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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    Today's "apostles" were not trained by Jesus. Not in literal way and not in some other way. JW leaders claiming how they not receiving "inspirational training" from Jesus. Reading Bible and thinking/mediate about text and prayers are only "training" they have. Imagine this: If real apostles in 1st century failed in many things after/despite training by Jesus, how much more errors can be expected from people who today claiming how they are (only) "guided by holy spirit"? 
    Saul of Tarsus was highly educated person. Today GB tells (teach) JW members how God and Jesus not need "higher education". Can we assume how Saul was well trained and excellent because of THIS background? And how Jesus had easier task to learned him and not need 3,5 years, because he got more effective mind as highly educated person? Do you suggest how 11 apostles had less desire to serve and learn?
    It is worrying to hear. In fact, enormously worrying!
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in "WATCHTOWER APPEALS TO THE SUPREME COURT"   
    It is possible to take this stand. But that has consequences too. Good? Or bad? If rain coming through roof of the house, will leaving thing to something or someone in the future bring to better or worst condition.
    God leave earthly things to be earthly human job. With good and bad outcomes. Bible said something like;    When the sentence for a crime is not quickly carried out, people’s hearts are filled with schemes to do wrong.
    This mantra,  platitudes - "live it to god", is not proper answer for many things we faced. For some things in life more time is needed, but not in a sense that JW people using this internal proverb with hope how something will be resolved without doing nothing or without interest and efforts for something. Victim need help in a way and quality and quantity that he/she as individual can manage and receive, in time and with time set by these specific individual.   
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    Witness got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    I wouldn’t even consider it.  The organization and its leaders have a tainted reputation, that goes way back.  Follow it, and tell me if you cannot perceive its deception. It breaks each of God’s laws in Christ, but has an uncanny ability to hide this fact from those who are more loyal to the organization than they are to God and His decrees. 
    Ps 119:18-24 
    I defend God, Arauna.  I defend Christ.  I don’t defend an illusion. And neither should you.   Zech 10:2; Rev 18:4-8
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in "WATCHTOWER APPEALS TO THE SUPREME COURT"   
    The sin David committed didn’t affect all of Israel. He was remorseful and we have the record of his heartfelt repentance and mourning before God.   The sin of spiritual adultery by Israel’s leaders, affected all of God’s people, since it was sourced in teachings and idolatry promoted by the leaders themselves.   Because of that, God allowed suffering to come upon them.  The Pharisees in Jesus’ day were adulterers.  Jesus told his listeners to turn to truth, not to tolerate their behavior, or their teachings…not to share in their sins. Those that didn’t listen, lost their lives!
    Never does God expect us to sit back and absorb all the evil coming from those who speak it. That is hypocrisy.  The “world” that Jesus preached to, was the Jewish system of things.  In his prayer to God, he said of his disciples,
    “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word.  John 17:6
    "Do not love the world or anything in the world. If anyone loves the world, love for the Father is not in them. 16 For everything in the world—the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life—comes not from the Father but from the world. 17 The world and its desires pass away, but whoever does the will of God lives forever." 1 John 2:15-17
    How can we be found acceptable before God if we even remotely entertain the misconduct of leaders ruling over us, who are not in the least repentant for their sins?  To be “no part of the world” in that day, meant rejecting Israel’s sins.  In the world of the organization, it means the same thing, where spiritual "Israel", God's people, resides. 
    Then I heard another voice from heaven say:
    “‘Come out of her, my people,’
        so that you will not share in her sins,
        so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
    5 for her sins are piled up to heaven,
        and God has remembered her crimes.
    6 Give back to her as she has given;
        pay her back double for what she has done.
        Pour her a double portion from her own cup.
    7 Give her as much torment and grief
        as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
    In her heart she boasts,
        ‘I sit enthroned as queen.
    I am not a widow;
        I will never mourn.’
    8 Therefore in one day her plagues will overtake her:
        death, mourning and famine.”  Rev 18:4-8
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    Some religious people love their clergy. Some not so much.
    Some non-religious people have same feelings.
    JW people not loving any clergy but only own clergy.
    Problem will be solved if WT publication start to teaching own members about "connotations".... wrong one and positive one. :)))
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    Witness got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    It is a pyramid scheme, or so it seems!
