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I do find it kinda' funny that JW's love to talk about billions of people being removed / destroyed / killed / murdered at Armageddon. Billions of people.

And for what ? Well JW's say it's for not serving God. But they will also say it's for not being a baptised JW. 

Well we do know for sure that God either deliberately had, or deliberately allowed, the destruction of Jerusalem in circa 70 C E, and for what ? 

Well the Bible shows us it was for not serving God properly, and for killing God's son. 

BUT when I suggest that the Governing Body should be removed or destroyed, oh dear, the JW's they get really upset ya know. 

Governing Body = 8 men.   Jerusalem = how many, men, women and children, thousands of them. 

But oh dear, now it would be murder. So what was it back then ?  Your see JW's live in a dream world, wrapped up in cotton wool, they just cannot face the real world.

The Governing Body do not serve God properly. That is clearly visible to anyone that honestly wants to see it. 

The Governing Body are destroying JW Org, and if JW Org is God's true Organisation then the GB are deliberately working against God and against God's intentions. 

Humans that deliberately work against God and cause problems for God do not last long on this Earth. 

The Bible shows much proof of this, such as those that opposed Moses. 

I am expecting the GB to be removed, one way or another. But only if God really wants to use the JW Org / Watchtower soc for His own purposes. 

If God does not want to use those Orgs then it would seem sensible for God to set up a new Org for His purposes. 

The only problem with the GB being 'removed' is that JW's will call it a 'sign of the times' and 'persecution', but if God causes the removal then I'm sure He will put them straight. 

Those people that say that the GB cannot be removed / destroyed, are those people that worship the GB. And those people that worship the GB may probably need removing too. 

The world is wicked, it belongs to Satan. The Earth is wonderful and it belongs to Almighty God.

For God to save this Earth and for Him to save a few humans too, drastic things have to take place. Drastic things have to take place.

 

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I may have missed something BTK46, but I do not see where in this particular thread, as shown above, where John Butler threatened ANYBODY. Please correct me with a quote, as you apparently see something that is NOT THERE. No surprise at that ..... It's either you, or me that is wrong about this, and historically, it's always been you. If I say the Governing Body is it's own worst enemy, because they keep shooting themselves in the foot and systematically destroying their cred

I see this from text. First, they "Compromise their Neutrality" by Obeying Censor and Not God. :))) Second, why to speak about Worldly things (wars and weapons and politics) IF they want to be "Neutral" about Politics and Worldly Things? :))) IF someone want to be Neutral about something then He/They Have NO Opinion on something or at least They must "shut their mouth" and NOT to Tell WHAT IS Their Opinion, Thinking, Attitude. :)))) With this behavior you show your "neutrality"!  :))

I do find it kinda' funny that JW's love to talk about billions of people being removed / destroyed / killed / murdered at Armageddon. Billions of people. And for what ? Well JW's say it's for not serving God. But they will also say it's for not being a baptised JW.  Well we do know for sure that God either deliberately had, or deliberately allowed, the destruction of Jerusalem in circa 70 C E, and for what ?  Well the Bible shows us it was for not serving God properly, and for ki

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I may have missed something BTK46, but I do not see where in this particular thread, as shown above, where John Butler threatened ANYBODY.

Please correct me with a quote, as you apparently see something that is NOT THERE.

No surprise at that .....

It's either you, or me that is wrong about this, and historically, it's always been you.

If I say the Governing Body is it's own worst enemy, because they keep shooting themselves in the foot and systematically destroying their credibility, day by day, that is NOT a threat.

.... merely a figurative  observation.

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As the Admin pointed out ... by the time I had entered this thread, the Admin had REMOVED THE REFERENCE.

Therefore, you were reacting to what you saw ... and I was reacting to what I saw.

I personally do not even take threats, real or just bluster, too seriously.

I had a very wealthy Elder once call me up, and he said he was going to destroy me.

I nonchalantly replied that he knew where I lived, and I would meet him in the street, in front of where I was staying,  anytime, and we would shoot it out.

I never saw or heard from him again.

... and I do quite often TRY to act like  a three year old little girl ... they are so happy and full of life, and wonder !  

Very, very inspirational!

The best I can manage is a 24/7/365 sense of humor.

I seriously doubt the Governing Body has anything to fear from John Butler, he has no firearms .... whereas YOU, on the other hand, have claimed to own a small arsenal, and a 50 caliber BMG sniper rifle capable of shooting about a mile and a half, accurately, and 4.5 miles total, and I would not be surprised if that foam on your mouth. is NOT shaving cream.

