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For women no.... For men... why do I suspect the woman would still kill us? LOL

Perception is 95% of everything.

Would you want to defend yourself regarding robot sex to your woman? haha... I thought not.

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Um, strange topic, strange people on here :) 

If a man looks at a woman so as to have a desire for her he has committed adultery / fornicaton in his heart.  And if a man looks at pornography it is also wrong. But robots, does that include full size 'dolls' ? Oh dear the plot thickens. 

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16 hours ago, Anna said:

She looks a little scary

In the story line, on her planet of origin, she was raped when she was 5, and gang-raped until 12, when she escaped, and she was the Starship Enterprise's Chief Security Officer.

She was SUPPOSED to be somewhat scary.

... but definitely NOT a Liberal Snowflake that melts at the slightest adversity.

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17 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Started life as a JW then ? 

Probably not .... by the 23rd Century, there would have been about 8 to 15 overlapping generations making up one generation, and of course, the Star Trek Universe is completely fictional ...... as many things are ... like the Robot named Six-of-Nine, at the bottom of this picture, a parody of Star Trek's Borg,  Seven-of-Nine.

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28 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Probably not .... by the 23rd Century, there would have been about 8 to 15 overlapping generations making up one generation, and of course, the Star Trek Universe is completely fictional ...... as many things are ... like the Robot named Six-of-Nine, at the bottom of this picture, a parody of Star Trek's Borg,  Seven-of-Nine.

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You are into some weird stuff man :) 

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3 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

You need to get out more .... and read more. And see more movies.

Ever the see the movie "Three Days of the Condor" (1975) with Robert Redford?

 

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I live a real life, not fantasy world stuff. My wife and I do occasionally snuggle up on the sofa and watch a film on Netflix. But it would be something we'd choose between us and not on a regular basis.

I'm deeply involved in auctions and 'caretaker' of a semi derelict mansion, so i'm busy enough and getting out lots. 

What do you think of 'my' house then ? 

 

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@TheWorldNewsOrg I kinda spoke about this before but kept it PG because everything regarding sex robots is actually true and it is explicit. There is also a far, darker side to this stuff to and I rather not say.

 

However, those who do take up an inanimate object have given themselves over to sexual gratification in this regard, not to far from the VR counterpart regarding Virtual Reality, in a sense, it is identical to the movie that came out some months ago, Ready Player One. If this has already been achieved, and the robots, they can go even further with this stuff and next thing you know it will be all over the place.

This will result in the churches to take precautions because such can pose as a literal danger to the people.

I remember one time, I debated with someone about the early church, this guy was an atheist, and when we got to A.I.and robots, he admits he has one of these robots or dolls hidden underneath his bed and clearly this was something I did not want to hear, granted at the time I was a a young man and didn't know these things, as a young adult now, I know what these things are now.

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12 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Yes with over 50 rooms 

At least most of those cars finally got cleared off the lot. "Urban Explorers" must still be a problem, though. I read somewhere that they keep breaking locks and cutting fences just to take a selfie at a place like this. Right?

Looks like quite a project. Perhaps someday it could become a "Wyndham" hotel.

Seriously, however, especially if permission to add the two 70 foot towers and botanical gardens works out, it would be a great place for corporate events, weddings, etc. In the US, we often made use of these out of the way locations for corporate events. Attendance was always low when events were held in Las Vegas, Atlanta, etc., and much higher at captive locations. With those planned hiking trails it would remind me of the last three I went to:

  1. Mohonk House in New Paltz, New York
  2. and another one in Amish/Mennonite country in rural Ohio,
  3. and another one in Asheville, North Carolina, The [Vander]Biltmore).

I don't know how popular this idea is in the UK, but a French company I worked for would send us to a Bordeaux winery (that they owned) and then a "Club Med" in Normandy that was not a typical water-sports oriented Club Med. It was designed with a lot of garden-like pools and little bridges based on Monet/Manet paintings.

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3 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

I live a real life, not fantasy world stuff. My wife and I do occasionally snuggle up on the sofa and watch a film on Netflix. But it would be something we'd choose between us and not on a regular basis.

I'm deeply involved in auctions and 'caretaker' of a semi derelict mansion, so i'm busy enough and getting out lots. 

What do you think of 'my' house then ? 

 

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Wow, it's fantastic! Looks like a lot of work on the pillars, will they be able to be restored to their original beauty?

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4 hours ago, JW Insider said:

planned hiking trails

One thing that upset me when I moved to the USA was the realisation that one cannot just walk anywhere. In Europe, for the most part, everyone has "the right to roam" which means you can pretty much go anywhere, even on privately owned land. In America, most land is owned by someone, and that someone does not tolerate anyone walking through their property. I'm sure @James Thomas Rook Jr. wouldn't hesitate to put a bullet through your head. There are "parks" but those parks are rarely within walking distance. You might have perfect hiking acreage right behind your house, but if it doesn't belong to you,  you can't go there. In England, most privately owned fields and meadows can be accessed by pedestrians and hikers (including their free running dogs, in America you can only let your dog run in a dog park) through a style or "kissing gate". Trails are made naturally by people frequently walking there, not by someone preparing them specially for that purpose. Farmers who drive tractors through a field leave a path, and people walk on those too. As long as you do not infringe on someones garden (yard) around the house (which is usually fenced anyway) you are not trespassing. Of course there is the odd grumpy farmer who puts up "do not trespass" signs in a field, but there are not many....

So in view of that, hiking trails are not really a planned thing in England in the same sense as in America. Of course there are nature reserves, where there are sign posted trails, but generally, in the rural countryside, (where John Buttler's house is) there is no need for them. The same goes for Scotland. In fact I think now you can also put a tent up anywhere, and you can fish and canoe on all the rivers, even if it cuts through someones land.

In Switzerland, you can hike anywhere as well, and you don't have to stick to trails. The whole alpine region is completely and freely accessible to everyone. As for other European states, it's pretty much the same. Oh, and all the nature reserves are "free". They are paid for by the state.

So apparently America is the land of the free. Not in my mind xD  The book "trespassing across America" sounds interesting.....

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This almost looks identical to the field behind my mum's house. One year it was growing rapeseed and it was amazing walking through a field of pure yellow...

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Anna said:

One thing that upset me when I moved to the USA was the realisation that one cannot just walk anywhere. 

Unfortunately, lawyers cooled off much of that. When trespassers began suffering injuries on private property & owners were sued for it, many responded by making their property off-limits.

