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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You know what, we should ALL start with ourselves. It is a good point.   Who or what do we worship?  To  whom have we dedicated our lives?  To what have we dedicates our lives to?  Who's laws do we follow?  
    WHO DO WE OBEY, God as ruler, or men?
    24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And He is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 
    Would this scripture be respected in a judicial committee?  No, because the organization needs human hands to build its "temple".  Men's decrees, trump God's Word in the Wt. 
    26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from any one of us. 
    Does anyone need to join an organization to find God?  Not according to this scripture. 
    28 ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’
    Do new JW converts find God?  Or, do they find an organization that speaks erroneously of God?  And yes, it does speak wrongly of the Father, because it doesn’t respect verse 24 and 25 above.  JWs do not  respect the Temple already being established on Christ, the apostles and the anointed “living stones”. They literally are conditioned to shun the anointed “stones” within your organization.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    29 “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 
    Oh, how the organization boasts of its skills and building techniques.  “Jehovah’s organization” – a powerful god to be worshipped.  Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4
    30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”  Acts 17:24-31
     
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    One more thought - God's "enemies" are those whom He had entered into covenant with. (2 Chron 15:12)   They rebelled against Him, sought their own way, and their own gods. (Rom 1:24,25)  After He gives warning and plenty of it, He completely abandons them to the Destroyer - Satan the Devil - if they continue to defy His decrees.  (1 Cor 10:6-12; Isa 33:1)
    With Nineveh, He made this comment to Jonah:
    And the Lord said, “You cared about the plant, which you did not labor over and did not grow. It appeared in a night and perished in a night.  So may I not care about the great city of Nineveh, which has more than a hundred twenty thousand people who cannot distinguish between their right and their left, as well as many animals?”  Jonah 4:10
    The people in the world are left to God's righteous judgment, who reads hearts. (1 Cor 5:12,13)   Are they God's enemies? Can they distinguish between their right and their left? These are all questions that we can't answer, but the Wt. seems to know that all will be destroyed who don't reside in their organization.  Yet, the people of the world have not entered a covenant with Him, but "Israel" in the anointed, have. (Heb 8:8)   When these ones turn away from His laws fulfilled in Christ, it is they who become God's enemies.    
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You know what, we should ALL start with ourselves. It is a good point.   Who or what do we worship?  To  whom have we dedicated our lives?  To what have we dedicates our lives to?  Who's laws do we follow?  
    WHO DO WE OBEY, God as ruler, or men?
    24 “The God who made the world and everything in it is the Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples built by human hands. 25 And He is not served by human hands, as if he needed anything. Rather, he himself gives everyone life and breath and everything else. 
    Would this scripture be respected in a judicial committee?  No, because the organization needs human hands to build its "temple".  Men's decrees, trump God's Word in the Wt. 
    26 From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands. 27 God did this so that they would seek Him and perhaps reach out for Him and find Him, though He is not far from any one of us. 
    Does anyone need to join an organization to find God?  Not according to this scripture. 
    28 ‘For in Him we live and move and have our being.’ As some of your own poets have said, ‘We are his offspring.’
    Do new JW converts find God?  Or, do they find an organization that speaks erroneously of God?  And yes, it does speak wrongly of the Father, because it doesn’t respect verse 24 and 25 above.  JWs do not  respect the Temple already being established on Christ, the apostles and the anointed “living stones”. They literally are conditioned to shun the anointed “stones” within your organization.  (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22)
    29 “Therefore since we are God’s offspring, we should not think that the divine being is like gold or silver or stone—an image made by human design and skill. 
    Oh, how the organization boasts of its skills and building techniques.  “Jehovah’s organization” – a powerful god to be worshipped.  Rom 1:25; Rev 13:4
    30 In the past God overlooked such ignorance, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent. 31 For he has set a day when he will judge the world with justice by the man he has appointed. He has given proof of this to everyone by raising him from the dead.”  Acts 17:24-31
     
     
     
