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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    There doesn’t appear to have been a need for the anointed and true believers in Christ down through the ages, to develop an organization…until Russel came along.  Jesus said God is looking for those who worship “in spirit and truth”.  Was Russel worshiping in “spirit and truth”?  How many untruths did that man, and all leaders who followed him, pronounce as truths?  Preaching untruths – lies – is evidence of the lack of Holy Spirit from the God of Truth.  (Num 23:19)
    In order to 'gather together as the day draws near', an organization isn’t necessary.  I understand that there have been new regulations,  new warnings where no JW  can “gather” on zoom independently for Bible study, or even to pray together - nothing aside of outlined protocol approved by the GB or their helpers is acceptable.   Is that rule found in the scriptures?  Or, is this a necessary rule that ensures the life of and unity within, an organization? The GB is afraid of what these independent ones may learn from one another, who may realize they have been duped.  The encouraging attitude of the Bereans ends with the JW baptism. (Acts 17:11)
    As an elder, are you enforcing these new decrees?
    Announcements and Reminders March 2021
    FOR ELDERS
    7. Private Meetings Arranged via Video conference: “The faithful and discreet slave” has provided practical, Scriptural guidance that highlights principles for individuals to consider when deciding whether to organize or attend a social gathering. (Matt. 24:45-47) Rather than making rules, the emphasis should be on applying Bible principles. When Bible principles are applied, social gatherings can be refreshing and bring honor to Jehovah. —1 Cor. 10:23, 24, 31, 32. 8. While there is no objection to wholesome social gatherings, we have received reports that some have begun to arrange additional meetings and events for spiritual instruction, even beginning and ending such meetings with prayer. While the individuals organizing and participating in such meetings likely are well-intentioned, there is no provision for such arrangements. 9. Jehovah’s people receive ample spiritual instruction and encouragement at congregation meetings, assemblies, and conventions as well as through JW Broadcasting and our publications. Under the guidance of his holy spirit and on the basis of his Word of truth, Jehovah provides what is needed through the faithful and discreet slave. Care should be taken not to organize or promote meetings for spiritual feeding beyond what has been provided by the organization. Such meetings could detract from what Jesus Christ is accomplishing through his congregation on earth today. Adhering to this direction will help all of God’s people to “be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought” and to remain “stabilized in the faith.”—1 Cor. 1:10; Col. 2:6, 7.
    Detract from what Jesus is accomplishing, or from what men are attempting to accomplish?  No, there is a need to remain in the same mind as the GB, who by the way, are not inspired.  There was no valid scripture given to support their case.  What rules are we to follow, those of men or those of Jesus Christ? If JWs proudly say they follow the teachings of Christ but choose to adhere to the laws of men, are they not hypocrites?
    I do not sit with the deceitful,
        nor do I associate with hypocrites.
    5 I abhor the assembly of evildoers
        and refuse to sit with the wicked.  Ps 26:4,5
    It is wickedness to control the entire spirituality of another, when what is taught transgresses the laws of Christ.
    So, what do JWs want,  a social life or truth?  Obviously, the organization only wants their gatherings to be on a social level, and to leave the scriptures out of it. 
    About the angels are...
    The Greek meaning for angel is “messenger”.   
    https://www.blueletterbible.org/lang/lexicon/lexicon.cfm?t=kjv&strongs=g32
    This Greek word is also used in relationship to John the Baptist. (Matt 11:10) Yes, Jesus referred to him as an “angel”/messenger. 
