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  1. In view of last weeks WT study "Do you have the facts" (August 2018, page 3) and thanks to @Gone Away for highlighting the following reports, I thought I would put this in a separate and concise topic to show an actual and recent example of misinformation. NEWS REPORT: (I cut it a little short because the article went on about the ban in general. You van read the whole thing here: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/five-jehovah-s-witnesses-detained-in-russia-investigators-10812938) MOSCOW: Five Jehovah's Witnesses have been detained in Russia and charged with possessing weapons and running an extremist group, investigators said Wednesday (Oct 10, 2018), in the latest case targeting the banned religious movement. They were arrested in the Kirov region northeast of Moscow, where authorities said they found two grenades and a landmine in searches of their homes. The Jehovah's Witnesses are a Christian denomination that originated in the United States in the late 19th century. The Russian authorities consider the movement a totalitarian sect and last year the country's supreme court banned the Jehovah's Witnesses from operating in Russia. "They had been conducting meetings and called on others to join their organisation," Yevgenia Vorozhtsova, a spokeswoman for regional investigators, said. She said officials were investigating how the members of the Jehovah's Witnesses had obtained the ammunition, but declined to provide further details. Yaroslav Sivulskiy, a member of the European Association of Jehovah's Christian Witnesses, said it was the first time the Russian authorities had accused members of the movement of possessing ammunition. "We were shocked," he said from the Latvian capital Riga. "It is both funny and strange. Why mines?" One of those detained was a Polish national residing in Russia, he said. THE FACTS: (here I took the liberty of slightly adjusting the translation by Google, so it made more sense) On October 9, 2018, in the city of Kirov, during a search of the house of retired Vladimir Bogomolov, a collector of artifacts from the Great Patriotic War (1941-1945), investigators seized fragments of obviously unusable rusty shells. The man was searched because his 69-year-old spouse (the only one of her entire family) professes the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses. The woman does not share her husband's fascination with antiques. Thus, the report that the ammunition was seized allegedly from Jehovah's Witnesses is not true. Jehovah's Witnesses do not take weapons for conscience reasons. For this position they appeared before tribunals of different countries and went to concentration camps. They will be grateful to the media for clarifying the misunderstanding . Vladimir Bogomolov, from whom the relics were confiscated, was in the past an active participant in a search movement (aimed at burying the remains of the soldiers who died in World War II), he was the brigadier of the search party. The activities of his squad were written about in newspapers. On October 9, 2018, upon the discovery of the artifacts, a criminal case on the illegal possession of weapons was instituted, it was allocated in a separate proceeding. The items were sent for examination. Source: https://jw-russia.org/news
  2. (New news ....) A MONTANA Judge Orders Jehovah’s Witnesses to Turn Over Internal Documents Related to Childhood Sexual Abuse April 12, 2018 On April 5, 2018, Judge James Manley of Sanders County, Montana ordered the Jehovah’s Witnesses religious organization to produce documents and testimony related to internal reports and investigations into the childhood sexual abuse of NPR’s two clients. In this case, the two Plaintiffs were sexually abused as children by a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. The Elders in the local Jehovah’s Witness congregation in Thompson Falls, Montana were aware of the abuse and failed to report it to the police, choosing instead to handle the reports and investigations internally pursuant to Jehovah’s Witness guidelines. Their decision not to report the abuse to authorities allowed the perpetrator to remain in the congregation and continue to abuse one of the Plaintiffs. Throughout this case, and similar childhood sexual abuse cases across the country, the Jehovah’s Witnesses have refused to produce documents related to their internal handling of reports of sexual abuse and related investigations and disciplinary actions claiming that the information is protected by the clergy-penitent privilege and the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Through briefing to the court, NPR convinced the Judge that Defendants’ privilege claims were unsupported and improper under the law. The Court agreed that Defendants could not blanket everything related to their investigations in secrecy and that they must turn it over to the Plaintiffs. Often, this is the very evidence that can win or lose a case like this against a religious institution. The case of Nunez, et al. v. Watchtower Bible & Tract Society of New York, et al. is set to go to trial in September of 2018. The plaintiffs in this case are represented by NPR partner D. Neil Smith and associate Ross E. Leonoudakis. ---------------------------------------------------------- A Jury of 12 held in public view ... or a tribunal of three held in complete secrecy. Which would YOU choose, to get Justice?