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1 minute ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Therefore, no Elder needed to destroy you James, you did that all on your own! 🤗

I forgot to mention, that when he said he was going to destroy me, I first replied that he was welcome to try, and then etc.

Willy-Nilly, he abandoned the Truth about three years after that, and I am still here 45 years later.

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13 minutes ago, BillyTheKid46 said:

Therefore, the present watchtower GB should they be imprisoned for the filthy lies you people put out, it will be no different when that disgusting Catholic Church put Rutherford and the board directors behind bars for sedition. A whopping lie if ever I saw one.

That is so ludicrous I don't even know where to start.

The reason the Brothers were imprisoned for sedition, etc ... IS THAT THEY WERE GUILTY !

They were not let out of prison early because of some imaginary vindication ... they were let out because the "Great War" was over.

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The FACTS were that they were encouraging Christian values ....  which to a nation involved in a global war for survival ... true Christian values ARE SEDITION.

The rules change as a practical matter when a million men die in a year long battle, and Europe looks like the craters on the face of the Moon.

The Society WAS guilty of sedition, in encouraging men to uphold Christian Values, and NOT WAR, at a time when the Republic faced destruction at the hands of the Germans.

...and that's the fact, Jack.

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I don't care if it was encouraged by Mickey Mouse from the future!

If it is the death penalty to park your car in a handicapped parking space, and you DO park your car in a handicapped parking space ... it does not matter WHO made or influenced the laws.

You have committed a capital crime.

You are GUILTY of a capital crime!

.... and it is lawful to execute you.

The fact that the law is changed at a later date IS A WHOLE OTHER SUBJECT!

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      “That which is complete” has not arrived; thus, prophesy as well as knowledge, has not ceased. John 16:13
      (Consider “Has Prophesy Ceased?”  4womaninthewilderness, Pearl Doxsey) 
      What if, you found a teaching in the history files (there are several, and easy to find) that wasn’t trustworthy; that is, it couldn’t be applied today since it was replaced with another teaching? And, this teaching affected the promise of salvation for thousands of people? Many may have died under that false teaching, going to their grave believing simply, a lie. Would this be any different than a Catholic going to his grave believing in the trinity? A lie is a lie. God or Jesus would not be responsible for the organization giving you faulty instructions, that later had to be scrapped. It falls on the shoulders of men. Isa 2:22 We must admit that it is an abnormal relationship of a spirit inspired organization (“spirit-directed”), to be led by uninspired leaders. John 3:21; 1 John 1:6; Rev 13:11,12,15
      I think you’ll agree that we would never receive bad advice or direction from the Father, because He truly has our best interests at heart. Jer 29:11 So much so, that we received warning from Jesus of false “christs”, false prophets who would come on the scene in the last days to deceive “even the elect”. Matt 24:22-25 Now, the “elect” are the anointed ones, where the majority are gathered presently in the organization. Rev 20:7-9 Would they, as a group, be deceived by false prophets in “Christendom” if they are baptized JWs? Would they, as a group, be 'conquered' spiritually by any false prophets in the world when they are already JWs? Rev 13:7; 9:1-4
      The Bible speaks of an anointed “remnant” coming out of “Babylon”. Zech 2:6,7; Matt 24:15,16; Rev 18:4; 12:14,6 If that remnant is the anointed in the organization that have escaped Babylon, as your leaders teach you, this would indicate there are numerous anointed ones in Christendom who never entered the organization. Do you believe this, JWs?
      The anointed are a remnant, the last group of the “woman’s seed” to face Satan’s final test before the Kingdom arrives. Rev 12:4,15,17 This test is called the “Great Tribulation”. Jer 30:5-7; Matt 24:21,22; Rev 3:10 Deceit is at its helm, since it is Satan’s greatest, most powerful tool to use against God’s people. 2 Thess 2:3,4,9-12
      The Great Tribulation is a spiritual assault by Satan upon the remnant (Rev 12:17; 20:8-10; 16:13-16; 1 Tim 4:1; Luke 21:20-22)
      through the greatest Army that has ever existed [Rev 13:1,4; 11:2; 9:7,10; Luke 22:31; 21:20-22,24; Mark 13:14 – (Num 18:7); Matt 24:15,16]
      It has a deceptive priestly - princely veneer (Jer 7:4,8; Ezek 44:6-9; Rev 9:7; Nahum 3:17) of divine inspiration*** and approval, through endorsement by the false prophet's lying spirit, not by God's spirit! (Rev 13:14,15; 19:20) (Rev 2:2; 2 Cor 11:13-15; 2 Tim 3:5,13; Matt 7:15; 1 Tim 4:1; Rev 16:14,13,15; 19:20; Matt 24:24,25; Rev 13:15--***"breath" -John 2:22).  Pearl Doxsey, “The Great Tribulation, What and Why?” 
       
