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  1. Dear @Arauna, Jesus said, “Do not think that I came to bring peace on earth. I did not come to bring peace but a sword. 35 For I have come to ‘set (“alienate”) a man against his father, a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law’; 36 and ‘a man’s enemies will be those of his own household.’ 37 He who loves father or mother more than Me is not worthy of Me. And he who loves son or daughter more than Me is not worthy of Me. 38 And he who does not take his cross and follow after Me is not worthy of Me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for My sake will find it. Matt 10:34-39 This is being fulfilled in the Watchtower organization, the place that promotes a false sense of “peace and security”. (1 Thess 5:3) Those who follow Christ and not men, “lose” their life and family that they had known, through disfellowshipping. Jesus began ruling since the first century; at the end of Armageddon, he will “deliver the kingdom to God the Father, when He puts an end to all rule and all authority and power.” 1 Cor 15:24 Then, the Kingdom of God begins. We cannot follow and obey Jesus Christ and obey all the rules and regulations of false prophets also. 2 Cor 6:14-18 If you truly care to follow Christ, and speak for his truth, in no time at all you also would be spiritually "killed" by your leaders. Rev 13:15 Once you lose that life, solely for the sake of Christ...you will find eternal life. Only then, will you experience the peace Jesus Christ offers us. Matt 11:28 "Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. 12 Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matt 5:11,12 It is your organization which has authority and power over JWs and God's anointed ones, that consistently persecutes people, and teaches its members to do the same. Unlike your "slave", I have no followers. Jesus does.
  2. I don’t believe I have made the claim that I know everything, but this is a deep-seated belief of mine, which anyone can accept or reject. It was an anointed brother who brought this to my attention quite a few years ago. That’s right, a brother who also was ousted by the organization for rejecting falsehoods. (John 16:2; Rev 13:15) Besides, I think we both know that Arauna (it was she that received my comment) listens to whom she chooses when it fits her agenda, and pushes that agenda pretty strongly. Her belief system is a hodgepodge of her own theories and prophesies, mixed with teachings of the governing body. She claims her worldly experience attributes to her prophetic knowledge. (1 Cor 2:13,14) Yet, according to her, whatever I offer is poison and will kill anyone who accepts what I might say. She, on the other hand, who gives her own slant to the GB teachings is “safe” in the organization since she speaks highly of the very men she may disagree with. And, she is a staunch believer in the 1914 debacle. As many JWs do, she gives “testimony” about her god, “Jehovah” and his organization, instead of Jesus Christ. (Isa 46:5) If you want to believe that God decided to send his Holy Spirit on individuals to change how the tetrgrammaton should be dealt with and pronounced, as Arauna indicates, that’s your choice. It was written down in the inspired scriptures years before the invention of “Jehovah” emerged. She seems to indicate that somehow God was shamed until this point, which would include the time Jesus was on earth and the way he taught us to approach the Father. Because of this, the scriptures apparently needed adjusting, even though we are not to add or take away from the Word of God. Regardless, the Watchtower decided the scriptures require the fabricated name “Jehovah” to be inserted, even in places where the tetragrammaton never existed in the holy scriptures. I am not saying other translations don’t use “Jehovah”, but WT’s leaders seem to think it needs to flood His word a good 7,000 times. And they make sure they brag about it. Possibly, it is just opposite of what JWs/Arauna believes. What if God has exposed what His people have done by embracing not only a made up name that actually disgraces the meaning of the tetragrammaton, but a man-made organization that demeans the true Zion/Temple of God in the anointed priesthood. (Dan 7:7; 11:38; Rev 13:1-8; 11:1-3,7; 1 Cor 3:16,17) These are pieces of the puzzle that Satan the Destroyer, has devised to deceive the remnant into believing a lie. (Rev 16:13-16; Joel 3:14) Arauna quotes Joel 2:26. The locust army came against God’s people because of their sins. (Joel 2:12,13) God’s name then and now, is “shamed” by the actions of His anointed priesthood, and those with them, who profess to know Him, but choose to listen to the assumed authority and power of men and their falsehoods, instead of listening to their Master, Jesus Christ. (Matt 24:48-51; Rev 18:4-8) https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-name.html
  3. I believe they certainly suffer an imbalance. I feel that to be a true witness to truth requires being a witness not only for God, but also for Jesus, who is truth. (John 14:6; 17:17) The Old Testament prophets were God’s witnesses who bore testimony also of Jesus Christ, by speaking God’s word about him. Rev 19:10; (Jer 5:14) We know Jesus is God’s “faithful and true witness” (Rev 1:5; 3:14) to truth, and those priests/members of his Body are also to be God’s “witnesses” to truth. “You are my witnesses”— this is the Lord’s declaration— “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and believe me and understand that I am he. No god was formed before me, and there will be none after me.” Isa 43:10 The people I formed for myself will declare my praise. Isa 43:21 “But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light.” 