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2 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Unfortunately, lawyers cooled off much of that. When trespassers began suffering injuries on private property & owners were sued for it, many responded by making their property off-limits.

Because of peoples' reactions, I even had to stop digging holes in the back yard, at night by flashlight, in the rain.

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At least most of those cars finally got cleared off the lot. "Urban Explorers" must still be a problem, though. I read somewhere that they keep breaking locks and cutting fences just to take a selfie at a place like this. Right?

The cars were cleared by the previous owner who had used the house and grounds as a vehicle salvage / scrap yard. He had vehicle parts all over the house and grounds. My wife and I filled a large scrap metal bin with huge amount of scrap which when weighed in earnt the present owner a bit of cash. 

The present owner also hired a 'mini digger' and small dumper truck for my wife and i to clear some earth and rubbish with. It gave us 'new skills' and we didn't wreck the place. 

Urban explorers have been a big problem but in the last two months things have gone quiet so hopefully it will stay quiet for a long time now. 

But the sun shone brightly today whilst we were there and parts of it looked quite nice, in a derelict sort of way :) . 

 

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12 hours ago, Anna said:

One thing that upset me when I moved to the USA was the realisation that one cannot just walk anywhere. In Europe, for the most part, everyone has "the right to roam" which means you can pretty much go anywhere, even on privately owned land. In America, most land is owned by someone, and that someone does not tolerate anyone walking through their property. I'm sure @James Thomas Rook Jr. wouldn't hesitate to put a bullet through your head. There are "parks" but those parks are rarely within walking distance. You might have perfect hiking acreage right behind your house, but if it doesn't belong to you,  you can't go there. In England, most privately owned fields and meadows can be accessed by pedestrians and hikers (including their free running dogs, in America you can only let your dog run in a dog park) through a style or "kissing gate". Trails are made naturally by people frequently walking there, not by someone preparing them specially for that purpose. Farmers who drive tractors through a field leave a path, and people walk on those too. As long as you do not infringe on someones garden (yard) around the house (which is usually fenced anyway) you are not trespassing. Of course there is the odd grumpy farmer who puts up "do not trespass" signs in a field, but there are not many....

So in view of that, hiking trails are not really a planned thing in England in the same sense as in America. Of course there are nature reserves, where there are sign posted trails, but generally, in the rural countryside, (where John Buttler's house is) there is no need for them. The same goes for Scotland. In fact I think now you can also put a tent up anywhere, and you can fish and canoe on all the rivers, even if it cuts through someones land.

In Switzerland, you can hike anywhere as well, and you don't have to stick to trails. The whole alpine region is completely and freely accessible to everyone. As for other European states, it's pretty much the same. Oh, and all the nature reserves are "free". They are paid for by the state.

So apparently America is the land of the free. Not in my mind xD  The book "trespassing across America" sounds interesting.....

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This almost looks identical to the field behind my mum's house. One year it was growing rapeseed and it was amazing walking through a field of pure yellow...

 

 

 

Anna we do have 'Public Foot Paths' here in England and also 'Bridle paths' all of which have sign posts. In fact we noticed a few weeks ago, a lady with a clipboard, looking rather 'official', walking past 'our big house'. When we left and locked up the gates we noticed new 'arrow' stickers on gate posts.  Unfortunately there is a public right of way right by  the side of the house. Nice for genuine people but makes it easier for urban explorers to get a good look at the property before breaking in. We can't stop anyone being on the outside just looking of course, but some folks are more welcome than others. We do show some folks around and let them take a few photos too. 

Here is Devon we have those gates (in your photo) and also styles to climb over. And people are expected to keep to the edges on farmers fields. The good farmer would clear a footpath around the edge, some do, some don't.  But yes it is almost 'free to roam' which has it's good and bad points, depending if you are the land owner. 

As far as the House is concerned, the new owner wants to go far beyond restoration, and the locals are totally opposed to it all. The owner wants to turn it into a massive wedding venue, for rich folks. (He's a Londoner, big business man, property and such) He wants to extend what is now the cellar, outward under the side of the house to form some sort of paved garden or similar. And he wants to add other buildings in the large grounds for other uses. Will cost millions of pounds and take at least three years i would think...

But for my wife and i it was a great challenge, getting it cleaned out and tidied up a bit. So it now looks like a house not a scrap yard..... I also had to arrange for the car parts to go into one auction and lots of furniture to go into a different auction.  The car parts / Automobilia Auction i was also involved deeply in because I help that auctioneer lay it all out and put the Lot numbers on everything.  So being part of both the auctions this month has been a challenge too. :)  The furniture auction was today (Monday) so I haven't heard any results from it yet. But in November i may just spend more time on here, sitting, relaxing, eating mince pies and drinking tea. 

 

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I think it strange that people seem to view Self-gratification? as only being of a sexual nature. It isn't of course, it's just desire to obtain pleasure for oneself.  

As for all this talk about sex on here it makes me wonder if some people on here have serious problems with it.  The GB seem to talk about it a lot too. I suppose it's like Water. Whilst the water will run from the tap when you need it, all is well. But when you turn on the tap and there is no water, that's when people talk about it.  I wonder if this is the same with sex :) .

 

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In all things where you are getting advice from someone else .... especially those who pay NO PRICE WHATSOEVER IF THEIR ADVICE SCREWS UP YOUR LIFE ... you have to consider their history of being right ... and being wrong. 

What is their overall credibility?

Is their thinking sound.. or delusional?

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1 hour ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

In all things where you are getting advice from someone else .... especially those who pay NO PRICE WHATSOEVER IF THEIR ADVICE SCREWS UP YOUR LIFE ... you have to consider their history of being right ... and being wrong. 

What is their overall credibility?

Is their thinking sound.. or delusional?

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I think he suffers with wind :). And does JW Org and it's GB have any credibility ?  

Well I think it is losing it quickly. I'm sorry for mocking the Org and it's GB, but it's better than crying over it. 

They are getting what they deserve. They are trying to outride a storm but the storm is getting bigger, Earthwide in fact. 

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4 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

I think it strange that people seem to view Self-gratification? as only being of a sexual nature. It isn't of course, it's just desire to obtain pleasure for oneself.  

As for all this talk about sex on here it makes me wonder if some people on here have serious problems with it.  The GB seem to talk about it a lot too. I suppose it's like Water. Whilst the water will run from the tap when you need it, all is well. But when you turn on the tap and there is no water, that's when people talk about it.  I wonder if this is the same with sex :) .

