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"Hell-Fire does not exist" - Pope Francis
The Librarian posted a topic in Topics"The Holy Father is aware of the findings of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, which he takes seriously". The pope was interviewed byÂ Eugenio Scalfari, a veteran Italian journalist and atheist who regularly muses about faith and religion, and enjoys access to the leader of the Catholic Church. "Reconciliation is not just between government and Indigenous Peoples, it's between non-Indigenous Canadians and Indigenous Peoples as well", TrudeauÂ said. Pope FrancisÂ will not apologize to survivors ofÂ Canada'sÂ IndianÂ residential schoolsfor the role the Roman Catholic church played in operating the institutions or the abuses suffered there. Controversy surrounded the Vatican and Pope Francis after an interview was released in which the Pope allegedly claimed there was no hell and people who die without knowing Christ simply "disappear". During his private audience, Trudeau encouraged the pontiff to consider making a formal apology to residential school survivors and their families in the spirit of reconciliation. A papal apology was one of the 94Â recommendationsÂ from aÂ Truth and Reconciliation Commission in Canada, and the prime minister, Justin Trudeau, had also asked the pope to apologize during a visit to the Vatican previous year. But, on Tuesday, it was officially denied. Instead, he wrote, the Pope encouraged the bishops "to continue to engage in an extensive pastoral work of reconciliation, healing and solidarity with the Indigenous peoples". On Thursday the Holy See stated that a reported interview between Pope Francis and an Italian journalist, which claims the Pope denied the existence of hell, should not be considered an accurate depiction of Francis' words, but the author's own "reconstruction". Certain heretical offshoots of Christianity, like Jehovah's Witnesses, Christadelphians and Seventh Day Adventists adhere to the Annihilation of Souls theology, but Catholics, the Orthodox Church and most Protestant denominations reject the idea. The commission recommended an apology similar to that offered by the Pope to Irish victims of sexual abuse in 2010. Sen. Murray Sinclair, the former head of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission, said a lack of apology could interfere with the healing process. "It was like a driver of a vehicle indicating that he was sorry that somebody had been injured", he said, "but not taking responsibility for the fact that he was driving the auto that had injured" the person. Trudeau has "done what was asked of him", Sinclair told HuffPost Canada on Wednesday, adding he doesn't expect the prime minister to ask the Pope to reconsider. Bishop Mark Hagemoen's comments come on the heels of the president of the Canadian Conference of Catholic Bishops putting out a letterÂ statingÂ Pope Francis can't issue an apology for residential schools. "Before you can really heal, people have to acknowledge the truth in what happened". Nearly two-thirds of the 130 schools were run by the Catholic Church. http://nottinghamobserver.com/2018/03/30/hell-fire-does-not-exist-pope-francis.html
Hellfire and Armageddon, both symbolic?
Witness posted a topic in Jehovah’s Witnesses's TopicsWt 02/7/15 – “Could it be that the fire of hell is symbolic of all-consuming, or thorough, destruction? Separating fire from Hades, or hell, the Scriptures say: “Death and Hades were hurled into the lake of fire.” “The lake” mentioned here is symbolic, since death and hell (Hades) that are thrown into it cannot literally be burned. “This [lake of fire] means the second death” —death from which there is no hope of coming back to life. —Revelation 20:14. Wt. 08/11/1 pp. 8,9 THOSE who teach that hell is a place of torment promote a gross misrepresentation of Jehovah God and his qualities. Granted, the Bible does say that God will destroy the wicked. (2 Thessalonians 1:6-9) But righteous anger is not God’s dominant quality. (Actually, the "destroyer" is Satan Isa 33:1; 1 Cor 10:9,10; Heb 11:28) God is not malicious or vindictive. He even asks: “Have I any pleasure at all that the wicked should die?” (Ezekiel 18:23, King James Version) If God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked, how could he for all eternity delight in watching these ones being tormented? What about Armageddon? The Wt. continually depicts great slaughter, convincing JWs that it will be a time of torment with mutilated bodies everywhere. Anthony Morris willingly gives his colorful interpretation of the carnage resulting from the war’s aftermath. YET, did you catch this, JWs? wp17 No. 6 p. 16 wp17 No. 6 p. 16 Armageddon is the symbolic place of “the war of the great day of God the Almighty,” his war against the wicked. —Revelation 16:14, 16. If hell is symbolic with no literal “fire”, should the Watchtower show such glaring pictorial atrocities of Armageddon, or stick with the little-known fact that they present you above? Who is playing games with your mind? "At the root of this battle of Armageddon, is the struggle to win over the hearts of men, and what it is that they put their faith in and worship. Each side of this battle, has it's own overlord and King. It is what proceeds from the mouth of each of these King of kings, that fuels this decisive battle. (Matt.4:8,9; 1John5:19; Rev.9:11) (Rev.19:16; 5:10; 1:5) From the mouth of Satan (and those belonging to his "woman" -Rev.17:5), comes deception, spiritual darkness, false doctrines, and death (Rev.16:13,14; 12:17,15). From the mouth of Christ (and those belonging to his "woman" -Gal.4:26; Rev.22:17), comes insight, spiritual light, truth, and life (Rev.1:15 B; John4:14; Rev.1:16 B; Rev.19:13,21,15 A; Heb.4:12). According to scripture, Armageddon is a battle between truth and lies, and the sources (fathers) and messengers ("angels"/"seed"), of each side (John8:44,45; 1:9,14; Eph.5:9; 6:12; 1Pet.2:9; 1Thess.5:5; 2Cor.11:13,14,15) (Rev.12:17; 2Cor.10:4,5; John18:37; Mark1:38; Rev12:7; Gen.3:15). Nowhere in the Bible, is the interpretation of Armageddon described as a literal execution, instigated by God and carried out by the political governments of Satan's world by material warfare, as so many have assumed. The Bible simply describes it as a battle that results from "demon inspired sayings" coming from the mouth of Satan and his messengers, and the resulting backlash of truth by means of Christ and his messengers. (Rev.16:13,14,16; 13:11,4,6; 2Thess.2:4,9,10)(Rev.2:12,16; Rev.17:14; 19:11,15,14,19,20,21; Gal.5:17; Rom.8:5,6,7,8,13). Pearl Doxsey 4womaninthewilderness