      DECEIT. How do we conquer deceit? By examining each teaching offered by an anointed one, and comparing it to God’s standards through Jesus Christ - to determine if it is true. Matt 7:20; John 15:5 As humans adjusting our spiritual beliefs, we may easily settle for what feels good, but not always for what is right. This last test is one that should purge our minds and hearts of falsehoods, but not all will submit to God’s pure standards of truth. Dan 12:10; Ps 66:10-12; Mal 3:2-4   Not all will be among the “remnant” to “come out of her, my people”. Rev 18:4-8
      Will you?  Or, are you the naive one who believes every word that comes from leaders who are not "inspired" by the truth of Christ?
       
      Praise Yah!
      I will extol YHVH with all my heart
      in the council of the upright and in the assembly.
      2 Great are the works of YHVH;
      they are pondered by all who delight in them.
      3 Glorious and majestic are His deeds,
      and His righteousness endures forever.
      4 He has caused His wonders to be remembered;
      YHVH is gracious and compassionate.
      5 He provides food for those who fear Him;
      He remembers His covenant forever.
      6 He has shown his people the power of His works,
      giving them the lands of other nations.
      7 The works of His hands are faithful and just;
      all His precepts are trustworthy.
      8 They are established for ever and ever,
      enacted in faithfulness and uprightness.
      9 He provided redemption for His people;
      he ordained His covenant forever—
      holy and awesome is His name.
      10 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom;
      all who follow His precepts have good understanding.
      To Him belongs eternal praise.
      Psalm 111
       

    • By JOHN BUTLER
      I find it interesting when so much is compared between the Jews and the JW's.
      But in my opinion, one big difference between being a Jew before and in the time of Jesus, and being a JW, is choice. 
      If a person was born into the Nation of Israel, they were born under Law and ruled over by the Religious leaders (and the Romans) at that time. There was no choice of being a Jew or not being a Jew. They were born into it. So of course many of them, probably all of them, committed 'sin' and had to make sin offerings. God had chosen that Nation, those people had responsibility but not of their choice. 
      Now, people that enter the JW religion do so voluntarily.  ( Unfortunately for those born into it, they have to go through the motions of serving the JW Org until they are of an age whereby they can leave home. Then, when of age they too can volunteer to be a JW or chose to leave the Org.). 
      There is a big difference from being born into a Nation which you may not like, than voluntarily joining a religion which you do like.
      So the big question is, if 'millions' of people voluntarily join this JW Org, why do so many commit child abuse, adultery and many other sins ? 
      If this is supposed to be 'THE true religion', why are the people not guided by God through Jesus  Christ ?  Just reading comments on here from so called JW's makes me laugh. There is no love, no mercy, no understanding, no respect even. 
      Being an ex JW and seeing things from both sides i have found more genuine love, kindness, friendship, respect, warmth, understanding etc outside of the Org than inside. Inside the Org people have to be told to 'love one another', outside the Org people do it anyway. 
      It has amazed me how JW's can really believe that God is with them when they are so cold and selfish.
      With the Jews that were born into that Nation, they had no choice about their way of life. It was basically a dictatorship by God. The Laws were from 'above'. Obviously for the right reason, to bring forth Jesus Christ who in turn would 'rescue' the human race from complete destruction. But it was a totally different situation to the JW Org today.
      So now all you 'JWs', think on it. Do you truly believe you are in this' special environment' within the Org ? Do you really think that your Org has God's approval ? 
      Think deeply about all the problems within JW Org. All the disgusting things being done voluntarily by all the volunteer JW's. 
      Now ask yourself, are you really a volunteer JW or are you trapped in the Org for fear of losing all those 'so called friends' ? 
      You know that you can only have your family and 'friends' as long as you are a JW.   Do you feel like the Jews must have felt, trapped in that Nation ? 
      As we know many of the Jews left the Jewish religion and way of life to follow Christ, but it was difficult for them. However, they did have God's approval and God, through Christ made this known clearly. And it seems that many are leaving the JW Org to seek God's approval too. 
      But remember that all JW's are volunteers, or should be, so why oh why is there so much trouble in that Org ? 
       
