Shiwiii

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  1. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    I tried exactly what you propose, only to have the subject changed. On top of that, there cannot be an intellectual conversation when one chooses to dismiss a point without hearing it out.
  2. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    I'd like to continue to have this discussion, but your constant evading and intent to take this down rabbit holes, just doesn't convince me that you are capable of intellectual honesty. Those who follow down this thread to this point will see exactly what I am talking about. If you choose to continue,and truly want to have this discussion, then please by all means make the attempt to try.
  3. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    You cannot develop a conversation without first laying a foundation of what the topic is. You can try and throw out all of your ideas and thoughts to the other party, but most will just go over their head, So for you the word "trinity" needs to be there for you to accept the view is possible? Got it. Is Governing body in there?
  4. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    but you first have to demonstrate your ability to have an intellectually honest conversation. Did you forget this part?
  5. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    John's recordings were that of what the Jews believed. It is not John who is proclaiming the statement, but rather recording it. I'm afraid that your determination to "prove" the word trinity isn't in the Bible just will not work. Everyone knows the word "trinity" does not exist within the manuscripts of the Bible. If that is your "win", then I guess you win.
  6. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    NOWHERE in the Bible is ANY angel equal to GOD! We can discuss each and every instance where you think so, but you first have to demonstrate your ability to have an intellectually honest conversation.
  7. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    We are not talking about John's beliefs here, nor mine nor yours. The statement is what the JEWS thought. John only recorded it. I'm beginning to think you don't even care to discuss, but only to dodge and avoid the Biblical facts presented to you.
  8. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    please elaborate, I'm not seeing where angels being cast into hell and reserved for judgement (by Jesus) has anything to do with the statement I made.
  9. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    So do you believe Jesus equal with the Father? That was the understanding by the Jews of Jesus claim and why John wrote what he did.
  10. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    Do you see somewhere where I said the word "trinity" is in the Bible? No, it is a lame excuse to avoid what is actually said. Just answer the question/statement I made. I'll post it again for you: But what DID John write? He wrote that the Jews understood that Jesus claim was that God was His father, and in the minds of the Jews it made Jesus claim a claim of divinity.
  11. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    Give it up with the jw.borg thing man, if you don't know or can't explain it yourself, then don't even bother. Again, does a King announce himself? No Who is the King? Jesus Would Jesus announce Himself? No, no need to as God's trumpet and the voice of an archangel will do it for Him.
  12. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    But what DID John write? He wrote that the Jews understood that Jesus claim was that God was His father, and in the minds of the Jews it made Jesus claim a claim of divinity. no way around that one Bruceq.
  13. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    So you also believe that Jesus is a trumpet? I could see that, i mean from your way of thinking. Does a King announce himself?
  14. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    And isn't this the whole reason WHY the Jews were going to stone Jesus?(John 10:31-39) The claims Jesus made about Himself, through the eyes of the Jews, made Himself equal to the God of the Jews.
  15. Early Christians Believed in the Trinity

    Kinda like "coming with the voice of an archangel" and the WT looks for an archangel?