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  4. Part of a series on: We didn't capitalize the "w" until the 1970's except in a title or a quotation from someone who didn't know the "rule." At the Bethel Library when it was at 124 Columbia Heights (before it moved to 25 and then Patterson) there was about 20 feet of shelf space dedicated to Jw court cases, and even on the outside cover you would see titles like "Supreme Court Cases of Jehovah's witnesses" and the outer spine of the cover would have it abbreviated as "Jw's" or "J.w.'s." Although my day-to-day assignment at Bethel was to do artwork, I sometimes helped out the proofreaders and it turned out that the year I came to Bethel was the same year we made the change from J.w.'s to J.W.'s. Some of the writers weren't used to it yet, and there were also translation issues. There was a legal reason behind the change, too. If you check the Watchtower Library CD, you'll see that the change happened between the printing of the March 15 and April 1 issues of The Watchtower in 1976. (And between the March 8 and the March 22, 1976 Awake!) The lower case "w" rarely shows up any more unless a new publication is directly quoting an older publication in a place that has it, and even then we will sometimes go ahead and capitalize it in the quotation. For those who find such trivia interesting, here is a reference from that time period. Note the only exception to the rule in the following 6 examples: *** g76 3/8 pp. 21-22 A Conspiracy Thwarted in “the Land Down Under” *** He had written on behalf of the Methodist people of his district, who had . . . supported a Tasmanian government request . . . that Jehovah’s witnesses be declared illegal. . . . Another Australian clergyman, objecting to the zealous public preaching of Jehovah’s witnesses, wrote to Mr. W. M. Hughes, then Attorney-General of Australia: “The sect calling themselves Jehovah’s Witnesses are a distinctly disloyal lot of people and in my estimation ought to be declared as such.” These letters from clergymen did not contain any evidence of subversive or illegal acts on the part of Jehovah’s witnesses. . . ." The Commonwealth Archives show that the Attorney-General had been pressured also by the Catholic clergy to suppress freedom of religion enjoyed by Jehovah’s witnesses. However, in a direct reply to the then Catholic archbishop of Sydney, N. T. Gilroy (later elevated to be a cardinal), the Attorney-General confirmed that the government had no legal grounds to restrain the Christian activity of Jehovah’s witnesses. *** end of quote *** via @JW Insider Link
  5. Today Presidents Trump and Putin meet for summit, and the New York Times tells of an exiled Jehovah's Witness who proposes Trump ask Putin a simple question: "Why are Russians who pay their taxes, follow the law and embrace the Christian values promoted by the Kremlin being forced to flee their country?" https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/16/world/europe/putin-trump-russia-jehovahs-witness.html A simple [and single] question. To propose that Trump do this is exactly the non-confrontational style of Jehovah's Witnesses, and is proof in itself that they are not extremist. Moreover, because the goal is so modest, it is not impossible that it could happen. Persecution of Jehovah's Witnesses in Russia is not everywhere, but where it is, it is draconian, with police dressed in riot gear breaking down doors to arrest them. Meanwhile (and irrelevant), I did a google search of "New York Times Jehovah's Witnesses." The second hit is an article from 1958, telling of (I think) the largest Christian assembly in history. Remember, Google is personalized. Your results may vary. http://www.tomsheepandgoats.com/2018/07/ill-take-it-fake-news-or-not.html
  6. Which Pill Would We Take ..... The Red Pill? .... or the Blue Pill? In the political world, more and more people are rejecting "Fake News" as provided by CNN (Clinton News Network), ABC (All 'bout Clinton) and NBC (Nothin' but Clinton), etc., and are seeking the truth about what they are being told ..... wherever it may be found. Today John Stossel had an article about this on Foxnews which is incredibly important ... not only for the political ramifications ... but every manner of philosophical thought .... and our very view of how the Universe works, and what "makes it tick". If you have seen the movie "The Matrix" .... a MUST SEE movie .... you already know the common expression "Red Pill? Blue Pill?". If you don't ... YOU SHOULD. The concept behind the expression is incredibly important ... as to whether we live in and artificial fantasy construct world ... or a world of what is actually REAL. JOHN STOSSEL: More people tuning out mainstream media, embracing 'truth' http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2018/03/27/john-stossel-why-so-many-are-taking-red-pill-and-discovering-truth-about-mainstream-media.html Oh ... and if you have not seen it .... get a copy of the movie, so you will actually get a "feel" for the depth of the now commonly understood idiomatic expression. (For those in Rio Linda, that has nothing to do with sex, it has to do with basic understanding .....) Grok?
