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If God created everything, then who put the bad in the tree of knowledge?


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Genesis:

15  Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it.n 16  Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.o 17  But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”

The teachings tell us that Adam and Eve eating from the tree of knowledge is what unleashed evil all over the world.

Evil such as war, child sexual abuse, genocide, and all kinds of horrors.

But if God made the tree, then he created the bad that went into it as well, no?

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New World Translation:

Isaiah 45:7

7 I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

King James Version

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

American Standard Version

7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

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1 hour ago, Jack Ryan said:

5  Jehovah God took the man and settled him in the garden of Eʹden to cultivate it and to take care of it.n 16  Jehovah God also gave this command to the man: “From every tree of the garden you may eat to satisfaction.o 17  But as for the tree of the knowledge of good and bad, you must not eat from it, for in the day you eat from it you will certainly die.”

And? Had it ever occurred to you that perhaps the Tree, as well as the Tree of Life may have and would have had a different purpose later on if Adam and Eve had become disobedient? Who knew what God's plans were originally before he said the following in Genesis 3:15 which paved a way for his Son, Jesus to clean up after us.

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The teachings tell us that Adam and Eve eating from the tree of knowledge is what unleashed evil all over the world.

Adam and Eve simply disobeyed, kicked out of the Garden and left to cultivate the earth, they did the hand out treatment that the Garden and Eden had for them, so they had to do things on their own, get and make food on their own and realizing they were naked, they had to cultivate the earth in order to cloth themselves, granted I did find the exchange between God and Adam regarding Adam's nakedness quite funny. All tree-fruit aside, evil came about has men progressed.

I wouldn't call it an unleash of evil, it came about among mankind who already had inherited sin, and they were not the only ones who did evil and or bad things, we have demons, fallen angels, former Spirit sons who dwell among God's presence, who had sexual relations with the daughters of men and eventually exposed an cast out of heaven, clearly a fruit didn't cause the angels to go on a earthly dating trip. At that point, God see that things went from 100 to 0 really fast, then came Enoch, and then came Noah, and afterwards men, again, went on to do bad things, but no worries, remember Genesis 3:15, God knew what had to be done and therefore Jesus was indeed coming, and he will return to actually cut out the wickedness like a seed in an Avocado.

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But if God made the tree, then he created the bad that went into it as well, no?

Unless you knew what God's original plan WAS for the Tree of Knowledge and the Tree of Life, then you can speak of what you are saying, other than that, none of us know what was the original plan before God even stated what he said in Genesis 3.

Who knows but the LORD. But I can imagine if Adam and Eve ate from both trees, not only we have to deal with imperfect men, but every tyrant and monster in American and or mankind's history, we would all have to deal with to this day.

1 hour ago, Jack Ryan said:

Update:

New World Translation:

Isaiah 45:7

7 I form light and create darkness, I make peace and create calamity; I, Jehovah, am doing all these things.

King James Version

7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

 American Standard Version

7 I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am Jehovah, that doeth all these things.

Ok... No application of context and what the cross-references say exactly? You might as well look up what evil/calamity, in any translation points to.

Also both Calamity and Evil are 7451, so there is a respects to the Strong's and the manuscripts, not much of a drastic change if the Strong's are identical. So those listed are correct.

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Everything heavier than hydrogen was created later ... in Stars ..... through the fusion process, and Iron, and everything heavier than that, were created in Star Supernova explosions, also through the fusion process.

God MADE Eden, and all things in it, from available materials.

The "Tree of Knowledge" was like any other tree ... no different ....

The "bad" was Adam and Eve's decision that their values were superior to God's values. and with that, as an example, the "discovered" that they were naked. 

Perhaps lust had something to do with it?

Or poison ivy, and ants?

Those are three things that do not mix well with being naked.

Jehovah did not care at all that they were naked, and neither did they, until they adopted their own independent value system.

If you do not have the Freedom to be self destructive ... Freedom does not really exist.

.... but Freedom exercised badly is .... oh ..... whats the word I want to use .... um ... oh yeah! ....  "BAD". 

Like being waist deep in the swamp, and hand feeding a crocodile .... you would get a significant revelation.

Knowledge!

The "Tree of Knowledge" gave them no knowledge whatsoever, on any subject.

It or its descendants possibly survived until the Noachian Flood.

The "bad" was not in the tree ... neither was any actual  knowledge.

By the way ... had it occurred to you that everyone on Earth alive today, or that has ever lived, under their clothes, is or was running around naked?

Just like hand feeding a crocodile, if you make the decision to do that ... YOU WILL GET KNOWLEDGE !

But ... it may cost you an arm and a leg!

 

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