    Jesus’ “angels” are his anointed servants.  (Mal 3:1-5; John 13:20; Matt 13:37-43; Rev 1:1; 11:1-3; Zech 4:1-5,14; Rev 18:4-8; 14:6-12,15-19)
    By the exposure of truth in the presence of lies, the angel/servants/messengers sent by Christ are an integral part of the harvest –separating out the “sons of the kingdom” through the word of Truth instilled in them, by the spirit of God.  (Matt 13:38)
    Satan also has his angel messengers who deceive the elect (anointed).  They speak lies and enforce their oppressive rules, to ensure their physical life, and that of their earthly organization.  (2 Cor 11: 13-15; Rev 13:11,12; 16:13-16; 20:7-10)  (Matt 24:24; Mark 13:19-23)
    That's the deal? Jesus condemned the Pharisees for additional rules and burdens put upon the people.  (Matt 23:4; Mark 7:7)
    God has never approved of His people listening to lies, and becoming liars themselves. (Jer 23:16)
    No, that's not the deal.   We don’t put up with people who lock us away from investigating our beliefs, sharing what we feel with others, or from preventing us from knowing Truth...or seeking out our anointed brethren who are to follow one Master, Jesus Christ.
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/06/30/lds-church-says-pandemic/
    I was raised as a Catholic and lived next door to a devout Mormon family, who were my extended family. I had basically two mothers, and learned from both.   I was guarded by their mutual love.  When I became a JW and my father died, I refused to attend his funeral in the Catholic Church.  My feelings were respected and my family's love for me never faded. 
    While JWs reserve their love for each other, the Mormon Church reaches out into the community in massive ways.   Each religion, the Catholics, Mormons, Watchtower has its horrendous record of hidden child abuse; which proves that NO organization can boast that it is founded on love, no matter what it has accomplished. 
    JWs instantly shut their brand of love off, when someone rejects the organization. For this, families are torn apart.   Is this love?  Victims of abuse are shunned for their outcry of injustice, committed by the elder body.  Is this love?  The organization’s lawyers fight to win court battles involving child abuse.  Is this love?  They don't stop once but keep at it, hoping to hold on to their riches.  This is so alien to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    The anointed Body of Christ is admonished not to bond together under their Head Jesus Christ and show love for one another. (1 Cor 12:15-27)
    WHO has the authority to regulate love?  The governing body?
    The love shown by JWs as an organization, is regulated by rules coming from these men, and enforced by the elders. 
    This is not true love.
    Yes he does.
    The "mighty mountainlike organization" will fall.  The Temple/Zion/mountain of "living stones" that God established through His Son, will rise.  The anointed are bonding outside of this delusional mountain.(1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)
    "What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’”
    8 Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.
    10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, since the seven eyes of the Lord that range throughout the earth will rejoice when they see the chosen capstone in the hand of Zerubbabel?”  Zech 4:7-1-10
    The Rise of Mount Zion
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in They're better as a group, than they are individually - (observations from the outside)   
    https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2020/06/30/lds-church-says-pandemic/
    I was raised as a Catholic and lived next door to a devout Mormon family, who were my extended family. I had basically two mothers, and learned from both.   I was guarded by their mutual love.  When I became a JW and my father died, I refused to attend his funeral in the Catholic Church.  My feelings were respected and my family's love for me never faded. 
    While JWs reserve their love for each other, the Mormon Church reaches out into the community in massive ways.   Each religion, the Catholics, Mormons, Watchtower has its horrendous record of hidden child abuse; which proves that NO organization can boast that it is founded on love, no matter what it has accomplished. 
    JWs instantly shut their brand of love off, when someone rejects the organization. For this, families are torn apart.   Is this love?  Victims of abuse are shunned for their outcry of injustice, committed by the elder body.  Is this love?  The organization’s lawyers fight to win court battles involving child abuse.  Is this love?  They don't stop once but keep at it, hoping to hold on to their riches.  This is so alien to the teachings of Jesus Christ.
    The anointed Body of Christ is admonished not to bond together under their Head Jesus Christ and show love for one another. (1 Cor 12:15-27)
    WHO has the authority to regulate love?  The governing body?
    The love shown by JWs as an organization, is regulated by rules coming from these men, and enforced by the elders. 
    This is not true love.
    Yes he does.
    The "mighty mountainlike organization" will fall.  The Temple/Zion/mountain of "living stones" that God established through His Son, will rise.  The anointed are bonding outside of this delusional mountain.(1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)
    "What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’”
    8 Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.