1 Pet 2:9 So again, I feel being a “witness” of God requires giving “testimony of Jesus” – to his words of TRUTH. Adding to his words nullifies in one's mind, not only truth, but Christ’s witness and testimony. It also nullifies that person becoming or existing as a faithful and true “witness” of God. It is sad to see this in the organization, where truth has no foothold, since falsehoods have been taught to thousands over the years. (how do they dismiss affecting so many lives, so easily? how can those leaders sleep, knowing that they taught people to live a lie?) Truth from Christ is sterling, not corroded in any way; not needing a polishing up to make it acceptable. John 6:27; Rev 3:18 Since Jesus and the Father are one, a true priest/“witness” would be one in truth with them. To his disciples: “Whoever listens to you listens to me. Whoever rejects you rejects me. And whoever rejects me rejects the one who sent me.” Luke 10:16 “All things havebeen entrusted to me by my Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and who the Father is except the Son, and anyone to whom the Son desires to reveal him.” Luke 10:22 Jesus told him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me. John 14:6 JWs will disagree, but Jesus is subtly rejected in the organization, so the concerted effort is on “Jehovah”. This is how JWs have learned from their leaders, to “witness”. Yet, who can know the Father except for those who approach Christ? Is that even possible for JWs? Absolutely not. Wt 20/4/pp 20-25 “The second challenge is that we are not able to speak to Jesus. When we pray, we direct our thoughts to Jehovah. True, we do pray in Jesus’ name, but we do not talk directly to him. In fact, Jesus does not want us to pray to him. Why not? Because prayer is a form of worship, and only Jehovah should be worshipped. (Matt. 4:10) Even so, we can express our love for Jesus. There we go. One scripture that is to prove we cannot speak to Jesus; even though in that one scripture, Jesus was talking to Satan, telling HIM to worship the Father only. No man, no person, was in the conversation. It had to do with the war that began between them in Genesis 3:15. So, from one scripture they say Jesus does not want us to pray to him. Incredible! Jesus is totally cut out of the life of JWs; and the anointed members of his body who are silenced, have been cut off from their Head. Their restriction from speaking with Jesus shows lawlessness is active and causing spiritual 'disaster' in the organization. 2 Thess 2:9-12 It is not much different than the Pharisees rejecting Christ, only this time, Wt’s leaders preach “another Jesus”. 2 Cor 11:4 “But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You lock up the kingdom of heaven from people. For you don’t go in, and you don’t allow those entering to go in.” “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to make one proselyte, and when he becomes one, you make him twice the son of Gehenna as you are!” Matt 23:13-15 How can JWs understand what it means to give a testimony of Jesus Christ, when they have no relationship with him? And who doesn't want us to have a relationship with Christ? It is the same powerful individual that wants us to bow down and worship him, instead of God and Christ.
  4. I have never heard that it was an example of humility, but rather glorifying Jesus was in essence, glorifying God. And, I don't remember God ever calling himself "Jehovah" in the Bible Jesus is “‘the stone you builders rejected, which has become the cornerstone.’ 12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.” Acts 4:11,12 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, 10 that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, 11 and every tongue acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Phil 2:2-11 Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28 When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. 1 Cor 15:24-28 10 Then I fell at his feet to worship him, but he said to me, “Don’t do that! I am a fellow servant with you and your brothers and sisters who hold firmly to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God, because the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy.” Rev 19:10 JWs appear to hold firm to the testimony of "Jehovah".
  5. Even though the name YHWH is etymologically difficult to explain, to a Hebrew audience it may have looked very much like He Who Causes "That Which Is" To Be. https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/YHWH.html#.XpWcl8hKg2w Before the hybridization of the tetragrammaton, the Jews used the word, “Adonai”, which is“Lord” in translation. Literally, it means, “My foundation”. “Jehovah” - Artificial hybrid of the names YHWH and Adonai. – Latin mixed with Hebrew, and you believe this is through the power of Holy Spirit that “Jehovah” was born? It’s like a Hebrew slang word with a meaning that is totally the opposite of “He who causes that which is to be”; which is, “a ruin, a disaster”. It is true that the majority of JWs believe “Jehovah” is the sacred name of God. It is a like a talisman, and I remember using it myself, believing it had some sort of magical power to save me from harm. What amazes me now, is the ignorance in believing that Satan had nothing to do with changing the sacred use of His name. Abarim publications quoted a scripture that should show anyone who cares, just how sacred God’s name is: Judges 13: Then Manoah said to the Angel of the Lord, “Please let us detain You, and we will prepare a young goat for You.” 16 And the Angel of the Lord said to Manoah, “Though you detain Me, I will not eat your food. But if you offer a burnt offering, you must offer it to the Lord.” (For Manoah did not know He was the Angel of the Lord.) 17 Then Manoah said to the Angel of the Lord, “What is Your name, that when Your words come to pass we may honor You?” 18 And the Angel of the Lord said to him, “Why do you ask My name, seeing it is wonderful?” “wonderful” – wonderful, incomprehensible, extraordinary פִּלְאִי pilʼîy, pil-ee'; or פָּלִיא pâlîyʼ; from H6381; remarkable:—secret, wonderful. Since Jesus was the spokesperson for God, (as the Logos), this most likely was him who visited Manoah and his wife. If his name in heaven was “incomprehensible”, wouldn't God's name be even moreso? 9 In this manner, therefore, pray: Our Father in heaven, Hallowed be Your name. Matt 6:9 “Hallowed” - ἁγιάζω hagiázō, hag-ee-ad'-zo; from G40; to make holy, i.e. (ceremonially) purify or consecrate; (mentally) to venerate:—hallow, be holy, sanctify. I’m sorry, but the name “Jehovah” does not venerate the Almighty God.
