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11 minutes ago, Tammie Nokes said:

So he is a member of the governing body?

No. Not even a Governing Body "Helper." Don't know anything about his current assignments.

Here is the list of current Governing Body "Helpers:"

Helpers to Governing Body Committees

Coordinators’ Committee

  • John Ekrann

  • Robert Wallen

Personnel Committee

  • Gerald Grizzle

  • Patrick LaFranca

  • Daniel Molchan

  • Ralph Walls

Publishing Committee

  • Don Adams

  • Robert Butler

  • Harold Corkern

  • Donald Gordon

  • Robert Luccioni

  • Alex Reinmueller

  • David Sinclair

Service Committee

  • Gary Breaux

  • Joel Dellinger

  • Seth Hyatt

  • Christopher Mavor

  • Baltasar Perla, Jr.

  • William Turner, Jr.

  • Robert Wallen

  • Leon Weaver, Jr.

Teaching Committee

  • Ronald Curzan

  • Kenneth Flodin

  • William Malenfant

  • Mark Noumair

  • David Schafer

Writing Committee

  • Robert Ciranko

  • James Mantz

  • Izak Marais

  • Gene Smalley

  • John Wischuk

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I would like to hear the full talk and the name of the brother who gave it and where  

I think it was the main talk at the  2006 Special Assembly Day called "Be Intensely Occupied With God's Inspired Word." Rumor has it that the brother who gave it was "demoted" from his "district conve

(Matthew 9:37, 38) Then he said to his disciples: “Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few. 38 Therefore, beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest.” Are we sa

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5 hours ago, Eoin Joyce said:

First, he said that only 3 countries in the world have no Jehovahs Witnesses now: Somalia, North Korea, Afghanistan. Can anyone verify or corroborate this?

That may be true, but I have mentioned on this forum a few months ago the issue with countries with extremely large populations such as India and China with over 1.3. billion each totaling aprox. 36% of the world's population where for all intents and purposes no one has even heard of Jehovah's Witnesses, and many, particularly in India don't even know what a Bible is. My question was, would Jehovah discard nearly 3 billion people because they have not heard the Good News of the Kingdom?  And if not, how long would it take for those 3 billion (bear in mind the extreme poverty and ignorance in some parts of these countries) to be made sufficiently aware in order to make an informed choice?

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So is there a title to the talk given 10 years ago?

And maybe where given?

We are waiting for the destruction of false religion. Peace and security is going now as we speak. This is the priority of all governments and major lawmakers on the planet, they are trying to sell this concept, that they can bring this about. Trump in his inaugural speech said he would bring about such safety to the crime ridden streets of America. What a promise! 

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2 hours ago, John Houston said:

Peace and security is going now as we speak

Is that your personal view?

3 hours ago, Anna said:

extremely large populations such as India and China with over 1.3. billion each totaling aprox. 36% of the world's population

Very good observation.

I suspect that the apostles had many questions like this  when Jesus commanded them to "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations". And they had no idea of the scope of this work in the detailed manner that is possible for us in these times. 

Of course, Jesus last words at that time guaranteed success right down to our day and beyond :"And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." Matt. 28:18-20.

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5 hours ago, John Houston said:

So is there a title to the talk given 10 years ago?

I think it was the main talk at the  2006 Special Assembly Day called "Be Intensely Occupied With God's Inspired Word." Rumor has it that the brother who gave it was "demoted" from his "district convention" speaking assignments for going off-script. The 2007 "district convention" had a talk called "Do Not Follow After False Stories" where this same talk was alluded to.

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2 hours ago, Eoin Joyce said:

I suspect that the apostles had many questions like this  when Jesus commanded them to "Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations". And they had no idea of the scope of this work in the detailed manner that is possible for us in these times. 

Of course, Jesus last words at that time guaranteed success right down to our day and beyond :"And look! I am with you all the days until the conclusion of the system of things." Matt. 28:18-20.

Good point. When the activity of the first few years after Jesus' death included people of many nations (beginning at Pentecost) this must have answered the question for them. Technically, they could have reasoned that Jesus' command in Matthew 28 would be fulfilled if at least one person from every nation became a disciple. Yet, they saw that quick spread among all the [known] nations of the Roman Empire and realized that the "world" was being turned up-side-down by their teaching. Technically, even Matthew 24 didn't require that those nations be thoroughly preached in, only that the good news be preached there. Recall that the method Jesus had recommended for Israel was not to go from house to house, but only to stay with people in a city that would invite you. If they didn't, just kick the dust off your feet and move on to another place.