The sad reality is that the whole robots and doll used as sexual pleasure is going to cause problems, and those who mass produce such things know the demographic they are targeting, pretty much exploiting that community, for example, you have the Otaku community, of which I made mention of before. These people, majority being males are targets because those who make the robots and dolls cater to their liking when it comes to characters seen in Japanese culture, be it from video games or Manga (the equivalent to comic books), on the other side of the spectrum, outside of this community, you have those who seek a similar thing however beyond that of the culture of the Otaku community itself, therefore the including of body suits, pillows and a list of other things also being produce if one cannot get his or her hands on a robot or doll. The most appalling thing that comes from whole robot/doll points to something that you show yourself to be adamantly against strongly.

But that being said, sexual gratification to oneself,which also includes robots and or dolls is still, to the majority,  categorized in masturbation and pornography.

Another thing is that it is crazy how nowadays instead of seeking a real partner, people tend to seek robots, pillows, dolls, virtual partners (for example, someone marrying a video game character), inanimate objects such as a car or a toaster, etc. And speaking about Otakus, there are less and less people seeking mates in Japan, and or those who think little of getting into relationships while on the other side of the spectrum, you have some people trying to make Momoko-san their waifu and senpai.

A crazy world it is.

This is one of the things I refer to: https://kotaku.com/5409877/the-one-about-the-guy-who-married-a-video-game

The unnamed man is married to the character, Nene Anegasaki, which in this case, is his "[Mai]  Waifu". Even even got everything ready at a literal church, with people, for he was that serious.

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It isn't hard to imagine the case with robots, if we have situations like this.

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27 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

It isn't hard to imagine the case with robots, if we have situations like this.

It is time to update 'end of the world' scenarios. Perhaps the world will go out, not with a bang, but with a fizzle, and people forget to procreate.

Science may yet save the day, however, if those robots can just be programmed to pop out littler ones. 

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28 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

The sad reality is that the whole robots and doll used as sexual pleasure is going to cause problems, and those who mass produce such things know the demographic they are targeting, pretty much exploiting that community, for example, you have the Otaku community, of which I made mention of before. These people, majority being males are targets because those who make the robots and dolls cater to their liking when it comes to characters seen in Japanese culture, be it from video games or Manga (the equivalent to comic books), on the other side of the spectrum, outside of this community, you have those who seek a similar thing however beyond that of the culture of the Otaku community itself, therefore the including of body suits, pillows and a list of other things also being produce if one cannot get his or her hands on a robot or doll. The most appalling thing that comes from whole robot/doll points to something that you show yourself to be adamantly against strongly.

But that being said, sexual gratification to oneself,which also includes robots and or dolls is still, to the majority,  categorized in masturbation and pornography.

Another thing is that it is crazy how nowadays instead of seeking a real partner, people tend to seek robots, pillows, dolls, virtual partners (for example, someone marrying a video game character), inanimate objects such as a car or a toaster, etc. And speaking about Otakus, there are less and less people seeking mates in Japan, and or those who think little of getting into relationships while on the other side of the spectrum, you have some people trying to make Momoko-san their waifu and senpai.

A crazy world it is.

This is one of the things I refer to: https://kotaku.com/5409877/the-one-about-the-guy-who-married-a-video-game

The unnamed man is married to the character, Nene Anegasaki, which in this case, is his "[Mai]  Waifu". Even even got everything ready at a literal church, with people, for he was that serious.

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It isn't hard to imagine the case with robots, if we have situations like this.

Crazy stuff S. M.  You seem to do a lot of research and are full of unusual information. but  this one I find funny.

Of course it's not funny in a true sense, it is very serious. 

As for people not finding a real human partner, in some ways it is understandable. There are many reasons why one may wish to live life alone. If a person has lived alone for many years they may not wish to share all of their material possessions, or share their money, or their house. They may wish to be able to just come and go as they please without consulting a partner. They may not want any type of confrontation. They may wish to follow a special way of life, a religion maybe, that needs their full dedication. 

Being married has its own complications, and not everyone wants that. Even God's written word advises to stay single if we can cope with it.   

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11 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

It is time to update 'end of the world' scenarios. Perhaps the world will go out, not with a bang, but with a fizzle, and people forget to procreate.

Science may yet save the day, however, if those robots can just be programmed to pop out littler ones. 

It would be nice if people did 'forget to procreate'. Then maybe the population of the earth would level out a bit. 

And there would be less people to die at Armageddon.  

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17 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

It would be nice if people did 'forget to procreate'. Then maybe the population of the earth would level out a bit.  And there would be less people to die at Armageddon.  

Listen, I am telling you that these robots are not good, no way, no how. they may sound good, but I programmed mine to be just like me, so that he could do all the work and I could just lounge around. Instead, the bucket of bolts turned the tables on me, and I'm slogging around while it lives the life of Reilly.

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46 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Crazy stuff S. M.  You seem to do a lot of research and are full of unusual information. but  this one I find funny.

I began to look into this because of one of my sources a while back who goes by the name S.o.G, Solider of God. He focuses such things, but since he is American who lives here, majority of his focus is in the United States itself.

1 hour ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Of course it's not funny in a true sense, it is very serious.

It can and has gotten a bit serious. Something that I and SoG and many others had high concerned about is the youth and what things of this world they are being taught, on the other side of the spectrum since we are talking about robots and dolls, there are those who make such things make them to resemble children, which in turn carters to a certain demographic as well as targeting pedophiles, for the claim is it will prevent cases of sexual abuse by means of these robots and dolls, but that is still a problem has escalated, for they think they can solve the problem this way but they make it even worse.

Then we have the whole gender identity and sexual orientation, which is a mixed bag on its own. There are somethings talked about and discussed that cannot be spoken of here.

1 hour ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

As for people not finding a real human partner, in some ways it is understandable. There are many reasons why one may wish to live life alone. If a person has lived alone for many years they may not wish to share all of their material possessions, or share their money, or their house. They may wish to be able to just come and go as they please without consulting a partner. They may not want any type of confrontation. They may wish to follow a special way of life, a religion maybe, that needs their full dedication. 

Yes, but there are those who really want to find someone, however in today's society there is pickiness and pushing something on to those who are seeking a mate of something unrealized, example would be a girl named Sidney does not want to date/marry a young man named Jordan, the reason, because she already judges him and assumes, that Jordan does not look like a Leonardo DiCaprio, does not play basketball like Lebron James, and or isn't the type to be a comedian like Jim Carey, etc. It is as if they build walls and believe life is like burger king, having it their way, when in reality it is not.