  6. Just recently, a massive, devastating locust plague made its way across areas of eastern Africa, threatening livelihoods and food supply, with new swarms developing from heavy rains experienced last month. This plague is expected to continue until the beginning of the harvest season in June and July, at the least. The countries of Yemen, Iran, and Pakistan are also on alert, as the development of a “new generation” makes headway into new territory. They appear to be unstoppable, as long as the conditions are favorable to support their life cycle. Individual locusts experience a transformation that allows a swarm to develop; from the inconspicuous looking grasshopper, to a bold color change accenting their new aggressive attitude, and eating habits that contribute to accelerated size and strength. They are a desert creature, needing moisture to sustain the eggs they lay, which also produces a bumper crop of vegetation to feed on, once hatched. When I investigated the characteristics and habits of what is called a swarm of “gregarious” locusts, the locust army in Joel 2 took on further understanding of its application today, as an army whose intent is to destroy God’s “land”. (Joel 2:2,3; Rev 9:3,4,710; 13:2,7; 20:7-9) Most of us are aware that the organization just recently updated their view of the locust attack in Joel. It is rather incredible that it has taken many years to reach the conclusion that the anointed are not that particular “swarm”. The excuse given for their error, is that it wasn’t time for God to reveal its true identity. Perhaps instead of blaming God for deliberately hiding the truth for decades, the governing leaders should be held accountable to their admission of not being “inspired” by Holy Spirit. (2 Cor 11:3,4,13-15) Until reading their April magazine article, I had understood that this “new light” revealed two locust armies that would be present in the last days. Instead, the organization segregates the locust account in Revelation 9 from that in Joel by saying Joel’s locusts had their fulfillment during the early Babylonian siege. True, but as witnessed continually in God’s word, the history and actions of God’s people, echo again and again, right down to today. The ancient prophesy in Joel has further fulfillment in our day. (Isa 13:9; Zeph 1:15; Joel 1:15; 2:2; 3:14-16; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 8:12; 9:3,11,12; 16:13-16) I noticed that the WT’s focus was on the wickedness of the army in Joel, and not the reason why God allowed the army to devastate His wayward people. ( Joel 1:5,8-12; 2:12-14) During the time they taught that the anointed “Israel” were the now understood “wicked” locust swarm, I wonder how it escaped their notice that God’s nation of Israel was the army’s target. And still, it is taught that the anointed “Israel” today are Revelation’s devastating locusts. I hope if you compare the scriptures, you can determine they are the same army that comes against God’s people in the last days. God allows our exposure to this locust swarm as a discipline, leading to our cleansing and repentance from the organizations lies. (Joel 1:13; Lam 2:14; Rev 3:18; 11:3) “When I shut up heaven and there is no rain, or command the locusts to devour the land, or send pestilence among My people, if My people who are called by My name will humble themselves, and pray and seek My face, and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin and heal their land.” 2 Chron 7:13,14 That army is the elder body/”man of lawlessness” ruling over God’s “land”; His anointed priesthood, who do not have the seal of God upon their foreheads. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17;1 Cor 3:9;Eph 2:20-22; Matt 24:15; Mark 13:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2) (Joel 1:6; Rev 9:4) (Rev 3:12;7:4) Instead, they carry the mark of an organization; the “mark of the Beast” which is the mark of an idol. JWs receive this mark not only at baptism, but through all activities performed for the organization. Anyone who recognizes this destructive body of elders and refuses to acknowledge their power over him, is “killed” – disfellowshipped; which ultimately removes the mark of the Beast. (Rev 13:1,4-10,15-17; 19:20) The GB or their “helpers” developed a basic comparison chart that they label, “similar but different” Using Joel 1:4; 2:7-9,20: They are from the north Vegetation is devastated Eventually, they are driven away Joel’s locust depict the Babylonian army that invaded Jerusalem. Using Rev. 9:1-11: They are not from the north, but come out of the abyss (the place of “not perceiving”) They are not to harm the vegetation (UNTIL God’s holy people are sealed – Rev 9:4;7:3) They finish their work (When the locust army/Beast from the Sea/man of lawlessness has finished its work, it will no longer exist - Rev 17:8; Rev 20:7-10) And it is assumed that they are “Jehovah’s anointed servants” proclaiming judgment messages. This is a bare-bones comparison chart of error, that most JWs will accept as “proper food at the proper time”. By using God’s Word, Pearl Doxsey’s article explains in depth why His people today are under attack by a great army of symbolic locusts, that is the catalyst which brings about the Great Tribulation and Armageddon. I encourage you to read, “The Greatest Tribulation -- What and Why?” on her blog. Can it be dismissed that the locust swarms the country of Africa is suffering from, has accomplished incredible damage to the vegetation…to the food supply? If Revelation’s locusts symbolize the anointed presenting the organization’s supply of spiritual food (Rev 13:16,17), which is said to cause the listener to become “very uncomfortable”, isn’t this contradictory to the instinctive drive of a swarm of locusts? Since when do locusts carry their own food supply? And, who in the “preaching work” are so uncomfortable by JW’s initial message that they “seek death”? (Rev 9:6) As the locusts transform from solitary creatures into a blackened swarming powerhouse, they crave carbohydrate-rich foods, and their favorite is in the form of grains. God’s priesthood, or “sons of the kingdom” who are to follow the footsteps of Christ, are compared to wheat grain. (Matt 13:23,37,38) They