  7. The Jehovah’s Witnesses community in the Netherlands will not hold an independent inquiry into the sexual abuse of members, despite being urged to do so by justice minister Sander Dekker. By last month, 267 reports of sexual abuse involving Jehovah’s Witnesses had been made to a hotline set up by the Reclaimed Voices foundation in 2017 after Trouw published a report on the growing scandal. Dekker told RTL Nieuws on Tuesday that the organisation’s decision is ‘disappointing’ and that it is ignoring the victims who want to be heard. He has no powers to force the organisation to hold an inquiry. Read more: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-calls-for-independent-inquiry-into-sexual-abuse/
  8. Something I thought might be relevant since we are studying the God's Kingdom book. Not long ago, in a WT article, it was mentioned in reference to the "Kingdom being preached in all the inhabited earth" that this will not mean that literally everyone on Earth would have heard about the Kingdom before Armageddon starts. When one does a bit of mathematics (not my forte) and calculates the percentage of current Jehovah's Witnesses in comparison to the World's population we arrive at 0.1%. This is a very small percentage indeed. (8 million JW to 8 billion population) If we were to assume some averages, and use the United States as a fair example, then we can assume the ratio of 1 publisher to roughly around 400. This seems a fair number since "only a few are the ones finding the road to life". However, as we know, there is practically a non existent ratio when it comes to India and China, two of the world's countries with a population of over 1billion each (the majority of whom have never heard of the Bible, never mind Jehovah's Witnesses). If we would assume the same ratio of 1:400, then this would immediately create over 3 million Witnesses in each of the two countries, i.e. over 6 million in India and China alone, bringing the total of JWs to over 14 million. If we were to also add 650 thousand in Indonesia, 485 thousand from Pakistan, and 402 thousand from Bangladesh that adds another 1.5 million bringing the total to over 15 million, almost doubling the Witnesses today. If we go by the fact that all people are equal in Jehovah's eyes, and that no nation is above another when it comes to salvation, and that all people are basically the same, then we have to assume that there are people in those countries who, if given the chance, would embrace the truth and put themselves on Jehovah's side and create that ratio of 1:400. With that in mind, it is evident that either there is going to have to be a lot of preaching done, verging on the miraculous, in order to bring in over 7 million new Witnesses within the allotted time of the "Generation", or, Jehovah will judge their hearts and allow nearly HALF of the people, (agnostics or believers in false Gods) entry into the new world without them even needing to know him. Or, is "this Generation" a lot longer than we think..... Any scriptural thoughts?
  9. As you read this.... remember PERCEPTION is 90% of everything. Sometimes it even trumps the truth itself for centuries. It is that important. I suspect we should consider that most businesses no longer require suits (business casual and clean is now ok for most jobs) I try to not bring my electronic devices to my business meetings. It sends the wrong message I think. What is wrong with the Bible and songbook (actual books)? Let's also consider what a Kingdom Hall full of Mercedes and Audis appears like to the public. I remember how I felt as a regular pioneer showing up in California one day at a KH with all their expensive cars. WRONG MESSAGE!!! Remember what Jesus said about the RICH? Just some random thoughts when I saw this on Facebook. Any ideas? View the full article
  10. FSB starts detaining Jehovah’s Witnesses on Kola, dozens flee to Finland Criminal cases are initiated after FSB and Rosgvardia raided six addresses in the closed navy town of Polyarny. By Thomas Nilsen - The Independent Barents Observer April 20, 2018 Last April, a ruling by Russia’s Supreme Court banned all Jehovah’s Witnesses organizations throughout the country, arguing the religious group to be extremist. On Friday, Murmansk regional authorities’ newspaper Murmanski Vestnik reports about raids made by FSB and the National Guard of Russia (Rosgvardia) in Polyarny on the Kola Peninsula. Two local residents were detained under suspicions of being members of the administrative centre of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia, organizing teaching and meetings where reading of banned religious literature took place. Searches were carried out at six addresses in Polyarny. The town is home to a naval yard and several of the diesel-powered submarines and other warships of the Northern Fleet have Polyarny as homeport. The extremist law banning Jehovah’s Witnesses in Russia provides for a maximum sentences of 6 to 10 years in jail. Meanwhile, a wave of practicing Jehovah’s Witnesses are fleeing Russia. More than a thousand people are now seeking asylum in several European countries, including Finland, the newspaper Helsingin Sanomat reported earlier this winter. It all started last summer, and that’s when the first Witnesses sought asylum in Finland, spokesperson Veikko Leininen with the organization’s Finnish branch told the newspaper. Many dozens at least are still to come, he said. Press adviser Therese Bergwitz-Larsen with the Norwegian Directorate of Immigration (UDI) can’t go into details about particular reasons for asylum seekers coming to Norway. Unfortunately, we can’t say anything in general on the background for reasons to apply for asylum, since the number [from Russia] is so small, Bergwitz-Larsen tells the Barents Observer. Statistics from UDI show that 15 persons came from Russia the first three months this year. In 2017, 58 Russian asylum seekers came to Norway. In Russia, the number of Jehovah’s Witnesses are estimated