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CAN  WE  SPOT  A  LOST  SHEEP ?...... When she comes on Sunday, she is usually quite late. Is she baptized or inactive is the question for debate. Few people try to know her and some wonder and stare. No one tries to dig down deep to see who's really there. In her purse is a funeral program that is ragged around the ears. It is yellow and quite wrinkled and has been soaked with many tears. She's looked at it quite often and knows the resurrection hope. But she still mourns her daughter, and

It is not rocket science of course. Unfortunately there exist some members of the congregation who are a little "different" and because of that don't get included, and sometimes get outright ignored by the majority. A brother once told me about his wife and two sons. His wife had severe depression, but despite that, would come and sit at the back of the hall. From what he said, I gathered the friends pretty much ignored her. Maybe because they just didn't know what to say to her. Maybe because s

For whatever it is worth, when I was an elder, I kept my own personal check list of all attendees. During the course of the meeting I would discreetly (I hope) look about and place a check/no check by everyone's name. It is too easy to fall through the cracks when there are many things to occupy one's attention. To the extent possible, I wished to avoid that. I stopped serving for a variety of reasons and forgot all about my lists. Two decades later, I visited my daughter's congregation and

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That has been my personal experience, and my direct observations in approximately 80% of all the Congregations I have attended in the past 50 and more years ...and have watched it escalate dramatically as the "love of the greater number" has cooled off.

I cherish the other 20% ... but it was such a long time ago .....

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Thanks for your compassionate comments, dear brothers & sisters.
I understand you very well;  we are all imperfect and can't watching anywhere!
We also have a bad phase and need it,  maybe some nice words or some help....
We live in an evil world and unfortunately make mistakes again and again!

I know some problems from my congregation too. Many brothers showing love, but some can't do, thats fact.
But if EVERYBODY  tries, love can grow
:x

Let's pray for more love in our congregation and let's try watching more with our hearts ❤ 

( Jehovah will be happy...)
In this sense,  my best wishes to ALL
:)

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The elder body I served with also seemed to need a check list. Not just of people mind you, but a check list of how those people ranked spiritually based on metrics like meeting attendance, hours in FS, etc. Then the people on the check list would be dealt with according to their spiritual ranking.

Yeah JTR, maybe it's not rocket science, but some people make it more like a science than a humanity.

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2 hours ago, PeterR said:

The elder body I served with also seemed to need a check list. Not just of people mind you, but a check list of how those people ranked spiritually based on metrics like meeting attendance, hours in FS, etc. Then the people on the check list would be dealt with according to their spiritual ranking.

Yeah JTR, maybe it's not rocket science, but some people make it more like a science than a humanity.

I suppose by spiritual ranking you mean spiritual health, which is usually an indicator of overal health and happiness. Therefor those who are spiritually low, as indicated by some factors you mention, then those need more help and encouragement than others, or as you put it, "need to be dealt with". I'm afraid you make it sound more like a science than a humanity.

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9 hours ago, PeterR said:

The elder body I served with also seemed to need a check list.

Did they or didn't they?

9 hours ago, PeterR said:

Not just of people mind you, but a check list of how those people ranked spiritually based on metrics like meeting attendance, hours in FS, etc. Then the people on the check list would be dealt with according to their spiritual ranking.

Would you be upset if a doctor considered a person's 'metrics' before 'dealing with him?'

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59 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Would you be upset if a doctor considered a person's 'metrics' before 'dealing with him?'

 

You do give me a wry smile TH.

If the congregation average hours is 10hrs then >10hrs = spiritually okay, <10hrs = something wrong

(Gal 6:4 anyone?)

And those 10hrs can be standing by a cart smiling, but they can't be visiting the sick, helping the elderly, etc.

Where are these metrics found in God's Word? Can you not just know a brother/sister well enough to know how they are truly doing spiritually? Or is that a part of the problem - more time spent gathering metrics than getting to know people?

 

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1 hour ago, PeterR said:

And those 10hrs can be standing by a cart smiling, but they can't be visiting the sick, helping the elderly, etc.

Oh? And those passing by a cart are all skipping and laughing over the sheer joy of life and banishment of cares?

In fact, doing good is much like exercising a muscle, or working out your brain. It triggers a bottomless capacity to do more. It is not the win-lose situation you seem to be stuck on. It is a win-win.

The '"ten hours" (your emphasis - not mine) is not a lot, and it represents helping people, as it is a measure of Jesus command to preach the good news. Generally speaking, people who do it will not be too busy to also visit the sick and the elderly. And people too self-absorbed to do it will not instead visit the sick and the elderly.

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Dr. Mike 'Ace' Inhibitor strode into the hospital to see his patient, who looked grim. "Nurse, get me this man's metrics." he said. 

His nurse, Hep See, was shocked. "Doctor, this is a person, not a collection of 'metrics!' she rebuked the man.

"All I meant was..." the doctor began.... "It's very clear what you meant!" she shot back. "You need more love!"

"Oh for crying out loud!" Dr. Inhibitor cried in disgust. "Give me a hack saw. We're going in blind."

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