are to carry the “seed”, the word of God in their hearts; yet they are the first and foremost target of the locusts described in both Bible books. (Luke 8:11,12; Rev 9:4) Satan, who demands to sift God’s people “as wheat” is fueling the intentions of this locust army, to turn their hearts into “weeds”, using poison-induced teachings leading God’s people into idolatry. (Luke 22:31; Matt 13:30; Rev 9:1-3; 8:10,11;16:13,14; Rev 13:4) Satan sows misleading lies in our heart, as "weeds" (Eph 4:22; 2 Thess 2:10; James 1:15; Matt 13:25; 1 Pet 2:11). As those deceptive desires and illusions/"weeds" grow and mature, they choke out the word from our heart (Matt 13:7; Luke 8:7,14; Gal 6:8). When these hearts come to maturity, the appearance of the heart is full of weeds/thorns. The identity of that heart then, is a weed (Matt 13:38; Ps 37:1,2; Ezek 2:6; 28:24; 2 Sam 23:6; Isa 51:12; Micah 7:4). Pearl Doxsey These desert locust swarms are as one article put it, “opportunists”, who breed and forage where vegetation growth is aided by plentiful rain. God’s word of truth in Christ is compared to “living water”, which nourishes the faithful heart of the anointed and all who accept their teachings. (Prov 10:11; John 4:14; 7:38; Matt 5:6; Mark 9:37) The anointed receive a “token” of Holy Spirit that “writes” the laws of God through Christ, onto their heart. (Matt 13:12; 2 Cor 1:21,22; Heb 8:10) Effectively, the elder body/Beast/symbolic locusts have taken the opportunity to target, infiltrate and desolate the hearts of God’s lush “beautiful land” and dwelling (1 Cor 3:16,17) spreading spiritual darkness, famine and thirst to all in the organization. (Amos 8:9-11; Rev 6:6-8; 13:15-17) Those anointed priests who submit to the power of this counterfeit priesthood, can lose all sense of God’s righteous decrees through their act of idolatry, acceptance of lies and the wicked ruler-ship over them. (Mal 2:7-9; Num 18:7; Ezek 44:6-9) "Listen to me, you who know righteousness, the people in whose heart is my instruction: do not fear disgrace by men, and do not be shattered by their taunts. 8 For moths will devour them like a garment, and worms will eat them like wool. But my righteousness will last forever, and my salvation for all generations. I—I am the one who comforts you. Who are you that you should fear humans who die, or a son of man who is given up like grass? 13 But you have forgotten the Lord, your Maker, who stretched out the heavens and laid the foundations of the earth. You are in constant dread all day long because of the fury of the oppressor, who has set himself to destroy. But where is the fury of the oppressor? 14 The prisoner is soon to be set free; he will not die and go to the Pit, and his food will not be lacking." Isa 51:7,8,12-14 And one last thought; these uniquely transformed locusts become attracted to the odor of a toxic plant substance, which attributes to their own toxicity and possible color change from grey, to bright yellow and black. This is a plant alkaloid used in the pharmaceutical world for several reasons, but its downside is harmful effects on the nervous system and vision. “Wormwood” has her army at her side, drunk on her toxic waters, while sharing dominion over God’s “land”, as together they bring “truth to the ground” (Dan 7:23;8:12; Rev 13:1,2; 8:10,11; Matt 24:48-51; Rev 13:11,12; 17:3,15) Those under the influence of that organization and it's leaders, are drinking the wine of the vine of Satan (Deut 32:32,33; Joel 3:13,14; Rev 14:18-20). Those who imbibe from that vine (instead of the vine and branches of Christ - (John 15:1,4,5,8), are spiritually drunk, and are unable to "Keep Awake" as Jesus commanded (Luke 21:34-36; 1 Thess 5:7; John 12:35). Just as it is nearly impossible to rouse an intoxicated person, it will be near to impossible to awaken one who is devoted to demonic deception (1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:13-16) Spiritual blindness can only be cured by Christ, who opens that no one can shut, and shuts that no one can open (Rev 3:7; Luke 24:45; Matt 13:11). We are ready to offer our scriptural reasons for hope (1 Pet 3:15; 1 Cor 9:16)... but only God can make them able to hear what the spirit says to the congregations (1 John 1:5; Ps 36:9; Luke 11:13; 1 Cor 2:10; Matt 11:15). “Pay attention to me, my people, and listen to me, my nation; for instruction will come from me, and my justice for a light to the nations. I will bring it about quickly. 5 My righteousness is near, my salvation appears, and my arms will bring justice to the nations. The coasts and islands will put their hope in me, and they will look to my strength. For the Lord will comfort Zion; he will comfort all her waste places, and he will make her wilderness like Eden, and her desert like the garden of the Lord. Joy and gladness will be found in her, thanksgiving and melodious song.” Isa 51:4,5,6 “Don’t be afraid, land; rejoice and be glad, for the Lord has done astonishing things. 22 Don’t be afraid, wild animals, for the wilderness pastures have turned green, the trees bear their fruit, and the fig tree and grapevine yield their riches. 23 Children of Zion, rejoice and be glad in the Lord your God, because he gives you the autumn rain for your vindication. He sends showers for you, both autumn and spring rain as before. 24 The threshing floors will be full of grain, and the vats will overflow with new wine and fresh oil. 25 I will repay you for the years that the swarming locust ate, the young locust, the destroying locust, and the devouring locust— my great army that I sent against you. 26 You will have plenty to eat and be satisfied. You will praise the name of the Lord your God, who has dealt wondrously with you. My people will never again be put to shame. 27 You will know that I am present in Israel and that I am the Lord your God, and there is no other. My people will never again be put to shame.” Joel 2:21-27 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ “Mark of the Beast” For more understanding on the meaning of “abyss”, please see: “What is Sheole/Hades?” “Christ’s Return – When?” “Great Tribulation – Two Phases” “Wheat and Weed seeds grow up and mature” “Earth Swallows Satan’s River” “How Do We Warn Them?”