     
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    Witness reacted to Matthew9969 in Jehovah’s Witnesses releases world’s 1st complete sign-language Bible   
    American Sign Language Bible Translation Completed After 39 Years | God TV
    Why is the Watchtower lying?
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses releases world’s 1st complete sign-language Bible   
    Yes the GB/Watchtower/JW org are quite good at physical things, but not so good at spiritual things. 
    A bit like producing a wonderful map, but the map takes you in the wrong direction. 
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Exactly.  
    It is true, God does have enemies – primarily, Satan and his evil influence on hearts, that become filled with evil intentions, sourced in Satan's spirit.  What I noticed in this video is Morris’ delight in the destruction of his enemies.  (Rom 12:19)
    God, on the other hand does not delight in seeing wicked people destroyed.
    “Now as for you, son of man, say to the house of Israel, ‘You have said this: “Our transgressions and our sins are heavy on us, and we are wasting away because of them! How then can we survive?”’ 11 Tell them, ‘As I live—this is the declaration of the Lord God—I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked person should turn from his way and live. Repent, repent of your evil ways! Why will you die, house of Israel?’  Ezek 33:10,11
    God forgave Nineveh, which upset Jonah. (Jonah 3:10; 4:1,10,11)   Morris is going further in his own personal condemnation against his enemies, when he has much to answer for in contributing to the “trampling” of God’s Temple.  (Mal 2:8,9; Matt 24:15,24; 1 Pet 2:8; 2 Thess 2:1-4; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 11:1,2; 13:11-17)  
    “You have heard that it was said, Love your neighbor and hate your enemy. 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 so that you may be children of your Father in heaven. For He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward will you have? Don’t even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet only your brothers and sisters, what are you doing out of the ordinary? Don’t even the Gentiles do the same? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.”  Matt 5:43-48
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    Witness reacted to Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Now, I watched that video and he was talking about God's enemies. So lets dissect this. 
    Firstly, I would agree with anyone that says God's enemies should be destroyed.
    After all, the Earth cannot be cleansed whilst God's enemies remain. 
    Secondly, that scripture   Berean Study Bible Matthew 5 v 44
    But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you,
    This was spoken to the Anointed by Jesus, and it is saying to the Anointed to love THEIR enemies, NOT to love God's enemies. 
    In this one instance I will agree with A Morris, to hate God's enemies. 
    Now here we venture into another topic, that of, who has the job of deciding who God's enemies are ? Well concerning God's enemies, by their works we will know them, so here the True Anointed will know who they are. Even we of the earthly class, that are not JWs, would be able to see some who directly work against God. 
    A villain is not a villain 27/7, sometimes they may even do something good. It's the same with the GB of the Watchtower/JW Org. 
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    His actions, contrary to Jesus' words remind me of Hebrews 4:12:
    For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any double-edged sword, penetrating as far as the separation of soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    His actions, contrary to Jesus' words remind me of Hebrews 4:12:
    For the word of God is living and effective and sharper than any double-edged sword, penetrating as far as the separation of soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart.
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    Witness reacted to Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”.  Matt 5:44  (what did A. Morris say about his “enemies”)
    This is really serious and sobering. You connected that perfectly! Thanks! The "spirit" of A. Morris' is bad spirit.
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    As has been brought out, all the trumpeting that is done by JW leaders and JWs in general, about “obeying God as ruler, rather than men” is very flexible, very hypocritical, when it comes listening and obeying secular authorities.  The “rule” is followed when it is convenient for the organization.  It’s that simple. 
    But my point is, all JWs inside Wt. are obeying men, and not God.  This is where the account in Acts 5 applies.  No man has the right to judge another as “dead” for preaching about Christ’s headship over them, and for rejecting teachings that contradict God’s Word. But, it is happening, probably daily in your organization.
    Jesus was judged as a seditionist for obeying the Father, rather than men and their traditions and doctrine. (Mark 7:8,9) The same is happening in the organization when we preach the rulership of Christ over the rulership of the GB and elders.   Their rulership is absolutely bogus and deceptive. (Luke 22:24-27; Matt 24:24; Luke 12:45,46; Rev 13:11-17)  No self-imposed “faithful slave” should expect unwavering obedience to them, or to expect whole-hearted servitude toward their earthly ‘projects’,  under the written proof  that their word contradicts the Word of God.  Even so, if they were teach something right, (because many false prophets can spit out some truth in the Bible) it doesn’t give cause to adopt them as our Head. (Matt 7:15-20)  We don’t become slaves of men.  We follow only God and Jesus.  An authentic faithful slave’s words would be in total harmony with Christ’s truth. 
    Don’t you know that when you offer yourselves to someone as obedient slaves, you are slaves of the one you obey—whether you are slaves to sin, which leads to death, or to obedience, which leads to righteousness?  Rom 6:16
    If I offer my devotion to men who have told me lies over the years, am I not a slave to sin?
    When Jesus was on earth, he was punished for rejecting the corrupt leadership; yet for those who rejected him he said,
    “Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you”.  Matt 5:44  (what did A. Morris say about his “enemies”)
    “Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but the one who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven”  Luke 12:10  (what is one of the first questions asked in a judicial meeting?  It is whether the person accepts the GB as the “faithful and discreet slave”)
    “The one who rejects me and doesn’t receive my sayings has this has his judge.  The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day”.  John 12:48
    If we choose Christ’s words over the words of men, does the GB have the authority to judge us as spiritually “dead”?  Absolutely not, but all JWs believe they do. 
    Do you see?  The worst “enemy” we have, the worst “government” we face that can determine whether we spiritually live or die, is the dual power of the organization. (Dan 2:40-43; Rev 9:1-3,9; Isa 64:8;43:21; 1 Pet 2:5,9,10)   Whether or not a corrupt political worldly element takes our physical life is inconsequential, if we are obedient to the words of Christ.  Because…
    “The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.”  John 6:63
    There is no eternal life in the words of the uninspired GB. 
    Last World Power Over the Chosen Ones
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Okay, project this spiritually.  In the organization, are both “Jews” of “Israel” (anointed, Rom 2:29; 9:6-9; Gal 4:26-28)...
    ...And “uncircumcised Gentiles".
    The governing leadership is suppose to be all “Jews” (I have some doubts about this latest crop).  The majority of elders are “Gentiles”.  Who, has given the elders power to convict other “Jews” as seditionists?  Who can put them to "death" in the spiritual sense?  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15)
    The elders have been consistent in upholding the power of the GB, and vice versa; while the anointed “Jews” are told to follow the “oral tradition” of the organization.  (Matt 24:48-51)
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    Okay, project this spiritually.  In the organization, are both “Jews” of “Israel” (anointed, Rom 2:29; 9:6-9; Gal 4:26-28)...
    ...And “uncircumcised Gentiles".
