building, being put together, grows into a holy temple (naos) in the Lord. 22 In him you are also being built together for God’s dwelling in the Spirit.”  Eph 2:20-22

    Jesus said, “destroy this temple and I will raise it up in three days”.  It was raised up on his body, symbolized by a rock and cornerstone of an assembly of “living stones” and chosen priesthood.

    Each “living stone” of this spiritual rock/body/Temple of God’s spirit was given a gift. 

    Eph 4 - “There is one body (temple) and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope at your calling— one Lord, one faith, one baptism, one God and Father of all, who is above all and through all and in all.

    Now grace was given to each one of us according to the measure of Christ’s gift. For it says:

    When he ascended on high,
    he took the captives captive;
    he gave gifts to people.

    “And he himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers, 12 to equip the saints for the work of ministry, to build up the body of Christ13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of God’s Son, growing into maturity with a stature measured by Christ’s fullness. “

    Who are the “saints”? –  “a most holy thing”; the “holy” priesthood, the “holy” Temple of God.

    The “body of Christ” is God’s spiritual Temple, where only a chosen priesthood is allowed to “serve”. 

    So, looking at your scripture –

    “since God is not a God of disorder but of peace. As in all the churches of the saints”  1 Cor 14:33...

    We now know who the “saints” are, and what the arrangement is, that God approves of.  

      

    Watchtower’s “orderly” arrangement: 

    Daily text for today:

    It is true that through Christ, Jehovah has given “gifts in men” to His congregation. (Eph. 4:8) These “gifts in men” include Governing Body members, appointed helpers to the Governing Body, Branch Committee members, circuit overseers, field instructors, congregation elders, and ministerial servants.

    Wow, no mention whatsoever of the anointed royal priesthood - the "saints".  

    All these brothers are appointed by holy spirit to care for Jehovah’s precious sheep and serve the interests of the congregation. (1 Pet. 5:2, 3)

    How are the elders appointed by holy spirit?  They choose scriptural guidelines that were addressed originally to the anointed.  In that way, they say they have been “appointed”; and this is their own excuse.

    Brothers are appointed by holy spirit to carry out various responsibilities. Just as various parts of the body, such as the hands and the feet, work to benefit the entire body, brothers who are appointed by holy spirit work hard to benefit the entire congregation. They do not seek personal glory. Instead, they strive to build up and strengthen their brothers and sisters. (1 Thess. 2:6-8) We thank Jehovah for such unselfish, spiritually qualified men! w20.08 21 ¶5-6

     

    You can choose either the heavenly order set up by God and Christ in the royal priesthood, or you choose the blasphemous order of the “man of lawlessness” evident by the above quote and who has usurped the spiritual Temple of God, built with "living stones" of Christ's priesthood.

    The anointed have been trampled by this “orderly arrangement” in men.  2 Thess 2:3,4

     

    That’s about all for me, Allen.  But thank you for your comments, because they do help me expose the identity of the “man of lawlessness” in these last days. 

     

     

     

  13. 1 hour ago, Moise Racette said:

    The question above is confusing, since all JW's in their ministry can be priest of knowledge, not confusion.

    So then, all of JWs would then claim to be anointed priests, (since all ancient priests were anointed; today’s are anointed spiritually)  AND “REPRESENT THE HOLY PRIESTHOOD", JUST YOUR ELDERS DO.  Is that right, Allen? Are you wanting to "secure the priesthood" as Korah did? ( w02 8/1 p. 9-10)  Priests served in the temple where no other member of Israel of foreigners were allowed.  The pattern followed was from what was seen by Moses in heaven. (Heb 8:5) You, are disregarding God’s heavenly arrangement set in place before the priesthood under Moses took shape.  If everyone was a “priest" of knowledge, that means that all JWs have been anointed and received a “heavenly calling” to serve in the Temple of God.  

    Everyone who listens to those whom Jesus sends, (his priests Mal 2:7),  can receive the knowledge of God and know His decrees in Christ, which leads to eternal life. (John 13:20)  That “living water”, will flow from their heart as well.  (John 7:38)  

    Well, with your help, you have added more progressive lies on top of the lies of your leaders.  Why not?   JWs live in the land of confusing teachings as it is.  You should be on the writing committee (or maybe you once were). 