    10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, since the seven eyes of the Lord that range throughout the earth will rejoice when they see the chosen capstone in the hand of Zerubbabel?”  Zech 4:7-1-10
    The Rise of Mount Zion
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    I see them as sitting on three - one in court, one in the organization as "elders", and one as counterfeit priests "sitting" in the Temple of God.  (Mark 13:14)
     2 Thess 2:3,4 - Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God."  
    (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    I see them as sitting on three - one in court, one in the organization as "elders", and one as counterfeit priests "sitting" in the Temple of God.  (Mark 13:14)
     2 Thess 2:3,4 - Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God."  
    (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
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    Witness reacted to ApostaBabe Linda James in Jehovah's Witnesses to join redress scheme   
    "Jehovah's Witnesses did not voluntarily join because we object to the assertion that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses assumes responsibility for children," the group said.
    "Our objection is based on the fact that the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses does not and has not sponsored any activities that have resulted in children being under its care, custody, supervision, control or authority."
    My problem with this is that it is so misleading. They had control and authority over my parent's so they got my parent's to do the dirty works with me by direction way of the leadership.
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200021176
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    @César Chávez, you began your now deleted message reply to me, with...
    "You have poisoned his mind. The church of Christ is NOT only the anointed. It includes the priest. Who are the priest, everyone else that is NOT anointed."
    This would mean all JWs are priests.  But, have you had a change of thought on this?  Just in case you haven't...
    Who was anointed with oil?
      w74 4/15 p. 251-252 - God established a priesthood with ancient Israel, primarily in order to foreshadow his real heavenly priesthood. He selected Aaron the brother of Moses, of the tribe of Levi, as high priest. Moses anointed Aaron with oil.
    These spirit-anointed ones look forward to an actual entrance into heaven in due time. As one of their fellow priests expressed it: “This hope we have as an anchor for the soul, both sure and firm, and it enters in within the curtain, where a forerunner has entered in our behalf, Jesus, who has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”—Heb. 6:19, 20.
    The priesthood has over them AS THEIR HEAD, Jesus Christ – their High Priest and Head of the Body.  ( Heb 3:1; Eph 4:4,12) 
    The priests/Body of Christ are the “firstfruits” to benefit from the New Covenant. (James 1:18) They MUST ALL TEACH TRUTH to the rest of God’s children/believers in Jesus and the Father – now, and always, in the Kingdom.  (Mal 2:7)  In union with Jesus Christ, ("one body"), they are the "trees" that provide "healing of the nations". (Matt 7:18-20; Rev 22:1-5)
    What is rather amazing, is JWs fabricate their own doctrine that diverts from doctrine established (at one time) in the organization.  It seems there is “new light” emanating from the mouths of all JWs.  Yet, they will defend the organization, over defending truth in Jesus Christ.
    As you come to him, a living stone—rejected by people but chosen and honored by God— 5 you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:
    See, I lay a stone in Zion,
    a chosen and honored cornerstone,
    and the one who believes in him
    will never be put to shame.
    7 So honor will come to you who believe; but for the unbelieving,
    The stone that the builders rejected—
    this one has become the cornerstone,
    8 and
    A stone to stumble over,
    and a rock to trip over.
    They stumble because they disobey the word; they were destined for this.
    9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.  1 Pet 2:4-9
    The house of God is His Temple.  Only the priests are allowed to serve in the Temple.  (1 Cor 3:16) (Num 3:10; Ezek 44:5-9
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    I also don't recall any Bible verse. It can be that Jesus, despite his "rebellious attitude" about Jew's customs and interpretations of "Moses's Law" (washing hands, working on Sabbath and similar) in many cases, he also didn't want to provoke spiritual leaders too much, also. If that was the case, perhaps he didn't publicly spoke God's name for same reason as all other Jews of his time. Just idea.    
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    What is silly, is putting importance on speaking or writing the word, "Jehovah" and then proclaiming that by not doing so - not speaking it, not writing it -  that person basically does not "believe", or does not have God's Holy Spirit.  
    Can you tell me where Jesus spoke God's name? 
    He carried God's name within him. 