    The governing leadership is suppose to be all “Jews” (I have some doubts about this latest crop).  The majority of elders are “Gentiles”.  Who, has given the elders power to convict other “Jews” as seditionists?  Who can put them to "death" in the spiritual sense?  (John 16:2; Rev 13:15)
    The elders have been consistent in upholding the power of the GB, and vice versa; while the anointed “Jews” are told to follow the “oral tradition” of the organization.  (Matt 24:48-51)
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    Witness got a reaction from Kick_Faceinator in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    The Sanhedrin was the JEWISH RELIGIOUS court system of Israel - of God's nation.  It had power over the temple activities - over the priesthood.    Who today, have power over the anointed Temple "living stones"?  
    The Sanhedrin put Jesus on trial.  Who puts the anointed today on trial?  Your elder body, under the direction of the GB.
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    The Sanhedrin was the JEWISH RELIGIOUS court system of Israel - of God's nation.  It had power over the temple activities - over the priesthood.    Who today, have power over the anointed Temple "living stones"?  
    The Sanhedrin put Jesus on trial.  Who puts the anointed today on trial?  Your elder body, under the direction of the GB.
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You do know the account concerning this one scripture alone?  The apostles were preaching about Jesus Christ in the temple courts.  The Jewish high priest and the Sadducees, were filled with “jealousy”, because converts were being made.  They had them put in the public prison. This account has nothing to do with the “secular authorities”.  It has everything to do with God’s people of the day, and it still does, with God’s spiritual “Israel” today. 
    Who acts like a “high priest” in the organization, replacing Jesus Christ as Head and high priest?  Your governing body.  They are jealous tyrants who refuse any confrontation, any questioning of their teachings and pseudo authority. 
    In the congregation of JWs, where the temple in the anointed is found, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  anointed ones who…
    #1 Preach Jesus Christ as their only Head instead of a wicked slave and a “Gentile” elder body who lord it over them (Luke 22:24-27; Rev 9:3-5; Rev 13:1,2,5-7)…
    #2 Reject an organization (since the authentic organization is the anointed Body of Christ) (1 Cor 12:14; Eph 2:20:22;1 Cor 14:40)…
    #3Reject changes in God’s “set times and laws” – 1914 and all other dates as well as doctrine that changes as shifting shadows…(Dan 7:25; 2 Thess 2:1-4; James 1:17)…
    #Obey God as ruler, rather than men…
    ..are brought before a judicial committee and disfellowshipped – all for following the teachings of Christ and using the example of the apostles, which is to obey God as ruler, rather than men. 
    You would think that your governing body would listen to anyone, especially the anointed who preach about Jesus, but this isn’t the case.  God’s anointed people are to be submissive to another headship and other decrees – the GB’s decrees. (Matt 24:24)
     “If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.” Gal 6:3
     “Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”  Rom 10:3,4
    If ANY JW truly loves God and Christ, that person would discern, that Wt’s leadership has transgressed the fulfillment of the law in Christ – adding to, and expecting obedience to, THEIR word – the word of men not inspired by Holy Spirit.
    The Wt’s leadership is destructive ,and the primary obstacle to eternal life that JWs are facing.  It isn’t the governmental authorities in the world that should concern any of you.  (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You do know the account concerning this one scripture alone?  The apostles were preaching about Jesus Christ in the temple courts.  The Jewish high priest and the Sadducees, were filled with “jealousy”, because converts were being made.  They had them put in the public prison. This account has nothing to do with the “secular authorities”.  It has everything to do with God’s people of the day, and it still does, with God’s spiritual “Israel” today. 
    Who acts like a “high priest” in the organization, replacing Jesus Christ as Head and high priest?  Your governing body.  They are jealous tyrants who refuse any confrontation, any questioning of their teachings and pseudo authority. 
    In the congregation of JWs, where the temple in the anointed is found, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  anointed ones who…
    #1 Preach Jesus Christ as their only Head instead of a wicked slave and a “Gentile” elder body who lord it over them (Luke 22:24-27; Rev 9:3-5; Rev 13:1,2,5-7)…
    #2 Reject an organization (since the authentic organization is the anointed Body of Christ) (1 Cor 12:14; Eph 2:20:22;1 Cor 14:40)…
    #3Reject changes in God’s “set times and laws” – 1914 and all other dates as well as doctrine that changes as shifting shadows…(Dan 7:25; 2 Thess 2:1-4; James 1:17)…
    #Obey God as ruler, rather than men…
    ..are brought before a judicial committee and disfellowshipped – all for following the teachings of Christ and using the example of the apostles, which is to obey God as ruler, rather than men. 
    You would think that your governing body would listen to anyone, especially the anointed who preach about Jesus, but this isn’t the case.  God’s anointed people are to be submissive to another headship and other decrees – the GB’s decrees. (Matt 24:24)
     “If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.” Gal 6:3
     “Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”  Rom 10:3,4
    If ANY JW truly loves God and Christ, that person would discern, that Wt’s leadership has transgressed the fulfillment of the law in Christ – adding to, and expecting obedience to, THEIR word – the word of men not inspired by Holy Spirit.
    The Wt’s leadership is destructive ,and the primary obstacle to eternal life that JWs are facing.  It isn’t the governmental authorities in the world that should concern any of you.  (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Constitutional petition filed against alternative military service law. Some folks are never happy.   
    You do know the account concerning this one scripture alone?  The apostles were preaching about Jesus Christ in the temple courts.  The Jewish high priest and the Sadducees, were filled with “jealousy”, because converts were being made.  They had them put in the public prison. This account has nothing to do with the “secular authorities”.  It has everything to do with God’s people of the day, and it still does, with God’s spiritual “Israel” today. 
    Who acts like a “high priest” in the organization, replacing Jesus Christ as Head and high priest?  Your governing body.  They are jealous tyrants who refuse any confrontation, any questioning of their teachings and pseudo authority. 
    In the congregation of JWs, where the temple in the anointed is found, (1 Pet 2:5,9; 1 Cor 3:16,17)  anointed ones who…
    #1 Preach Jesus Christ as their only Head instead of a wicked slave and a “Gentile” elder body who lord it over them (Luke 22:24-27; Rev 9:3-5; Rev 13:1,2,5-7)…
    #2 Reject an organization (since the authentic organization is the anointed Body of Christ) (1 Cor 12:14; Eph 2:20:22;1 Cor 14:40)…
    #3Reject changes in God’s “set times and laws” – 1914 and all other dates as well as doctrine that changes as shifting shadows…(Dan 7:25; 2 Thess 2:1-4; James 1:17)…
    #Obey God as ruler, rather than men…
    ..are brought before a judicial committee and disfellowshipped – all for following the teachings of Christ and using the example of the apostles, which is to obey God as ruler, rather than men. 
    You would think that your governing body would listen to anyone, especially the anointed who preach about Jesus, but this isn’t the case.  God’s anointed people are to be submissive to another headship and other decrees – the GB’s decrees. (Matt 24:24)
     “If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.” Gal 6:3
     “Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.”  Rom 10:3,4
    If ANY JW truly loves God and Christ, that person would discern, that Wt’s leadership has transgressed the fulfillment of the law in Christ – adding to, and expecting obedience to, THEIR word – the word of men not inspired by Holy Spirit.
    The Wt’s leadership is destructive ,and the primary obstacle to eternal life that JWs are facing.  It isn’t the governmental authorities in the world that should concern any of you.  (Rev 18:4-8)
     