to about 175,000. That be, before the organization was declared extremist. Viewed with skepticism for denying military service, voting and refusal to take blood, the members are seen as both a threat to themselves, their children and public safety. Also during Soviet times, the Witnesses were persecuted. Human Right Watch recently called on Russian authorities to drop charges against Danish citizen Dennis Christensen adherent for practicing his faith. Christensen has been in pretrial custody for 11 months in the town of Orel. Human Right Watch argues that Russia is a member of Council of Europe and a party to the European Convention on Human Rights, and therefore is obligated to protect the rights to freedom of religion and association. My note: Russia passed a law in 2015 that basically stated that any CE or ECHR resolution or ruling they disagreed with could be ignored. I think it is a very good idea when governments start rounding up people for gas chambers, concentration or slave labor camps, or prison ... just be somewhere else. You may have to abandon everything you and your family ever worked for, with the clothes on your back, but at least when they upholster the living room furniture you left behind ... it won't be with YOUR SKIN.
  11. Helene Gotthold, a Jehovah's Witness, was beheaded for her religious beliefs on December 8, 1944, in Berlin. She is pictured with her children. Germany, June 25, 1936. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/jehovahs-witness-helene-gotthold
  12. I really didn't know whether to laugh, cry or throw my hands up in despair when we discussed this at last night's meeting. The answers that were given during these paragraphs and the response of the study conductor really showed to me how, as a general rule, we are such a non-thinking and illogical group of people. 5 As we saw in Chapter 2 of this book, the Bible Students spent decades pointing out that the year 1914 would be significant in fulfilling Bible prophecy. However, at that time they believed that Christ’s presence had begun in 1874, that he had begun to rule in heaven in 1878, and that the Kingdom would not be fully set up until October 1914. The harvest would extend from 1874 to 1914 and would culminate in the gathering of the anointed to heaven. Do mistaken ideas such as these cast doubt on whether Jesus was guiding those faithful ones by means of holy spirit? 6 Not at all! Think again of our opening illustration. Would the premature ideas and eager questions of the tourists cast doubt on the reliability of their guide? Hardly! Similarly, although God’s people sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide them to such truths, it is clear that Jesus is leading them. Thus, faithful ones prove willing to be corrected and humbly adjust their views. It is also upsetting that the governing body, in instances like this, always speak in the third person. How much more humble would it be for them to say ; "Similarly, although we, the faithful and discreet slave sometimes try to work out details of Jehovah’s purpose before it is time for the holy spirit to guide us to such truths..." Any comments ?
  13. After this I beheld, and lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and to the Lamb! (Rev. 7: 9-10) . Today, on the ground there are thousands of religions that have made billions of people slaves of their religious teachers. Even atheism is as much a religion as everyone else, just atheists do not believe in the Creator, and the existence of a certain matter, which is magically formed our very complex and surprisingly organized universe, including living organisms and humans. The slavery that exists on our planet thousands of years, is in the most bizarre forms, and at first glance it seems freedom. But who, in reality from the people in the world, rich or poor, smart and silly, important and simple free from the bondage of sickness and death? In the world there is no free people! There are only slaves, because the people is not available, and dependent creature creator. Just a few know about it, and most of the other does not know about it until the time comes to get sick and die! When people do not know their future, they are easily fooled.Therefore, Jehovah's Witnesses religious teachers deceive the flock, saying that "great crowd" of Revelation 7: 9, are members of their religion. who survived a bloody Armageddon. But can there be such slaves to religion, were free from death? Of course, it can not be! That is why the leaders of the people and their leaders, including religious and trying to convince people the idea that they can be free, including from disease and death. Of course, God is well aware of this, so he ordered to be written in His Word - the Bible, about who are the religious leaders of all religions existing on earth, and especially such a religion, as Jehovah's Witnesses: 17 These are waterless springs, and mists driven by a storm: they prepared the gloom of eternal darkness. 18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure in the lusts of the flesh and much wantonness, those who are just escaping from being misled. 19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are slaves of corruption; For if a man who is defeated, he brought in bondage. (2 Peter 2: 17-19) Is it not a very exact words with which religious teachers of Jehovah's Witnesses are described as "wells without water", ie have no life, "cloud", which quickly appear and disappear quickly, because their speech is "great swelling words of vanity," with by which they deceive their religious lie even those "who barely, that is quite a few, have lagged behind in error a variety of false doctrines, such as atheism with his theory of evolution, without any evidence, and such as Christianity, with its one God from three heads, each of which then by itself, then acts together. Therefore, the apostle Peter writes about the right of all religious leaders, and in particular, the leaders of Jehovah's Witnesses, they "promise their followers the freedom" are themselves being slaves of corruption, that is, diseases and death !. And then the apostle writes about the sad fate of the religious leaders, who seem to have rejected the deceitfulness of the godless world, and seems to have acquired a knowledge of Jesus Christ, but again and again, like dogs srygnuvshie food, keep returning to eat that vomit them previously. That's why these people are completely in vain learned about Yehovahe - the God of Israel and sent them to the people of renegade Jesus Christ. 