    • By JOHN BUTLER
      Having read lots of comments on this forum it is very easy to see that all that Jehovah's Witnesses have is their belief in their Governing Body and it's Writing Department. 
      If they believe, as a certain cowboy would have it, that a person can gain no true knowledge from the bible itself, then how else does a person gain true knowledge ? 
      It would seem that Jehovah's Witnesses rely totally on their GB 'boses' and on the Writing Department of same, to tell all JW's what to believe and when to believe it. 
      Why do i say 'and when to believe it' ?  Well you have to keep up you know . What is said to be 'truth' by the GB and co one day,  will be said to be totally untrue the next day or week.
      JW's have nothing, no proof of any 'enlightenment' from above. They talk proudly about having 8.5 million members earthwide, but how many Muslims are there earthwide ? How many Catholics earthwide ?  Numbers prove nothing as it can be clearly seen. 
      Yes I was once fooled by all the 'niceness' of a few brothers and sisters. But once I got to know those people properly I soon found out that they are no better than people in the world. 
      The JW Org is no better than any other organisation that pretends to serve God, but the JW Org is in some ways more dangerous.  It wraps itself around people's lives and restricts people's freedom of thinking. It pretends to have 'special knowledge' from God that no other organisation has.
      But then if one looks closely one can see it is all just a smoke screen. The JW Org only has 8 men in America dominating it, and 8.5 million people worshiping those 8 men. 
      I do feel a bit foolish having wasted years of my life believing all of it's lies and deceit, but I congratulate myself for not being frightened to ask questions and do research for myself. 
      No matter what any Jehovah's Witness tells you, the truth is, all they have is a belief in their GB, and they follow their GB's orders via all the others in charge including the puppet men Elders. 
      At meetings, conventions, assemblies, on the ministry et al, all they do is use the literature provided for them by the GB and the Writing dept. Without question they pump this 'information' into other people. When conducting a supposed 'bible study' it is actually a book study, studying the words of the GB / writing dept, not studying God's written word properly. They spend more time reading the paragraphs and answering those questions than they do reading scriptures and focusing on God's words.
      It is a horrid way of brainwashing people, washing out the common sense and replacing it with lies from the GB / writing dept. Dictating, giving orders and pretending it is God's will. 
      Removing the love that people have for one another and replacing it with discrimination. Shunning family members, turning their back on anyone that is not a JW by saying all other people are just 'part of the world' and therefore wicked. 
      Frightening people with threats of 'armageddon' killing them. 
      And now it seems that they are almost begging for contributions as they seem to be getting short of money. Well paying off millions in compensation for the Child Abuse / Pedophilea of course. Selling off Kingdom Halls too as funds run low. 
      Oh how low that religion has sunken. Are they really stupid enough to believe that God is with them ?  
       
    • By Albert Michelson
      What is the good news?
       
      The Bible is clear that even if someone had been clearly selected by god if they deviate from the truth they are to be rejected. 
       
      Galatians 1:8-9 However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed.  9 As we have said above, I also now say again, Whoever it is that is declaring to YOU as good news something beyond what YOU accepted, let him be accursed.
       
