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For various legal, human rights, many people have fought. JW people, minority national or racial communities, LGBT community and others.

True, some individuals paid a high price for their rights. But I think that JW people because of their pacifist attitude can have "struggle" for their rights only intellectually.

If millions of "infidels" or false Christians did not shed blood in wars (WW 1 and 2) against established systems or nazism and other dictatorships, intellectual and passive resistance would not yield some results (or it would, but on some day in far future after global Natural Catastrophe or Alien visitation). 

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I think that the wars of the first Israel were wars for the land, territory. But let us recall on some important details i have found before some 20 years ago when faced with this historical rep

Remember that this was only an option because of those whom established this country. Without those freedoms, then those jws you mentioned would have nothing. 

If you read the account carefully ( EEEEK! ) you will see that Jesus said to THEM (ALL the Apostles) to buy swords .... but TWO apostles already had their personal swords in the room with them, and ca

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On 6/1/2019 at 12:24 AM, Shiwiii said:

Remember that this was only an option because of those whom established this country. Without those freedoms, then those jws you mentioned would have nothing. 

Exactly. Imagine "Legal Battle" between Lawyers Team of Israeli slaves and Pharaoh's Lawyers ? :))

Of course, do not imagine. Read report about Moses who came before Pharaoh and ask him to let go slaves live the Egypt. Moses = attorney. Slaves = party to the proceedings.

Intellectual reasoning was insufficient. Next step was application of force in several phases and of different intensity. Justified? Don't know.

But Bible report said how many people (including Egyptians) sold themselves for bread. And which idea that was? Joseph's idea as Prime minister for Pharaoh. Well, it seems how he has established or strengthened the existing ones, slave system, in Egypt. His father and brothers (68 who came from Canaan in Egypt) left own land because of famine. And they said to Pharaoh how they will stay in Egypt for short time. But they stay much longer, Even after famine has stopped (few years) they not went back. Only to buried their father Jacob. 

I suppose how not only Joseph, but also all his  brothers and their families, have much privileges in Egypt. And it is possible how they have own slaves for themselves. Question is, why they not went back to Canaan after famine has stooped? They were very wealthy before and they get to be more wealthy in their stay in Egypt. Their father Jacob lived  last 17 years in Egypt before he died (famine lasted 7 years). 

Justified wars? Justified slavery? Justified wealthy? .......etc ????? :))) All these and many more are misconceptions. Misconceptions that we creating and we destroying. Always over again.

 

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Billy:

All you just said is true...but War .. is when the people subjugated, enslaved, have their homes and resources confiscated, etc .... FIGHT BACK.

Otherwise, the Nazis could have politely marched backwards into Poland.

Armed Forces are used to make people do things they don't want to, under pain of death and deprivation.

Self Defense is a NATURAL RIGHT that every living thing has ..... if they can manage it ... and choose to try.

 

 

 

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Does a fish actually hate the Eagle that swoops down from the sky and sinks its talons in the side of a fish, to kill and eat?

You are an amazing person Billy.0

The worst case of WDS I have ever seen this side of the mirror, and always wrong about EVERYTHING!

Nothing new here ..... this is universally the case with agenda driven thinking.

None of us are immune to believing lies when we use agenda driven thinking.

 

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