     

    it-1 pp. 496-500 - “Also, while the priests and kings of Israel were anointed with oil (Ex 30:22-30; 2Ki 9:6), those chosen by God to be members of the Christian congregation are anointed with holy spirit (2Co 1:21, 22; 1Jo 2:20) and are adopted by Jehovah God as his sons.”—Eph 1:5.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

  14. Do JWs consider the “anointed” governing leaders as priests?  That identity is not spoken of much, whereas their self-appointed label of “faithful and discreet slave” is widely advertised.  Of course, it would be an anointed priest who would fulfill that role, appointed only by Jesus and recognized as such, when he returns.  (Matt 24:45-47; 25:21) 

    The organization’s “daily text” for yesterday, November 10, mentions 1 Sam 13:8-12, where King Saul disregarded the prophet Samuel’s direction to wait for Samuel to return and offer a burnt sacrifice to God.  Israel was “hard pressed” in conflict with the Philistines. (1 Sam 13:6,7) Samuel had previously told Saul to go ahead of him to Gilgal, and in 7 days’ time, he would arrive to offer up a burnt sacrifice to God.   Saul was not a priest; and as the daily text states, he “was not authorized” to offer the burnt sacrifice.  The text points out that Saul lost God’s favor by going ahead of Samuel’s direction and performing the sacrifice himself.  Saul lost his kingship because of it.   (1 Sam 13:8-14) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=1+Sam+13%3A6-7%2C8-14&version=NIV

    The text continues by saying, “We are wise if we learn from this warning example and avoid acting presumptuously.”

    True to its form, the organization will offer Bible examples that have solid meaning and even encourage their “warning example”; yet arrogantly disobey their own warnings. (Jer 6:19; Ps 78:10; Titus 1:16; Heb 2:2) 

    Today’s priesthood in the anointed –

    1 Pet 2:5,9  GNT -

    “Come as living stones, and let yourselves be used in building the spiritual temple, where you will serve as holy priests to offer spiritual and acceptable sacrifices to God through Jesus Christ.”

    “But you are the chosen race, the King's priests, the holy nation, God's own people, chosen to proclaim the wonderful acts of God, who called you out of darkness into his own marvelous light.”

    These scriptures do not allude to a future time of activity for this priesthood only, as if their “acceptable sacrifices” have been put on hold until God’s Kingdom arrives; but God expects them to be offering sacrifices of praise while they live…now, on this earth. They are to be an active priesthood under their High Priest and King, Jesus Christ, following the example of his priests in the first century. (Rom 12:1-2; 15:14-16; Heb 10:19-22; Titus 2:14; Rev 5:9,10)

    They have been assigned to preserve the word of God in Jesus, to praise the only true God and His Son; and to teach and serve the people.  (Exod 29:44; Isa 43:21; Mal 2:7; Heb 13:15;1 Cor 4:1,2; 1 Tim 4:16; Eph 4:29; 2 Tim 3:16-17)   

    JWs need to ask why their anointed priests in charge - their “faithful and discreet slave” - have not been faithful in upholding this sacred priesthood, and its obligations to God. (Exod 40:15; Mal 2:7; 1 John 2:27)

    They have instead, allowed their  choice in the “uncircumcised” elder body, to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable…to God?  No; their sacrifices are approved by the unfaithful “slave”, as “acceptable” to “Jehovah’s organization”. (1 Kings 12:31,32;13:33,34; Dan 11:38; 2 Cor 6:14-18; Rom 1:25; Rev 2:20; 13:1,2,4,11,12,16)

    These men who share in the production of spiritual food with the unanointed elder body, have disregarded the warning example in 1 Samuel 13.  Their minds and hearts are set on earthly things. The organization takes full precedence, over the needs of God’s spiritual Temple.   (1 John 2:15-16; Phil 3:17-19)

    They have devised a beneficial arrangement that satisfies their lust for power and dominance, but with a price.  They will never benefit from the spiritual gifts initially bestowed within the hearts of their “brothers in Christ” upon their anointing. (Eph 4:4-13)  They have directed their elders to command God’s priests to remain “scattered” and silent.  (Ezek 34:5,6; Lam 4:1,16; Matt 24:48-51; Luke 19:43-44)

    The result? Any chance of Truth that a unified anointed body under Jesus would provide, has been thrown to the ground, creating a climate of spiritual famine. (1 John 2:27; John 15:5; 2 John 1:9; Gal 1:6-9; Isa 29:7-8; Amos 8:10-12; Joel 1:9-10,13; Rev 6:5-6; 13:16-17; Dan 8:11-13)

