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  1. Bible Verses on Timing and What They Mean I. Three and a half years A. "A time, times, and half a time" (Daniel 7:25) B. "An appointed time, appointed times, and half a time" (Daniel 12:7) C. "The appointed times" (Luke 21:24) D. "A time and times and half a time" (Revelation 12:14) E. "42 months" (Revelation 13:5) II. Days A. "2,300 evenings and mornings" (Daniel 8:14) B. "1,260 days" (Revelation 12:6) C. "1,290 days" (Daniel 12:11) D. "1,335 days" (Daniel 12:12) The Bible shows that the great tribulation will last 3 1/2 years. Daniel 7:25 in context goes through the march of some world powers. The UN is the last beast. (The US/UK breathe life into the UN. The UN is an extension of the US/UK in this vision.) "He will speak words against the Most High, and he will continually harass the holy ones of the Supreme One. He will intend to change times and law, and they will be given into his hand for a time, times, and half a time." The UN will oppress Jehovah's people and it will be 3 1/2 years. Daniel 12:7 in context while Russian president (King of North) cornered ("comes all the way to his end and there is no helper for him"), Michael stands up (Jesus finally receives kingdom in heaven) and great tribulation begins. ""How long will it be to the end of these marvelous things?” Then I heard the man clothed in linen, who was up above the waters of the stream, as he raised his right hand and his left hand to the heavens and swore by the One who is alive forever: “It will be for an appointed time, appointed times, and half a time. As soon as the dashing to pieces of the power of the holy people comes to an end, all these things will come to their finish.”" Jehovah's organization will be "dashed to pieces" and there will be three and a half years. Luke 21:24 context is the time of the end: "...because these are days for meting out justice in order that all the things written may be fulfilled...For there will be great distress on the land and wrath against this people. And they will fall by the edge of the sword and be led captive into all the nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled on by the nations until the appointed times of the nations are fulfilled." The appointed times that the UN (the nations) will trample on Jehovah's organization/people will be during the great tribulation. Jesus was talking about during the tribulation. Revelation 12:14 shows what the Devil does after he is finally cast down by Michael: "Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.” Now when the dragon saw that it had been hurled down to the earth, it persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is to be fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent." The "male child" represents the completed sealed anointed, who will rule in the kingdom with Christ. They are like a "child" in that they are still in weak human form, but they are heirs who have conquered since they are now sealed. The Devil harasses them for 3 1/2 years of the tribulation, but the angels help them while in that figurative "wilderness" time. Revelation 13:5 is talking about the UN. "It was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and it was given authority to act for 42 months. And it opened its mouth in blasphemies against God to blaspheme his name and his dwelling place, even those residing in heaven. It was permitted to wage war with the holy ones and conquer them, and it was given authority over every tribe and people and tongue and nation." 42 months is 3 1/2 years. Daniel 8:14 in context shows how the initial part of the persecution leads to a refining of God's organization. "And I heard a holy one speaking, and another holy one said to the one speaking: “How long will the vision of the constant feature and of the transgression causing desolation continue, to make both the holy place and the army things to trample on?” So he said to me: “Until 2,300 evenings and mornings; and the holy place will certainly be restored to its right condition.”" 2,300 evenings and mornings equals 1,150 evenings plus 1,150 mornings. That is the same as 1,150 days. (1 evening plus 1 morning equals 1 day.) By 1,150 days after the great tribulation starts, the organization will have been refined. Revelation 12:6 context, after anointed are all sealed the kingdom is "born" but since anointed still on earth they are weak like child. Angels protect them (child figuratively "snatched away to God and to his throne") but kid still in wilderness with woman (still in this world, angels helping.) "And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod. And her child was snatched away to God and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days." A specific event happens at the 1,260th day from the beginning of the great tribulation. Daniel 12:11 another event happens at the 1,290th day from the start of the great tribulation: "And from the time that the constant feature has been removed and the disgusting thing that causes desolation has been put in place, there will be 1,290 days." Daniel 12:12 another event happens at the 1,335th day from the start of the great tribulation: "Happy is the one who keeps in expectation and who arrives at the 1,335 days!" Conclusion: The great tribulation will be 3 1/2 years long. There will be several noteworthy events at specific times during that period. "...there is a God in the heavens who is a Revealer of secrets...the Revealer of secrets has made known to you what is to happen." Praise Jehovah.