20 For if they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the first. 21 It would be better to them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after knowing it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them. 22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog returns to its vomit, and: washed pig [is] wallow in the mud. (2 Peter 2: 20-22) And why slaves freedom, if they see the happiness of the people in bondage? So today in bondage to the American Watchtower Society held in slavery around 20 million people, with 8.5 million of them, so to speak, active slaves who show diligence in the execution of the will of their religious teachers of the Governing Body. Teachers of the Christian sect, as well as other Christian faiths, seduce his students that promise to release them in the near future and from diseases and poverty, and on crime and violence, and even death, the promise of eternal life in paradise on the ground. But as you know, none of the promise of these religious teachers, as well as all others, no one will. Just because they are in bondage to death. They are her slaves, despite the fact that they are trying to present the case so that they are holy and righteous before God. In fact, there is none of the people living on earth today, neither holiness nor righteousness before Yehovahom - the God of Israel. There are just silly religious fantasies, in which some people naively believe! Freedom from disease and death of the people can only give the Creator - Yehovah. So he gives to those who are worthy of the people, by virtue of its divine or holy spirit to adopt them as his adopted children. 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God. 15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage, [to] again [to live] in fear, but you received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, "Abba, Father!" 16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit that we are - children of God. 17 And if children, then heirs, heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him, to his glory. 18 For I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory which shall be revealed in us. (Romans 8: 14-18) That is why stupid to become a disciple of any particular religion, but should only become a disciple of the sole mediator in the adoption, by the power of Yehovaha, a man named Yehoshua Anointed One, or as it was called Greeks, Christ Jesus. Only the teaching of Jesus Christ, which bears no relation to Christianity or any other religion, is able to free man from the slavery of human teachings, and hence from the slavery of death! And what is happening in religions? And in the religions, all religious teachers - leaders of these religions, prevent, so you can be free to follow Jesus Christ, repeating his steps, making adherents to live the commandments, the long-dead law of Moses, and they invented rules. Therefore, even taking the atoning sacrifice of Jesus Christ, a person staying in one religion or another again loses this freedom, and returned as the "dog to his vomit", following the instructions and tips are not the Christ, and their religious leaders. For example, in the religion of Jehovah's Witnesses, religious teachers force their students to live according to the precepts of the Mosaic Law, requiring them to knock each other elders of the congregation, prohibit blood transfusions, forbidding to marry with someone who is not in the religion, are forced to proselytize - in proselytizing, and other nonsense, which have no relation to faith in Christ as their only teacher and mediator. This is why the disciples of the American Society of watchtower flies not freedom in Christ, and only the yoke of slavery! 1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty by which Christ has made us, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage. 2 Behold, I Paul say unto you, if ye be circumcised, will not do you any good from Christ. 3 For I testify again to every man that is circumcised, that he should do the whole law. 4 You are justified by the Law of Moses, were without Christ, they have fallen from grace. 5 For we through the Spirit wait for the hope of righteousness by faith. 6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision, but faith working through love. (Gal 5: 1-6) The Gospel of Luke tells us that after his baptism in the Jordan, Jesus Christ forever leave his collection to the city of Nazareth, where he taught from the age of 12 the Pharisees and scribes of the Jewish religious system of worship Yehovahu - the God of Israel. Therefore, today, those who really got the spirit Yehovaha rather than imitates this event, pretending to be a party to the New Testament, as a guarantee of its adoption, become his anointed, that is Christ, and forever leave their religion. Well, why do they promise which the people if he Yehovah gave them the spirit of their adoption? 21 establishes us with you in Christ and anointed us [there is] God, 22 who also sealed us, and given the earnest of the Spirit in our hearts. (2 Corinthians 1: 21.22) As is well understood by those who read the Bible carefully, rather than across the page, with tea and scones, God is going to raise a limited number of anointed ones, that is, people who have, so to speak, on his brow seal Yehovaha. The total amount of those of them who remain faithful until death, all of the first apostles of Christ is limited to 144000 of 12 conventional (the number of the Apostles) tribes of Israel. What this means for the rest of the people who have ever lived on the earth? This means that they "looked forward to the revelation of the sons Yehovaha who begin their reign as kings in heaven with Jesus Christ in his 1000 year kingdom. 