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I knew Seth Sheepngoats would pull something like this, I knew it! The tip-off should have been when I saw him go into that costume shop.

He arrived at the Kingdom Hall just like anyone else yesterday. But halfway through the Watchtower Study, he reached into his bag and tied something behind his neck.

When he emerged, it was with a huge, magnificent Santa Claus beard!

He is such an idiot!

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Once again follow the Cloud. The Watch Tower we all studied high lights in no uncertain terms to give Glory to Jehovah and not to Ourselves in any way. In twenty paragraphs only one talks about Beards perhaps this is not much of an issue. I know that dress is and has been an issue. Remember if we were to make  changes to our attire if we visited Bethel one would have to wonder why? We are Jehovah's servants 24/7 not just when out in the ministry or when our Circuit Overseer visits. As per paragraph 17 it states " In some cultures a neatly trimmed beard May be acceptable and respectable, and it may not detract at all from the Kingdom message." Putting on a fake Beard during a meeting - very interesting.  Was the brother trying to prove a point? Was he trying to impress someone? I don't know, however once again doing something like that is quite over the top. Could doing that stumble someone? Was there any Bible studies there or interested ones? Yes I know full well that Brothers in the past and now have beards. I myself would love to grow a Beard but my wife doesn't like it on me and if I did happen to grow one it would take Time to grow not instantly. Remember Follow the Cloud and Give Glory To Jehovah Only.

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I knew Seth Sheepngoats would pull something like this, I knew it!
 
The tip-off should have been when I saw him go into that costume shop.
 
He arrived at the Kingdom Hall just like anyone else yesterday. But halfway through the Watchtower Study, he reached into his bag and tied something behind his neck. When he emerged, he was sporting a huge Santa Claus beard!
 
He is such an idiot.
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.... In order to have organizational consistency, in the New System,  Sisters will not be allowed to shave their legs and other areas, but male lions will be trimmed to look like poodles.  Few things are more respectable than a lion with a shaved snout.

.... that means nose area, for those in Rio Linda....

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10 hours ago, TrueTom said:

My study with Santa Claus is so 'yesterday's news' if this doesn't resolve in a certain way.

I think the best thing to do is to go into same the costume shop to buy a less conspicuous fake beard, and then if he tries it again next week you can trade

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with him. Last pun, I promise. Or perhaps he remembered that 'love covers a multitude of chins.' Oh wait, just one more, OK? Maybe he's making progress, and he no longer believes in "once shaved, always shaved."

Seriously, though....

You should take the time, of course, to understand his reasons. Perhaps something he saw or read triggered it. As I recall there were a lot of pictures of people discussing travel plans in that particular Watchtower Study, and travel experiences might be all he ever talks about all year. There is also a little picture of a man carrying a large stack of presents on page 22, and a reminder to have a sense of humor on page 23. Or perhaps he was trying to hide his Santa-sized stomach from his line of sight to avoid "setting the mind on the flesh" (see paragraph 10, for example, in the "middle" of Sunday's study, p.16). Or perhaps he misunderstood the opening of paragraph 13 when it said it was possible for a Christian to change, and he decided to change right there at his seat. 

I have to say that it is difficult to believe that a doppelganger for Friedrich Engels could actually engage himself as the catalyst for such a capitalistic enterprise.

 

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8 hours ago, JW Insider said:

I think the best thing to do is to go into same the costume shop to buy a less conspicuous fake beard, and then if he tries it again next week you can trade

    Hello guest!
with him. Last pun, I promise. Or perhaps he remembered that 'love covers a multitude of chins.' Oh wait, just one more, OK? Maybe he's making progress, and he no longer believes in "once shaved, always shaved."

Seriously, though....