  2. The context of Revelation chapter 11 is after the anointed are sealed (hence the measuring) but still on earth. "And a reed like a rod was given to me as he said: “Get up and measure the temple sanctuary of God and the altar and those worshipping in it." After the UN becomes the world power, they will trample Jehovah's organization on earth for 42 months. "But as for the courtyard that is outside the temple sanctuary, leave it out and do not measure it, because it has been given to the nations, and they will trample the holy city underfoot for 42 months." Zechariah depicts the "two anointed ones" as standing beside Jesus. The transfiguration vision pictures Jesus standing beside "two witnesses" Elijah and Moses. When Jesus takes the throne just before the start of the great tribulation, all the anointed are sealed. He said "I will be with you all the days." Jesus also said "I will give you words and wisdom that all your opposers together will not be able to resist or dispute." The anointed remnant are close to Jesus and he gives them the words to speak. They are the two witnesses. "I will cause my two witnesses to prophesy for 1,260 days dressed in sackcloth. These are symbolized by the two olive trees and the two lampstands and are standing before the Lord of the earth.If anyone wants to harm them, fire comes out of their mouths and consumes their enemies. If anyone should want to harm them, this is how he must be killed. These have the authority to shut up the sky so that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have authority over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every sort of plague as often as they wish." The message of judgment against this system of things will be like a plague to those who don't love Jehovah's sovereignty. "When they have finished their witnessing, the wild beast that ascends out of the abyss will wage war with them and conquer them and kill them. And their corpses will be on the main street of the great city that is in a spiritual sense called Sodʹom and Egypt, where their Lord was also executed on the stake." The United Nations will put an end to the preaching of the anointed remnant. The "great city" is Babylon the Great. Although the institutions of religion (buildings and leaders) will have been destroyed by this point, the worshippers of false religion will still be alive. People will also still be worshipping other kinds of "idols" like governments or lifestyles or philosophies. Jesus was executed by members of false religion who worshipped government and "idols" (the Pharisees and scribes worshipped themselves and philosophy and money and fame). In a spiritual sense, those Pharisees and scribes and the Romans were part of Babylon the Great, which in a spiritual sense is also like Sodom and Egypt in being spiritually immoral and idolatrous. "And those of the peoples and tribes and tongues and nations will look at their corpses for three and a half days, and they do not allow their corpses to be laid in a tomb. And those dwelling on the earth rejoice over them and celebrate, and they will send gifts to one another, because these two prophets tormented those dwelling on the earth. After the three and a half days, spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood on their feet, and great fear fell upon those who saw them. And they heard a loud voice from heaven say to them: “Come up here.” And they went up into heaven in the cloud, and their enemies saw them. In that hour there was a great earthquake, and a tenth of the city fell; and 7,000 persons were killed by the earthquake, and the rest became frightened and gave glory to the God of heaven." Some of the "peoples and tribes and tongues and nations" become part of the great crowd. (None of the dead anointed are in heaven yet. Paul wrote that they all go at the same time.) When they see the anointed resurrected and raised to heaven, just like how Jesus was seen on earth after his resurrection and people saw him go up to heaven, there will be a figurative "7,000" who join true worshippers. (Reminiscent of the "there are 7,000 who haven't bent a knee to Baal".) "The second woe is past. Look! The third woe is coming quickly. The seventh angel blew his trumpet. And there were loud voices in heaven, saying: “The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and of his Christ, and he will rule as king forever and ever.” And the 24 elders who were seated before God on their thrones fell upon their faces and worshipped God, saying: “We thank you, Jehovah God, the Almighty, the one who is and who was, because you have taken your great power and begun ruling as king." When the anointed are all raised to heaven, then the kingdom is in place. "But the nations became wrathful, and your own wrath came, and the appointed time came for the dead to be judged and to reward your slaves the prophets and the holy ones and those fearing your name, the small and the great, and to bring to ruin those ruining the earth.” And the temple sanctuary of God in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen in his temple sanctuary. And there were flashes of lightning and voices and thunders and an earthquake and a great hail." The "dead" to be judged are the spiritually dead. Those aware of their spiritual need, even those who just lately learned about Jehovah, (as in "we will go with you for we have heard Jehovah is with you people") will be rewarded. "Then a great sign was seen in heaven: A woman was arrayed with the sun, and the moon was beneath her feet, and on her head was a crown of 12 stars, and she was pregnant. And she was crying out in her pains and in her agony to give birth." Again, another vision, different viewpoint of the same thing; the birth of the kingdom. The woman is God's "wife", the faithful angels in heaven. Paul said "Jerusalem above is our mother." (The kingdom was not born in 1914. It was not born until all the anointed were sealed.) "Another sign was seen in heaven. Look! A