    Because there is no transparency of where funds go, no one but those at the top of the pyramid, know how much money has been foolishly squandered in the “making of many books”.  But, JWs put full trust in the secure hope that their donations/investments in the company are wisely used – a “gift” they give, but that never brings solid, "well fastened" returns.
    I appreciate the verses directly before what you quoted:
    Further, because the Preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge. Yes, he pondered, sought out, and set in order many proverbs. 10 The Preacher sought to find out acceptable words, and that which was written blamelessly, words of truth. 11 The words of the wise are like goads; and like nails well fastened are words from the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.  Eccl 12:9-11
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    Witness got a reaction from Shiwiii in "WATCHTOWER APPEALS TO THE SUPREME COURT"   
    The only game in town in Jesus’ day, which was equally corrupt, was destroyed.  If the apostles held to your philosophy, where would any of us be now?  2 Cor 6:14,16,17; Rev 18:4-8
    Not without God "putting it into their hearts" - into the hearts of the elder body to act on behalf of their "Beast"/organization.
    Rev 17:15-17
    Rev 17:12-14
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    Witness reacted to 4Jah2me in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    @TrueTomHarley  " It’s called updating. People have done this since the beginning of time. The printing presses they use didn’t even fit in the NYC buildings, they became so large. "
    Septuagint bible w/ Apocrypha     Ecclesiastes 12:12 (LXX) And moreover, my son, guard thyself by means of them: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.
    The Message Bible  Ecclesiastes 12:12 (MSG) But regarding anything beyond this, dear friend, go easy. There's no end to the publishing of books, and constant study wears you out so you're no good for anything else.
    So why would your GB want to be spending so much money on new buildings and new equipment, if 'THE END' IS SO CLOSE NOW ?
    Surely all that money could have been put into preaching the Good News Earthwide. After all, surely bringing in more people and getting them baptised is the priority ?  Your GB is telling the world that no one will be saved unless they are a baptised JW. But they used the brothers and sisters to do the building, when they could have been preaching, and they used the money for the buildings when it could have been used better in the earthwide preaching work, and possibly to help those bros & sis that need extra support financially to survive. But no, your GB chose to build it's 'Tower to the sky', just to show off its wealth. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in NEW DOCUMENTARY EXAMINES ALLEGED CHILD SEX ABUSE WITHIN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES   
    Article in People Magazine:
    https://people.com/crime/jehovas-witnesses-alleged-sex-abuse-oxygen-documentary/?fbclid=IwAR3DWbOD6ihak4wOe7rtv0GIkNfppgH0MlGs56RtjpSE_kdXHcqB4xS6J-o
     
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    Witness got a reaction from 4Jah2me in NEW DOCUMENTARY EXAMINES ALLEGED CHILD SEX ABUSE WITHIN JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES   
    Article in People Magazine:
    https://people.com/crime/jehovas-witnesses-alleged-sex-abuse-oxygen-documentary/?fbclid=IwAR3DWbOD6ihak4wOe7rtv0GIkNfppgH0MlGs56RtjpSE_kdXHcqB4xS6J-o
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    For you, this is a “sign and wonder” that the organization is blessed by God.
    I presented another religion with a very competitive track record of charity works, that easily squelches your statement, and you’re taking offense. 
    The GB had a home but decided they needed a better one.  With JW donations and volunteer work, it was accomplished.  No one, who labored in this effort either monetarily or physically ,was reimbursed one dime. 
    The same people who helped finance the GB’s new home, pay monthly into their house insurance that is available when disaster may cause the loss of their home. This is on top of paying their mortgage, which guarantees they keep their home.  The GB doesn't pay into house insurance and they are not responsible to pay a mortgage. Watchtower, in all pomp, rallies forth volunteers, and sweeps in to restore someone's home if lost during a disaster.  Yet, also expects the insurance check when it is finished. 
     Who's making out in both situations?   Whose ahead in both scenarios?  The Watchtower.
    This is robbery at its worst.  You can’t see it, but you can smell it, and it stinks. Srecko called it when using 2 Cor 11:14
     
    Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2 Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3 Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4 Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5 You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter.  6 You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.  James 5:1-6
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Arauna in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    No, I get the point.  But, perhaps you need to compare apples to apples - a religion in the world, compared to other religions in the world.  https://thehumanist.com/commentary/disaster-relief-can-humanism-fill-gap
    Whatever "signs and wonders" that the organization is able succeed at, does not verify it belongs to God.  