     
     
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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in THE TESTIMONY OF A BRANCH MEMBER'S WIFE   
    “Don’t let others spoil your faith and joy with their philosophies, their wrong and shallow answers built on men’s thoughts and ideas, instead of on what Christ has said.” Col 2:8 (Living Bible)
    I am sure any past and present JW can come up with just one doctrine that the organization’s leaders had to change their ‘idea’ on, which change is called, “new light”. The list of “clarified” beliefs is extensive. We should remember that nothing that begins in spiritual darkness, can submit to clarification; which is the act of providing more detail to the original statement. If we were to check over the list, we would see the doctrines are not refined to emit progressive spiritual “light” from Jesus Christ, but they are traded out with more lies – more thoughts and delusions stemming from the dark minds of governing leaders. (Isa 5:20; Micah 3:6) 
    This list reveals JWs “stronghold”; teachings that were the cornerstone of their faith when in their heyday, and what JWs relied on to preach, year after year. They proved to be wrong, without having source in the chief cornerstone, Jesus Christ…without having source in the Holy Spirit. (Matt 7:24-27;24:22) This is the most dangerous stronghold that we may allow to overcome us. (Isa 28:7,8,15,18) It affects our spirituality, our prospect of eternal life. Sadly, to fall for such a spiritual refuge requires our whole being; physical, emotional, and spiritual self, to be totally on board with its captive theme and calling. (Ps 9:15; 2 Thess 5:3; 2 Cor 11:3,4) 
    The apostles walked in the footsteps of Christ, speaking his truths, while tearing down worthless ideas of men that contradicted the Word of God. (Zech 8:16; Eph 4:25; 2 Cor 2:17; 4:2,3; 2 Tim 3:1,5,7,8) 
    On the second part of the annual meeting, a Branch member’s wife was interviewed. She mentioned that JWs are at spiritual war, with the focus on advancing pure worship and “primary joy” in God. Spiritual war is raging…against a stronghold of lies. (John 8:44; 2 Cor 4:4; 1 Tim 4:1; 6:12) 
    Pure worship to be given to God is only possible when one acknowledges and teaches steadfast truth, and not human concepts that ultimately will “spoil your faith and joy” as Col 2:8 states. This spiritual decision-making war began in Genesis and continued down through the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. Now, it is reaching its culmination. (Gen 3:15; Deut 30:15-20; Heb 2:14; 1 John 2:14; Eph 6:16; Rev 12:11,13,15,17; Joel 3:14; Rev 16:13-16) 
    “It is true that I am an ordinary, weak human being, but I don’t use human plans and methods to win my battles. 4 I use God’s mighty weapons, not those made by men, to knock down the devil’s strongholds. 5 These weapons can break down every proud argument against God and every wall that can be built to keep men from finding him. With these weapons I can capture rebels and bring them back to God and change them into men whose hearts’ desire is obedience to Christ.” 2 Cor 10:3-5
    “But to do this, you will need the strong belt of truth and the breastplate of God’s approval. In every battle you will need faith as your shield to stop the fiery arrows aimed at you by Satan. And you will need the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit—which is the Word of God.” Eph 6:14,16,17
    A farmer cultivates and sows a field in straight rows, and on good ground that produces an abundant crop. Jesus said the “seed” that we are to sow is reliable truth, in the real sense of the word – the Word of God. It is never discarded. (Mark 4:14-20) Truth can only be found in Christ; and in those anointed teachers who remain in him. (Matt 7:15-19; John 15:5,7,8,16; 13:20; 1 John 3:24; 2 John 1:9) 
    Using this illustration, the organization’s packet of "purchased" seeds sown since day one, were never viable, as living truth. (Luke 4:5-7; 2 Cor 11:13-15) What little truth may have been evident, was eventually replaced with men’s ideas. (2 Pet 2:1-3) 
    There is no life in teachings that are constantly shifted and chucked aside for new thoughts and philosophies. (Mark 4:14; John 15:1-4,15; Matt 7:15-20) There is no clear straight path of progressive light ahead when a leader grapples with revamping an old doctrine, to save his livelihood provided through an earthly organization. (Phil 3:19; Jude 1:12,13)
    “In the past, we thought that the great tribulation began in 1914 when World War I started. We thought that Jehovah “cut short” those days in 1918 when the war ended so that the remaining anointed ones on earth could preach the good news to all nations. (Matt 24:21,22) After that preaching work would be completed, we expected that Satan’s world would be destroyed. So we thought that there were three parts to the great tribulation. It would begin in 1914, it would be interrupted in 1918, and it would finish at Armageddon.” W 13/7/15 p. 13,14
    “Like a madman who throws flaming darts and deadly arrows,
    so is the person who deceives his neighbor
    and says, “I was only joking!” Prov 26:18,19
    That article goes on with more thoughts and expectations that JWs believed and taught (sown) as truths. We can easily say that the organization’s leaders did not sow straight rows or a path leading others to the teaching of Jesus Christ. (Prov 10:9; 4:14; 3:5,6; Ps 16:11; Isa 30:21; Luke 3:4-6; John 14:6) 
    They led' and are still leading their captive ones with crooked, empty teachings spoken from the heart; all, while building not only their earthly treasures with human slavery, but reinforcing their stronghold of lies. (Ps 12:2-4;41:6; Jer 7:8;Ezek 13:10; Matt 15:19; John 8:44; Matt 6:19,20,24; Rom 6:16; Rev 13:10) 
    “Yet those other men keep telling you how wonderful they are, so here I go: You think you are so wise—yet you listen gladly to those fools; you don’t mind at all when they make you their slaves and take everything you have, and take advantage of you, and put on airs, and slap you in the face.” 2 Cor 11:18-20
    “Don’t be misled; remember that you can’t ignore God and get away with it: a man will always reap just the kind of crop he sows! If he sows to please his own wrong desires, he will be planting seeds of evil and he will surely reap a harvest of spiritual decay and death; but if he plants the good things of the Spirit, he will reap the everlasting life that the Holy Spirit gives him.” Gal 6:7,8
    The organization’s “clarified” beliefs is a list of wrong thoughts, ideas and desires of men; with not one glimmer of spiritual light leading to life in Christ. (Jer 14:14; Ps 97:11; John 6:63; 12:46; 2 Cor 6:14) 
    None of us, especially the anointed priests who have the obligation to give God pure worship through their “sacrifices of praise”, (Ps 4:5; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 13:15) should allow the hollow delusions of men and their dominating influence, lead us away from worshiping the Father in spirit and truth. (Prov 12:22; Ps 5:9; 4:5; John 4:23,24) 
    The woman interviewed, also said that God’s sovereignty was first and foremost in importance for her. Will any heart that cultivates lies, be worthy of service in the Kingdom of God? (Ps 5:4; Rev 19:8; 21:8) 
    Someone said, “sovereignty” can be summed up in two words, “who rules?”. Who rules over us, if we choose the decrees and doctrine of men, over the decrees of God fulfilled in Christ? (Ps 119:130; 1:1,2; 4:2; Matt 15:9; 23:13; Mark 7:8; 1 Thess 2:13) 
    Why did Jesus compare our being a useful servant of God's sovereignty, to a farmer ...plowing the ground for the planting of seed?
    This comparison within the Bible, is not new. The Bible compares the Word of God, to seed (Luke 8:11).
    It compares the spiritual fertility of our heart, to soil (Luke 8:15; Hos 10:12; 6:3; Isa 44:3; 45:8; 2 Cor 9:10; Jer 4:3; Luke 8:14; 1 Cor 3:6; Eph 3:16,17)
    From those verses we see, that the purpose of symbolic rain from heaven [living waters (Rev 22:1; John 4:10,14)], is to nurture our growth in righteousness, sanctification, and holiness, by the blessing of God's spirit. We too must supplement God's blessing, by contributing a plowed heart... soil that is softened to accept God's Laws (Heb 10:16) and the life they impart (Rom 8:11,2; Gal 6:8; Prov 6:20-23).
    We must strive for progressive understanding... nurturing our growth in the knowledge of God within us (John 6:27; Phil 1:9)  
    Pearl Doxsey - "Don't Look Back"
     
