Shiwiii

context of your statement tells the story, not your denial.

Oh yes, Indiana, I have and what i found was that Jesus ate with sinners and had compassion for ALL people. He even forgave the criminal who was on the cross next to Him, a criminal! Self professed criminal at that. Did Jesus avoid the adulteress? Nope. Hmmm, maybe we can look at what He said as well.....Matthew 7:1-2....or perhaps we can take a look at what Jesus did for another sinner at John 5:14? So why don't you tell me, Are the actions of shunning ANYONE on par with how Jesus treated others? but this was your implication when you said "On another note tonight I learned a lesson: before attending a wedding ask if they invited a disfellowshipped 🤭" With a smiley face at that. hogwash! EVERYONE attending the wedding would know that the grooms mother would be there, its his wedding.

Is this how Jesus treated others?

Does this statement mean anything to any of you/us? I'd like to hear your thoughts. I ran across it today and I wanted the opinion of this group. It reminds me of the scene in full metal jacket where private Joker refuses to reverse himself because he knows he will be beaten harder if he does. Have any of you made a mistake, or lied, and kept up with it even after you realized you were wrong?

Bahahahahahaa See, I said you were funny. I'll help you out since common sense and logic escape you: One day you will come to realize the error in front of you that you cannot see at this time in your life, it will hurt your pride/ego/mind when you do realize it, but you will one day realize it. Why do you think everything is a personal attack against you? Is it because you are the one normally making such attacks and expect the same in return? Or is it because the wt told you that anyone who is not a jw will attack you? I forgot to add.....eeek, I'm scared.

You're funny. I mean really. Didn't answer my question at all, just created more chatter to try and build yourself up. Oh BTK, one day you'll get it, it will hurt, but you'll get it.

have you not read the court transcripts? If you have, then you are being dishonest, If you haven't, then you need to educate yourself.

right! oh, wait......it is the wt who classified them as such.

I wonder what that will do? Will the wt abide by the law? Will the wt appeal? Will Norway become a reproof only region?

Agreed. Key words: "crime" "secret" "qualified"

Why? Give me one good reason why one would NOT report it? I disagree. The law does not state that clergy is NOT allowed to report. That being said, if they report, they are not breaking the law. This is partially true, the clergy privilege is when something is confessed one on one, not in the group setting as in a judicial meeting. How would anyone else in the cong know if it was only confessed to the elders? They wouldn't, unless they were part of it This is why a private reproof is BS! again, you are thinking along the lines that secular authorities need to correct the wt, they will, just wait and see. Why is it that in the elders handbook that vandalism is reported immediately but child abuse is not? Does that seem right to you? I know it doesn't and that you don't think that way, but the wt does.

I agree with you. Why can't the wt see this as well? Why does it take force to do the right thing? Why does it take secular laws to force the wt to be Christ-like?

Court transcripts: In February 1994, Evelyn and Andrea reported Kendrick's July 1993 sexual abuse of Andrea to the Fremont Police Department ("Fremont Police") and to Child Protective Services---Conti-Watchtower_North_Freemont_Cong._appellate_brief.pdf $35 million in Montana Fessler settlement Conti Campos 16 cases handled by Love & Norris law firm and a pay out of over $13 million just to name a few and I am sure there will be plenty more to come. And again I ask: Did they (edlers/wt) act in a Christ like way in the way that they handled any of these cases? Of course you don't. It doesn't work that way. I am glad to hear you say these things. I think we all want this. if it helps others , I agree. I think some of what you said in this paragraph is a little extreme, but I get the gist of what you are saying. Restricting people shouldn't be the answer, reporting it to those who are trained to handle such cases is. I really want to know your opinion on this, Do YOU think it is right that elders are to contact the legal dept and not the police?

It couldn't have been. Why you ask? because it would make "Jehovah" sad.......( It makes a huge difference as seen in the many many court cases going on right now against the wt. Lots of money is being taken from the wt because of their failure to report when they are aware of the abuse happening. Your prerogative, yes, however you've been trained not to because it would bring reproach on the name "Jehovah" aka. the wt. It didn't help Candice because the wt didn't warn the cong. Again, it is all because it would make "Jehovah" sad. She won, period. There is no law about letting the cong know, I get that, but I would hardly say that the elders were "protecting the flock". Let me ask you something: Did they (edlers/wt) act in a Christ like way in the way that they handled Kendrick and his potential to harm more children? Maybe, maybe not. But you know what she did get? Publicity! That right there opened the flood gates to give courage to others who were abused, to stand up and do something about it. it was the leak in the dam, and when the wt lost, others saw that it was possible to make the wt pay for their crimes! you can claim that she is a hater or a seeker of money, but that is what you have been told she is, but it doesn't make it so.

No truer words spoken. It really isn't the rank and files fault either, they have been conditioned over the years to think that way by the way the publications are worded. If they say it subtly enough times, its bound to stick.