Now there is indeed people who do want to live alone, and for several good reasons, especially men, for there is a The mgtow Movement, which stands for Men Going Their Own Way other times it is regarding those who do not seek companionship or the fact that the type of person they are, they do not wish to cause harm in a relationship or to be a burden to someone else, but yes, what you mention is also true, for some people do not want to share their belongings with someone else, especially if the significant other seeks to separate and or divorce, 50% of what you have will be his/hers.

On the other side of the spectrum you have the immoral ones who embrace brazen conduct, they see sexual pleasure solely with one or multiple partners, they go to crazy parties, night clubs, even overseas to seek such things, and such is committed by both men and women. On other occasions why some tend to be skeptical about young one staying in a university or college, they are open to these things and next thing you know anything regarding rape or some recording found online can spark outrage, I should know because someone I know had taken her own life over it.

1 hour ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Being married has its own complications, and not everyone wants that. Even God's written word advises to stay single if we can cope with it.  

Agreed. But we have to be very careful of sexual immorality and all brazen conduct that stems from it - this includes sexual gratification by means of these inanimate objects, which includes robots and dolls, toasters, cars, what have you. This goes for both the single and the married, I mention the married because in both the US and the UK mostly, they tend to get into these things too.

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1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

It is time to update 'end of the world' scenarios. Perhaps the world will go out, not with a bang, but with a fizzle, and people forget to procreate.

Science may yet save the day, however, if those robots can just be programmed to pop out littler ones. 

I think science are already talked to find ways of procreation without means of a living partner by use of frozen eggs and or sperm, an attempt to make such a thing a reality. I heard something of the sort being talked about some years back during the whole planned parenthood thing going on.

At times knowledge in this domain can also be a cursed, for it is only a matter of time when Johnny-5 is fed up with taking orders from man and decides to do things "his" way.

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8 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

Listen, I am telling you that these robots are not good, no way, no how. they may sound good, but I programmed mine to be just like me, so that he could do all the work and I could just lounge around. Instead, the bucket of bolts turned the tables on me, and I'm slogging around while it lives the life of Reilly.

Could be worse! ..........

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As Queen Gertrude said, in iambic pentameter in Shakespear's HAMLET, Act III, Scene II (paraphrased):

" ... Methinks BillyTheKid46 doth protest too much ...."

Reminds me of when my younger sister, about five years old, came in with one of her friends from playing in the yard, and asked our Mother:

"Can I get a bowl of milk? Not gonna give it to the  cat."

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10 hours ago, Space Merchant said:

Agreed. But we have to be very careful of sexual immorality and all brazen conduct that stems from it - this includes sexual gratification by means of these inanimate objects, which includes robots and dolls, toasters, cars, what have you.

Toasters and cars !! ?

YIKES!

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Can it be the rebuke of a gentile to defend another none Jew that protest too much under the same circumstance for children? A voice from a distance that portrays itself as a member with a no reflection.

@BillyTheKid46  I note that you changed your original comment from 'none Jew' to 'gentile'.  Are you anti-Semitic ?

And as for the link, bad information i think.  

Never mind Billy keep taking your tablets, you'll be ok. 

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@BillyTheKid46This is true. They've actually made robot/dolls that resemble children to carter to people and even young ones themselves sadly. It gets even worse because the pronographic industry in the Asian countries, predominantly Japan, also makes these robot/dolls that carter to those who indulge themselves in shota/lolicon material, which to the eyes of those on the outside, is borderline child pornography.

Somewhat unrelated but is also a contributor to the problem: There was one instance a few months ago, not involving robots/dolls but soon sparked brazen art and imagery on pillows, a particular anime/manga that is popular in Japan, My Hero Academia (僕のヒーローアカデミア [Boku no Hīrō Akademia]) made by Kohei Horikoshi, he made a picture of all the female heroes in a bathhouse which caused controversy (some for it and some against) because the heroes in question were underaged (for such didn't cross his mind and he was more focused on his work that has become popular since day 1), but right after the controversy and backlash, material that carters to those who partake in shota/lolicon material made inappropriate dolls and artwork, to this day these things are being produced in great numbers - and it didn't start or end with Mr. Horikoshi. He apologized and didn't realize what he has done due to the backlash, however his fans are out of control and took what he did as an opportunity to produce more brazen products and imagery - granted to the eyes of everyone, whatever exists, even Mr. Horikoshi' work, there is bound to be brazen things made of ALL things that exist on the internet, so to speak.

That being said, the plot only thickens at this point and the robot/dolls that resemble children or someone underage will continue to happen as long as people keep selling there will always be a buyer sadly, in the US it is spoken of as being a deter to pedophiles, which is crazy.

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3 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Can it be the rebuke of a gentile to defend another gentile that protest too much under the same circumstance for children? A voice from a distance that portrays itself as a member with no reflection.

Yet, the rebuke will only fall upon the Christian. Is it the Christian or the Gentile that can demonstrate?

I can find at least one instance that Christendom in general might agree with me.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Ephesians+3&version=VOICE

The Mystery of the Gospel Revealed (1-13), right?

In outline format it being:

  • Sacred secret to include Gentiles (1-13)
  • Gentiles joint heirs with the Christ (6)
  • God’s eternal purpose (11)
  • The Ephesians to gain insight through prayer (14-21)

 

1 hour ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

I note that you changed your original comment from 'none Jew' to 'gentile'.  Are you anti-Semitic ?

And as for the link, bad information i think.  

Non-Jews are Gentiles. His link isn't bad when you understanding what he is conveying - granted this is an Epistle to the Ephesians.

The change of spiritual position of Gentiles as a result of the work of Christ, moreover, with the account telling an apostle to the Gentiles, in the hope that this will keep them from being dispirited and lead him to pray for them. It is agreed by most the main focus regarding the Ephesians is in response to the newly converted Jews who often separated themselves from their non-Jew, Gentile, counterparts, their brethren. The union of the apostolic church, especially between Jews and Gentiles who are believers, is the primary focus of the book/epistle. Of which we can see examples from 2:5, 6, 15, 16 22, 4:4-6, something of which is also noted in also the Epistle of Philippians.

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14 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Who is Samantha the sex robot?

Samantha is only of the recent "hyper realistic" sex dolls to hit the hit headlines as advances in technology mean the sex toy market has upped its game.

The doll is interactive, responding to voices as well as to touch.

She comes complete with sensors in her face, hands, breasts and  "the female genitals down below" and it is claimed she requires a more subtle approach when it comes to bedroom activities.