      This holds even more weight for ones like the GB who are not clearly selected and who's claim to authority rests solely on a demonstrably false interpretation of scripture.
      The organization claims that the 1914 teaching is necessary for salvation and even goes as far as to claim that the 1914 teaching is the good news spoken of in the Bible.
      *** w67 12/15 pp. 753-754 pars. 3-4 What Now Distinguishes the Good News to Be Preached ***
      "What a joy-inspiring addition or enlargement to the good news now to be preached! Now has come the victorious kingdom of our God together with the authority of his Christ, his Messiah! As for Satan the Devil and his demons, they have only a short period of time until they are bound and imprisoned in the abyss after the “war of the great day of God the Almighty” at Armageddon. All this additional wonderful information has been true since the end of the “appointed times of the nations” in 1914, and particularly since World War I closed in the year 1918. Not before the “appointed times of the nations” ended in the fall of 1914 could the good news be preached of the newborn, established heavenly kingdom of God and of his Messiah. This, then, must be the good news that Jesus Christ in his prophecy said had to be preached first in all the nations. (Mark 13:10) This generation of human society that has seen and experienced the world events since the Gentile Times closed in 1914—this is the “generation” that will not pass away until all the things foretold have happened, including the preaching of the good news first in all nations.
      4 Jesus’ prophecy in Mark 13:10, “Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first,” has not been undergoing fulfillment during the past nineteen centuries. It is only since the second decade of our twentieth century that this prophecy has been undergoing fulfillment. This began to be realized by the International Bible Students Association and the Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society since the end of the second decade of our century. In the magazine issue of July 1, 1920, of The Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence the article was published entitled “Gospel of the Kingdom” and based on the theme text, “‘And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.’—Matthew 24:14.”
       It is for this reason that the organization is chained to the 1914 teaching. As the scripture I quoted above demonstrates the Bible says that one who teaches a good news that is false is cursed. If the organization admits that the 1914 and 1919 teachings are false they will have to admit that not only were they not selected as gods channel but that they have been teaching a false good news for the majority of their existence. It is for that reason that they disfellowship and shun people who cannot conscientiously remain in the faith. It's easier to just eliminate the opposition then to actually address the real issues with your theology. 
      *** w86 4/1 pp. 30-31 Questions From Readers ***
      Why have Jehovah’s Witnesses disfellowshipped (excommunicated) for apostasy some who still profess belief in God, the Bible, and Jesus Christ?
       
      "Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?
       
      That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17) That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28) That there is a “faithful and discreet slave” upon earth today ‘entrusted with all of Jesus’ earthly interests,’ which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47) That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10) That only 144,000 Christians will receive the heavenly reward. (Revelation 14:1, 3) That Armageddon, referring to the battle of the great day of God the Almighty, is near. (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:11-21) That it will be followed by Christ’s Millennial Reign, which will restore an earth-wide paradise. That the first to enjoy it will be the present “great crowd” of Jesus’ “other sheep.”—John 10:16; Revelation 7:9-17; 21:3, 4."
       
      This is supposedly a list of the fundamental doctrines of Jehovah's Witnesses that all are required to believe. You will in most cases be disfellowshiped for not believing in one or more of them. Unfortunately the truth is most of them are false.
    • By Jack Ryan
      If the love you have for your children is predicated on their beliefs, you don't love your children you love YOUR beliefs
    • By Jack Ryan
      In previous decades, when someone was disfellowshipped, they were told their time would be 6 months. Now it’s a full year?
      Why did that change from 6 mo to a year? and are they getting more ppl to come back with the increased time? With the less members staying in the org, you would think they want to lower the “jail time “
      Also are there any other religions that gives you months or years of time out, if you commit a sin, even if you actually want to come back?
      Also any former elders here? Why is there a standard set time for everyone? And why can they reject someone’s letter who wants to come back? Don’t they need more members ?
    • By Jack Ryan
      Jehovah's Witness Organization Redefines Shunning to Falsely.mp4
      Every JW visiting this page should MORALLY comment below and publicly state that this JW Lawyer is LYING through his teeth to the Canadian Supreme Court.
      If you don't, YOU participate in this gross sin. Because you ALL KNOW this is a false statement.
      Remember as well that this JW Lawyer is also an Officer of the Court.
      What the courts do not know is that JW's consider outright lying in court a part of "theocratic warfare" just like Muslims do. So it is a virtue to them.

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      Can you spell P-E-R-J-U-R-Y?
    • By Jack Ryan
      "Sunday, December 30
      Asa’s heart was complete with Jehovah all his life.—1 Ki. 15:14.
      Each of us can examine his heart to see if it is fully devoted to God. Ask yourself, ‘Am I determined to please Jehovah, to defend true worship, and to protect his people from any corrupting influence?’ For example, what if someone close to you has to be disfellowshipped? Would you take decisive action by ceasing to associate with that person? What would your heart move you to do? Like Asa, you can show that you have a complete heart by fully relying on God when you are faced with opposition, even some that may seem insurmountable. You may be teased or ridiculed at school for taking a stand as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Or colleagues at work may taunt you for taking days off for spiritual activities or for not often working overtime. In such situations, pray to God, just as Asa did. (2 Chron. 14:11) Remain firm for what you know is right and wise. Remember that God strengthened and helped Asa, and He will strengthen you.
      w17.03 3:6-8 "

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    • By Jack Ryan
      This was a case where in June 1987, the United States Court of Appeals for the 9th Circuit upheld the Witnesses' right to shun those who fail to live by the group's standards and doctrines, upholding the ruling of a lower court.