great fiery-colored dragon, with seven heads and ten horns and on its heads seven diadems; and its tail drags a third of the stars of heaven, and it hurled them down to the earth." Satan was not cast out of heaven in 1914 either. He is not cast out until Jesus takes the throne, which isn't until after all the anointed are sealed. "And the dragon kept standing before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she did give birth, it might devour her child. And she gave birth to a son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod." The "son" here is the entire 144,000. This son is "born" when all the anointed are sealed. (They were not all sealed in 1914.) "And her child was snatched away to God and to his throne. And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she has a place prepared by God and where they would feed her for 1,260 days." Though still on earth, the sealed anointed ones are under Jehovah's care. The Devil wants to destroy them, but Jehovah takes the kingdom heirs under his authority and protection. Just like Jesus said "I am with you all the days", so the angels are also with us all the days. They are with us "in the wilderness" of this system. That is why Jesus wrote the message of Revelation "to the angels of the congregations." The angels will not leave the faithful ones. "She is our mother." There is no way the angels are abandoning their "children"! The 1260 days are the length of the great tribulation. "And war broke out in heaven: Miʹcha·el and his angels battled with the dragon, and the dragon and its angels battled but they did not prevail, nor was a place found for them any longer in heaven. So down the great dragon was hurled, the original serpent, the one called Devil and Satan, who is misleading the entire inhabited earth; he was hurled down to the earth, and his angels were hurled down with him. I heard a loud voice in heaven say: “Now have come to pass the salvation and the power and the Kingdom of our God and the authority of his Christ, because the accuser of our brothers has been hurled down, who accuses them day and night before our God! And they conquered him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their witnessing, and they did not love their souls even in the face of death. On this account be glad, you heavens and you who reside in them! Woe for the earth and for the sea, because the Devil has come down to you, having great anger, knowing that he has a short period of time.”" The anointed remnant "conquered" Satan by their witnessing, that is why they are now sealed and why the Devil has been proved a loser and is not cast out. He was not cast out in 1914 because the anointed had not yet been sealed, they had not finished that part of their witnessing. (If he had been cast out in 1914, then the scripture wouldn't have said "a short period of time" because from 1914 to present isn't a short period of time. The scriptures show that from the time Satan is cast out, it will be only 3 1/2 years, which IS a short period of time.) "Now when the dragon saw that it had been hurled down to the earth, it persecuted the woman who gave birth to the male child. But the two wings of the great eagle were given to the woman, so that she might fly into the wilderness to her place, where she is to be fed for a time and times and half a time away from the face of the serpent." Again, the 3 1/2 years, the angels (the "woman") will feel horrible about the way Jehovah's worshippers on earth are getting treated during the great tribulation. But the faithful ones will be protected during the tribulation, which is like being in the "wilderness" (like how Jehovah protected the Israelites in the wilderness all those years, and how Elijah was fed in the wilderness and Jesus.) "And the serpent spewed out water like a river from its mouth after the woman, to cause her to be drowned by the river. But the earth came to the woman’s help, and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed up the river that the dragon spewed out from its mouth. So the dragon became enraged at the woman and went off to wage war with the remaining ones of her offspring, who observe the commandments of God and have the work of bearing witness concerning Jesus." Other parts of Revelation show that John was given a little scroll and told to prophesy again to nations. There will still be preaching to do in the great tribulation. The numbers 3 1/2 and 42 months and 1260 days are repeated because it is clear. The time period is clear. You don't have to do fancy calculations. Any kid can figure it out. The great tribulation will be 3 1/2 years. Jehovah hides it from "wise and intellectual" ones and reveals it to kids. Jehovah uses lowly ones to relay messages. Let Jehovah be praised, He is the Source of all wisdom and understanding and glory and might. Praise Jehovah!
  3. This topic is open to helpful comments and unhelpful insults too I was doing a bit of Bible reading the other day from the book known as Revelation, and reading chapter 12 i was having thoughts and meditation. Rev 12 : 6, mentions the woman going off into the wilderness for 1260 days. REv 12 : 14, mentions the woman being nurished in the wilderness for a time and times and half a time. This = 3½ times. so we divide 1260 days by 3½ which givs us, 360 days. Now that is equal to a 'Prophetic Year' It seems, and i didn't know this before, that prophicy is based on a 360 day year. It also seems that Moses used a 360 day calender. The Egyptions and possibly the Romans used 360 day calenders too. And of course Moses was educated by the Egyptions. So I related this 3½ times from Rev 12 : 14, as being 3½ years. Then I though, Jesus' ministry was also 3½ years long. Now I'm wondering exactly what calender the apostles used. Was it a 360 day calender ? I have a feeling all this relates to Daniel somehow but I haven't yet started to delve into it. Any thoughts on this would be welcome.
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