  7. And I suppose they would pay for the 8 million plus flight tickets? For surely, those who can barely scrape up a donation, will otherwise be left out in the cold. Honestly, Kosonen, I fear your speculations will hold you accountable before Christ. Matt 12:37 Revelation's "woman" symbolizes those under the "woman" New Covenant - "Jerusalem Above". Gal 4:22-26 http://pearl-thewoman.blogspot.com/
  8. From the Watchtower: @4Jah2me has given ample proof that "Jehovah" is an inaccurate pronunciation. The GB itself has given you ample proof. Sometimes, our own arrogance does not allow us to see truth.
  9. The signs are spiritual, not literal. SATAN'S signs are literal. Your desire to see literal fulfillment is no different than the Pharisees. This is what the Lord, your Redeemer who formed you from the womb, says: I am YHVH, who made everything; who stretched out the heavens by Myself; who alone spread out the earth; 25 who destroys the omens of the false prophets and makes fools of diviners; who confounds the wise and makes their knowledge foolishness; 26 who confirms the message of His servant and fulfills the counsel of His messengers; who says to Jerusalem, “She will be inhabited,” and to the cities of Judah, “They will be rebuilt,” and I will restore her ruins Isa 44:24-26 "An evil and adulterous generation demands a sign, but no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah." Then he left them and went away." Matt 16:4 I wish you could understand this.
  10. I have a brother who would call my mother by her name, but only when upset with her. Sometimes that lasted for years.
  11. Are you saying this work was on account of a miracle? You have it backwards again, Arauna. It was Jesus’ word against the leadership of the Pharisees. Today, it is any sole anointed and their words of truth, against today’s 8 “Pharisees”. Rev 13: 11,12, 14-17; Dan 11:27 You know! Those in leadership at the time this piece of fine “fruit” was published? Instead of being hung on a stake for speaking truth, they are considered spiritually "dead". John 16:2; Rev 13:15 But, you probably will excuse it, and all other false doctrine by the WT, expecting everyone affected by this false teaching to just suck it up I suppose, and deal with it. Jesus spoke out against liars and their lies. And, he warned those of his “household” (Eph 2:19-22) what their own people would call them who did the same, It is enough for a disciple that he be like his teacher, and a servant like his master. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more will they call those of his household! Matt 1025
  12. I never called my father by his first name, did you? For thousands of years, the name “Jehovah” was never used. Jesus never used it. Isn’t he our prime example to follow? Yes. So, WHY do we choose what MEN say is proper? But the organization’s leaders decide to splash their entire Bible with a made-up name and exalt it, as if it is the tetragrammaton itself. There will be pros and cons to using the name “Jehovah”. No matter what one scholar may say to defend it, it is not the tetragrammaton. It is, as this reference put it, an “artificial” creation. Some Christians, and especially Jehovah's witnesses, use this name for the Heavenly Father. However, every scholar and every reference book I have ever checked on "Jehovah" (including Jehovah's witness tracts) has said that this is not the way you pronounce His name! First of all it is impossible because of the fact that the Hebrew language has no "J" sound! According to the Encyclopedia Britannica, 1991 under the heading "Yahweh", here is how this name came into being: "The Masoretes, who from about the 6th to the 10th century worked to reproduce the original text of the Hebrew Bible, replaced the vowels of the name YHWH with the vowel signs of the Hebrew word Adonai or Elohim. Thus the artificial name Jehovah (YeHoWaH) came into being." So we see here one of many confirmations that the name Jehovah is not really His name at all! But it is a artificial name that was invented by man. Does man have the right to change the name of the one who created him? I think not! But that is exactly what has happened here. Now let's look a little more deeply into this name Jehovah. Notice that many Hebrew names contain the first part of Yahweh's name which is Yah. This is true in the name Isa-YAH (Hebrew: YeshaYAH), which means "Yah is Salvation". Also in Jeremi-Yah (Hebrew: YermeYAH), Obadiah, Zechariah, and so on. Taking this knowledge, apply this to the name Je-hovah with Jeh being the first part of His name. First of all it doesn't add up when it comes to the names of these prophets. (Isaiah's name isn't IsaJEH) Second, the Hovah part of Je-hovah means RUIN and MISCHIEF in Hebrew according to Strong's Concordance #1943: #1943 Hovah, another form for 1942; RUIN:-MISCHIEF Is this a good description of our Creator? Surely not! http://www.eliyah.com/jhovah.htm It actually is broken down, but notice the emphasis is on “hovaw”: יְהֹוָה Yᵉhôvâh, yeh-ho-vaw'; from H1961; (the) self-Existent or Eternal; Jeho-vah, Jewish national name of God:—Jehovah, the Lord. Compare H3050, H3069. H1961: הָיָה hâyâh, haw-yaw; a primitive root (compare H1933); to exist, i.e. be or become, come to pass (always emphatic, and not a mere copula or auxiliary):—beacon, × altogether, be(-come), accomplished, committed, like), break, cause, come (to pass), do, faint, fall, follow, happen, × have, last, pertain, quit (one-) self, require, × use. H1933: הָוָא hâvâʼ, haw-vaw'; or הָוָה hâvâh; a primitive root (compare H183, H1961) supposed to mean properly, to breathe; to be (in the sense of existence):—be, × have. You can keep going, following all the comparisons. This doesn’t discount the meaning of “hovah” (again, shown as “ho-vaw’”) H1943: הֹוָה hôvâh, ho-vaw'; another form for H1942; ruin:—mischief. H1942: הַוָּה havvâh, hav-vaw'; from H1933 (in the sense of eagerly coveting and rushing upon; by implication, of falling); desire; also ruin:—calamity, iniquity, mischief, mischievous (thing), naughtiness, naughty, noisome, perverse thing, substance, very wickedness. See H1933 above. What we believe, utter and practice, is our choice; yet, I can see that there is a line that can be crossed where an individual’s blaspheming the name of the Almighty God can be taken for granted, and excused away. What may feel comfortable to us and what men approve, may not be acceptable to God. “And whoever blasphemes the name of the Lord shall surely be put to death. All the congregation shall certainly stone him, the stranger as well as him who is born in the land. When he blasphemes the name of the Lord, he shall be put to death.” Lev 24:16 I don't care to take the chance of blaspheming the name of God. Do I hate the organization, as you claim? It defies the true Zion built on the anointed Temple/Body of Christ. (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) It has brought ruin and disaster to many lives. I care for its people, but I hate its lies.