18 For I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory which shall be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits with eager children of God, revelation, 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but by reason of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be liberated from the bondage of corruption into the glorious freedom of the children of God.22 For we know that the whole creation has been groaning in travail together until now; 23 And not only [it], but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting for adoption, the redemption of our body. 24 For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen is not hope; For if someone sees it and hope that it? (Romans 8: 18-24) Only in the end of the 1000-year reign of Jesus Christ, "the whole thing", that is, all creation Yehovaha can finally get rid of the bondage of disease, poverty, crime, death and old age. Here is how this painting the liberation of mankind from the bondage of the book of Revelation describes the prophet John. 9 After this (after 1000 years) I looked, and behold, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations and tribes and peoples and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and to the Lamb! (Rev. 7: 9.10) Thus, we see a great many are not Jehovah's Witnesses, and in general people do not consist of any one religion. They all praise Yehovaha - the God of Israel and Jesus Christ as their savior. Their white clothes makes it clear that they are far from any religious system that people have created on earth for thousands of years. But religious leaders are not satisfied. So they, like all children of the devil uses deception to deceive humanity and forced under threat of eternal torture, or threat of bloody Armageddon, to serve them, to be their slaves. Yehovah is a spirit; and where the spirit Yehovaha, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17
  14. The God delusion- are Jehovah's Witnesses the exception? Religion seems to be more divisive and destructive than any other belief system. Why does the belief in a superhuman power bear such "rotten fruit"? Each religion claims they are the one and only true religion. Is there such a thing as the only true Religion, and one that actually bears "good fruit"? Please watch the documentary below and feel free to share any observations you might have, or comment on the problem of religion and belief you have identified and/or the areas where Jehovah's Witnesses differ....etc. At the end of the video Dawkins asks imploringly, appealing to our sense of gratitude: “People sometimes say there must be more to this life....but how much more do you want”? I guess you can present that question to someone who was born in poverty and disease, and has no way out. Or you can ask someone who has been diagnosed with a fatal illness and has no way of getting better. Or you can ask someone who has lost loved ones who cannot be brought back. I am sure they would tell you they wished for more.....
  15. The February 2017 WT had this to say about the GB: Compare this to the November 2016 WT which had this to say about the GB's authority: The GB wants the unquestioned control and the credit for leading God's organization, but they also wants total freedom from accountability when they are wrong. The existence of the org is based around everyone accepting this premise. But how is this premise not 100% illogical and absurd? The GB is presenting itself in 2 completely conflicting ways: The GB is uninspired, fallible, and errs, so they should not be blamed for incorrect direction. The GB should not be questioned by JWs, and there is no place for independent thinking. The GB cannot state they make errors in their direction and simultaneously demand unquestioned obedience to their direction. That doesn't make any sense. If anything, JWs should be skeptical of the GB's directions because of their history of incorrect direction. However, critical thinking is discouraged as a negative trait in organization literature--even when that thinking is based on the Bible. If there is a God, then surely he is just, and I cannot imagine he would structure an organization on such an illogical premise. Think of how this premise negatively affects JWs. Adherents are essentially commanded to follow direction that may be 100% wrong. They are told to "wait on Jehovah" if they have doubts. This also means that a JW could be punished for having a correct idea that is currently not in harmony with the GB. I'm sure this has happened with JWs over its history. Also, isn't it disturbing that the GB have set things up so that they have maximum control and minimum accountability? It's the definition of plausible deniability. Everyone here is well aware of the legal issues with blood transfusion rejection and the sex abuse. In these legal matters, it is pretty clear that the organization is distancing themselves from any accountability and is instead placing the burden on the individual JW. This flies in the face of the culture of the religion where everything a JW does revolves around supporting the organization. There is no room for personal opinion. To suggest otherwise in legal cases is very dishonest and shady. Moreover, it goes against the idea that their is an equal relationship--we're supposed to die over organizational doctrines but the GB won't even acknowledge their role in court proceedings? The very fact the organization uses plausible deniability in their literature is highly suspect. The fact that they can force JWs to follow their direction, but when it's wrong they can point to a WT and say, "See! We said we were fallible and uninspired!" It all smells dishonest and shady.