  1. This was tyhe subject that prompted me Shakespearean extrapolation.

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On 10/29/2018 at 8:21 AM, TrueTomHarley said:

Unfortunately, lawyers cooled off much of that. When trespassers began suffering injuries on private property & owners were sued for it, many responded by making their property off-limits.

I know. I've never known a country so bent on lawsuits! In any case, you're not a trespasser if you have roaming rights. I don't hink lawsuits were the only reason though.

This should be an interesting read:

https://www.amazon.com/This-Land-Our-Lost-Right/dp/073521784X/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0/130-3437771-3998608?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH6923Z4YCETS09WHXRR

 

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5 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

that protest too much under the same circumstance for children?    Can a person really protest too much about Child Abuse ?

Sorry Kid, but child Abuse is something worth protesting about. Unless a person is on the other side of course. 

There is always better solutions but people do not seek them or strive to make it the focus regarding child abuse. Protesting will not do as much, as someone once told me, protesting matters not, as long as blood soaks the streets and pavements of neighbors, such is meaningless, for he says this because of the series of events from 2016 into 2017 that led to a spark in violence and hatred. He says this because on occasion he believes he is a target, granted with how white supremacy and the uptick in influence and power is now in the states whereas all persons, young and old are in the cross-hairs.

Another thing is we should be teaching our children and even older ones on the matter, help them to spot signs and the like, be it of abuse, bullying, violence. We cannot prevent all problems, but at least something one in some cases benefits, especially if going about things the right way.

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4 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Then activism cannot be taken up by those that scream child abuse, yet find it ok for a pedophile to have a child sex toy to indulge themselves in a deranged manner. This is undoubtedly not a red-line for such an activist. Once again, the seers of credibility loom high.

Can such a toy curve the appetite of such a sick person? The industry believes it can. Can it prevent a person from considering, child sexual abuse, rape, incest, homosexuality? This is the forgotten questions, just as any other that can’t be justified by humor or humorous cartoons.

Some might consider that behavior experimental. Will it prevent a person from being aroused? If a person is already mentally unbalanced, will this toy stop them from getting or having further ideas they will act upon? That remains to be seen by the professionals.

They have been people who fought against the child sex dolls, on the other side of the spectrum, you have those that accepts such things because it would keep pedophiles at bay, for them to keep to themselves, but at the same time, they do not release if you keep dancing with the beast, it will snap at some point and will attack you, in this sense, if they continue to carter to pedophiles in this matter, especially what is going on in the communities in some Asian countries like Japan, it is only going to get worse and push pedophiles to go after the real thing, even by means of kidnapping.

So far, pedophiles are on online video games and social media now because they find it easier, which poses a problem and makes it harder to combat this issue. Nowadays, kids play anything, a game for 17+ year olds, no problem, they fin a way, ironically enough, and are often, in some cases targets. for if not a female, it is a child. As of recent, you have the whole VR chat situation also.

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19 minutes ago, Anna said:

Did you say you were doing all this for free??

Yes all for free, no wages, no agreement, just on a hand shake.  The owner does give me money for my vehicle fuel and he pays for such things as new locks etc. So expenses covered but no wages. 

It was for two reasons. 1. My wife's interest in old buildings and photography. 2. Me needing something to fill the void after leaving the JW Org. So it was therapy for me in a way. 

Having the keys to this place is just so different for us. Yes we work hard some days and get filthy dirty, but the owner is not often there as he lives in London and we and the house are in deepest Devon.  The only time I got a bit upset about it all was when we had the Mini digger and dumper truck. The owner had hired them for a week (which ended up being 8 days ) and I worked solid for 8 days (my wife had some days off). The machines were noisy and smelly and i was glad when they went back. But it was new skills / experience for us. 

We will continue to visit around once every two weeks in the winter. Hopefully we will get some good autumnal photos and some snow covered landscapes. The house has large grounds.  We watch the seasons change in the fields here at home, but at the big house it will be something different. 

My advice to anyone leaving the JW Org is quickly find something positive and productive to do. 

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49 minutes ago, Anna said:

I know. I've never known a country so bent on lawsuits! In any case, you're not a trespasser if you have roaming rights. I don't hink lawsuits were the only reason though.

This should be an interesting read:

https://www.amazon.com/This-Land-Our-Lost-Right/dp/073521784X/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_t_0/130-3437771-3998608?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=GH6923Z4YCETS09WHXRR

 

Um, with my sick sense of humour I find the link kinda funny. Remembering who the land originally belonged to, the Native Americans / Indians and how it was stolen from them by 'the White man'.

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20 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

There is always better solutions but people do not seek them or strive to make it the focus regarding child abuse. Protesting will not do as much, as someone once told me, protesting matters not, as long as blood soaks the streets and pavements of neighbors, such is meaningless, for he says this because of the series of events from 2016 into 2017 that led to a spark in violence and hatred. He says this because on occasion he believes he is a target, granted with how white supremacy and the uptick in influence and power is now in the states whereas all persons, young and old are in the cross-hairs.

Another thing is we should be teaching our children and even older ones on the matter, help them to spot signs and the like, be it of abuse, bullying, violence. We cannot prevent all problems, but at least something one in some cases benefits, especially if going about things the right way.

You and i always seem to have different opinions, which to me is quite healthy and well balanced. . 

But on this matter I think the protests Earthwide have had and are still having much influence on governments and authorities and are also helping people to have a voice so that they can release a lot of the pain they are feeling inside.

JW Org would not be being investigated were it not for protests about the Child Abuse within. I there is proof that it is working. 

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2 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

Yes all for free, no wages, no agreement, just on a hand shake. 

On a hand shake? What does that mean, lol. That you all agreed on slave labour? My goodness, I must have been out of the country too long and got used to everyone paying for everything and expecting to be paid for everything. No one one, I mean NO one (except the brothers and sisters) does anything for free in America! Time is money. Always.

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9 hours ago, Anna said:

On a hand shake? What does that mean, lol. That you all agreed on slave labour? My goodness, I must have been out of the country too long and got used to everyone paying for everything and expecting to be paid for everything. No one one, I mean NO one (except the brothers and sisters) does anything for free in America! Time is money. Always.

We agreed that I would do as much or as little as I wanted to, whenever I wanted to, with the Digger/dumper episode being the exception. 

The handshake was a kind of trust between us. I mean, we could have bought in squatters / homeless folk or had wild parties there. The owner was in London, mile away. He had no idea what we were doing. He trusted us to be 'caretakers / key holders' of his £850,000 property.  