  13. Ok. The act of 'chopping' is exactly how the rendition of "Jehovah" came about: w60 8/1 pp. 453-455 Not Forgetting the Name of God Hebrew, like other Semitic languages, has no vowel letters, but even in early times vowel signs were used. These vowels, according to Adams, “are indicated by ‘points’ or little symbols—usually dots, resembling small periods. So when scholars of the early Modern Age began translating the Bible into English they devised what were sometimes wrong interpretations of the vowels.” The name-form Jehovah came to be when early translators took the vowels of Adonayʹ and inserted them between the consonants JHVH, and then changed the original “a” to “e” to aid in pronunciation of the name. Recent discoveries show this form of the name as early as A.D. 1270 in Raymond Martini’s Pugio Fidei. So the name-form Jehovah is one of long usage. Notwithstanding, it is almost certain that the name of God was originally pronounced “Yah·wehʹ.” (In “Jehovah” the sound of “Y” is represented by “J” and the sound of “W” by “V,” as in Latin.) The Encyclopædia Britannica says: “It is now generally agreed that Jahwe (Yahwe) is the true pronunciation.” The Universal Jewish Encyclopedia states: “Yahveh is the most probable transliteration of the ancient Hebrew name for God.” Bible translator J. B. Rotherham said: “The true pronunciation seems to have been Yahwe.” The Catholic Encyclopedia declares: “Jehovah, the proper name of God in the Old Testament. . . . Inserting the vowels of Jabe [the Samaritan pronunciation] into the original Hebrew consonant text, we obtain the form Jahveh (Yahweh), which has been generally accepted by modern scholars as the true pronunciation of the Divine name.” The New World Bible Translation Committee stated: “While inclining to view the pronunciation ‘Yah·wehʹ” as the more correct way, we have retained the form ‘Jehovah’ because of people’s familiarity with it since the 14th century. Moreover, it preserves, equally with other forms, the four letters of the tetragrammaton JHVH.” Does it really preserve the four letters of the tetragrammaton? How can it, when it was "aided" to become a pronounceable name? Because "hovah' is indeed a Hebrew word, it still portrays a "god of" "ruin, disaster".
  14. I understand what you are saying; but tell me, did the early Jews ever incorporate the Hebrew word "hovah" into a name? H1943 הֹוָה hôvâh, ho-vaw'; another form for H1942; ruin:—mischief. Therefore shall evil come upon thee; thou shalt not know from whence it riseth: and mischief H1943 shall fall upon thee; thou shalt not be able to put it off: and desolation shall come upon thee suddenly, which thou shalt not know. Isa 47:11 Mischief H1943 shall come upon mischief, H1943 and rumour shall be upon rumour; then shall they seek a vision of the prophet; but the law shall perish from the priest, and counsel from the ancients. Ezek 7:26
  15. I was thinking of my family’s resources for drinking water where I live. One son receives gravity fed spring water from a jagged faced mountain across the road, that has been tested to be on par with the cleanest source of drinking water in the U.S. It is delicious. Our other son’s well taps into water that has seeped through bedrock under the flowing waters of a mountain stream, located just a few hundred yards from his little house. It too, is delicious and refreshing. On the other hand, the well water I drink must be filtered twice, to remove any murky sediment and gravel bits, to ensure an adequate drinking source. Although my well was dug into the earth at a depth of 365 feet to miss the iron layer that pollutes many water systems in the area, I have had better mountain well water than what I drink from now. My son’s well is 150’ deep and of course there is only a holding tank to capture the spring water feeding my other son’s 90 year-old cabin. So, what is the definition of pure drinking water? My source must be made purer than its original form, but it will never be considered pure; whereas I believe the two other sources are naturally purified and superior drinking sources. Robert Luccioni, a GB helper recently used the term “pure waters of truth”, as never before offered by the organization. Has the WT’s water/teachings ever been truly “pure”? And are they today? The speaker defended his source of spiritual provisions by using an exaggerated argument. He said all around the world you will find “brothers and sisters” feeling closer to the organization than ever before. How does this statement show the organization has “pure waters of truth”? Numbers and growth of a religion do not prove anything, since there are many religious organizations that teach lies with much larger numbers than the WT. (Luke 13:24; Matt 7:21) This GB helper left a vague picture of an earthly organization producing what is deemed as the only spring of “living waters” that one could find on this earth. Here is our true source: “Now on the last and greatest day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried out, ‘If anyone is thirsty, let him come to me and drink! He who believes in me, as the Scripture has said, from within him will flow rivers of living water.’” John 7:37,38 "But whoever drinks from the water that I will give him will never get thirsty again. In fact, the water I will give him will become a well of water springing up in him for eternal life." John 4:14 A true disciple of Christ would be distinguished by the water source he or she “drinks” from; and subsequently, offers to others. His “well”, or heart is filled with living water. (Luke 8:8,11,15) Certainly, JWs look toward the organization as the source of “living water”; but through the abundance of doctrinal errors, and changed teachings, much like dirty water filters, it show it has taken a route from the true, pure living water Source, Jesus Christ. It has contaminated Christ’s teachings with men’s ideas and deceitful lies. In this impure state, its ability to spiritually nourish one to “life”, is impossible. (1 Cor 10:21; Isa 28:8; 2 Tim 4:3,4) The speaker made an interesting comment which I will paraphrase. He said Satan’s intent is to ‘neutralize’, or eliminate the effect of…or ultimately dissolve…God’s “life-giving