    The JW ended her interview by saying she had gained peace and confidence in “the decisions this organization makes through the governing body”. She then said, it is “easier to be supportive, and listen, obey and be blessed”.
    Sadly, this woman and all JWs who support their leadership, are taking part in the spiritual battle against Truth in Jesus Christ. (Rev 12:7; 18:4) Her stronghold is not in God alone and His Word, His laws in Jesus Christ. JWs rely on men and their ideas to lead them, as the Pharisees expected of the early Jews. (Mark 7:6-8; Matt 23:27,28,15) 
    By submitting to the rebellious words of men over the Word of Christ, the anointed priestly “kings of the earth”  (Rev 1:5) and those in their company, have blindly rejected the sovereignty of the One they assume they uphold.
    Their refuge is the organization, while the yoke they have accepted, is in the deceitful scheme founded on a lie – a stronghold that will be brought down, in the light of God’s Truth. (Zech 4:7-9; Ezek 13:13-16; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:4,7,8;8:8; 19:20; 20:10; Jer 23:29) (Ps 19:1-7; Matt 14:62; 24:27,30; John 8:12; Heb 12:1; Rev 22:17)
     
    “Why do the nations rebel
    and the people plot (“ponder, imagine, mutter”) a vain (“worthless or empty”) thing?
    2 The kings of the earth take their stand,
    and the rulers conspire together
    against the Lord and His Anointed One:
    3 “Let us tear off their chains
    and free ourselves from their restraints.”
    4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
    the Lord ridicules them.
    5 Then He speaks to them in His anger
    and terrifies them in His wrath:
    6 “I have consecrated My King
    on Zion, My holy mountain.”
    7 I will declare the Lord’s decree:
    He said to Me, “You are My Son;
    today I have become Your Father.
    8 Ask of Me,
    and I will make the nations Your inheritance
    and the ends of the earth Your possession.
    9 You will break them with a rod of iron;
    You will shatter them like pottery.”
    10 So now, kings, be wise;
    receive instruction, you judges of the earth.
    11 Serve the Lord with reverential awe
    and rejoice with trembling.
    12 Pay homage to the Son or He will be angry
    and you will perish in your rebellion,
    for His anger may ignite at any moment.
    All those who take refuge in Him are blessed.” Ps 2:1-12
     
     
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
    Who are the "Kings of the Earth"? 
    “Lightning” – “From East to West”
    "Armageddon"
     
