The last photo of Hachikō, the dog who waited for his master's return each day for 9 years until he too passed away.

[Guest Indiana]

1 hour ago, Outta Here said:

The capacity to understand and demonstrate true loyalty is bound up in having a personal relationship with the Creator, who alone is (or defines what is) loyal. (Rev.15:4).

This is not a tenable statement. I know atheist people who are truly loyal. I wouldn't  even question demons  loyalty to Satan 

[Guest Indiana]

1 hour ago, Outta Here said:

can never be spoken of as being loyal.

 

 

😂

Thanks God my dogs have been loyal to me, I can speak about them being loyal 

[TrueTomHarley]

We are famously loyal. Here’s what happens to the home of whoever says we are not:

[Guest Indiana]

😂😂😂

That evidence must have been planted by someone who disagrees with "a dog is the man's best friend" 😂

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4 hours ago, Indiana said:

That evidence must have been planted by someone who disagrees with "a dog is the man's best friend"

Must be.

Dogs like to clear up after their owners have gone.

4 hours ago, Indiana said:

I know atheist people who are truly loyal.

They just demonstrate their false position, as their loyalty, along with the presence of other godly qualities, is evidence of mankind having been created "in God's image".

5 hours ago, Indiana said:

I wouldn't  even question demons  loyalty to Satan 

Demons, "like their father, the Devil", are not capable of loyalty.

[Guest Indiana]

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

They just demonstrate their false position

What false position?

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

are not capable of loyalty.

Of course they are, maybe we wouldn't in so much trouble now if they have not been loyal to Satan. 

@The Librarian @JW Insider @Claudia Sanchez could you please make another post since this went from  Hachiko to question the loyaly of an atheist or demons. So @Outta Here may continue another thread.

5 hours ago, Outta Here said:

Must be.

@Outta Here 😂🤣😂

Thanks for sharing, couldn't expect less from a cat (as per your funny profile photo)

[Guest Indiana]

Now that I remember every club has its own owners and moderators...

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4 hours ago, Indiana said:

What false position?

Atheism. This is demonstrated as a false position by the atheists capacity to display a semblance of loyalty.

4 hours ago, Indiana said:

 this went from  Hachiko to question the loyaly of an atheist or demons

This question is whether a dog, such as Hachiko, can display true loyalty or not. This was the statement made in the second post:

On 6/27/2017 at 6:54 AM, The Librarian said:

Hachiko’s statue remains a symbol of this dog’s extreme loyalty

which I believe is incorrect. The very definition of loyalty precludes its display by a dog. As atheists and demons behaviour was submitted as evidence that a dog can display loyalty, so the discussion on the subject continued. Hardly off topic. It is the reasoning that is askew. No slight to the endearing Hachiko, who, it seems, reprieved his breed. 😊

[Anna]

19 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Jehovah God did NOT create ANY dogs.  They are the sole creation of mankind .... using the life and genetic potential God gave the Grey Wolf.

Yes, I know they share same genetics. But I think that when God created the domestic animals as per Genesis, he created the dog as a domestic animal 😀. I don't care what science says about the origin of dogs, they say the same about cows, sheep, chickens, pigs.....in that case, what would be the point of Genesis specifically differentiating between wild animals and domestic animals. (Actually, science says that everything came from prokaroytic microbes...)

[Anna]

Loyalty vs. faithfulness in a dog (as explained by Outta here) is I think just a case of semantics. Although Outta here was correct in what he said, in practice people understand it the way they want. People like to project human emotions and behaviour on to animals. I do believe though that dogs are able to communicate with humans because they "know" how to react like us. They are sad when we are sad, and happy when we are happy and they show it the same way (ok, not quite). I think dogs were made for people 🙂

[Anna]

Painting by Briton Riviere

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8 hours ago, Anna said:

just a case of semantics

Understated beautifully. I think faithfulness and loyalty are related, but different. But....that's another story.....