guidance”. Isn’t this exactly what the organization has done by neutralizing the truth from Christ, with a copious amount of “new light” in the form of men’s doctrines, historically and today? He quoted Jer 2:13 - “For My people have committed two evils: They have forsaken Me, the fountain of living waters, And hewn themselves cisterns—broken cisterns that can hold no water.” “Living water” is found at the Source, Jesus Christ; yet, at the time of the end, God’s people are thirsting for this life-giving water, with the majority not realizing it. Truth has slipped through their fingers. (Amos 8:10-12) The speaker mentioned one’s “treacherous heart” could stop a person from responding to God’s “directives”, or His wisdom. (Jer 17:9) These directives which the WT blatantly ignores, are found in Christ’s words. “A good person produces good out of the good stored up in his heart. An evil person produces evil out of the evil stored up in his heart, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.” Luke 6:45 “For there is no good tree that produces bad fruit, nor on the other hand a bad tree that produces good fruit, 44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorn plants, nor are grapes harvested from thorn bushes. 45 The good person out of the good treasury of his heart brings forth good, and the evil person out of his evil treasury brings forth evil. For out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks.” Luke 6:43-45 Can a well suddenly produce pristine water after offering a polluted version for years? Not my well. It is either just adequate to drink, or cloudy, indicating the filters need changing. I can always depend on sediment returning in my water system. In the organization, not only has years of sediment polluted their “waters”, but a heavy iron layer…the “man of lawlessness”/elder body…has corroded and weakened the hearts of the anointed who are to carry and teach the laws of God – the Truth of Christ’s Word. (Ezek 34:18,19) (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Heb 8:10; Mal 2:7) (Luke 21:20,21; Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1,2; 9:3,4,9,10; 13:5-7) Yet, those with eyes that see, have discovered that WT’s glass of “pure water”, is instead, pure poison. It is only those whose hearts are “treacherous”, believe their ‘filtered’ waters are now offering pure teachings of truth, never to be had before. From the beginning, the organization has leaned on its “own understanding”, outlined in Prov 3:5 and quoted by the speaker. “From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so! 11 A spring does not pour forth from the same opening fresh and bitter water, does it? 12 A fig tree is not able, my brothers, to produce olives, or a grapevine figs. Neither can a saltwater spring produce fresh water.” James 3:10-12 In the last days, there are two sources of waters – teachings – that declare to be truth; one that neutralizes any living truth from Christ, through the deceitful work of “Wormwood”. (Phil 2:15; 1 Cor 10:12; 2 Pet 2:1; Jude 1:12,13; Rev 9:1,2; 8:10,11) The other choice, is offered by Christ’s genuine faithful servants, producing “good fruit”; devoid of all the fanfare, organization, or exaltation of men with their assigned titles, or the sensational announcement of heightened numbers of “brothers and sisters” found all over the world. (John 7:18, 38; 16:13; Dan 12:4,9; Rev 22:6; 1:1; Rev 19:7,9,10; Matt 22:2,8,9) Jesus said, "Wisdom is PROVED RIGHTEOUS by its children/results/works" (Luke 7:35) (John 7:17,18; 8:54,50). Although the governing body claims that they are "the faithful slave", and they enforce that claim with an army of Gentile "elders"... If by their own admission, the "wisdom" that they previously declared, is conceded as error (needs to be changed), then it was never God's wisdom (Jer 14:14; 23:16,15; Rev 8:10,11). How does a teacher "PROVE RIGHTEOUS", and therefore, exhibit genuine wisdom? Rom 3:4 tells us... "Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written: "So that you may be *proved righteous* (John 7:18 16:13) when you speak, and prevail when you judge." There it is. If our speech is to be proven righteous and therefore wise and true, we must accept that God is true, and each of us, is a liar. We prove our belief that God is true, when we derive ALL we teach, from scripture (John 17:17; 16:13; 7:17,18) and Holy spirit (John 4:23,24). If we don't, it is not God who lied, but us. If our teachings are from God's Word, it will be found wise and true, and be proven righteous. It will not need to "vary" or change (1 John 1:5; James 1:17). Pearl Doxsey - "My Master is delaying" / Two witness policy “My child, do not forget my instruction, and may your heart guard my commands. 2 For length of days, years of life, and peace they shall add to you. 3 May loyal mercy and truth not forsake you; bind them around your neck, write them upon your heart. 4 And you shall find favor and understanding in the eyes of God and humankind. 5 Trust YHVH with all your heart; do not lean toward your own understanding. 6 In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will straighten your paths. 7 Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear YHVH and retreat from evil. 13 Happy is the one who finds wisdom, and one who obtains understanding. 14 For her income is better than the income of silver, and her revenue than that of gold. 15 She is more precious than rubies, and all your desires shall not compare with her. 16 Length of days is in her right hand; in her left hand are riches and honor. 17 Her ways are ways of pleasantness, and all her paths are peace. 18 She is a tree of life for those who seize her; those who take hold of her are considered happy.” Prov 3:1-7,13-18 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/ Famine and Thirst / "buying" / Scrolls / "Mark" Christ's Return -- When? "Wormwood" / The False Prophet / Armageddon “Who Has the Key to the Abyss?” The "Garden of Eden" / New Creation / Seven Spirits / Tree of Life / The True Vine Who are the "fine trees"? Matt 7:20
  16. Thank you, but what I understand about the meaning of "Jehovah" makes perfect sense to me. If you feel the need to justify using it, it is your choice.