    "Yah Will Save, Yah Saves" - The name Jesus is the Greek transliteration of either the name יהושע (Joshua) or its shortened form (ישוע) Jeshua, and consists of two elements. The first part is the appellative יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which in turn are abbreviated forms of the Tetragrammaton; the name of the Lord: YHWH, or Yahweh. - https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Jesus.html
    "And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:
    10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest."  Mark 11:9-10
    You know, JWs  (Rutherford to be precise) could have been more accurate in speaking the name of God if they did choose "Yahweh" instead of  the disastrous name,  "Jehovah".  
    What an appropriate name to attach to an organization that has caused the ruin and disaster of so many lives.
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    What is silly, is putting importance on speaking or writing the word, "Jehovah" and then proclaiming that by not doing so - not speaking it, not writing it -  that person basically does not "believe", or does not have God's Holy Spirit.  
    Can you tell me where Jesus spoke God's name? 
    He carried God's name within him. 
    "Yah Will Save, Yah Saves" - The name Jesus is the Greek transliteration of either the name יהושע (Joshua) or its shortened form (ישוע) Jeshua, and consists of two elements. The first part is the appellative יה (Yah) = יהו (Yahu) = יו (Yu), which in turn are abbreviated forms of the Tetragrammaton; the name of the Lord: YHWH, or Yahweh. - https://www.abarim-publications.com/Meaning/Jesus.html
    "And they that went before, and they that followed, cried, saying, Hosanna; Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord:
    10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord: Hosanna in the highest."  Mark 11:9-10
    You know, JWs  (Rutherford to be precise) could have been more accurate in speaking the name of God if they did choose "Yahweh" instead of  the disastrous name,  "Jehovah".  
    What an appropriate name to attach to an organization that has caused the ruin and disaster of so many lives.
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    Are you saying that Yahweh is not English, or Yehowah.  Who's to say what is English ?  After all it is YHWH. 
    Surely by changing the letters you are changing the true meaning ?  Can you honestly say that the meaning is not changed. And how would you honestly know without the gift of Holy Spirit.  Just because some scholar says this or that. Wheras if that scholar said something else you would say they are not guided by God. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    You are so funny. You NEED to be told what name to use by MEN. A name that was invented by MEN.  A name that was invented without the guidance of Holy Spirit. But you put your faith in MEN.  I hope that God through Christ will forgive you. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    It that like the Leaders of the Watchtower repeating  predictable response patterns  about the 'last part of the last day' and the 'oh so close to the end'  and the 'you must be a JW to be saved'. Is that because they have chosen themselves as their own root.  
    Yes, seems to make sense now. 
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200021176
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    @César Chávez, you began your now deleted message reply to me, with...
    "You have poisoned his mind. The church of Christ is NOT only the anointed. It includes the priest. Who are the priest, everyone else that is NOT anointed."
    This would mean all JWs are priests.  But, have you had a change of thought on this?  Just in case you haven't...
    Who was anointed with oil?
      w74 4/15 p. 251-252 - God established a priesthood with ancient Israel, primarily in order to foreshadow his real heavenly priesthood. He selected Aaron the brother of Moses, of the tribe of Levi, as high priest. Moses anointed Aaron with oil.
    These spirit-anointed ones look forward to an actual entrance into heaven in due time. As one of their fellow priests expressed it: “This hope we have as an anchor for the soul, both sure and firm, and it enters in within the curtain, where a forerunner has entered in our behalf, Jesus, who has become a high priest according to the manner of Melchizedek forever.”—Heb. 6:19, 20.
    The priesthood has over them AS THEIR HEAD, Jesus Christ – their High Priest and Head of the Body.  ( Heb 3:1; Eph 4:4,12) 
    The priests/Body of Christ are the “firstfruits” to benefit from the New Covenant. (James 1:18) They MUST ALL TEACH TRUTH to the rest of God’s children/believers in Jesus and the Father – now, and always, in the Kingdom.  (Mal 2:7)  In union with Jesus Christ, ("one body"), they are the "trees" that provide "healing of the nations". (Matt 7:18-20; Rev 22:1-5)
    What is rather amazing, is JWs fabricate their own doctrine that diverts from doctrine established (at one time) in the organization.  It seems there is “new light” emanating from the mouths of all JWs.  Yet, they will defend the organization, over defending truth in Jesus Christ.