    For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.  Matt 24:24
    The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.  2 Thess 2:9-12
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    Do you know that many of these "members" are asked to turn over their insurance check to the organization?  
    The Adventist Development and Relief Agency (ADRA) is the global humanitarian organization of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Through an international network, ADRA delivers relief and development assistance to individuals in more than 130 countries—regardless of their ethnicity, political affiliation, or religious association. By partnering with communities, organizations, and governments, ADRA is able to improve the quality of life of millions through 9 impact areas. https://adra.org/
    Really, I don't know why you are tooting your own horn.  It's as if you desperately need to find something outstanding and  marvelous about the organization, to raise your hands in praise for "Jehovah's organization".  Rev 13:4  Turn around and look at its dark side.  2 Cor 6:14
    Give praise to God and Christ only, not to earthly treasures that do not deliver salvation.  Matt 6:19,20; Dan 3:16-18; Rev 13:4
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    You didn't read all that it said about the American Red Cross, did you.
    But the charity has come under severe criticism of late from media organizations and a congressional report, the findings of which suggest that the Red Cross is less than efficient in its disaster relief work and spends as much as a quarter of its contributions on overhead, administration, and fundraising. The Red Cross has responded to these criticisms with answers that sound reasonable, but more and more people are directing their donations elsewhere.
    I linked the article to give you a view of other religions and what they are doing in charity works.  Somehow that escaped your notice, or purposefully ignored it,  but it was the first thing addressed in the article.  
    Read the article before you say I am lying. 
    The Adventist Development and Relief Agency International (ADRA or ADRA International) is a humanitarian agency operated by the Seventh-day Adventist Church for the purpose of providing individual and community development and disaster relief. It was founded in 1956, and it is headquartered in Silver Spring, Maryland, United States of America.
    In 2004, ADRA reported assisting nearly 24 million people with more than US$159 million in aid. Its staff numbered over 4,000 members.[1] As of the end of 2007, it had operations in 125 countries [2] According to Forbes, in 2005, ADRA ranked among America's 200 largest charities.   Wikipedia
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    No, I get the point.  But, perhaps you need to compare apples to apples - a religion in the world, compared to other religions in the world.  https://thehumanist.com/commentary/disaster-relief-can-humanism-fill-gap
    Whatever "signs and wonders" that the organization is able succeed at, does not verify it belongs to God.  
    For false christs and false prophets will rise and show great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect.  Matt 24:24
    The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, 10 and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie, 12 that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.  2 Thess 2:9-12
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    Witness got a reaction from Arauna in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    For all of you dissecting this case, an opinion from a retired justice of the Montana Supreme Court
    "Religion does not give sexual predators a pass"
    https://helenair.com/opinion/columnists/religion-does-not-give-sexual-predators-a-pass/article_f22cf868-64b0-56c0-8028-6e690731adb3.html
     
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    Witness got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    Thank you Srecko.  It needed to be said.
    “But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back."  Luke 6:32-34
    It leaves no doubt in my mind that those "brothers" fully gave back through all aspects of their life, to the organization. Matt 6:24
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Haiti Ten Years Later—Is Nothing Fixed?   
    Thank you Srecko.  It needed to be said.
    “But if you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 And if you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 And if you lend to those from whom you hope to receive back, what credit is that to you? For even sinners lend to sinners to receive as much back."  Luke 6:32-34
    It leaves no doubt in my mind that those "brothers" fully gave back through all aspects of their life, to the organization. Matt 6:24
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    These are two thoughts, not well connected.   
    Anointed ones were initially drawn together BEFORE the organization was established.  It was under this premise, that they gathered:
    "Beware of "organization." It is wholly un-necessary. The Bible will be the only rules you need. Do not seek to bind other consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's word today, and so continue to growing in grace and knowledge day by day." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1895, p. 216.) 