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in THE TESTIMONY OF A BRANCH MEMBER'S WIFE   
    “Don’t let others spoil your faith and joy with their philosophies, their wrong and shallow answers built on men’s thoughts and ideas, instead of on what Christ has said.” Col 2:8 (Living Bible)
    I am sure any past and present JW can come up with just one doctrine that the organization’s leaders had to change their ‘idea’ on, which change is called, “new light”. The list of “clarified” beliefs is extensive. We should remember that nothing that begins in spiritual darkness, can submit to clarification; which is the act of providing more detail to the original statement. If we were to check over the list, we would see the doctrines are not refined to emit progressive spiritual “light” from Jesus Christ, but they are traded out with more lies – more thoughts and delusions stemming from the dark minds of governing leaders. (Isa 5:20; Micah 3:6) 
    This list reveals JWs “stronghold”; teachings that were the cornerstone of their faith when in their heyday, and what JWs relied on to preach, year after year. They proved to be wrong, without having source in the chief cornerstone, Jesus Christ…without having source in the Holy Spirit. (Matt 7:24-27;24:22) This is the most dangerous stronghold that we may allow to overcome us. (Isa 28:7,8,15,18) It affects our spirituality, our prospect of eternal life. Sadly, to fall for such a spiritual refuge requires our whole being; physical, emotional, and spiritual self, to be totally on board with its captive theme and calling. (Ps 9:15; 2 Thess 5:3; 2 Cor 11:3,4) 
    The apostles walked in the footsteps of Christ, speaking his truths, while tearing down worthless ideas of men that contradicted the Word of God. (Zech 8:16; Eph 4:25; 2 Cor 2:17; 4:2,3; 2 Tim 3:1,5,7,8) 
    On the second part of the annual meeting, a Branch member’s wife was interviewed. She mentioned that JWs are at spiritual war, with the focus on advancing pure worship and “primary joy” in God. Spiritual war is raging…against a stronghold of lies. (John 8:44; 2 Cor 4:4; 1 Tim 4:1; 6:12) 
    Pure worship to be given to God is only possible when one acknowledges and teaches steadfast truth, and not human concepts that ultimately will “spoil your faith and joy” as Col 2:8 states. This spiritual decision-making war began in Genesis and continued down through the teachings of Jesus and the apostles. Now, it is reaching its culmination. (Gen 3:15; Deut 30:15-20; Heb 2:14; 1 John 2:14; Eph 6:16; Rev 12:11,13,15,17; Joel 3:14; Rev 16:13-16) 
    “It is true that I am an ordinary, weak human being, but I don’t use human plans and methods to win my battles. 4 I use God’s mighty weapons, not those made by men, to knock down the devil’s strongholds. 5 These weapons can break down every proud argument against God and every wall that can be built to keep men from finding him. With these weapons I can capture rebels and bring them back to God and change them into men whose hearts’ desire is obedience to Christ.” 2 Cor 10:3-5
    “But to do this, you will need the strong belt of truth and the breastplate of God’s approval. In every battle you will need faith as your shield to stop the fiery arrows aimed at you by Satan. And you will need the helmet of salvation and the sword of the Spirit—which is the Word of God.” Eph 6:14,16,17
    A farmer cultivates and sows a field in straight rows, and on good ground that produces an abundant crop. Jesus said the “seed” that we are to sow is reliable truth, in the real sense of the word – the Word of God. It is never discarded. (Mark 4:14-20) Truth can only be found in Christ; and in those anointed teachers who remain in him. (Matt 7:15-19; John 15:5,7,8,16; 13:20; 1 John 3:24; 2 John 1:9) 
    Using this illustration, the organization’s packet of "purchased" seeds sown since day one, were never viable, as living truth. (Luke 4:5-7; 2 Cor 11:13-15) What little truth may have been evident, was eventually replaced with men’s ideas. (2 Pet 2:1-3) 
    There is no life in teachings that are constantly shifted and chucked aside for new thoughts and philosophies. (Mark 4:14; John 15:1-4,15; Matt 7:15-20) There is no clear straight path of progressive light ahead when a leader grapples with revamping an old doctrine, to save his livelihood provided through an earthly organization. (Phil 3:19; Jude 1:12,13)
    “In the past, we thought that the great tribulation began in 1914 when World War I started. We thought that Jehovah “cut short” those days in 1918 when the war ended so that the remaining anointed ones on earth could preach the good news to all nations. (Matt 24:21,22) After that preaching work would be completed, we expected that Satan’s world would be destroyed. So we thought that there were three parts to the great tribulation. It would begin in 1914, it would be interrupted in 1918, and it would finish at Armageddon.” W 13/7/15 p. 13,14
    “Like a madman who throws flaming darts and deadly arrows,
    so is the person who deceives his neighbor
    and says, “I was only joking!” Prov 26:18,19
    That article goes on with more thoughts and expectations that JWs believed and taught (sown) as truths. We can easily say that the organization’s leaders did not sow straight rows or a path leading others to the teaching of Jesus Christ. (Prov 10:9; 4:14; 3:5,6; Ps 16:11; Isa 30:21; Luke 3:4-6; John 14:6) 
    They led' and are still leading their captive ones with crooked, empty teachings spoken from the heart; all, while building not only their earthly treasures with human slavery, but reinforcing their stronghold of lies. (Ps 12:2-4;41:6; Jer 7:8;Ezek 13:10; Matt 15:19; John 8:44; Matt 6:19,20,24; Rom 6:16; Rev 13:10) 
    “Yet those other men keep telling you how wonderful they are, so here I go: You think you are so wise—yet you listen gladly to those fools; you don’t mind at all when they make you their slaves and take everything you have, and take advantage of you, and put on airs, and slap you in the face.” 2 Cor 11:18-20
    “Don’t be misled; remember that you can’t ignore God and get away with it: a man will always reap just the kind of crop he sows! If he sows to please his own wrong desires, he will be planting seeds of evil and he will surely reap a harvest of spiritual decay and death; but if he plants the good things of the Spirit, he will reap the everlasting life that the Holy Spirit gives him.” Gal 6:7,8
    The organization’s “clarified” beliefs is a list of wrong thoughts, ideas and desires of men; with not one glimmer of spiritual light leading to life in Christ. (Jer 14:14; Ps 97:11; John 6:63; 12:46; 2 Cor 6:14) 
    None of us, especially the anointed priests who have the obligation to give God pure worship through their “sacrifices of praise”, (Ps 4:5; 1 Pet 2:5,9; Heb 13:15) should allow the hollow delusions of men and their dominating influence, lead us away from worshiping the Father in spirit and truth. (Prov 12:22; Ps 5:9; 4:5; John 4:23,24) 
    The woman interviewed, also said that God’s sovereignty was first and foremost in importance for her. Will any heart that cultivates lies, be worthy of service in the Kingdom of God? (Ps 5:4; Rev 19:8; 21:8) 
    Someone said, “sovereignty” can be summed up in two words, “who rules?”. Who rules over us, if we choose the decrees and doctrine of men, over the decrees of God fulfilled in Christ? (Ps 119:130; 1:1,2; 4:2; Matt 15:9; 23:13; Mark 7:8; 1 Thess 2:13) 
    Why did Jesus compare our being a useful servant of God's sovereignty, to a farmer ...plowing the ground for the planting of seed?
    This comparison within the Bible, is not new. The Bible compares the Word of God, to seed (Luke 8:11).
    It compares the spiritual fertility of our heart, to soil (Luke 8:15; Hos 10:12; 6:3; Isa 44:3; 45:8; 2 Cor 9:10; Jer 4:3; Luke 8:14; 1 Cor 3:6; Eph 3:16,17)
    From those verses we see, that the purpose of symbolic rain from heaven [living waters (Rev 22:1; John 4:10,14)], is to nurture our growth in righteousness, sanctification, and holiness, by the blessing of God's spirit. We too must supplement God's blessing, by contributing a plowed heart... soil that is softened to accept God's Laws (Heb 10:16) and the life they impart (Rom 8:11,2; Gal 6:8; Prov 6:20-23).
    We must strive for progressive understanding... nurturing our growth in the knowledge of God within us (John 6:27; Phil 1:9)  
    Pearl Doxsey - "Don't Look Back"
     
    The JW ended her interview by saying she had gained peace and confidence in “the decisions this organization makes through the governing body”. She then said, it is “easier to be supportive, and listen, obey and be blessed”.
    Sadly, this woman and all JWs who support their leadership, are taking part in the spiritual battle against Truth in Jesus Christ. (Rev 12:7; 18:4) Her stronghold is not in God alone and His Word, His laws in Jesus Christ. JWs rely on men and their ideas to lead them, as the Pharisees expected of the early Jews. (Mark 7:6-8; Matt 23:27,28,15) 
    By submitting to the rebellious words of men over the Word of Christ, the anointed priestly “kings of the earth”  (Rev 1:5) and those in their company, have blindly rejected the sovereignty of the One they assume they uphold.
    Their refuge is the organization, while the yoke they have accepted, is in the deceitful scheme founded on a lie – a stronghold that will be brought down, in the light of God’s Truth. (Zech 4:7-9; Ezek 13:13-16; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 13:4,7,8;8:8; 19:20; 20:10; Jer 23:29) (Ps 19:1-7; Matt 14:62; 24:27,30; John 8:12; Heb 12:1; Rev 22:17)
     