    As you come to him, a living stone—rejected by people but chosen and honored by God— 5 you yourselves, as living stones, a spiritual house, are being built to be a holy priesthood to offer spiritual sacrifices acceptable to God through Jesus Christ. 6 For it stands in Scripture:
    See, I lay a stone in Zion,
    a chosen and honored cornerstone,
    and the one who believes in him
    will never be put to shame.
    7 So honor will come to you who believe; but for the unbelieving,
    The stone that the builders rejected—
    this one has become the cornerstone,
    8 and
    A stone to stumble over,
    and a rock to trip over.
    They stumble because they disobey the word; they were destined for this.
    9 But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood a holy nation, a people for his possession, so that you may proclaim the praises of the one who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light. 10 Once you were not a people, but now you are God’s people; you had not received mercy, but now you have received mercy.  1 Pet 2:4-9
    The house of God is His Temple.  Only the priests are allowed to serve in the Temple.  (1 Cor 3:16) (Num 3:10; Ezek 44:5-9
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Brother Jackson is not entitled to ask nothing from ARC or from Australia government. Brother Jackson, if want change in Australia inner politic, have to vote for such change or to participate and involve himself, in democratic way, how to change legislative and laws and other social climate in society for better solutions about problem. He is not in position to demand or to suggest. He can only express his opinion. .....but as i am aware of mentality in WTJWorg GB and other Administrative staff, the practice in WTJWorg is that they expect from a government to make a decision or suggestion, and then GB says: we will accept it / we will not accept it. In such scenario GB is not interested for, what you called, "full control" from secular authorities.
    Is my statement "false or true" depends of fact in which corner you sitting and who you want to defend. But my "statement" is observation and publication of fact: WTJWorg deleted their first decision and make new statement how they will join The Redress ... now, because of (money, charity status and imagine, because of Romans 13)
    Do we have to believe how GB+Helpers+Lawyers forget about existence of Romans 13 in their first decision?  :))
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I don't know what point you are trying to make, but "fellow citizens with the saints" is the merging of physical Gentiles with physical Jews to become one anointed flock under Jesus Christ. These, are spiritual "Israel".  
     So, then, remember that at one time you were Gentiles in the flesh—called “the uncircumcised” by those called “the circumcised,” which is done in the flesh by human hands. 12 At that time you were without Christ, excluded from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who made both groups one and tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In his flesh, 15 he made of no effect the law consisting of commands and expressed in regulations, so that he might create in himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace.  Eph 2:11-15
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I don't know what point you are trying to make, but "fellow citizens with the saints" is the merging of physical Gentiles with physical Jews to become one anointed flock under Jesus Christ. These, are spiritual "Israel".  
     So, then, remember that at one time you were Gentiles in the flesh—called “the uncircumcised” by those called “the circumcised,” which is done in the flesh by human hands. 12 At that time you were without Christ, excluded from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who made both groups one and tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In his flesh, 15 he made of no effect the law consisting of commands and expressed in regulations, so that he might create in himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace.  Eph 2:11-15
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    I don't know what point you are trying to make, but "fellow citizens with the saints" is the merging of physical Gentiles with physical Jews to become one anointed flock under Jesus Christ. These, are spiritual "Israel".  
     So, then, remember that at one time you were Gentiles in the flesh—called “the uncircumcised” by those called “the circumcised,” which is done in the flesh by human hands. 12 At that time you were without Christ, excluded from the citizenship of Israel, and foreigners to the covenants of promise, without hope and without God in the world. 13 But now in Christ Jesus, you who were far away have been brought near by the blood of Christ. 14 For he is our peace, who made both groups one and tore down the dividing wall of hostility. In his flesh, 15 he made of no effect the law consisting of commands and expressed in regulations, so that he might create in himself one new man from the two, resulting in peace.  Eph 2:11-15
     
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    Witness reacted to JW Insider in The Generation of 1914 truly doesn't pass away until 2034.   