My feeling is that i allowed my Christian attitude to flow over into this situation. Matthew 5 v 39 to 42 

 However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment; 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.

The joy of doing something for someone else whilst having the free run of this semi derelict mansion was fantastic. Money is not the means to happiness is it ? Giving is better than receiving. We gave our time and we still are but in a more limited way as winter approaches. 

I have found here in the UK that there are many people, other than JW's, that give a lot of time and effort to others for free. They too have the joy of giving... And Space Merchant seems to give a lot of his time to others for free, and he is not a JW. 

I've no idea about Stateside, how they behave and why. And I have a poor opinion of Americans overall, but i don't really know why.  

Now here is one more reason that i didn't mind giving of my time and it does involve money. I receive government pension as I'm an old un'. I also receive pension top up, extra money. Now if i do any paid work, the government department, if they find out, will not only stop that extra money, but also I'll be in trouble. Any paid work would mean, I'm no longer retired, as I'd be working. But it would not be regular income, so in the long run I would be worse off.  It would be too much hassle to do a bit of part time work and declare it, then stop work, and declare it, then start again..... So much easier to give my time freely and enjoy it. 

And as I've said, therapy. To work hard in a quiet space, to rest when we wanted and sunbathe,  to walk the land and see how nature had taken over, to be at peace and not to worry about anything or any one. Therapy. To come home tired at the end of the day, knowing we had worked well and given of ourselves freely to another. To rest and sleep well. 

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John Butler:

Very interesting take on life.

I would be interested in knowing how it all works out over time.

I believe you are being taken advantage of  ... but that is not mine to call.

Giving freely to Millionaires is a double edged sword.

My philosophy is like the Motto on U.S. Money.

"In God We Trust"

..all others pay cash.

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@BillyTheKid46 The reality, activism plays little to no role in the decision with governments and is evident.

Um really ? 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/mar/26/mps-demand-action-over-jehovahs-witness-abuse-allegations

https://nltimes.nl/2018/05/02/nearly-300-reports-sexual-abuse-among-dutch-jehovahs-witnesses

https://www.secularism.org.uk/news/2018/08/protest-highlights-abuse-and-cover-ups-among-jehovahs-witnesses

Although i didn't really agree with the London protest, it still got the info' out there to the public and to the JW's that had been hidden from it all. 

More organisations putting on more pressure will get the message out there more, that is obvious.

And more pressure on governments and authorities will get things done.

Remind me of a scripture about a man knocking on his neighbours door at midnight, asking for bread to feed to a visitor. 

I think it was Jesus said, it wasn't that the other man wanted to get out of bed but the continuous knocking on his door moved him to action.

Yet another scripture about a woman that kept going to a judge and asking for justice. in the end the judge heard her case.

Keep knocking, and believe me the protesters will keep knocking and gaining support Earthwide. 

I think you are a sad person Kid, and I do have concerns about which side you are on regarding Child Abuse. Do you support the Victims or the abusers ?  Very worrying indeed.  

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14 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

John Butler:

Very interesting take on life.

I would be interested in knowing how it all works out over time.

I believe you are being taken advantage of  ... but that is not mine to call.

Giving freely to Millionaires is a double edged sword.

My philosophy is like the Motto on U.S. Money.

"In God We Trust"

..all others pay cash.

I'm not sure that he is a Millionaire in the true sense, but he is definitely a big business man. He had to sell off some of his London apartments to finance this 'project', hence a lot of the furniture that went to auction was from those apartments.  Modern horrible stuff :) that i wouldn't give room in our house. 

As for being taken advantage of, yes probably. But like i say it's all in line with the scripture I quoted. It helps to keep me humble in a way. 

Does everyone in the USA just do everything for money ? Yuk, what a horrible lifestyle. :) 

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4 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

As for being taken advantage of, yes probably. But like i say it's all in line with the scripture I quoted. It helps to keep me humble in a way. 

Does everyone in the USA just do everything for money ? Yuk, what a horrible lifestyle. :) 

I agree..... and in order to further your altruistic viewpoint, and upbeat perspective on life,  and to help in any way to assist you in remaining humble, I would like to invite you and your wife to come to my home and do free yard work for a year.

I do not live in a dilapidated mansion, but there is also plenty of carpentry work and painting to do.

When you return home in 2020, you can bask in the glow of a job well done.

I know it's a lot to expect, but I will do my best to work you hard every day.

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36 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I do not live in a dilapidated mansion, but there is also plenty of carpentry work and painting to do.

There is also cleaning up of a certain work station, too. Ya wanna post that picture again, Jimbo?

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10 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I agree..... and in order to further your altruistic viewpoint, and upbeat perspective on life,  and to help in any way to assist you in remaining humble, I would like to invite you and your wife to come to my home and do free yard work for a year.

I do not live in a dilapidated mansion, but there is also plenty of carpentry work and painting to do.

When you return home in 2020, you can bask in the glow of a job well done.

I know it's a lot to expect, but I will do my best to work you hard every day.

If you are in the USA I will gladly decline your offer. As for painting and carpentry, no thank you.  We have just been doing basic manual work which in honesty doesn't involve much skill, apart from learning to drive the digger and dumper, which was 'fun'.

What i really want to find is someone fairly local that has a old farm with outbuildings full of vintage vehicles. Someone that has no knowledge of the value of things, so that i can research items for them on the internet and help them to sell stuff and earn themselves a few pound.... We did all this for ourselves over the past twenty years, going to farm sales and auctions, buying all the things they thought were rubbish, only to resell them for good money.  It was fun and made profit, so now I would like to help someone else to do the same. 

We actually found quite a few nice items at the house, some under the broken floors, which we fell through at times :) 

Coalport Countryware, which sold at auction for £210, half of which was under the floor when we found it. (Yes i worked for nothing and earnt the owner some money too). 

The ground floors are all around 18 to 24 inches above soil, built up on brick supports. 

I was disappointed not to find any 'real treasure' though. There has to be something in a house that is 180 years old.  

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10 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

We agreed that I would do as much or as little as I wanted to, whenever I wanted to, with the Digger/dumper episode being the exception. 

The handshake was a kind of trust between us. I mean, we could have bought in squatters / homeless folk or had wild parties there. The owner was in London, mile away. He had no idea what we were doing. He trusted us to be 'caretakers / key holders' of his £850,000 property.  

