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Maybe we finally have this City of Refuge thing down pat after yesterday's study article. The way the Law had it, the accidental manslayer had to flee to one of the six cities of refuge, where his cas

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I agree with the comment by JWI on the speculative nature of scenarios in connection with the cities of refuge. I haven't investigated cities of refuge in a historical context simply because reliable

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Hey, does anyone remember that Twilight Zone episode where the driver strikes and kills the kid? -obviously and accident. His wife remarks over dinner how horrible it is that the unknown driver did no

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On 1/19/2018 at 2:23 PM, JW Insider said:

the 10 commandments themselves stand outside these sets of laws as unique. 

Thinking about this further from a legal perspective, it was a lawyer who stated (Rom.2:14-15):

"For when people of the nations, who do not have law, do by nature the things of the law, these people, although not having law, are a law to themselves.  They are the very ones who demonstrate the matter of the law to be written in their hearts, while their conscience is bearing witness with them, and by their own thoughts they are being accused or even excused."

Wouldn't this seem to add a perspective to the obvious connection between various ancient legal codes?

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5 minutes ago, Gone Fishing said:

Wouldn't this seem to add a perspective to the obvious connection between various ancient legal codes?

Excellent! I think so, too.

Of course, there is much more to say on the topic of the intersections between Mosaic Law and other ancient legal codes. I was surprised at the level of literary agreement with the LH and related written codes. It's a little off-topic, but it appears to reach even beyond the actual content of the laws themselves (expected?), but to the style (expected?), structure (expected?) and even to the Epilogue and Prologue found in Exodus (unexpected!)

For myself, I don't think going much deeper is very useful right now, but the book and journal article I quoted from are easy to find if anyone wants to look into it more. I'll get back to this topic in a few days.

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      Found it, thanks. You are correct.
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      Can secular chronology be trusted?

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