As you say they could hardly have imagined the scope and detail possible in our time.

I forgot to mention in previous comments that the Watchtower in 1995 had also made the same claim that Matthew 24:14 had already been fulfilled, but the larger context was that the work should keep going as urgently as ever:

*** w95 9/1 pp. 17-18 pars. 16-17 Christian Witnesses for Divine Sovereignty ***
Paul showed that he understood this well. By the year 61 C.E., he could say that the good news was “bearing fruit and increasing in all the world.” The good news was not limited to just one nation . . .  Rather, it was openly “preached in all creation that is under heaven.” (Colossians 1:6, 23; 2:13, 14, 16-18) Thus, the Israel of God in the first century fulfilled its commission to “‘declare abroad the excellencies’ of the one that called [them] out of darkness into his wonderful light.”
17 Still, that first-century preaching work was merely a foretaste of what would be accomplished during the last days. Looking forward especially to our time, Jesus said: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (Matthew 24:14; Mark 13:10) Has this prophecy been fulfilled? Indeed, it has.

In saying that the good news had been preached, back around 61, Paul never implied that the work was done. But he was more likely rejoicing in the extent to which the work had been blessed. That is implied in the conclusion of the same article:

*** w95 9/1 p. 18 par. 19 Christian Witnesses for Divine Sovereignty ***
No wonder the apostle Paul was moved to say: “Woe is me if I did not declare the good news!” (1 Corinthians 9:16) Christians today feel the same way. . . . The work that had a small beginning in 1919 has now reached astounding proportions. Almost five million Christians are witnessing for divine sovereignty . . .  What a joy it is to have a part in this work of sanctifying Jehovah’s name! As we enter the 1996 service year, let us be determined not to slow down. Rather, we will more than ever heed Paul’s words to Timothy: “Preach the word, be at it urgently.” (2 Timothy 4:2) As we do so, we pray with all our hearts that Jehovah will continue to bless our efforts.

 

 

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On 4/10/2017 at 11:41 AM, Kurt said:

Does God Really Care About Us? Printing 2014 October

(some other "notes" I can add from the cd wt library) ....

2010
*** w10 5/1 p. 6 What Is God Doing? ***
We know this because the sign that Jesus foretold regarding “the conclusion of the system of things” is now being fulfilled.

2000
*** w00 10/15 p. 11 par. 7 God’s Kingdom—Earth’s New Rulership ***
That is why, as part of the sign that we now live in “the last days” of this wicked system, Jesus foretold: “This good news of the kingdom will be preached in all the inhabited earth for a witness to all the nations; and then the end will come.” (2 Timothy 3:1-5; Matthew 24:14) That prophecy is being fulfilled now, as about six million Jehovah’s Witnesses in 234 lands devote more than a billion hours a year telling others about God’s Kingdom. 

1997
*** w97 3/1 p. 11 par. 9 Are You Ready for Jehovah’s Day? ***
The foretold Kingdom-preaching work and other features of the sign of Jesus’ presence are being fulfilled right now. 
 


our understanding will be different (/better), as soon as we see the prophecy fulfilled, and we will understand more details when things will happen, (as we all, we will compare it then, with the knowledge & understanding we have now) ...B|

[greetings to all]

 

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(Matthew 9:37, 38) Then he said to his disciples: “Yes, the harvest is great, but the workers are few. 38 Therefore, beg the Master of the harvest to send out workers into his harvest.”

Are we saying that the Master of the Harvest does not know when to end it? and we have to awaken him?

(Matthew 24:44)44 On this account, you too prove yourselves ready, because the Son of man is coming at an hour that you do not think to be it.

We won't be able to work out when this day will come. See that Jesus said at Matthew 24:44. It will happen at a time we do not expect. Verse 36 says no man would know the day or hour (or year for that matter).  We have to be ready.  It is simple.

Jehovah God will give his Son and the angels the command to reap the harvest at the time he decides. (We must not minimize his role in it.)

(Revelation 14:14-16) 14 Then I saw, and look! a white cloud, and seated on the cloud was someone like a son of man, with a golden crown on his head and a sharp sickle in his hand. 15 Another angel emerged from the temple sanctuary, calling with a loud voice to the one seated on the cloud: “Put your sickle in and reap, because the hour has come to reap, for the harvest of the earth is fully ripe.” 16 And the one seated on the cloud thrust his sickle into the earth, and the earth was reaped.

So whether a GB member, Bethelite, elder or whoever said it is fulfilled, it is Jehovah's harvest and he will intervene when the work is done TO HIS SATISFACTION.

 

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