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John 17:3 ‘know thee the only true God’
Jesus.defender replied to Jesus.defender's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
I don't know what your point is here. First, get rid of the NIV and ignore footnotes as they are just somebodys' opinion. Yes, the Holy Spirit raised Jesus. So did God the father and Jesus. "But he spake of the temple of his body" The greek word here means a LITERAL, PHYSICAL Body. The bottom line is the Bible CLEARLY showing that the triune God raised Jesus. Oh, i think all of us are biased to some degree. But yes. What does the text say is the question. Again, In John 14:28 Jesus is not speaking about His nature or being (Christ had earl -
John 17:3 ‘know thee the only true God’
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Ah, so you cannot address any of the BIBLE verses i gave? So you are now running away. -
John 17:3 ‘know thee the only true God’
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Wrong. Only those indoctrinated by men or organisations. If you had READ the article, which i know as a JW you are not allowed to, Jesus IS referred to as Almighty God. When did He say this? Oh, WHEN HE WAS ON EARTH where He humbled Himself. In John 14:28 Jesus is not speaking about His nature or being (Christ had earlier said in John 10:30, ‘I and the Father are one’), but about His lowly position of incarnation as a man. The Athanasian Creed says that Christ is ‘equal to the Father as touching His Godhood, and inferior to the Father as touching His manhood’. Christ w -
John 17:3 ‘know thee the only true God’ The Watchtower says that, because the Father is called ‘the only true God’, then Jesus cannot be the true God. Ask: The context is Jesus as a man, praying the great high priestly prayer to the Father, and as such it was proper for the man Christ Jesus to call the Father ‘the only true God’. Christ would not have said this if it was spoken from the viewpoint of His deity. Ask: Since Jesus being called our only Lord (Jude 4 NWT) does not exclude the Father (Matthew 11:25) and the Holy Spirit from being called Lord, why must the Father b
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Yes, they are your infallible authority over you. And yes, "Jehovah" DOES speak through the watchtower. "commissioned to serve as the mouthpiece and active agent of Jehovah … commission to speak as a prophet in the name of Jehovah…" The Nations Shall Know that I am Jehovah" - How? pp.58,62 "… commission to speak as a "prophet" in His name…" Watchtower 1972 Mar 15 p.189 "The Watchtower is a magazine without equal in the earth …. This is not giving any credit to the magazine's publishers, but is due to the great Author of the Bible with it truths and prophecies, and who now i
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Really? "But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves. Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Who
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Firstborn or First created?
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Wrong. The watchtower has LIED to you. Jesus created ALL things. the watchtower inserted the word "other" just before the word "things". But, the original does NOT say that! 6ὅτι (because) ἐν (in) αὐτῷ (Him) ἐκτίσθη (were created) τὰ (-) πάντα (all things) ἐν (in) τοῖς (the) οὐρανοῖς (heavens) καὶ (and) ἐπὶ (upon) τῆς (the) γῆς (earth), τὰ (the) ὁρατὰ (visible) καὶ (and) τὰ (the) ἀόρατα (invisible), εἴτε (whether) θρόνοι (thrones) εἴτε (or) κυριότητες (dominions) εἴτε (or) ἀρχαὶ (rulers) εἴτε (or) ἐξουσίαι (authorities); τὰ (-) πάντα (all things) δι’ (through) αὐτοῦ (Him) κ -
Firstborn or First created?
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You obviously did NOT read my post. what you SHOULD of said was "Jacob got rights of first born but he was not first created" Jesus is greated than david because Jesus CREATED david! -
Yes. And the watchtower has a history on being wrong on MANY topics. ie: Will the men of Sodom be resurrected? Yes....Watchtower 7/1879 page 8 No.....Watchtower 6/1/52 page 338 Yes....Watchtower 8/1/65, page 479 No.....Watchtower 6/1/88, page 31 Yes...Live Forever (old Ed.) page 179 No....Live Forever (new Ed.) page 179 Yes...Insight, vol. 2., page 985 No...Revelation book, page 273. 6,000 years from Adam ended in A.D. 1872. (Daily Heavenly Manna, inside cover page) 6,000 years of human history ended in 1873.(The Time is at Hand, p.33) 6,000 years of
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Then you are NOT a Jehovah's Witness. "Avoid independent thinking...questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization. ( ie: the watchtower organisation )" (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 22) "Fight against independent thinking." (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 27 ) "Fight for Jesus" That IS what i am doing right now, my friend. "but wthout Jehovah, you NEVER will reach the goal for everlasting life, sorry ;-(" You are right. _I_ can do NOTHING. JESUS has already done it and promised me eternal, everlasting life. "These things have I
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Really? You could not even address the quotes i gave? This is your OWN material. it is NOT "apostate".
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Firstborn or First created?
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Address the verses i gave. Not just give your opinion. -
Firstborn or First created?
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Show me the source for this, please. which Bible, etc? First creation was Jesus in heaven and firstborn as a man on earth." That is NOT what the Bible teaches. You are twisting things to suit your theology. Let me guess, the WATCHTOWER taught you this. If Jesus created ALL things, then He cant have been created. The word "other" which the watchtower deceitfully inserts into your translation is NOT found anywhere in the original. -
Firstborn or First created?
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True. How can we trust the current "light" they have if it is going to "get brighter" or get replaced by "new light" maybe tomorrow? "Avoid independent thinking...questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization. ( ie: the watchtower organisation )" (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 22) "Fight against independent thinking." (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 27 ) "Thus the Bible is an organizational book and belongs to the Christian congregation as an organization ( ie: the watchtower ), not to individuals, regardless of how sincerely they may believe that t
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JEHOVAH’S NAME or JESUS CHRIST’S NAME.
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Address the scripture verses i gave. You cannot. -
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