    “Why do the nations rebel
    and the people plot (“ponder, imagine, mutter”) a vain (“worthless or empty”) thing?
    2 The kings of the earth take their stand,
    and the rulers conspire together
    against the Lord and His Anointed One:
    3 “Let us tear off their chains
    and free ourselves from their restraints.”
    4 The One enthroned in heaven laughs;
    the Lord ridicules them.
    5 Then He speaks to them in His anger
    and terrifies them in His wrath:
    6 “I have consecrated My King
    on Zion, My holy mountain.”
    7 I will declare the Lord’s decree:
    He said to Me, “You are My Son;
    today I have become Your Father.
    8 Ask of Me,
    and I will make the nations Your inheritance
    and the ends of the earth Your possession.
    9 You will break them with a rod of iron;
    You will shatter them like pottery.”
    10 So now, kings, be wise;
    receive instruction, you judges of the earth.
    11 Serve the Lord with reverential awe
    and rejoice with trembling.
    12 Pay homage to the Son or He will be angry
    and you will perish in your rebellion,
    for His anger may ignite at any moment.
    All those who take refuge in Him are blessed.” Ps 2:1-12
     
     
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/
    Who are the "Kings of the Earth"? 
    “Lightning” – “From East to West”
    "Armageddon"
     
     
     

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    Witness got a reaction from César Chávez in PRIVILEGED SERVICE   
    There is a revealing comment made on a recent organization’s video about trials JWs may face, that would test their faith and hope.  The speaker referred to these times as “storms”, using the account of Peter walking toward Jesus on the water, and how he temporarily lost faith before taking hold of Jesus’ hand. (Matt 14:22-33)   One example that he gave of someone’s ‘temporary, momentary weakness of faith’, was of a missionary couple who was sent home after many years in service.  This was referred to as “adjustments that affect our privileges in service”.  Apparently, this “privilege” to serve the organization in this capacity, came to an end. The person claimed to lose all sense of direction, and nothing in life seemed important. I can imagine how losing a “privilege” can be a demeaning experience. 
    We are aware that hundreds of people have been let go from Bethel at a moment’s notice.  Who was the source of this “storm” that these ousted ones now had to endure?  Who granted, and also removed, the “privilege” that people had thought was toward serving God? The speaker admitted that leaving the ‘comfort zone of full-time service’ can cause a storm.  It can produce fear in what is to come. It is interesting that even though the organization caused this upheaval, the speaker puts the burden on the victim, if they are at all affected by the storm and their ‘faith weakens’.  This really puts the organization on a “god” pedestal, whose decisions cannot be questioned, and who is never guilty for the suffering of others.  It aptly identifies the Beasts of Revelation that demand unwavering loyalty.  (Rev 13:1,2,11,12)
    In the event of a Bethel purge, some individuals have come to realize their entire service was to men, and not to God.  At this epiphany, they left the organization because of it. They recognized that no matter how much they gave and sacrificed of themselves, they were replaceable.  This really is no different than factory workers dismissed from their job without reason. 
    If we are faithful to God and Jesus, and obedient to His word, would we be replaceable?  Is this how God and Jesus express their love to us? (John 3:16; John 14:21; Luke 12:7; 2 Cor 9:8)
    Well, it seems obvious that there is no love in an organization that terminates people without a second thought, or the reason why.  (Matt 22:39; Rom 13:10; John 10:7-13; 1 John 4:9-11; 5:3)
    Can faith and hope flourish, without love?
    “But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.” 1 Cor 13:13
    If love is missing, can truth flourish?
    "Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth"  1 Cor 13:6
    Putting our faith in an earthly organization that is fully immersed in this world, is folly. (Prov 14:8; Isa 2:12,17,7,8) 
    Putting our faith in men and their lusts for power and riches, is pure blindness. (Prov 26:4; Isa 2:8,9,22;Luke 16:15; John 12:40; 2 Cor 4:3,4;11:13-15; Rom 1:25)
    The leadership centralizes their faith and hope in what they have built and desire to keep building.  Yes, they have a storyline to promote to their members and recruited new ones; but it is just that – a fabricated deceitful storyline, absent of God’s truth. (2 Thess 2:9-11) It promises salvation, a concept that is ‘bought’ with one’s full commitment to the organization and its leadership. (Luke 21:8; Rom 6:16; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Pet 2:1-3; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Rev 16:13-16) (John 7:18; 2 Cor 11:3,4,20; Rom 6:16; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,4,7-10,11,16,17)
    The speaker used the illustration of Peter grasping the hand of Jesus as depicting a restoration of his faith.  Jesus wants us to do the same today when we leave the drowning waters of Wormwood – the apostate “city”. (Rev 8:10,11; 13:11; 17:1,2; Luke 17:26-37; Rev 18:4)
    Turning back to the ‘beggarly things’ of the world, as in the case of the missionary rekindling his hope in the organization, will only cause terminal downfall. (Gal 4:9; Phil 3:19; Rev 13:4,8)
    Many who were associated with the "Watchtower" organization, have lost cherished things, due to being cast off as wicked by their local congregation. The spiritual path each one has chosen afterward, has varied. Which of those post-"Watchtower" paths, leads to eternal life?
    What follows, are excerpts from my reply to someone who asked such questions, after his rejection of the wicked steward's wormwood waters, and his exodus from the "City" of apostate Jerusalem. He wants to know how God views these decisions, and what reward he can expect for his discernment and decisive action to cease his association with God's rebellious and idolatrous nation.  Pearl Doxsey
    2 Cor 6:16-18; Eph 4:24,25; 5:11; Ps 26:4; Rev 18:4; Jer 51:6,9,45; Isa 48:20; Matt 24:14-16
    I encourage any who have left the organization, to read her reply:  
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/is-leaving-city-enough.html
     