You should take the time, of course, to understood his reasons. Perhaps something he saw or read triggered it. As I recall there were a lot of pictures of people discussing travel plans in that particular Watchtower Study, and travel experiences might be all he ever talks about all year. There is also a little picture of a man carrying a large stack of presents on page 22, and a reminder to have a sense of humor on page 23. Or perhaps he was trying to hide his Santa-sized stomach from his line of sight to avoid "setting the mind on the flesh" (see paragraph 10, for example, in the "middle" of Sunday's study, p.16). Or perhaps he misunderstood the opening of paragraph 13 when it said it was possible for a Christian to change, and he decided to change right there at his seat. 

I have to say that it is difficult to believe that a doppelganger for Friedrich Engels could actually engage himself as the catalyst for such a capitalistic enterprise.

 

 

8 hours ago, JW Insider said:

I think the best thing to do is to go into same the costume shop to buy a less conspicuous fake beard, and then if he tries it again next week you can trade

    Hello guest!
with him. Last pun, I promise. Or perhaps he remembered that 'love covers a multitude of chins.' Oh wait, just one more, OK? Maybe he's making progress, and he no longer believes in "once shaved, always shaved."

Seriously, though....

You should take the time, of course, to understood his reasons. Perhaps something he saw or read triggered it. As I recall there were a lot of pictures of people discussing travel plans in that particular Watchtower Study, and travel experiences might be all he ever talks about all year. There is also a little picture of a man carrying a large stack of presents on page 22, and a reminder to have a sense of humor on page 23. Or perhaps he was trying to hide his Santa-sized stomach from his line of sight to avoid "setting the mind on the flesh" (see paragraph 10, for example, in the "middle" of Sunday's study, p.16). Or perhaps he misunderstood the opening of paragraph 13 when it said it was possible for a Christian to change, and he decided to change right there at his seat. 

I have to say that it is difficult to believe that a doppelganger for Friedrich Engels could actually engage himself as the catalyst for such a capitalistic enterprise.

 

Hmmm. 'Setting his mind on the flesh.' You could be on to something. He does have a lot of it.

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On 11/18/2016 at 4:42 AM, Camo said:

Putting on a fake Beard during a meeting - very interesting.  Was the brother trying to prove a point? Was he trying to impress someone? I don't know, however once again doing something like that is quite over the top. Could doing that stumble someone?

A good sense of humor covers a multitude of beards though! :D:D

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With my usual lack of humor I present the Draft Copy of the December 2016 issue of the Watchtower which showed a Brother shaving on the cover ... it was changed before being distributed, because the Brothers responsible for the VERY GOOD and accurate article ... disappeared mysteriously.

Dec 2016 Watchtower draft article .pdf

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On 11/18/2016 at 5:00 AM, Queen Esther said:

Hey....   why  an  idiot ?  The  elders  in  the  last  years  allowed  beards !!   I  don't  know  why....  but  many  did  it.   Maybe  it  does  give  a  reason ?

 

On 11/19/2016 at 4:29 AM, TrueTomHarley said:
I knew Seth Sheepngoats would pull something like this, I knew it!
 
The tip-off should have been when I saw him go into that costume shop.
 
He arrived at the Kingdom Hall just like anyone else yesterday. But halfway through the Watchtower Study, he reached into his bag and tied something behind his neck. When he emerged, he was sporting a huge...
 
He is such an idiot.
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Many of us would have been shocked had we been there to witness this. It is hoped that the elders visited him personally at his home. The congregation is "A house of prayer". Matt 28:13

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The first Kingdom Hall I went to I had a tile floor sloped downward like a movie theater to the stage and podium.

I had a large bag of marbles I hid from my mother.

We arrived late and sat on the back row.

I dropped the bag and the marbles spilled out and rolled to the front, each making noise and hitting chair legs and shoes on the way down.

That's when I learned to pray.

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3 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

The first Kingdom Hall I went to I had a tile floor sloped downward like a movie theater to the stage and podium.

I had a large bag of marbles I hid from my mother.

We arrived late and sat on the back row.