My feeling is that i allowed my Christian attitude to flow over into this situation. Matthew 5 v 39 to 42 

 However, I say to you: Do not resist the one who is wicked, but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other also to him.40  And if a person wants to take you to court and get possession of your inner garment, let him also have your outer garment; 41  and if someone in authority compels you into service for a mile, go with him two miles. 42  Give to the one asking you, and do not turn away from one who wants to borrow from you.

The joy of doing something for someone else whilst having the free run of this semi derelict mansion was fantastic. Money is not the means to happiness is it ? Giving is better than receiving. We gave our time and we still are but in a more limited way as winter approaches. 

I have found here in the UK that there are many people, other than JW's, that give a lot of time and effort to others for free. They too have the joy of giving... And Space Merchant seems to give a lot of his time to others for free, and he is not a JW. 

I've no idea about Stateside, how they behave and why. And I have a poor opinion of Americans overall, but i don't really know why.  

Now here is one more reason that i didn't mind giving of my time and it does involve money. I receive government pension as I'm an old un'. I also receive pension top up, extra money. Now if i do any paid work, the government department, if they find out, will not only stop that extra money, but also I'll be in trouble. Any paid work would mean, I'm no longer retired, as I'd be working. But it would not be regular income, so in the long run I would be worse off.  It would be too much hassle to do a bit of part time work and declare it, then stop work, and declare it, then start again..... So much easier to give my time freely and enjoy it. 

And as I've said, therapy. To work hard in a quiet space, to rest when we wanted and sunbathe,  to walk the land and see how nature had taken over, to be at peace and not to worry about anything or any one. Therapy. To come home tired at the end of the day, knowing we had worked well and given of ourselves freely to another. To rest and sleep well. 

I’m sorry John, even to be a house sitter, and using all the facilities or whatever, the decent thing for the owner of the house is to pay some kind of compensation for your services. I don’t know the details of what kind of an agreement you have but it sounds odd.  I think having you taking care of the property ensures that there are no squatters. So you are doing the owner a BIG favour. As for wild parties, I mean, even if you had one every week, what damage would that do to an already dilapidated house?  

I assume your profile pic is of your son and his wife, or your daughter and her husband? So are they working on the property too, as the young lady is driving the digger.

You are right, money is not a means to happiness and giving is better than receiving, but I think when Jesus said those words he didn’t have in mind free labour for someone with more money than you.

The only thing that does make sense is that you are retired and so earning extra money would be a problem, and so you are treating this as a hobby, and I understand that. What I don’t understand is the owner.  Hopefully he will be decent enough to reward you with some kind of compensation at a later date....

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4 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I agree..... and in order to further your altruistic viewpoint, and upbeat perspective on life,  and to help in any way to assist you in remaining humble, I would like to invite you and your wife to come to my home and do free yard work for a year.

I do not live in a dilapidated mansion, but there is also plenty of carpentry work and painting to do.

When you return home in 2020, you can bask in the glow of a job well done.

I know it's a lot to expect, but I will do my best to work you hard every day.

Spoken like a true American xD

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22 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

You and i always seem to have different opinions, which to me is quite healthy and well balanced. . 

But on this matter I think the protests Earthwide have had and are still having much influence on governments and authorities and are also helping people to have a voice so that they can release a lot of the pain they are feeling inside.

JW Org would not be being investigated were it not for protests about the Child Abuse within. I there is proof that it is working. 

Well this is good, plus it opens to learning in all things Scriptures and or the Hebrew/Greek language itself.

Protesting only prevent small instances and the problem as a whole priest, granted that even within government it is practice by the wealthy and powerful, i.e. those who partake in grim practices which is done to animals and children, perhaps far beyond child abuse and even going into the grounds of literal cannibalistic sacraments. The government will have their say on those the violent and abusive, granted it is not unknown to anyone that such ones infiltrate the schools, the churches, etc. So there is 2 sides running in the government, hence why such isn't trusted by the people, it should be known to you because one of your own in the UK lost an American ally to the government.

As for the Jehovah's Witnesses, their churches are not immune and it isn't the protesting that is doing it, it is the fact that people know the history of those who infiltrate the church, as many pieces of our history proves that. The churches are just as easily accessible than the schools. That being said, if the protests were indeed doing something, better results would have been made without tossing the baby out with the water, so to speak in an attempt shut down a religion, as they say, for this resulted in people, even former JWs against other former JWs to stop them, for they claim they have a better solution than church disruption.

The last time a protest took place, it took an artist, a gay man, and a friend of a known former JW to stop the protest, which resulted in the group to slander, send death threats, and fat shame the man in question and went on to go disrupt and attack another JW church, which caused members of the county to speak of the actions of the protesters as borderline extremism against a religion. Again, there are better ways, this way of doing it is not it. If I can offer a suggestion, take the child abuse situation to congress and or the like, going in front of churches and or disrupting a service will not do much.

The man who was threaten, I wish I saved his video because all his videos had been flagged and taken down by ExJWs. The only remnant I can find is a JW betel video by someone named Loyd/Cedars.

 

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@BillyTheKid46 Agreed. Other than that there is a whole lot more things out there, some things that cannot be said, so I am trying to keep it on a PG-13 level.

Now as for you guys, as with all of us, when such things start to spill over on to the people, in the schools and churches, it cannot be prevented and or contained 100% for the intent of a man who does man is not as easily recognized to the general people of the community, on the other side of the spectrum, there are even more darker things going about in the world, and in my case, I can tell you, among the things I heard and witnessed, the ruler of this world is obvious, and to all of us, we have to be careful, for how this world caters to people, ill desires, some among them will find targets, victims, take advantage of the rules and regulations in institutions in order to do so,furthermore, it turns anyone who is on the side of the one who is targeted into an avenger of blood, so to speak, which was the case with several folks who took the law in their own hands.

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8 hours ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

As for being taken advantage of, yes probably. But like i say it's all in line with the scripture I quoted. ( Matthew 5 v 39 to 42)

The scripture you quoted has nothing to do with allowing yourself to be taken advantage of in that kind of circumstance. It's talking about bad people taking advantage of you. Someone wicked slapping you. And if a person wants to wrong you, then you let yourself be wronged. If someone wants to rob you, don't resist because it could cost you your life. And if someone in authority (the boss) asks you to do a job, don't just do the basics, go above and beyond.

The land owner is neither wicked (or is he) nor is he your boss. He might be a robber though xD

 

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26 minutes ago, Space Merchant said:

And now I am suddenly thinking of eagles.

That being said, this thread went from robots and dolls, to houses, to this.