  17. Are you saying that God didn't approve of the way His Son set up the commemoration of the last supper that he ate with the foundation members of God's Temple and Bride, that both God and Christ chose? Luke 22:19; John 15:16 Are you saying that with the advent of the organization, it is now time to ADD to the Bible through the addition of men's ideas of what is acceptable to God? Whatever I command you, you shall be careful to do; you shall not add to nor take away from it. Deut 12:32
  18. The question is, how many were invited to join Christ to "eat this Passover" with him? Luke 22:15 Only the organization has put a new twist on how the anointed should observe this supper. ONLY the organization has done so.
  19. How many parents research the meaning of names for their future children? I had three boys and each name we chose as parents, had a special meaning that, to this day, I have not forgotten. I can't fathom a new parent deliberately giving their newborn a name that research revealed it to be absolutely disgusting...but, maybe it happens. Yet, to take lightly what we call the Heavenly Father, as if He turns a blind eye to the obvious, is regretful. If Jesus was careful how he addressed His Father, I will be careful also. "Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.” John 4:21-24
  20. We have record of God calling Himself “elohym”, translated “God”. Gen 26:24; Deut 2:7, etc. אֱלֹהִים ʼĕlôhîym, el-o-heem'; plural of H433; gods in the ordinary sense; but specifically used (in the plural thus, especially with the article) of the supreme God; occasionally applied by way of deference to magistrates; and sometimes as a superlative:—angels, × exceeding, God (gods) (-dess, -ly), × (very) great, judges, × mighty. We have record of the Father using the word, “holy” – Exod. 19:6; Lev 11:44, etc. קָדוֹשׁ qâdôwsh, kaw-doshe'; or קָדֹשׁ qâdôsh; from H6942; sacred (ceremonially or morally); (as noun) God (by eminence), an angel, a saint, a sanctuary:—holy (One), saint. We know Jesus used the Greek word, “theos” for "God" – Mark 7:13; Matt 3:16, etc. θεός theós, theh'-os; of uncertain affinity; a deity, especially (with G3588) the supreme Divinity; figuratively, a magistrate; by Hebraism, very:—X exceeding, God, god(-ly, -ward). He used the Greek word "hagios" for “holy” – Matt 25:31; John 17:11, etc. ἅγιος hágios, hag'-ee-os; from ἅγος hágos (an awful thing) (compare G53, G2282); sacred (physically, pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonially, consecrated):—(most) holy (one, thing), saint. There is no instance where “Jehovah” is used in the inspired Word. If God never referred to it, nor Jesus, why would we? What is upsetting, is the term “Jehovah” is taught by the WT as His sacred name. One of the first things I was told by a JW was, “did you know God has a name?” I know better now, that the name which can be translated as a god of ruin, disaster, calamity, mischief, is not the the true name of the Father in Heaven. Just because it is "convenient" and well-known, doesn't mean it is acceptable to the one true God - the One who "causes to become". Joel 2:32 Can mere humans make judgment calls, in what may be acceptable to the Almighty God?
  21. To each his own. But, I'm not referring to days of the week or months. I'm talking about the Almighty God, YHVH. There's quite a big difference, wouldn't you say? I have no intention of mocking Him, by using a hybrid name developed by men.
  22. “Disaster"A prescientific word meaning "Bad Star” Interesting. And exactly why I refuse to say "Jehovah" when speaking about God. https://www.biblestudytools.com/lexicons/hebrew/kjv/hovah.html http://www.chosenofisrael.com/jehovah-not-gods-name.php Isa 14:12-15; Ezek 28:13-16
  23. After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying: “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom, Thanksgiving and honor and power and might, Be to our God forever and ever. Amen.” Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?” 14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.” So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. The "great" multitude (as in Matt 5:12) that comes out of the "great" tribulation, (as in Matt 4:16) is the faithful sealed, anointed remnant, serving in God's Temple. 1 Cor 3:16, - Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you? "having been built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ Himself being the chief cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole building, being fitted together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord, 22 in whom you also are being built together for a dwelling place of God in the Spirit. Eph 2:20-22 Only God's priests are allowed to serve in God's Temple. 1 Pet 2:5,9; Ezek 44:6-9; 2 Chron 13:9; Num 3:10 Once the New Covenant/promise made with Jesus' bodily members, is fulfilled, life will come to the rest of God's children in the Kingdom. The "marriage" of the Bride and Christ, brings forth life - children. "Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. 2 Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. 3 And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, “Behold, the tabernacle (mobile temple) of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God." Rev 21:1-3 "And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let him who hears say, “Come!” And let him who thirsts come. Whoever desires, let him take the water of life freely." Rev 22:17 https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/01/in-response-to-jan.html
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