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The last time we had a crisis such as since 1880, the global temperature has risen by 0.74 degrees celsius, is when my grandmother went to a pig eating contest and her corset exploded!

So ... in 138 years the Earth's temperature went up 3/4 of one degree ... which is quite understandable if you understand orbital mechanics, Milankovitch Cycles ( Look it up on Wikipedia ....), and the fact that our Sun is a variable star with 40,000 year, 4,000 year, and 11 year cycles.

Please feel free to run down the hallway screaming with your hair on fire.

Until you can change the physics of nuclear fusion, and specifically our star, the Sun,  there is ONLY one thing a rational person can do.

Improvise and adapt.

 

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.... an increase in carbon dioxide is NOT making the Earth warmer.

The Earth is getting warmer because of the variability of our Sun, and the Earth's orbital eccentricities .... and that increased warmth is causing more bacteria in the soil to flourish and reproduce, and they poop MORE CARBON DIOXIDE.

Get it?

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8 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

an increase in carbon dioxide is NOT making the Earth warmer.

I get it. You think the CO2 is an effect not the cause. But here's something to think about:

Same article also states what happens on the same planet at very high places near the outskirts of the atmosphere of this planet:

  • At 125 kilometres above the planet's surface, the weather is -175 °C with a good chance of carbon dioxide ice. It is the ice that causes the brighter regions in the atmosphere. It's much colder there than anywhere on Earth, despite the fact Venus is closer to the sun.

The level of CO2 in an atmosphere is a much better predictor of average global air temperature in any planetary model than are solar cycles.

 

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Skin is skin ..... but when you are sitting around a campfire on a cold night ..... quite comfortable ... ( even though you may have to rotate ) .... and you half the distance, you are going to have 4 times the energy impinge on your body ( all radiation follows the inverse square law ).  You may get hot enough to damage your skin.

To find the approximate distance between the orbits of two planets in AU, subtract the two planet-Sun distances. For example, Earth orbits at 1 AU from the Sun and Venus orbits at 0.72 AU from the Sun. Mercury is 0.39 AU from the Sun.

... and that makes ALL the difference.

Plus the atmosphere of Venus is almost 100% carbon dioxide, AND 93 TIMES MORE DENSE (HEAVIER) THAN EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE ... than our Earth's predominately nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere, with TRACES of carbon dioxide, by comparison.

Venus is almost completely covered with sulfur dioxide clouds, which has completely different infrared absorption characteristics than that Earth's water based clouds.

Just because Earth and Venus share approximately the same size does NOT mean they are in any way whatsoever similar otherwise.

 And a comparison with Mercury makes no sense at all, because Mercury, except for some temporary Solar wind particles, has no atmosphere whatsoever, and  it is unique in that it does not rotate every 24 hours like the Earth does, but only rotates exactly three time for every two Mercury years.

What occurs on Mercury is a COMPLETELY different energy transfer situation.

 You are comparing "Apples, Giraffes, and Volkswagens".

Ever watch the old TV show "Have Gun - Will Travel" on TV in the 60's?

I was always jarred seeing Paladin riding his horse across the Arizona and Texas  deserts in summertime ... dressed completely in black.

I am almost sure this filming was done on a lot in California ... but what was depicted would have caused him to have a heat stroke in about five minutes.  I have a black suit I wore out in Service last Saturday, and at 80 degrees, I was sweating like a human bathroom shower head.

You are comparing things that are in NO WAY even remotely similar .... except Venus is roughly the same size as Earth.

Mercury is a unique situation unto itself.

I used to do Solar Isolation calculations for a living, for the Parson's Brinckerhoff family of engineering companies ... and often had to dispel the opinions of those who did not.

Very few people understand complex composite energy transfers in disparate systems .... I grew up with it.

The FIRST rule of Engineering is "make a sketch", and correctly label the component parts ...

 

 

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Another way to look at the data is to notice that the average global temperature always changed by LESS than one-tenth a degree from decade to decade for the first 100 years of recording, and for the first 50 years it was just as likely to be dropping (1880-1929) as rising. But starting in the 1914 decade, there have now been 11 decades in a row without a temperature drop in any of them. The rise was minimal, however, and the 40s, 50s, 60's, 70's were so flat (in terms of rise/fall) that they provide the effective baseline from which to measure the rest.

But since the time of President Ronald Reagan and Vice-President Raymond Franz (the 1980's), the rise has consistently been MORE than a tenth of a degree from each previous decade.

My iPhone weather app includes NYC, LA, Dubai, North Pole, South Pole simultaneously, and yesterday (June 7!!) it showed that it was warmer on the North Pole than in NYC. Also, the South Pole was 130 degrees colder than the North Pole.

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To be factored in somewhere for consideration would be: if there was a redistribution of temperature worldwide, but no net increase, the polar icecaps might melt, raising sea level. So rising sea levels do not necessarily equate to global warming, though that is the first idea that comes to mind.

Where I come from, they did not renew the contract of the long-time TV weatherman that everyone loved. As I follow the fellow on Twitter, it becomes clear that he is a nonbeliever in global warming. I asked him once if that was the reason? No answer, though he has responded on other things.

It doesn't have to be the reason. In fact, it is more likely a cost-cutting move. But the question was raised in my mind. I can't help but think it may be some permutation of the scientist saying: (not verbatim) Around here, those who believe in God keep their mouths shut.'

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17 hours ago, JW Insider said:

My iPhone weather app includes NYC, LA, Dubai, North Pole, South Pole simultaneously, and yesterday (June 7!!) it showed that it was warmer on the North Pole than in NYC. Also, the South Pole was 130 degrees colder than the North Pole.

.... climate is what we expect ..... weather is what we get.

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On 6/8/2018 at 8:11 AM, JW Insider said:

My iPhone weather app includes NYC, LA, Dubai, North Pole, South Pole simultaneously, and yesterday (June 7!!) it showed that it was warmer on the North Pole than in NYC. Also, the South Pole was 130 degrees colder than the North Pole.

Are you talking about the Astronomic North and South Poles ... or the Magnetic North and South Poles?   As with all things "the devil is in the details".

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