  16. The Coming of the Name Jehovah's Witnesses by A.H. Macmillan who was a very notable brother in our history MacMillan AH - The Coming of the Name Jehovahs Witnesses.mp3 Agape! @The Librarian
  17. IRON RIVER, Mich. (WLUC) - Two years ago Mary Kurtz suffered from gastroesophageal reflux disease making daily activities unbearable. "I would wake up with terrible terrible pain in the chest area, it wasn’t a heart attack, I knew that, but it took my breath away," said Kurtz. Typically a surgeon could perform an open surgery by making a long incision in the abdomen to prevent acid reflux. However this wasn’t an option for Kurtz. "Being a witness, we abstain because in the Bible it tells us in Acts 15:20 to abstain from blood through digesting it or taking it in as a medical use and this is our belief," explained Kurtz. After consulting with non-witness and witness friends, Kurtz came across Dr. Fanous who could offer a TIF surgery where her esophagus could be worked on by entering through the mouth. "TIF or Transoral incisionless fundoplication where we use the device called the EsophyX HD device to go in, use the patient's tissues to construct the valve between the stomach and the esophagus," said Dr. Medhat Fanous. Currently Aspirus is the only program in the UP that provides this new option for surgery. Not only is it safe and durable but done as an outpatient procedure. "It was the best thing I’ve ever done," said Kurtz. "After two years, I have no pain I have no acid reflux, I can eat things that I never even thought about touching before." And Kurtz isn’t the only one who seen the benefits of the TIF procedure, in just under two years, Aspirus has helped more than 150 patients go through similar surgeries. "It’s a tight community and the word of mouth is very strong but the fact we’ve seen 150 procedures, it’s a testimony to the quality of our work," said Dr. Fanous. Recently Dr. Fanous published a study regarding the safety of the TIF with Jehovah witnesses and Kurtz couldn’t be more thankful for his work and consideration of her beliefs. "I am happy that Dr. Fanous went along with this, because it is a big thing for us." http://www.uppermichiganssource.com/content/news/Safe-and-durable-surgery-option-for-Jehovahs-Witnesses--469802073.html
  18. Here is a 14 year-old girl who sexted an explicit picture of herself to her boyfriend via Snapchat - and he spread it about widely. Guys will do things like that and girls should not be dumb. https://www.rt.com/usa/414031-aclu-girl-selfie-child-porn/ She is looking at 10 years felony jail time for violation of Minnesota's child-porn law. The ACLU spokesperson defending her says this is a "teachable moment" for parents to inform the girl that her actions have consequences. Tell me about it. It is also a "cautionary tale," the ACLU adds. Yes. It IS cautionary for a 14 year old trying to live in an insane world supplied her by adults that pushes powerful social media tools, a sexually promiscuous culture, and then ten years for making use of them. Only RT.com picks this story up (besides local media), probably in a quest to embarrass the West, but that is hard to do because the West routinely embarrasses itself yet feels no embarrassment. To the contrary, it parades around in its wisdom. Meanwhile – ‘wisdom from the mouth of babes’ – the girl says “Sexting is common among teens at my school, and we shouldn’t face charges for doing it. I don’t want anyone else to go through what I’m going through.” Of course. It is a no-brainer. It is not that what she did wasn’t wrong – it is that the entire adult world should be prosecuted ahead of her. That way, there will be no room left in jail for the child. In a greater context, the story highlights the absolute failure of the world to vanquish pedophilia, which it has declared public enemy #1 - with its frothing take-no-prisoners, pulling-their-hair out frustration over making no dent in the pandemic, and so wildly overswinging to compensate. It is the frenzied carpenter who misses the nail and then furiously hammers ten times more, again missing each time. This is how it is with zealots who see their cause and nothing else – and the world is full of such people. It mirrors the Arizona law of 2015 criminalizing contact with the private areas of any child under 15 REGARDLESS OF INTENT. Prosecutors did not back down even when it was pointed out that the law criminalizes parents changing diapers. No “sane or reasonable prosecutor” is going to misuse the law that way, they said. That is reassuring, but what about the insane and unreasonable ones? Will the law be repealed? Not easily. Just try repealing it and political enemies will scream you are being soft of pedophiles – no politician dares risk that. Meanwhile, Jehovah’s Witnesses, of all people, get caught in the cross-fire of pedophilia