    "In view of these facts and also of the nature of the harvest work, and the addition. In fact that each one so gathered is expected to enter into the harvest work as a reaper, and will do so to the extent of his ability and opportunity, it is plain that the forming of a visible organization of such gathered out ones would be out of harmony with the spirit of the divine plan; and, it done, would seem to indicate on the part of the Church a desire to conform to the now popular idea of organization or confederacy. (See Isa. 8:12.) ... While, therefore, we do not esteem a visible organization of the gathered ones to be a part of the Lord's plan in the harvest work, as though we expected as an organization to abide here for another age, we do esteem it to be his will that those that love the Lord should speak often one to another of their common hopes and joys, or trials and perplexities, communing together concerning the precious things of his Word, and so help one another, and not forget the assembling of themselves together as the manner of some is; and so much the more as they see the day approaching. -- Mal. 3: 16; Heb. 10:25." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1894, p. 384.)
    "There is no organization today clothed with such divine authority to imperiously command mankind. There is no organization doing this today; though we are well aware that many of them in theory claim that they ought to be permitted to do so; and many more would like to do so. This was the fatal mistake into which the Church began to fall in the second century; and the effort to realize this false conception culminated in the boastful, imperious counterfeiting of the coming Kingdom in Papacy, which for centuries sought to dominate the world, by claimed "divine authority". This idea more or less pervaded and poisoned the ideas of all the Protestant "clergy" as well; who copying Papacy's false ideas of the Church, claim also that the Church of Christ is now organized, though they now make less boastful claims to "divine authority" to teach and rule mankind in general, that the Papacy does." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1893, page 266.)
    From, http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/russells-opinion-on-organizations.html 
    All of this truth, has dissolved over time; and the organization today at its peak of corruption, shows evidence of its peak as a lie, against God’s anointed, spiritual “organization” under Christ.  Rev 13: 1,2,5-9; 16:13-15
    As time has gone by, this priesthood of God has been consumed by a tally of millions who have joined what is now, a necessary “evil”.  There is nothing wrong with people gathered with anointed ones. It is happening on the other side of the WT fence, never to be organized by man’s will.  What is wrong with WT, is the GB’s dismissal of God’s priests gradually, over the spanning years of the organization's development.
    Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.   Wt 02/8/1
     This necessary evil requires a priesthood of its own, where its priests answer to their “High Priest”, the GB.  False christs.  Matt 24:24 Thus, they have "ordained" a priesthood for their own.   True anointed have written on their hearts, the laws of God through the outpouring of Holy Spirit. Heb 8:10 God wouldn’t do this if He didn’t expect His servants to teach the people, as priests have always been admonished to do.  Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9 
     Except for a minority of elders who truly try to “love your neighbor as yourself”, the majority of elders are “heartless” to this guidance Jesus has taught us. Isa 3:12; Ezek 34; Rev 9:9,10; Joel 2:2-9  Those elders who make the effort to obey Christ’s law of love, in most cases leave, or just give up and answer to "lawlessness".
    So, the elder body can play the role of a clergy class at its whim in the court systems, when it is advantageous for the organization. Other times, it uses the excuse that all men are imperfect and make mistakes.  As I have said, if the organization belonged to God, only His authentic priests would lead as shepherds.  What would guide them in all cases, would be the "written letter" fulfilled in Christ, and inscribed on their hearts.  2 Cor 3:3
    All the excuses made in defense of the organization’s need to fight for its rights in court, mean nothing to God or Christ. It is no different than what other organizations in the world of Satan face.  If Christ said, "my kingdom is not part of this world", (John 18:36)  a JW should ask, why do men make it so?   God's priesthood/Temple has been rejected and trampled, for the sustaining benefit of an idol  (1 Cor 3:16,17)  Matt 24:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; Ezek 44:6-9
    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 And then I will say to them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness!’  Matt 7:21-23
    What has developed over time since its inception, is a devouring monster.  Rev 13:1,2,10,11,12,15
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    I believe how money can't REPAIR the Trauma.
    Money can do other things, other sorts of help for victim.  
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    Witness got a reaction from 4Jah2me in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    These are two thoughts, not well connected.   
    Anointed ones were initially drawn together BEFORE the organization was established.  It was under this premise, that they gathered:
    "Beware of "organization." It is wholly un-necessary. The Bible will be the only rules you need. Do not seek to bind other consciences, and do not permit others to bind yours. Believe and obey so far as you can understand God's word today, and so continue to growing in grace and knowledge day by day." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1895, p. 216.) 