I dropped the bag and the marbles spilled out and rolled to the front, each making noise and hitting chair legs and shoes on the way down.

That's when I learned to pray.

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Was that prayer during the meeting or while mom gave you a hiding at home. :)

While on that subject, Psalm 2 proves true in our day. The nations have cast off most of Jehovah's cords, especially discipline with the rod, as well as far as certain sexual activities which the whole world now condone. How worse can they get? 2 Tim. 3:13

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My friend and brother (Psalm 17:17) has a beard for most of his adult life. An overseer approached him late last year and told him that he would not be considered for any privileges due to his beard. My brother kept the beard to allow himself time to check the society's latest views seeing I told him that there was optimism at this website.

Yesterday an overseer approached my friend and asked him to handle the microphone during the Watchtower study. Seems that the congregation overseer had received advice from Bethel allowing beards - perhaps initially  for observation purposes.

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Yeah .... if he is drooling, stabbing the seat cushions with a knife, and brings a lunch to the 2017 Convention with fingers sticking out, they may need to reconsider the microphone thingy.

There are PLENTY of examples of men in the Bible who slaughtered each other in wars, conflicts and assassinations ... AND THEY ALL HAD BEARDS!

 

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On 7/7/2017 at 4:40 AM, Colin Browne said:

The nations have cast off most of Jehovah's cords, especially discipline with the rod,

Careful who you blame for this. Brother Geoffrey Jackson (of the Governing Body) just announced last year in court that Jehovah's Witnesses are now casting off this particular cord, too. In print, at least (and in court statements) I think we will only be considering this "rod" to be a figurative "rod" referring to "instruction."

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16 hours ago, Colin Browne said:

Seems that the congregation overseer had received advice from Bethel allowing beards

It's a policy that could have fallen long ago, IMO. (If it has)

Beatniks and hippies vanished as separate species ages ago. 

Nonetheless, what's the big deal? Many brothers got around it by not wearing beards. It's by squabbling over the petty freedoms that you miss out on the big ones.

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2 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

T's not the petty FREEDOMS that you miss out on ...... it's the petty TYRANNIES that you have to endure ..... and they are like Camels

Nonsense. I mean, it would be okay if you could find Jesus counseling his disciples: 'Don't take any s**t from anyone!'

I'd walk a mile to get away from such dumb reasoning

Which congregation did Sister Rand go to?

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TTH

sigh ....

..always trying to divert from any discussion of issues to try and disparage the character of someone ....

... and I believe you when you said you would walk away from such reasoning ...

... there were MANY people throughout History with the same opinions, and History is replete with horror of how it turned out for them.

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TRUTH does not cease to exist because it is ignored.

 

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On 7/9/2017 at 11:01 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

... there were MANY people throughout History with the same opinions

Why do you think there is to be a new system? Because God is enthralled over the noble independence-seekers of this one?

Rather than become focused over a trifle, it is good to consider Nathanial Hawthorne's take: "People who think the most bold of thoughts have no difficulty conforming to outward norms of society."

Nobody thinks thoughts more bold than Jehovah's Witnesses.

Actually, I think the reverse is also true. People who kick up a huge fuss over trifles tend to be the most conformist of all when it comes to bold things. Wear a beard if you want to. No one ever said you couldn't. You just would have to endure some peer pressure, and thus, might decide it was not worth it. That is the aspect that appears to be changing.

 

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Our congregation is beardless, bar one sister, she's been wearing one for years. She doesn't care about the peer pressure. She's one bold character with a backbone of steel. Besides, the elders have never counseled her about it as far as I know...

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I admire her courage ... a LOT ... but that would still creep me out.

I am sure she realizes this ... and it is THAT ... that gives her a backbone of steel.

John the Baptist, who slept under a rock or something, wore rags, and who ate locusts MILLENIA before toothbrushes ... was highly favored by God.

