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1 hour ago, J.R. Ewing said:

anyone wishes to “read” the “TRUE” transcript of the case, it’s available online. Just be careful, since “apostates” have rewritten some pages of the transcript to bolster their ignorant claims. One, that has been submitted here already is a good example since it was gathered by an apostate book.

Ok show me what I misrepresented 

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That's really the crux of all the problems with the organization. Rank-and-file JWs do not have the right to question any doctrines--even with Biblical support. Only the GB can correctly interpret the

I do get warm feelies here. I don't think that's a bad thing. (I don't mean here, with @The Librarianand all; I mean in Jehovah's organization) I am like most Witnesses who do not have to have ev

Like I really should watch CNN to learn the truth about Trump or Breitbart to learn the truth about Obama? I'll choose what I choose to see in proper context, neither cherry-picked nor skewed.

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1 hour ago, J.R. Ewing said:

is now bent on discrediting the Watchtower in every possible way by insinuating the 1914 doctrine is “false”, when NOT, any ex-witness can “disprove” it.

I'd be very interested in what you would consider proof that the teaching isn't true. 

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7 minutes ago, Albert Michelson said:

I'd be very interested in what you would consider proof that the teaching isn't true. 

Oh! I don't know, let's see. Can you go back in time to change the commencement of WW1?

Can you go back in time to prevent the British from freeing the Jews in late 1913 early 1914?

Little things like that, it's a no brainer, so you and JTR can pick your poison!

There are others that ex-witnesses haven't thought of, but like Tom said, if they haven't figured it out in more than 70 years, then, why show it. so, let's stick to the things you supposedly know.

As for apostate views, I have little to no interest in showing them their erred claims.

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1 hour ago, J.R. Ewing said:

this heretical thought that it’s up to us to prove it, is subjectable since they’re the ones that bring it up. So, it’s for them to prove it wrong. Now, on the other hand, Pastor Russell, proved to the world, his calculations he started 40 years earlier came to a completion. That event was confirmed by worldly conditions.

Wrong it's the JWs who are making a positive claim, they are ones who have to prove it. A claim like that ( Jesus coming invisiblely and selecting your organization as his religion and your leaders as his sole channel of communication) is not true until proven false it needs to be  proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. It can be disproven beyond any reasonable doubt but the onus is on the witnesses to prove their claim, as the saying goes "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

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1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

If someone insists on acting as a 10-year old, there's no need to go there with him.

That would be my sentiment: I'm afraid you'll have to explain this one for me. I don't know what you mean.

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16 minutes ago, Albert Michelson said:

Wrong it's the JWs who are making a positive claim, they are ones who have to prove it. A claim like that ( Jesus coming invisiblely and selecting your organization as his religion and your leaders as his sole channel of communication) is not true until proven false it needs to be  proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.

No! sorry, Charlie, It's up to the opposers. You guys keep coming up with the same thing year after year without disproving it!!! It's up to the faithful to understand God's Word. If there are reservations (Skeptical) then that person is free to choose, but you can't be both.

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20 minutes ago, Albert Michelson said:

 is not true until proven false it needs to be  proven beyond a shadow of a doubt. It can be disproven beyond any reasonable doubt but the onus is on the witnesses to prove their claim, as the saying goes "extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence"

Here, your error in thinking anyone has the power and authority to persuade someone. I used to enter the most questionable apostate websites, and no one could answer simple reliable proven events, same as here. The best was "Simon" but he couldn't hold water with his, kind of debate. But since he was the owner of that website, you guessed it "DELETION".

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50 minutes ago, J.R. Ewing said:

You guys keep coming up with the same thing year after year without disproving it!!

So you just haven't done the research?

the-gentile-times-reconsidered.pdf

50 minutes ago, J.R. Ewing said:

No! sorry, Charlie, It's up to the opposers.

nope, you claim it's true, you claim god chose them and it's his organization then you have the prove it plain and simple.

57 minutes ago, J.R. Ewing said:

Oh! I don't know, let's see. Can you go back in time to change the commencement of WW1?

Can you go back in time to prevent the British from freeing the Jews in late 1913 early 1914?

Bahahahahahahaha wait you think that's evidence. 

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54 minutes ago, J.R. Ewing said:

Oh! I don't know, let's see. Can you go back in time to change the commencement of WW1?

Can you go back in time to prevent the British from freeing the Jews in late 1913 early 1914?

Wait you forgot The Panama Canal, Safety Glass, Traffic cones, Fortune cookies, and Plastic they were all finished being made or were invented in wait you guess it 1914! That must mean it's true! I mean look at this conclusive evidence, these things couldn't have been a coincidence nope no sir I see gods hand all over this bad boy. Bahahahahaha 

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33 minutes ago, Albert Michelson said:

So you just haven't done the research?

the-gentile-times-reconsidered.pdf

So, you think the rambling of an uneducated person gives you proof, Reread the nonesense@@

Well, you can bluster all you want. That's typical of a jaded person that has NO common sense. But, I was referring to intellectually, NOT childish gibberish. So, you and JTR need to try harder, possibly in the realm of adulthood. :D

 

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9 minutes ago, J.R. Ewing said:

Well, you can bluster all you want. That's typical of a jaded person that has NO common sense. But, I was referring to intellectually, NOT childish gibberish. So, you and JTR need to try harder, possibly in the realm of adulthood. :D

This is why I LIKE being a comedian on this forum ... no shortage of comedic "Straight Men".

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