    "In view of these facts and also of the nature of the harvest work, and the addition. In fact that each one so gathered is expected to enter into the harvest work as a reaper, and will do so to the extent of his ability and opportunity, it is plain that the forming of a visible organization of such gathered out ones would be out of harmony with the spirit of the divine plan; and, it done, would seem to indicate on the part of the Church a desire to conform to the now popular idea of organization or confederacy. (See Isa. 8:12.) ... While, therefore, we do not esteem a visible organization of the gathered ones to be a part of the Lord's plan in the harvest work, as though we expected as an organization to abide here for another age, we do esteem it to be his will that those that love the Lord should speak often one to another of their common hopes and joys, or trials and perplexities, communing together concerning the precious things of his Word, and so help one another, and not forget the assembling of themselves together as the manner of some is; and so much the more as they see the day approaching. -- Mal. 3: 16; Heb. 10:25." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1894, p. 384.)
    "There is no organization today clothed with such divine authority to imperiously command mankind. There is no organization doing this today; though we are well aware that many of them in theory claim that they ought to be permitted to do so; and many more would like to do so. This was the fatal mistake into which the Church began to fall in the second century; and the effort to realize this false conception culminated in the boastful, imperious counterfeiting of the coming Kingdom in Papacy, which for centuries sought to dominate the world, by claimed "divine authority". This idea more or less pervaded and poisoned the ideas of all the Protestant "clergy" as well; who copying Papacy's false ideas of the Church, claim also that the Church of Christ is now organized, though they now make less boastful claims to "divine authority" to teach and rule mankind in general, that the Papacy does." (Zion's Watch Tower, 1893, page 266.)
    From, http://corior.blogspot.com/2006/02/russells-opinion-on-organizations.html 
    All of this truth, has dissolved over time; and the organization today at its peak of corruption, shows evidence of its peak as a lie, against God’s anointed, spiritual “organization” under Christ.  Rev 13: 1,2,5-9; 16:13-15
    As time has gone by, this priesthood of God has been consumed by a tally of millions who have joined what is now, a necessary “evil”.  There is nothing wrong with people gathered with anointed ones. It is happening on the other side of the WT fence, never to be organized by man’s will.  What is wrong with WT, is the GB’s dismissal of God’s priests gradually, over the spanning years of the organization's development.
    Representing the royal priesthood are appointed elders, who serve in positions of responsibility in congregations of Jehovah’s people around the earth. These men deserve our respect and wholehearted support, whether they are of the anointed or not. Why? Because, through his holy spirit, Jehovah has appointed the older men to their positions.   Wt 02/8/1
     This necessary evil requires a priesthood of its own, where its priests answer to their “High Priest”, the GB.  False christs.  Matt 24:24 Thus, they have "ordained" a priesthood for their own.   True anointed have written on their hearts, the laws of God through the outpouring of Holy Spirit. Heb 8:10 God wouldn’t do this if He didn’t expect His servants to teach the people, as priests have always been admonished to do.  Mal 2:7; 1 Pet 2:5,9 
     Except for a minority of elders who truly try to “love your neighbor as yourself”, the majority of elders are “heartless” to this guidance Jesus has taught us. Isa 3:12; Ezek 34; Rev 9:9,10; Joel 2:2-9  Those elders who make the effort to obey Christ’s law of love, in most cases leave, or just give up and answer to "lawlessness".
    So, the elder body can play the role of a clergy class at its whim in the court systems, when it is advantageous for the organization. Other times, it uses the excuse that all men are imperfect and make mistakes.  As I have said, if the organization belonged to God, only His authentic priests would lead as shepherds.  What would guide them in all cases, would be the "written letter" fulfilled in Christ, and inscribed on their hearts.  2 Cor 3:3
    All the excuses made in defense of the organization’s need to fight for its rights in court, mean nothing to God or Christ. It is no different than what other organizations in the world of Satan face.  If Christ said, "my kingdom is not part of this world", (John 18:36)  a JW should ask, why do men make it so?   God's priesthood/Temple has been rejected and trampled, for the sustaining benefit of an idol  (1 Cor 3:16,17)  Matt 24:14; 2 Thess 2:3,4; Rev 11:1-3; Ezek 44:6-9
    “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many miracles in your name?’ 23 And then I will say to them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Depart from me, you who practice lawlessness!’  Matt 7:21-23
    What has developed over time since its inception, is a devouring monster.  Rev 13:1,2,10,11,12,15
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    Just the fact that child abuse exists in an organization that declares it is inspired by Holy Spirit – “spirit-directed” -  is evil. (Rev 13:15)  For any JW leaders and members as well, who believe this outcome as beneficial - "good" -  toward upholding the governmental procedures of “God’s organization”,  is also evil. 