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I've read on these pages a lot of mirth and clever play on words - fine. However, the action that promoted this thread in the first instance astounded me.   The meetings are meetings with Jehovah.   I consider the action to be disrespectful.  Surely our actions in the presence of our Creator should be serious and attentive to the counsel?   Jehovah is a happy God and endowed us with a sense of humour, but he has words recorded at Ecclesiastes 3: 1 "There is an appointed time for everything, a time for every activity under the heavens:    "verse 4:  a time to weep and a time to laugh;...."

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17 minutes ago, Maid in UK said:

I've read on these pages a lot of mirth and clever play on words - fine. However, the action that promoted this thread in the first instance astounded me.   The meetings are meetings with Jehovah.   I consider the action to be disrespectful.  Surely our actions in the presence of our Creator should be serious and attentive to the counsel?   Jehovah is a happy God and endowed us with a sense of humour, but he has words recorded at Ecclesiastes 3: 1 "There is an appointed time for everything, a time for every activity under the heavens:    "verse 4:  a time to weep and a time to laugh;...."

That's @TrueTomHarleysome times he's serious, other times not, and sometimes it's difficult to tell if it's fact or fiction. He's a writer you see. But I will let him explain himself, if that's what he wants to do....

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2 hours ago, Maid in UK said:

I consider the action to be disrespectful. 

There is a lot of disrespect on these pages, good sister, and some outright apostacy. It is not the Assembly Hall. Technically speaking, I should not be here, nor anyone seriously attempting to follow counsel on cultivating fine association even on social media. I have tried to escape but each time find myself trapped in the vortex and drawn back into doing battle with a handful of persons whom I consider ignoramuses. (allowing for the premise, which some feel is doubtful, that I myself am one of the 'good guys') It is too late for me, but not too late for others to flee to the mountains.

Seriously, Maid in UK, I mean no disrespect to the theocratic interests. (I mean plenty of disrespect to some others) Not everyone appreciates 'zany' and some who do appreciate it think it inappropriate to apply to kingdom interests. I beg forgiveness in that case. If you can put up with an idiosyncrasy, I assure you that in my circuit I don't think there is a soul who does not like me, for I am, first of all, a peacemaker and I am not wound up too tight.

Unfortunately, I am also a communicator and I gots to communicate.

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In the final part of the days, the powers that be got their heads together.

"There's a lot of villains, scoundrels, pinheads and liars on the internet! Who can we send to combat them?" someone observed.

"Hmm. Well, the pool of talent is pretty shallow. I mean, there's plenty of talent but they're all busy doing the kingdom things they ought to be doing," another answered.

"You know, we could always send that idiot @TrueTomHarley. He'll reliably kick them in the teeth, all right. The only trouble is, he's as likely to annoy us as he is them."

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4 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

For awhile, I tried to learn Klingon .... even bought audio cassettes and considered taking classes at the KLI (Klingon Language Institute), but alas ... I could not get my throat to make those hard guttural sounds, and yell and spit at the same time.

I like when Riker was on the Klingon ship under the 'exchange student' program and had to eat their stuff.

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On 2/22/2017 at 11:51 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

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With my usual lack of humor I present the Draft Copy of the December 2016 issue of the Watchtower which showed a Brother shaving on the cover ... it was changed before being distributed, because the Brothers responsible for the VERY GOOD and accurate article ... disappeared mysteriously.

Dec 2016 Watchtower draft article .pdf 2.51 MB · 64 downloads

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I don't know why I thought what I thought when I saw that pic.....another type of pillow gate could happen....men should not shave other men, at least not without witnesses around.

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@Matthew9969 pillow what? I don't know if you hard this or got the memo but even outside of the hall, there are peeps out there that take issue with beards. No one is forced to shave, the decision is up to the individual, but the thing is we have to uphold modesty and cleanliness, as well as show respect to those we preach to in our community. If you preach around you'll run into people like this, well, some parts, for each area is different or far more/less diverse regarding race/groups/communities. 

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