    Am I being too harsh to say that the organization is an unrelenting, bloodsucking iron beast?  Not in the least.  (Rev 9:1-3,7-11; 13:5-7)
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in PRIVILEGED SERVICE   
    There is a revealing comment made on a recent organization’s video about trials JWs may face, that would test their faith and hope.  The speaker referred to these times as “storms”, using the account of Peter walking toward Jesus on the water, and how he temporarily lost faith before taking hold of Jesus’ hand. (Matt 14:22-33)   One example that he gave of someone’s ‘temporary, momentary weakness of faith’, was of a missionary couple who was sent home after many years in service.  This was referred to as “adjustments that affect our privileges in service”.  Apparently, this “privilege” to serve the organization in this capacity, came to an end. The person claimed to lose all sense of direction, and nothing in life seemed important. I can imagine how losing a “privilege” can be a demeaning experience. 
    We are aware that hundreds of people have been let go from Bethel at a moment’s notice.  Who was the source of this “storm” that these ousted ones now had to endure?  Who granted, and also removed, the “privilege” that people had thought was toward serving God? The speaker admitted that leaving the ‘comfort zone of full-time service’ can cause a storm.  It can produce fear in what is to come. It is interesting that even though the organization caused this upheaval, the speaker puts the burden on the victim, if they are at all affected by the storm and their ‘faith weakens’.  This really puts the organization on a “god” pedestal, whose decisions cannot be questioned, and who is never guilty for the suffering of others.  It aptly identifies the Beasts of Revelation that demand unwavering loyalty.  (Rev 13:1,2,11,12)
    In the event of a Bethel purge, some individuals have come to realize their entire service was to men, and not to God.  At this epiphany, they left the organization because of it. They recognized that no matter how much they gave and sacrificed of themselves, they were replaceable.  This really is no different than factory workers dismissed from their job without reason. 
    If we are faithful to God and Jesus, and obedient to His word, would we be replaceable?  Is this how God and Jesus express their love to us? (John 3:16; John 14:21; Luke 12:7; 2 Cor 9:8)
    Well, it seems obvious that there is no love in an organization that terminates people without a second thought, or the reason why.  (Matt 22:39; Rom 13:10; John 10:7-13; 1 John 4:9-11; 5:3)
    Can faith and hope flourish, without love?
    “But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.” 1 Cor 13:13
    If love is missing, can truth flourish?
    "Love does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth"  1 Cor 13:6
    Putting our faith in an earthly organization that is fully immersed in this world, is folly. (Prov 14:8; Isa 2:12,17,7,8) 
    Putting our faith in men and their lusts for power and riches, is pure blindness. (Prov 26:4; Isa 2:8,9,22;Luke 16:15; John 12:40; 2 Cor 4:3,4;11:13-15; Rom 1:25)
    The leadership centralizes their faith and hope in what they have built and desire to keep building.  Yes, they have a storyline to promote to their members and recruited new ones; but it is just that – a fabricated deceitful storyline, absent of God’s truth. (2 Thess 2:9-11) It promises salvation, a concept that is ‘bought’ with one’s full commitment to the organization and its leadership. (Luke 21:8; Rom 6:16; 1 Tim 4:1; 2 Pet 2:1-3; 2 Tim 4:3,4; Rev 16:13-16) (John 7:18; 2 Cor 11:3,4,20; Rom 6:16; Col 2:8; Rev 13:1,4,7-10,11,16,17)
    The speaker used the illustration of Peter grasping the hand of Jesus as depicting a restoration of his faith.  Jesus wants us to do the same today when we leave the drowning waters of Wormwood – the apostate “city”. (Rev 8:10,11; 13:11; 17:1,2; Luke 17:26-37; Rev 18:4)
    Turning back to the ‘beggarly things’ of the world, as in the case of the missionary rekindling his hope in the organization, will only cause terminal downfall. (Gal 4:9; Phil 3:19; Rev 13:4,8)
    Many who were associated with the "Watchtower" organization, have lost cherished things, due to being cast off as wicked by their local congregation. The spiritual path each one has chosen afterward, has varied. Which of those post-"Watchtower" paths, leads to eternal life?
    What follows, are excerpts from my reply to someone who asked such questions, after his rejection of the wicked steward's wormwood waters, and his exodus from the "City" of apostate Jerusalem. He wants to know how God views these decisions, and what reward he can expect for his discernment and decisive action to cease his association with God's rebellious and idolatrous nation.  Pearl Doxsey
    2 Cor 6:16-18; Eph 4:24,25; 5:11; Ps 26:4; Rev 18:4; Jer 51:6,9,45; Isa 48:20; Matt 24:14-16
    I encourage any who have left the organization, to read her reply:  
    https://4womaninthewilderness.blogspot.com/2016/01/is-leaving-city-enough.html
     
    Am I being too harsh to say that the organization is an unrelenting, bloodsucking iron beast?  Not in the least.  (Rev 9:1-3,7-11; 13:5-7)
     

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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Jehovah’s Witnesses releases Bible in 33 languages, in 2020.   
    Oh dear.  I would hope you would know me better than that by my comments.  Our only leader is God's Word in Christ.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Patiently waiting for Truth in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    Interesting.  They have created a condition where they believe the "world" of 2 Tim 3:1-5  includes everyone else on the outside.  The disciples of Christ left the "world" of their own people to follow him.  It seems clear that these scriptures were being applied to those they had left behind.  Sounds familiar, doesn't it.  
    Just today, I was comparing the GB and their living conditions and status, to what Paul wrote in 1 Cor.  4:9-13:
    "For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. 10 We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ!  We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! 11 To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. 12 We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; 13 when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment."
    The governing leaders are so far from following in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, or in the footsteps of the apostles whom they love to compare themselves with.  
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    Witness got a reaction from Srecko Sostar in Neighbours becoming enemies   
    Interesting.  They have created a condition where they believe the "world" of 2 Tim 3:1-5  includes everyone else on the outside.  The disciples of Christ left the "world" of their own people to follow him.  It seems clear that these scriptures were being applied to those they had left behind.  Sounds familiar, doesn't it.  
    Just today, I was comparing the GB and their living conditions and status, to what Paul wrote in 1 Cor.  4:9-13:
    "For it seems to me that God has put us apostles on display at the end of the procession, like those condemned to die in the arena. We have been made a spectacle to the whole universe, to angels as well as to human beings. 10 We are fools for Christ, but you are so wise in Christ!  We are weak, but you are strong! You are honored, we are dishonored! 11 To this very hour we go hungry and thirsty, we are in rags, we are brutally treated, we are homeless. 12 We work hard with our own hands. When we are cursed, we bless; when we are persecuted, we endure it; 13 when we are slandered, we answer kindly. We have become the scum of the earth, the garbage of the world—right up to this moment."
    The governing leaders are so far from following in the footsteps of Jesus Christ, or in the footsteps of the apostles whom they love to compare themselves with.  
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