    Woe to those who call evil good
    and good evil,
    who substitute darkness for light
    and light for darkness,
    who substitute bitter for sweet
    and sweet for bitter.
    21 Woe to those who are wise in their own opinion
    and clever in their own sight.
    22 Woe to those who are heroes at drinking wine,
    who are fearless at mixing beer,
    23 who acquit the guilty for a bribe
    and deprive the innocent of justice.
    24 Therefore, as a tongue of fire consumes straw
    and as dry grass shrivels in the flame,
    so their roots will become like something rotten
    and their blossoms will blow away like dust,
    for they have rejected
    the instruction of the Lord of Hosts,
    and they have despised
    the word of the Holy One of Israel.  Isa 5:20-24
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in 1914   
    Right, so maybe they mean that with God's help, Christ's battle tactic from heaven, is to situate garrisons all over the earth? (1 Cor 15:25)  
    What an impudent statement the man made in the video!
    It reminds me of this guy:
    The devil took him to a high place and showed him all the kingdoms of the world in an instant. 6 The devil said to him, “I will give you all the power and glory of these kingdoms. All of it has been given to me, and I give it to anyone I please. 7 So if you will worship me, all this will be yours.”  Luke 4:5-7
     
    "The God who made the world and everything in it—He is Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in shrines made by hands. 25 Neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives everyone life and breath and all things. 26 From one man He has made every nationality to live over the whole earth and has determined their appointed times and the boundaries of where they live. 27 He did this so they might seek God, and perhaps they might reach out and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us. 28 For in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also His offspring.’ 29 Being God’s offspring then, we shouldn’t think that the divine nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image fashioned by human art and imagination.  Acts 17:24-29
    http://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-kingdom-when.html 
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    Witness reacted to 4Jah2me in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    But if the GB / Bethel / Circuit Overseers / Elders et al, are allowed to tell half the Org and still pretend it is confidential then that is the biggest immoral / dishonest / unloving / merciless thing ever.  It is a loophole of the worst kind.  
    The case may be ten years old, but that does not make it any less important in God's / Christ's opinion surely. Surely THEY would want justice and mercy done ? 
    As JTR (I think it was ) said, the W/t / JW Org is run by the accountants and lawyers .
    It is not God's Organisation because it proves to be man's. 
    @Srecko Sostar  The best option, for Corporation, would be some sort of problems and persecution toward members, without reaching too much for money of  organization, without doing financial harm to the corporation. 
    Sadly there is much persecution in Russia. There may be persecution elsewhere but I'm not aware of it. In Russia though it has been financial as well as physical. 
    But it annoys me when JWs pretend that the CSA problems are part of persecution, because in truth they are caused by the dishonesty in the Org itself. 
    In my opinion, whatever is printed in the W/t or in the Shepherding the Flock book, nothing has changed. It will still be hidden, and victims will still be shunned and called liars. JWs will still believe the Elders above the victims. Contacting Bethel / Head Office etc, where those brothers do not really know the people involved / the Elders involved / or the true situation, but can only go by their book of rules, will not bring about justice and mercy that God and Christ require.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Did Jehovah’s Witnesses Lie to the Montana Court About Confidentiality?   
    Haven't you heard from the video Srecko posted under "1914"?  God's Kingdom is ruling!  Apparently he has chosen these lawyers and accountants to fight the fine fight!  The funny thing is, this "Jehovah" is not powerful enough to keep his members out of prison in countries that fight against him.  He's not powerful enough to win all the court cases that arise against his Kingdom rule.   He's not powerful enough to "hold down the fort", but he is an expert at building them.    

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