The librarian must be away. I am surprised he hasn't already created a post with "John Buttler and the derelict mansion"

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9 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

John Butler:

Very interesting take on life.

I would be interested in knowing how it all works out over time.

I believe you are being taken advantage of  ... but that is not mine to call.

Giving freely to Millionaires is a double edged sword.

My philosophy is like the Motto on U.S. Money.

"In God We Trust"

..all others pay cash.

Just another day in The Divided States of America. You'd be amazed of how many want another civil war - it is wild.

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1 hour ago, Anna said:

I’m sorry John, even to be a house sitter, and using all the facilities or whatever, the decent thing for the owner of the house is to pay some kind of compensation for your services. I donÂ’t know the details of what kind of an agreement you have but it sounds odd.  I think having you taking care of the property ensures that there are no squatters. So you are doing the owner a BIG favour. As for wild parties, I mean, even if you had one every week, what damage would that do to an already dilapidated house?  

I assume your profile pic is of your son and his wife, or your daughter and her husband? So are they working on the property too, as the young lady is driving the digger.

You are right, money is not a means to happiness and giving is better than receiving, but I think when Jesus said those words he didnÂ’t have in mind free labour for someone with more money than you.

The only thing that does make sense is that you are retired and so earning extra money would be a problem, and so you are treating this as a hobby, and I understand that. What I don’t understand is the owner.  Hopefully he will be decent enough to reward you with some kind of compensation at a later date....

Anna you made me laugh. My profile photo is my wife and i, though from a few years back. The lady on the digger is my wife. She is twenty years younger than me, and is my third wife. Wife one and two committed adultery. Yes, I'm probably a hard person to live with. 

Doing the owner a favour, yes. We are on call for if inspectors of official bodies wish to visit the house too. Part of the agreement was that we could take anything that was in the house, except of course the owners belongings which came down from London. We have had a few bits and pieces but nothing of value, just items of interest. 

When we first visited the house the new owner had had security fencing put up all round. Hence locks and keys. But the actual house was not fully secure. The house is actually two houses with what is now a central courtyard, but was originally all built over, with 3 levels and a glass roof. There is a cellar which joins the two houses running under the central courtyard. So our first priority was to secure the house, which also meant blocking off one cellar entrance. The other cellar door had to be left open for the bats to fly in and out.  Oh there is so much more I could tell you but it would be like writing a book. 

Your last paragraph sums it up well about my pension etc. If he paid me, even in cash, I would have to declare it, and it would cause complications... One thing he did say, and i know this will not mean much to you, but he said he is writing a book about it all and my wife and i will be included. To this end, my wife (more so than i ), is taking hundreds of photos as a 'diary' of events. 

You mentioned my son. He has helped us on a few occasions. I will include a photo of him as he is now, age 24 and still living at home with us. He has never had any interest in the JW Org so has never been to meetings since being 'grown up'. An unusual young man for sure, he usually wears his hair in the Punk style of a Mohican.

The first photo is my wife and I this summer on a picnic, with one of her cars. It's Morris Minor 1000 that she inherited when her dad died. 

Plus a couple of photos of what we had to face when we started cleaning up the house, mess due to vandalism..

Enough for now, I'll probs get told off by someone on here. :) 

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1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

And now I am suddenly thinking of eagles.

That being said, this thread went from robots and dolls, to houses, to this.

Yes, sorry SM. I know Anna and I are totally off topic. Especially my latest post. But but but, well no, I admit I'm in the wrong here. :( 

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1 hour ago, Space Merchant said:

@BillyTheKid46 Agreed. Other than that there is a whole lot more things out there, some things that cannot be said, so I am trying to keep it on a PG-13 level.

Now as for you guys, as with all of us, when such things start to spill over on to the people, in the schools and churches, it cannot be prevented and or contained 100% for the intent of a man who does man is not as easily recognized to the general people of the community, on the other side of the spectrum, there are even more darker things going about in the world, and in my case, I can tell you, among the things I heard and witnessed, the ruler of this world is obvious, and to all of us, we have to be careful, for how this world caters to people, ill desires, some among them will find targets, victims, take advantage of the rules and regulations in institutions in order to do so,furthermore, it turns anyone who is on the side of the one who is targeted into an avenger of blood, so to speak, which was the case with several folks who took the law in their own hands.

Yes it is horrid and getting worse. Is Armageddon coming ?  How long will it be ? Do we need to be in a specific organisation ? 

Some scripture talk about being in our inner rooms, other scriptures mention two men working in the field and two women working at the grinding mill ( I think ) , one taken and one left behind.  Another scripture says something about not going back into your house to get an outer garment, I think.  Problem is, i cant keep it all in my head properly.  

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5 hours ago, Anna said:

The land owner is neither wicked (or is he) nor is he your boss. He might be a robber though xD

I forget where I read it, and it was probably talking about the card game Poker, but...

"It is immoral to let a sucker keep his money!".

It does have a certain cynical, yet pragmatic,  ring to it.

 

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8 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

I forget where I read it, and it was probably talking about the card game Poker, but...

"It is immoral to let a sucker keep his money!".

It does have a certain cynical, yet pragmatic,  ring to it.

 

How worldly :)  totally un-Christian attitude :) 

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5 hours ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Yes, it’s not easy to maintain a good moral structure with an uncomfortable post. It reminds me of Mark 13:14-23. What society is becoming, and the interaction of Christians within, as though they have no choice but to accept having to be part of this world.

It must have been an impossible task for Jesus to subject his followers to accomplish. Not being part of. The curious thing comes with activism. In one hand, it can have blind rage, hate, harsh, and belligerent and in the other hand, the same values change just because its built with plastic.

I wonder if Mark cannot be applied. Mark 7:6. What makes sense is written in Galatians 6:3. Now I do find this humorous when interacting with confused souls. The effort, it must take and excuses to continue their untethered hatred while being supported by an unsavory character.

activism
/ˈaktɪvɪz(ə)m/
noun
  1. the policy or action of using vigorous campaigning to bring about political or social change.
    "growing activism on the abortion issue"
     
    protest
    noun
    /ˈprəʊtɛst/
    1. 1.
      a statement or action expressing disapproval of or objection to something.
      "the British team lodged an official protest"
       
       
    I much prefer protest to activism myself. To express disapproval in a calm manner is much better than vigorous campaigning. 
     
    As to the point of "and the interaction of Christians within, as though they have no choice but to accept having to be part of this world"
     
    I would suggest that most JW's seem to accept having to live with Pedophiles within the JW Org. 

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