    Should God’s priests allow anyone to take their place in the “spiritual temple”, corrupting the vows assigned specifically to them? (Num 3:10; 18:7) The anointed are also transgressing God’s dwelling in Spirit by allowing “Gentiles” to “stand where they don’t belong”, and “take their seat” in judgment against them.  (Matt 24:15,16; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; John 16:2; Rev 11:1-3,7; Rev 13:15)

    1 Pet 2:5 tells us that God’s Temple is comprised of anointed priests.  1 Corinthians 3:16-17 is addressing these priests, and its message is for all anointed in the organization today -

    “Surely you know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you! 17 God will destroy anyone who destroys God's temple. For God's temple is holy, and you yourselves are his temple.”

    How can we apply this to the authentic priesthood in the organization?  How can God’s Temple be destroyed today? Whenever a foreigner entered God’s physical temple in ancient times, this was considered an “abomination”, a “disgusting thing” to God. (Ezek 8:6; Mal 2:11)  He chose His priests, and He outlined their duties to be followed.  (Exod 19:6; Rev 1:6)

    Ezek 44:6-9 -

    “Tell those rebellious people of Israel that I, the Sovereign Lord, will no longer tolerate the disgusting things that they have been doing. They have profaned my Temple by letting uncircumcised foreigners, people who do not obey me, enter the Temple when the fat and the blood of the sacrifices are being offered to me. So my people have broken my covenant by all the disgusting things they have done. They have not taken charge of the sacred rituals in my Temple, but instead have put foreigners in charge.

    “I, the Sovereign Lord, declare that no uncircumcised foreigner, no one who disobeys me, will enter my Temple, not even a foreigner who lives among the people of Israel.”

    The anointed “Israel” today congregates with “Gentiles” not anointed.  Presumptuously, the governing leaders have allowed God’s Temple to be overrun with foreigners – the “man of lawlessness”. (2 Thess 2:3,4)  They have allowed the spiritual sacrifices that should be offered by the priests, to come to a halt, to cease, to be nonexistent.  (Ps 79:1; 74:3; Isa 63:18; Dan 11:31) The responsibility of God’s anointed priesthood and the Temple dwelling of God, has been trampled and eradicated.  (Jer 51:51; Luke 21:20,24) 

    “Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth.”  (Wt 02/8/1, pg 13-14)

    Has God ever allowed His decrees to be transgressed without severe consequences? (2 Chron 26:16-21; Jude 1:10-11)  Wt. leaders have bent and twisted His commands; and manipulated God’s people under covenant to be deceived into idolatry.  (Hos 6:7-9; Matt 24:24,25; 2 Pet 2:1-3; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:13-16)

    The organizational idol required its own priesthood, and it created it with the help of rebel priests. (Dan 8:24; Matt 24:48-51)  God’s priests have been shoved aside by an army too large, too powerful to come against. (Lam 5:8; Joel 1:6-8; Dan 11:31; Rev 13:7; 9:10)

    “Rather than challenge their authority, we truth appreciate our hardworking elders!”  Wt 02/8/1, pg 13,14)

    This, is how the spiritual Temple of God in the organization has been “destroyed”. What blasphemy to bully a spiritual nation with threats that the Almighty God recognizes as “war” against His people.  (Dan 11:31-33, 36-37; 2 Thess 2:3-4, 9-10; Rev 13:7,10; Joe 3:9-14; Rev 12:7; 19:20; 2 Thess 2:8 )

    Ezekiel 44:10,13 -

     The Lord said to me, “I am punishing those Levites who, together with the rest of the people of Israel, deserted me and worshiped idols. They are not to serve me as priests or to go near anything that is holy to me or to enter the Most Holy Place. This is the punishment for the disgusting things they have done.”

    Where is the “Most Holy Place” today? 