    (Luke 21:8) . . .He said: “Look out that you are not misled, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time is near.’ Do not go after them.
    (Mark 13:32, 33) 32 “Concerning that day or the hour nobody knows, neither the angels in heaven nor the Son, but the Father. 33 Keep looking, keep awake, for you do not know when the appointed time is.
    (Luke 12:46) the master of that slave will come on a day that he is not expecting him and at an hour that he does not know. . .
    (Acts 1:7) . . .He said to them: “It does not belong to you to know the times or seasons that the Father has placed in his own jurisdiction.
    (Matthew 24:36)  “Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, neither the angels of the heavens nor the Son, but only the Father.
    (2 Thessalonians 2:1-3) . . .However, brothers, concerning the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered together to him, we ask you 2 not to be quickly shaken from your reason nor to be alarmed either by an inspired statement or by a spoken message or by a letter appearing to be from us, to the effect that the day of Jehovah is here. 3 Let no one lead you astray . . .
    (1 Thessalonians 5:1, 2) . . .Now as for the times and the seasons, brothers, you need nothing to be written to you. 2 For you yourselves know very well that Jehovah’s day is coming exactly as a thief in the night.
     
     
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    Witness reacted to lentaylor71 in The Generation of 1914 truly doesn't pass away until 2034.   
    I don't believe Jesus was referring to 2034 when he said this generation.
    The goalposts have moved many times on this subject and the GB have not been infused by the Holy Spirit regarding the 1914 and has become a problematic .
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Edinburgh Residents targeted with handwritten letters from child members of Jehovah's Witnesses brand the move 'sick   
    This is very serious. 
    Just speculation, but what if each of 4 letters represents one word? Similar to expresion: And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    Again, the verses: 
    (Matthew 18:15-17) 15 “Moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go and reveal his fault between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. 16 But if he does not listen, take along with you one or two more, so that on the testimony of two or three witnesses every matter may be established. 17 If he does not listen to them, speak to the congregation. If he does not listen even to the congregation, let him be to you just as a man of the nations and as a tax collector
    WTJWorg teaches that there are two kinds of sin: Big and small (Minor and gross). Elders do not want to deal with small sins, but say that the members need to solve them among themselves. Every great sin (serious wrongdoing) should be immediately reported to the elders (and therefore it is an assembly, elders=congregation).
    Which is why you need to solve a small problem with your brother on your own, if you might still report it to the elders and the congregation.
    Secondly, what is the use of Jesus' advice if you must not try to solve a big (gross) sin on your own with your brother, but must immediately report it to the elders?
    Read this please, and you will see how Shepherd book interpret one situation in connection to Mat 18 and not giving support to your WOW: 
    The congregation would not consider forming a judicial committee unless the offended Christian had taken steps one and two of Matthew 18:15, 16 and had initiated step three as described in Matthew 18:17.—lvs pp. 253-254. 25. If asked, elders could participate in step two, but they do not represent the body of elders. If the matter proceeds to step three, any elders who were witnesses in step two could serve only as witnesses in step three. They would not be used to serve on the judicial committee. - Shepherd 2019
    Even your publication speaking contrary to general opinion (general interpretation) about meaning of verses in Matt 18. 
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in IICSA: survivors speak of influence of religion   
    1 Corinthians 12 : 12 & 13 
     For just as the body is one but has many members, and all the members of that body, although many, are one body, so too is the Christ. 13  For by one spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, whether slaves or free, and we were all made to drink one spirit.
    THIS IS THE ANOINTED
    1 Corinthians 12 : 18
     But now God has arranged each of the body members just as he pleased.
    THIS IS STILL THE ANOINTED 
    The whole of that scripture is about the Anointed.  I'm sorry that JWs don't have the spiritual wisdom to understand that. 
     
     
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