Which Came First, the Chicken or the Egg?

[Witness]

This age-old question has been the subject of children, science and everyone in between since its written origin in ancient Greek history. Depending on what source you read today, they think they’ve nailed down the answer; and it appears to go either way.

Here is an easier question:

What comes first, birth or birth pains? We know this answer, but when it comes to the arrival of God’s Kingdom, the Watchtower does not.

From the NWT: In answer Jesus said to them: “Look out that nobody misleads you, for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will mislead many. You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet. “For nation will rise against nation and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be food shortages and earthquakes in one place after another. All these things are a BEGINNING OF PANGS OF DISTRESS. “ Matt 24: 4-8

The Watchtower teaches that God’s Kingdom arrived in 1914 in the heavens. This event is to be interpreted as the beginning of the signs of “pangs of distress”, their choice of translation. Certainly, the world clearly shows distress evident in the wars, famines, pestilences and earthquakes.

The Greek word for Wt.’s use of “pangs of distress” (ōdin) literally means pains related to child birth – labor pains.
This truth is found in Watchtower’s Greek Interlinear, reading word for word:

“All but these (things) beginning of pangs of birth”.

Why isn’t it read this way when translating the scripture on the same page? The Watchtower would be held responsible for explaining how the birth of God’s Kingdom supposedly arrives before birth pains. “The Kingdom is Born in heaven”, according to the “kr”, chapter 2; yet ironically, it appears to be followed by birth pains.

From “What Does the Bible Teach?” - “Just as Jesus predicted, his “presence” as heavenly King has been marked by dramatic world developments—war, famine, earthquakes, pestilences. (Matthew 24:3-8; Luke 21:11) Such developments bear powerful testimony to the fact that 1914 indeed marked the BIRTH of God’s Heavenly Kingdom and the BEGINNING of “the last days” (LABOR PAINS!) of this present wicked system of things.—2 Timothy 3:1-5.

How clever of them to change the “beginning of birth pains” (“pains of distress”) to “the beginning of the last days”!

Concerning the focusing of our eyes on Satan’s world for signs of the coming Kingdom, it is not Satan’s corrupt world that is in labor, it is the promised New Covenant that gives “birth” to God’s Kingdom. This ‘birthing’ is not complete until the full number of Kingdom heirs are sealed in the heavens; but not before they individually experience spiritual “labor/birth pains”, resulting from Satan’s demand to test each one. John 18:36; 17:16; Rev 12:1-6; Luke 22:31; Mark 13:13; John16: 2; Rev 2:9,10,13,17,7,24,26,28; 6:9,11; 3:5,9,12,21,22 
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/…

Watchtower 14/1/15 - “Let your Kingdom come”: God’s Kingdom came in 1914 when Jesus was made King in heaven. God’s Kingdom will also come in the future when Jesus destroys the wicked."

Here is where they have derived their thought:

“Therefore, you should pray like this:
Our Father in heaven,
Your name be honored as holy.
Your kingdom come.
Your will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us today our daily bread.
And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
And do not bring us into temptation,
but deliver us from the evil one.
For Yours is the kingdom and the power
and the glory forever. Amen." Matt 6:9-13

Their comment has taken scripture out of context. Can the Kingdom of God arrive via two births at two different times? Obviously, God’s Kingdom has NOT come IN ANY FORM, as Satan is still here.

 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Without getting into the logic and reasoning behind your detailed  explanation of "Which Came first, the Chicken or the Egg?', I would like to state as a side thought that the Chicken came first.

Chickens actually ... as it takes two to make a viable egg.

[DeeDee]

1 hour ago, Witness said:

Can the Kingdom of God arrive via two births at two different times?

There are many prophecies in the Bible that have two fulfillments.

Also, here are some ideas to consider regarding birth pains...

1. Jehovah told Eve: "...in pain you will give birth to children..." (Gen 3.16)
2. This was punishment for having disobeyed him.
3. Jesus did NOT disobey him.
4. Maybe the birth of God's Kingdom was without suffering pain because Jesus was obedient.

[Queen Esther]

NO  question.....   ALL  animals  came  first,  bec. Jehovah  created  perfect  animals  and  NO  eggs,  hahaha  -  also  the  perfect  plants  we  saw  and  NO  seeds....  The  same  last  with  Adam  and  Eve  -  NOT  Babies  HE  created,  but  perfect  adult  humans !  FIRST  ADAM  AND  THEN  EVE.

EGGS  AND  LITTLE BABIES  COMING  FROM  THE  ADULT  CREATIONS !   WE  ALL  KNOW  THAT -  HAHA

Does a Hen Need a Rooster to Lay Eggs?

This is the most-asked question by people curious about chickens. Most people are quite relieved to learn that the answer is "no"-- the hen (female) will lay eggs with or without a rooster (male) present.

WHAT  DO YOU  THINK ? 

[DeeDee]

7 hours ago, Queen Esther said:

ALL  animals  came  first,  bec. Jehovah  created  perfect  animals  and  NO  eggs,  hahaha 

GREAT COMMENT!! It is wonderful how the Bible gives ALL the answers to ALL of man's questions!

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Well ... from the above picture it appears the Rooster IS SUPERVISING SOMETHING!

ka-ching!

But seriously folks .... could God make a rock so big EVEN HE could not lift it?

[DeeDee]

12 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

could God make a rock so big EVEN HE could not lift it?

Could you explain this? I don't get it...Thanks!

[DeeDee]

Not all eggs are Fertile.

What makes a chicken egg fertile?

Having a rooster with your backyard hens ensures that virtually all eggs are fertile. A chicken egg becomes fertilized inside the female chicken's body while she is making the egg. Sperm from the rooster who has mated her in the past couple weeks is stored in her reproductive system and added to her eggs as they are made.

www.answers.com/Q/How_does_a_chicken_egg_become_fertilized

[DeeDee]

20 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

from the above picture it appears the Rooster IS SUPERVISING SOMETHING!

God created BOTH male and female...then had Noah take one of each on the Ark.

The Bible can answer ALL of our questions very nicely...

We really don't need to wonder if we just read the Bible...

God   gives us ALL of the answers...YAY!!!

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

It seemed a "given" at the time ... that 5 of the animals brought onto the Ark in the category that required seven animals, would be food for the other animals.

7 minus 5 = 2.

This was before refrigeration, and Purina Lion and Tiger Chow.

The Kangaroos had to be especially healthy, to be able to hop and then swim all the way to Australia.

Noah's son was in charge of the check list, and checked off the Chickens , but forgot the Unicorns.

[DeeDee]

7 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

The Kangaroos had to be especially healthy, to be able to hop and then swim all the way to Australia.

That was an interesting picture you posted about the kangaroos in the "Humor" post Noah's Aargh! 

It made me wonder...

Maybe Jehovah "transferred" the kangaroos to Australia?...

Or maybe the land masses were closer together back then, so it wasn't such a difficult trip?...

[Matthew9969]

On ‎1‎/‎8‎/‎2018 at 8:14 PM, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Without getting into the logic and reasoning behind your detailed  explanation of "Which Came first, the Chicken or the Egg?', I would like to state as a side thought that the Chicken came first.

Chickens actually ... as it takes two to make a viable egg.

Doesn't it take 1 chicken and 1 rooster....