    “The whole point of what we are saying is that we have such a High Priest, who sits at the right of the throne of the Divine Majesty in heaven. He serves as high priest in the Most Holy Place, that is, in the real tent which was put up by the Lord, not by human hands.”  Hebrew 8:1,2

    These adulterous governing leaders who have broken their covenant with the Father and the Son, have convinced millions of JWs that they will be serving as “priests/kings” with Jesus Christ in the Kingdom of God.  According to Ezekiel 44:13, this will not be the case.  No one transgresses God’s Temple and gets away with it. (Zech 2:1-10)  They have created a “lawless” priesthood – an “abomination standing in the holy place”, that is destined to trample them down as well.  (Jer 7:30; 19:4; Ezek 16:15; Hos 9:1; Jer 4:30; Rev 17:1,5,12-13,15-18)

    When the anointed realize/recognize/discern, that the Man of Lawlessness (the abomination), 

    "does not belong" standing over them- (the Holy Place) (Mark 13:14) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark13%3A14&version=CSB
    they will "discern" that it is "the season" 

    to get out, and "flee to the mountains" 
    (Matt 24:15-16; Ezek 36:8; Isa 56:7; 25:6; 2:2; Matt 22:2; Rev 19:9)

    Christ's Return - When?

    It is time for all JWs – anointed, elders and JWs in general  -  to “get out” from under the power of the “disgusting thing”/“man of lawlessness” of the Wt. idol.  Rev 18:4-8

     

    The Disgusting Thing Standing in the Holy Place

    "Jezebel"

     

     

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  15. 6 hours ago, Arauna said:

    I usually to not reply to your hate-OCD aberrations but this person (now answering you), does not know that you are known to most of us as a person to avoid due to the fact that you are set one one goal..  to destroy.... 

    This is my opinion, but the person I’m addressing my answer to, is more than likely, Allen; one of your JW members who wears several disguises, and who lies; and whom you have had adverse reactions with.

    You think I want to “destroy”?  Hate is evident in Anthony Morris who after lighting a match, grunts in pleasure when describing the end to “all of God’s enemies” outside of your organization. Hate is Stephen Lett stating that all babies are an enemy of God.

    Put the two bitter claims of your GB members together, and what do you have? Men who desire to destroy.  You have wicked men, imposters – wolves in sheep’s who have arrived in the last days to deceive the “elect” – the chosen anointed – and every JW who is devoted to their organization. Matt 24:24,25; 48-51; Rev 13:11,12,15.  Dear Arauna, you throw around the words “hate OCD”, yet you cannot see the hate that oozes from the hearts of your own leaders.  Did Jesus hate his own people when exposing their sins?  No!  But the leaders hated him with a passion; enough to put him to death.  Ray Franz exposed wrong teachings by your leaders, and he was “put to death”, and any who had association with him. How many were disfellowshipped in Bethel during those days for considering the false teachings of your leaders?  Many anointed and believers since, have experienced the same.  

    And I am very sorry that you cannot see through your leaders’ disguise as well.  (2 Cor 11:3,4,13-15)

    To bring attention to them and to the elder body who rule over the anointed, is not hate; it is a warning for all JWs to flee the organization. As I’ve said in the past, if I hated you or anyone here, I wouldn’t say a thing.  Instead, I choose to side with the Father and His word in Christ.  JWs choose to side with the word of men who preach “another Jesus”; which will bring about their downfall.  (2 Thess 2:9-10)  

    The man of lawlessness “sits”/rules over the anointed; and JWs, including you, are accepting this arrangement without searching God’s word for explanation – to examine the scriptures.  His word is clear that no one is to replace His priesthood.  I’ve provided the scriptures several times to prove it. (2 Chron 13:9; 23:6,7; Ezek 44:6-9, 15,16; Num 3:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17) Have they been examined, or passed over?  Does God’s word make any impression in your mind, or do you rationalize that it’s okay to change the word of God and His arrangement; and accept a new arrangement set up by false prophets/teachers instead? (2 Pet 2:1-3)

    2 Thess 2:3,4 - who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god  (the spiritual sons of God) or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.

    To “take his seat”/“sit” in the Temple of God, which is made of the anointed “living stones” (2 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17), is positioning oneself in a seat of judgment over them. Your elders have fulfilled this role, and it is outlined in the Wt. magazine that it must be obeyed.  These scriptures will tell you how the word translated as “sit” is used to imply judgment: Matt 25:31; 23:2; Luke 22:30; Rev 3:21; 20:4

    Your elder body judges each JW, and judges any anointed priest of God who steps out of line, who questions the direction of the power-hungry GB.  If you or any JW are okay with that, you are supporting the man of lawlessness who has risen above God’s “elect”.  Sadly, there is more faith exercised in the actions of men, than in the power of God.  (2 Thess 2:4; Rev 13:7; 11:1,2; Ezek 28:2)

    Read God’s word:

     Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies.  Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us.” Rom 8:34,35

     

    Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect?  The elder body.

