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You should see the mirror-image posted there.
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You should not post such things in the open club. Try the closed club, where every sort of riff-raff abounds.
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Uncovering Discrepancies in Secular History
TrueTomHarley replied to George88's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
No. We’re about to throw him out of there, too, and into the open club. That’s nothing. You should see how bad he gets when he’s challenging ME! -
Uncovering Discrepancies in Secular History
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He’s mine. We manipulators in the closed club drew straws for him, and I won. -
Uncovering Discrepancies in Secular History
TrueTomHarley replied to George88's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
I have often reflected upon this. -
Uncovering Discrepancies in Secular History
TrueTomHarley replied to George88's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
Oh, don’t worry about it. The Librarian (that old hen) is three sheets to the wind about now. -
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TrueTomHarley replied to George88's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
I dunno. From this perspective it appears that glue could not stick to them any tighter. -
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Yeah, you probably are still cowering in the basement from Orson Wells reading War of the Worlds. Lions and tigers and Martians—oh my. -
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TrueTomHarley replied to Matthew9969's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
A greater den of scum and villainy has never been than in the closed club. I do my best to keep them in line, because someone has to do it—I owe it to the old hen—but let me tell you, it’s exhausting. -
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Oh, it’s nothing like in the closed club. Their lack of understanding is so great they barely know how to tie their shoes. -
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TrueTomHarley replied to Matthew9969's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
The submerged iceberg, of which it is tempting to focus on the visible tip, is the Norwegian judge’s words that he finds it ‘reasonable that boyfriends and girlfriends are going to have sex with one another.’ Make no mistake that if he didn’t find it ‘reasonable,’ as previous generations have not, he would be more amenable to the Witnesses’ discipline. He might still find it severe, but he would not likely find it illegal. But he has acquiesced to a new norm like that of my extended family, in which a 14-year-old daughter dates a 16-year-old who has his drivers’ license. As long as they are home by 9 PM, not a problem. ‘He’s a good kid,’ they say of him. And, as kids go, he probably is. But, forget about Bible principles. The challenge, which can be expected to increase, is to navigate Jehovah’s organization amidst a world that disdains the values it stand for, that considers Bible morality backwards and even harmful, and that begins to concoct laws against it. Even Matthew raises no objection to this. Maybe he doesn’t know of the judge’s words. Maybe he knows but blows them off as nothing, joining the church world insistent upon retaining the label ‘Christian’ but not so insistent upon the conduct that identifies a person as one, being more outraged over discipline than the immoral conduct that calls for it. Suicide is bad, so it is right if the Christian organization takes it seriously, modifying procedures, perhaps partly for that reason. It’s all good and welcome. Be proactive as you can. Many things done can be done differently. Many things can be tweaked to take into account changing times. It appears this is happening. But it should also be kept in mind that suicide is all the rage among the young today. They have inherited an impossible world from older generations (who also do not apologize for it) and many of them break under the strain. When my wife and I visited Ithaca, we passed a bridge on which obscenities were painted about Cornell, presumably due to the suicides that take place, some by jumping off that bridge. Ought Cornell be held liable for putting so much pressure upon young people? Or ought their parents be held liable, for pressuring the importance of ‘success’ at all costs? Anyone apologize for handing them such a world? Or what of this young person crying because she works at a good job and cannot afford rent. Just like that, it goes up by $900 in a month and she can no longer afford to eat.. Anyone apologize to her over that? https://www.dailydot.com/news/woman-has-to-cut-back-on-eating/ Or adults create AI, and just like that, it is used against children, deep-faking them naked and in sexual acts. No apologies there, either. Schools themselves are nightmares to attend, at least in the U.S, where bullying without consequence runs rampant, and yet students are sentenced into such unsafe places—it’s not as though they can opt out. Any apologies? Not only is there not, but there is a steady stream of people with degrees telling of how they are about to turn the situation around, just as they were 40 years ago. It is a pretty lengthy list of how today’s world has absolutely failed its young people, and many of them take their lives over it. As ‘repressive’ as some Witness families might be, as much as some might view them as ‘hemming people in,’ they are also sources of support and stability. You do not want to cut yourself off from your family. But the young today are encouraged to do just that, cut themselves off from where there is a safety net to leap to where there is not. All a young person must do is abide by family rules, while they are living with family, and they are fine. Previous generations, for the most part, have recognized and supported this basic fact of human life. The present one does not, and is being encouraged to not recognize and recognize it by people who will not be there to break a young person’s fall should they take one. As much as I hear that Jehovah’s Witnesses are ‘insular,’ they can’t hold a candle to the insularity of those who oppose them. To hear the latter carry on, you would think the present world is a paradise and all would know it were it not for ‘scare’ tactics of the Witnesses. -
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It just makes life easier when people don’t go kicking against the goads over every silly little thing. Save your kicking for when it is important. Nathaniel Hawthorne put it this way in The Scarlet Letter: “It is remarkable that persons who speculate the most boldly often conform with the most perfect quietude to the external regulations of society.” Nobody speculates more boldly than Jehovah’s Witnesses, who, in the main, are able to “conform with the most perfect quietude to the external regulations of society.” This can result in dumb situations in which people resist innocuous trends in the greater world because nobody wants to be the first to upset the status quo. In such cases, people quite reasonably look to examples from those taking the lead, It is sort of sheeplike behavior, but then—what does the Bible say about sheep? We’re clearing out a lot of nonsense now that you might have hoped would have been cleared out long ago. Times change. If you can change with them without sacrificing any core principles, that’s the thing to do. It makes life easier. You find yourself not taking a hard stand over things that don’t matter. I don’t think the GB particularly like saying, ‘Okay, now you can do this or that.’ But apparently they have come to feel sheeplike people need that from time to time. In 2017, they said beards are fine where local norms don’t get in the way. I think they were surprised that no one took them up on it, necessitating a GB update complete with bells, whistles, video history, and chariot: https://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2023/12/beards-get-the-green-light.html
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He didn’t shave it at the border is the point.
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Doesn’t matter. I’m growing one like Rip Van Winkle as we speak. Long enough to sweep the kitchen floor with.
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You don’t seem anywhere near sensitive enough to share that information with. You might mess it up. Ask Rolf. He’ll help you.
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Go Rolf. I always liked the guy.
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TrueTomHarley replied to JW Insider's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
Probably Chuck Berry, distraught that they had ripped off one of his songs. -
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Regularly I am summoned by the powers that be that run this site. ’Not more praise and honors!’ I say in disgust. ‘This gets so old.’ -
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TrueTomHarley replied to JW Insider's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
Even worse is the one about the genie that emerged from the lamp and granted a wish. The finder wished for a bridge to Hawaii, since he had always wanted to visit but got seasick and was afraid to fly. Whereupon, the genie calculated the difficulties of building such a bridge, the quantity of concrete required, driving piles into shifting seismic plates, etc, and said he couldn’t do it. Please make another wish. The fellow then wished he could understand women, something he had long wanted to do but had never been able. ’You want that bridge two lanes or four?’ the genie said. -
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TrueTomHarley replied to JW Insider's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
I’d say I gave these guys from Metallica pretty good advice. The deal is even better today. They no longer have to shave off those beards, but still, if they get their act together, might be assigned to write, not one, but two, original songs in view of their background. I don’t know what became of Cesar, anyway. He was a very difficult guy to please, downvoting most anything. -
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TrueTomHarley replied to JW Insider's topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's Topics
Then there was the one of the grizzled farmer collecting his mail-order wife. Riding home, the horse evaded a mouse and jostled the carriage. ‘That’s one!’ the fellow said. It later pulled through a puddle and splashed the riders. ‘That’s two!’ he said. Then it strode beneath a low branch which slapped the riders. ‘That’s three!’ he said, stopped the carriage and shot the horse. ’What did you do that for?’ his new wife cried. ‘That’s one!’ he said.