for doing what no other religion attempts to do. Where there are reports of wrongdoing in their midst, they investigate, so as to keep the congregation morally clean – an obligation they feel before God. There is the unfortunate by-product that their name is always attached to pedophiles within their ranks, something that happens nowhere else. No other faith dreams their members should actually apply Christian conduct in their lives. No other faith looks into such things – preach Sunday and be done with it - and thus rarely learn of them. Thus pedophiles, who appear to be every third person on the planet, especially when the statute of limitations is forever, and the 14-year old and folks changing diapers are included, are never ever identified with any religion (unless they are clergy), with but a single exception. The book I am almost finished with about Witness persecution in Russia will contain individual chapters on all charges made against Witnesses. ‘Pedophilia’ will be one of them, even though the subject did not arise there, strangely. It has arisen most everywhere else and it is only a matter of time there. The Russian embassy to the U.S. recently did mention the topic in a tweet, attempting to justify its ban – the first such mention I have ever seen, despite years of flinging dirt in that country to see what will stick. Even my shoving match with @Ann O'Maly over who has the best child-protective video is in the pedophile chapter.
  19. I have posted this issue before, but it was during the time of the hot topic of the persecution in Russia and maybe got overshadowed by it. A poster brought it up again in one of the threads so I thought I will try again to post it as a topic. My goal is not to sow doubts, nor to promote some false ideas, but rather to get to the bottom of this as I feel it is a valid question. The summary of the problem can be seen in the quotes below: Referring to people leaving their religion to join Jehovah's Witnesses: "No one should be forced to worship in a way that he finds unacceptable or be made to choose between his beliefs and his family". Awake 7/09 page 29 AND Regarding those disfellowshipped from Jehovah's Witnesses: "Really, what your beloved family member needs to see is your resolute stance to put Jehovah above anything else - including the family bond.....Do not look for excuses to associate with a disfellowshipped family member, for example, through email" p.16, paragraph 19, Study WT Jan / 2013 In the above situation we are assuming that the reason for disfellowshipping was because of changing one's religion and/or apostasy (not because of immorality etc.)
  20. A former member of the Jehovah Witness congregation will appear in court next week after he was charged with sexually assaulting four boys. The charges stem from ongoing investigations linked to the Royal Commission into institutional child sexual offences. Police allege between 1993 to 2013, the 44-year-old man sexually assaulted four boys aged between 14 and 16 at the time of the offences. READ MORE: http://www.watoday.com.au/wa-news/former-wa-jehovah-witness-charged-with-alleged-historic-child-abuse-offences-20170512-gw37yd.html
  21. WASHINGTON DC – President Donald Trump, Vice President Mike Pence and their wives attended Thursday evening meeting of Jehovah’s Witnesses in Washington D.C. The surprise appearance of the first families of the US drove many others to the Kingdom Hall of the Jehovah’s Witnesses. Though their visit was unannounced, ushers, preferably called ‘attendants’ by the religious organization received the Trump, Pence and wives and offered them front row seats. Trump was seen shaking hands with almost the entire congregation after the service and also picked copies of the groups publications ‘Watchtower’ and ‘Awake!’. White House spokesperson told the media present that “the surprise visit to the meeting of Jehovah’s Witnesses is to console all its members across the globe over Russia’s ban on its activities”. The presence of the dignitaries were acknowledged during the announcements segment of the service but Trump did not give a speech at the service. Trump connection to the Jehovah’s Witnesses came to public after his in-law Jared Kushner purchased the religious group’s buildings in Brooklyn. Russia’s Supreme Court ruled on April 20, 2017 that the Jehovah’s Witnesses organization should be closed down and no longer allowed to operate legally in Russia, Human Rights Watch said today. The ruling, which affects more than 100,000 Jehovah’s Witness worshippers across Russia, is a serious breach of Russia’s obligations to respect and protect religious freedom. https://www.bamstrend.com/52904.html
  22. This is a fork from another thread about guns... and also their stance on war in general.
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