     

    1 Cor 6:1,4 - “Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints (anointed)?”

    “4 If then you have judgments concerning things pertaining to this life, do you appoint those who are least esteemed by the church to judge?”

     

     When there is a judicial committee set up by elders to determine if a person should “live” or “die”, the decision is made according to the regulations of the organization. (John 16:2; Rev 13:4,7,15-17)  Any scriptures that the accused may use to refute the existence of the organization, the position of the GB and their false teachings, are rejected.  The majority of your elders will rule according to obedience outlined not in the Bible, but in the Shephard the Flock of God book.   Even your elders are in submission to the GB – men who reject the word of Jesus, for the words of men.  (Rev 9:1-4,7,8)

     

     

     

  16. 9 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    This should be pointed out. It's a disregard of scripture not to accept what Christ himself accepted when confronted by the Sanhedrin, and the apostles to the authorities of the church. Manipulation of scripture is also disagreeable to God's own spoken words.

    So, the Sanhedrin, established by men and not by God, and which was abolished after Jerusalem was destroyed, has been replaced by the Watchtower where the anointed are found. It is used to persecute those who speak of Christ by defending his teachings, and exposing the doctrine of men.  Elders in the first century were anointed. Simply because the word "elder" is used in the teachings of the apostles who were anointed priests, does not indicate that a new "Gentile" elder body/Sanhedrin was set in place to rule over spiritual Israel - the priests of God chosen to teach the people. Isa 43:10; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Mal 2:7

    This would mean that the apostles themselves would have to answer to "Gentiles".  

    To the future members of the heavenly Bride of Christ, Paul said, "You gladly put up with fools since you are so wise! 20 In fact, you even put up with anyone who enslaves you or exploits you or takes advantage of you or puts on airs or slaps you in the face."  2 Cor 11

    Who were those fools?  Most likely false teachers, or fallen anointed ones.  (2 Pet 3:17; Heb 12:15)

    The anointed in the Wt. kowtow to the "Gentile" man of lawlessness, who spiritually slap them in the face, by expecting obedience to their man-given role.  2 Thess 2:3,4; 1 Cor 3:16,17

    9 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    When teaching a false equivalency, it becomes a false doctrine, manipulated by unsound practices. I believe JW's don't fall into that trap.

     
    Most certainly, they have.  Matt 24:4,5,24,25; 48-51; John 16:2; Rev 8:10,11; 9:1-4; Rev 13:1,2,11,12,14-17; 16:13-16
     
     
     
  17. I get the feeling that Allen has shown up again.

    15 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    If the reference is about 1914, and 1975 for example, then, people that deny Christ, denies written knowledge found within the pages of scripture.

    The only significance about the date 1914, which some of Wt’s earlier leaders desired to drop but were cowards to do so…its significance that one should take note of, is its relationship to the “man of lawlessness” being revealed. 

    “The year 1914 began what the Bible calls “the Lord’s day.” W 92/12/1

    “As Jehovah’s witnesses we are intensely interested in Revelation, for we recognize that since 1914 we have been living in the “Lord’s day.”  Km 5/70 pp. 3-6

    “Now we request you, brethren, with regard to the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, that you not be quickly shaken from your composure or be disturbed either by a spirit or a message or a letter as if from us to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.”  2 Thess 2:1,2

    The expression, “The Lord’s day” is the same as “the day of the Lord”. 

    Who’s speaking in the scripture?  It is the apostle Paul, who is directing the message coming from “us”,  the anointed in Christ at the time. 

    The leaders of the Wt. – men who are part of anointed “Israel”, have announced the message that 1914 was the arrival of “the day of the Lord”. 

    “Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy  comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction.”  2 Thess 2:3

    Okay, the man of lawlessness arrives BEFORE the day of Lord is here.  Have your leaders announced who the “man of lawlessness” is?  Yes.  Your leaders teach that the “man of lawlessness” is Christendom.  (Wt. 90/2/1 pg 20-21)

    So….why are they saying that the Lord’s day has arrived, which that announcement comes after the man of lawlessness has been revealed?  What confusion of teachings, but that is predictable in the organization. 

