Why do the elders have to announce when a publisher decides to spend 70 hours a month in service?

[Anna]

4 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

and there is some evidence that he is a Watchtower Lawyer

You are just kidding about this one right?

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

2 hours ago, Anna said:

7 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

and there is some evidence that he is a Watchtower Lawyer

You are just kidding about this one right?

Ask him.

He may evade, but I do not think he would lie.

[JOHN BUTLER]

@James Thomas Rook Jr.  " Thinking we are a monolith is a mistake, even though current management is continually trying to make us one. "

There is a strange way of thinking by some protesters (of which I'm not) that if you are not part of the solution then you are part of the problem. 

I can sort of understand that thinking as I was told by an elder one day, 'If you are not serving Jehovah then you are serving the devil'. 

So James, it could be that, you are either part of the solution or part of the problem, and if you support the GB and it's JW Org / Wt, then it would seem you are part of the problem. 

The power of the GB and its Orgs (plural), is not from God, it is from its congregation and their donations. If the donations stopped and its congregation no longer supported them, the whole thing would collapse. Those 8 men and their legal buddies would be worthless. 

Remember James, NONE OF IT IS INSPIRED OF GOD. 

[JOHN BUTLER]

31 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Ask him.

He may evade, but I do not think he would lie.

Has Billy the Kid actually ever said, here on this forum, that he is a baptised Jehovah's Witness / one of Jehovah's Witnesses ? 

I honestly do not think BtK is a JW.

He has used 'scripture' that the GB / Org has said is not reliable.

He constantly uses the word hell.

He has a bad attitude and makes a habit of judging others.

He even condemn people to death by his judgement. 

He has little understanding of scripture. 

He constantly uses worldly information and false religion to back up his poor arguments. 

But, if he is a JW then in Tom's view he is not a good one. Quote Tom

Good JWs will not be here. They will have more regard for the preference of the organization not to get into cat fights with those who oppose.

I'll just pick up on one thing here, that is Tom's concern about 'the organisation', not about God's view or Christ's view on this matter. 

 

 

[TrueTomHarley]

7 hours ago, Anna said:

and there is some evidence that he is a Watchtower Lawyer

[from JTR, actually]

I will admit that I am glad they have stopped referring to Paul as a lawyer, which they did a few times & that brother is on permanent potato peeling duty in the Bethel kitchen. 

I mean, technically he was, as a Pharisee, but that is not how anyone understands the term today.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

[Srecko Sostar]

4 hours ago, TrueTomHarley said:

referring to Paul as a lawyer

If we take in consideration that Paul has been in Higher Education Program of those time and societies (thanks to God, GB members of those time were not burdened themselves about Education Issue):)) as such was more familiar to Legal Questions,he can acted as "Lawyer" in some matters.  

[TrueTomHarley]

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

 (thanks to God, GB members of those time were not burdened themselves about Education Issue)

Each time there is a slam on the GB for their unenthusiasm over higher education, I think that proponents of that education should be required to take ownership of the world that it has collectively created.

Unlike the GB, the movers and shakers of this world are, with few exceptions, highly educated. Let them point proudly to the world that their brand of education has made. See how many have the chutzpah to do it.

[Srecko Sostar]

8 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

to take ownership

... sounds familiar to idea that GB will be appointed Over All Jesus' Belongings, that means, at least, over All Things on Earth (things= material and spiritual + humankind)

[JOHN BUTLER]

 Oh how sad, old Tom is back on that idea of higher education causing world troubles. 

Tom, the scriptures make is soooooo clear who is to blame for the troubles here on this earth. 

The devil offered all the power / authority here on earth to Jesus. The devil has had that authority for thousands of years. So why oh why you go on about higher education being the big problem i do not know. 

Well actually I have a slight idea why. Higher Education means that people can think for themselves. They can do their own research. They can make their own decisions. I get the feeling you do not like that Tom. Does it make you feel uneasy. Well it probably makes your GB feel very uneasy. People can now do their own research on the internet which makes it much quicker and easier. People can ask questions and find answers. That's why the increase in the JW Org is in lower educated countries. 

 

[TrueTomHarley]

12 minutes ago, JOHN BUTLER said:

So why oh why you go on about higher education being the big problem i do not know. 

If people do not have moral underpinnings, you are almost better off not educating them. They can do less harm that way.

If janitors and car-wash attendants had run the financial world back in 2007, they might have found a way to beat the taxpayer out of a day’s wage.

As it was, highly educated MBA’s and lawyers, without the morals to balance their education, ran it and they discovered a way to bury future generations, even nations, in inescapable debt.

[JOHN BUTLER]

9 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

If people do not have moral underpinnings, you are almost better off not educating them. They can do less harm that way.

If janitors and car-wash attendants had run the financial world back in 2007, they might have found a way to beat the taxpayer out of a day’s wage.

As it was, highly educated MBA’s and lawyers, without the morals to balance their education, ran it and they discovered a way to bury future generations, even nations, in inescapable debt.

Each to their own thinking Tom. I'll be happy that the specialist I've got to see at hospital has had some higher education. To know that those guys have some idea about cancer etc, well it gives one a bit of hope. And those guys that design and build the big scanners that can examine the whole body without actually tearing it apart, well you know I think higher education helped them a bit. There is still a lot of good that comes from higher education Tom. Even bloodless surgery must have involved higher education. The 'cell salvage' machines.