    The truth is, your leaders have announced a false date of the coming of the “day of the Lord’, to cover over the exact location of the man of lawlessness, who “takes his seat in the temple of God”.  (2 Thess 2:4)

    Is Christendom where God’s temple is found?  The scripture specifically says “GOD’S TEMPLE”, not a fake temple, but His authentic spiritual Temple.  

    It 2, vol. 2, page 1083 – “Anointed Christians—A Spiritual Temple. Anointed Christians on earth are likened to a number of things, including a temple. This comparison is fitting because God’s spirit dwells within the congregation of anointed ones.”

    The anointed are found in the Wt., THEY ARE THE SPIRITUAL TEMPLE OF GOD. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)

    So, how does the “man of lawlessness” “take his seat” in God’s spiritual Temple?  The elder body has taken the place of God’s priests/anointed/”living stones” of His Temple and RULES OVER THEM – JUDGED THEM, COUNCELS THEM,WHEN THIS JOB WAS GIVEN TO GOD’S PRIESTS (Mal 2:7)  Would the apostles have caved to the elders, and allowed them to rule over the foundation (which they are) of the spiritual Temple built on the Body of Christ? 

    w02 8/1 p. 13-14

    When push comes to shove, the massive elder body, at the wish of spiritual harlots of “Israel”, (Ezek 16:15-17; Hos 4:12) have trampled down the Temple of God.  (Matt 24:48-51; Dan 8:10-13,24)

    You either love the arrangement, or you leave it behind.   (Matt 24:15,16; 2 Thess 2:8-12)

    I suggest you listen to the words of Christ, not those of men; and flee the Watchtower. (Rev 11:1,2; 18:4-8)

    Can’t any of you JWs get it through your head that it is an abomination to God if anyone not anointed dismisses His priests, acts as His priests, or “stands” in His Temple, “takes his seat” in His Temple,  and rules over His appointed priesthood?  Why do you disregard the word of God, and love your idol and false priesthood in the elder body, over God Himself?  (Num 18:19; 2 Chron 13:5; 23:6,7; Ezek 44:6-9)

    “Therefore when you see the abomination of desolation which was spoken of through Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place (let the reader understand), 16 then those who are in Judea must flee to the mountains.” Matt 24:15,16

    “But when you see the abomination of desolation standing where he ought not to be (let the reader understand), then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains."      Mark 13:14

     

     

     

  18. 51 minutes ago, Moise Racette said:

    An Organization that follows Jesus teachings can only be a fine example on how not to listen to old and forgotten members that just couldn't appreciate those teachings.

    I don’t believe anywhere in Jesus’ teachings did he ever support false prophesy and the doctrine of men.  To say that JWs follow the teachings of Christ when their leaders have made many false predictions, and set doctrine based on their organization that must be obeyed, is a slap in the face of Christ. He warned us to avoid false prophets/false teachers; not to embrace them. (Matt 24:4,5,24,25; 7:15-20; Mark 13:22; Luke 17:22,23)

     

  19. 3 hours ago, Arauna said:

    You see nothing we do for jehovah is vanity or in vain.  Wasting time on other pursuits is vanity as Solomon said.  

    If it is a “privilege” to be called a pioneer, an elder, a ministerial servant – all classes that receive special attention, with elders receiving “honor” - then vanity is involved.

    God is not partial; but the Watchtower “spirit-directed” image/idol, certainly is. (Rom 1:25; Rev 13:15)

    “Unless the Lord builds a house, its builders labor over it in vain; unless the Lord watches over a city, the watchman stays alert in vain.”  Ps 127:1

    I.Usage - emptiness, vanity, falsehood

    A.               emptiness, nothingness, vanity

    B.               emptiness of speech, lying

    C.                worthlessness (of conduct)

    The organization, built by men, is a total act of vanity and rebellion against the house God has built on the body of His Son.  John 2:19,21; 1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22; 4:4-16

    At the end of the day, that is the “house” that will stand.  Dan 4:17; Matt 16:18; Rev 3:12; 21:22-24; 1-4; 5:9,10

    Everything else is vanity and a chasing after the wind.  Eccl 1:14

     

     

     

     

  20. If the cart is "just to be seen" by a driver at a busy intersection, who should have their eyes on the road, (according to law)  then why do JWs bother going door-to-door, bringing the message directly to the person? 

  21. 15 hours ago, Moise Racette said:

    In my commentary, did I suggest some did? Over thinking. However, it appears the post most relates to people that were in a church, now they just want their ideology recognized.

    You were never a JW, I take it.

     

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