      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. Has there been any cases after this, where DF cases went to court? Have there been cases in other countries were DF decisions were challenged and reversed?
    • By James Thomas Rook Jr.
      Here in the United States we have Cable TV with such things as "History Channel", "Discovery Channel", "Scifi Channel", and "A&E" the "Arts and Entertainment Channel".  Apparently around November 13 of this year they had a famous (?) TV star, Leah Remini,  who had been a Scientologist since she was eight years old turn Apostate, and she has done at least two TV seasons exposing the ills of the Church of Scientology", do an Expose' of Jehovah's Witnesses.
      I do not watch TV as a rule, and missed it, and I spent a few days looking for it and trying to download a copy.  It was not on YouTube, but I did find it under "Aftermath Jehovah's Witnesses" on the Russian equivalent of YouTube, "Rutube.ru". It would not download with my usual download software, so I had to find a free screen capture software, which took about four hours to get the settings just right, and I was able to download the two hour program from my monitor, as it was playing.
      Therefore, I watched the TV program three times, as I experimented with the settings to get a good screen copy to my hard drive..
      I could see both sides of the program viewpoints presented, and did not find us to be misrepresented in any way whatsoever ... but if there was EVER a clear example of the Law of Unintended Consequences, the horror the Governing Body has caused in disfellowshipping the way that it is currently done ... by ripping families apart, and creating  irreparable damage that can never be corrected with reinstatement, was chilling, and puts us in the same class as Scientologists ... which completely disregarding the horror and hardsip, and cruelty without any mercy whatsoever it creates locally, shames Jehovah's Name and Reputation over the whole planet.
      I don't believe there is anything a local Jehovah's Witness could do ... rob a bank ... have a harem ... have sex with horses ... etc., ad nauseum ... that would besmirch Jehovah's name and reputation globally as much as our current blatantly cruel public policies of destroying whole families for the sins of one person.
      I am very glad to have the education I have to know that the TRUTH is still the truth .... even though the 85% drivel has rotted and fermented into rotten sewage.
      Most JWs do NOT have this educational advantage ... so their lives are permanently destroyed.
      I don't expect much from people, and almost NOTHING from groups of people .... so for me, like getting one of those great salads at the Olive Garden Restaurant, and finding a big chunk of solid sewage in it ... I hold my nose, and eat around it.
      This TV Special is global news .... what could I possibly say to the average person that would clear the Name of God, that the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, NOT THE TELEVISION PROGRAM, has corrupted by its Pharisaic policies that have real world consequences?
      The exact same thing happened in ancient Israel, and a system that God blessed and supported for a thousand years and more was abandoned by God.
      The exact same thing.
       
       
       
       
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      By Guest Kurt
      Was Jesus Crucified on a Cross NO..mp4
       
    • By James Thomas Rook Jr.
      CAN A PERSON ... OR SHOULD A PERSON . BE DISFELLOWSHIPPED IN ABSTENSIA?
      Here is the situation .....  a person REPORTED to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses is accused, and NOT convicted ( ... because he is a fugitive from Justice ...) .....

      Apparently he was at one time in a "Position Of Authority", which possibly alludes to his being an  "Elder", and he may have relocated to another State or even another Country. Possibly using an alias.
      The  various Congregation Elders cannot find him, the Society cannot find him, and the U.S. Marshal's Service cannot find him.
      Not having any indication to the contrary ... at least from the information given in the pseudo-Wanted Poster shown above, he is possibly still officially one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
      Whether he is or not, his bad example raises an interesting  aspect of trying to figure out how the disfellowshipping "system" protocol actually works.
      Can any of the Congregations  he went to disfellowship him without his being present  to answer charges ?
      ... and SHOULD he be?
       
    • By James Thomas Rook Jr.
      DO  WE STILL  DISFELLOWSHIP  THE  MENTALLY  ILL ?
      I was a teenager in the 60's,  and I had a good friend that on Scout camping trips I introduced to the Truth, and I was there in NYC at Yankee Stadium when he was baptized as one of Jehovah's Witness. He was a true "straight arrow", and pioneered, always dressed immaculately, and eventually over the years became an Elder.
      One night, at an Elder's Meeting, he announced to the other Elders that he was Jesus Christ, and that his mother was the virgin Mary, and of course he was disfellowshipped.
      He spent several years in private mental institutions until his insurance money ran out, then in a State institution for several years.
      He called me up, and told me the story, and I told him I was the Great Turtleman, and every November, before I hibernated, I rose from the swamp and gave toys to all the good little boys and girls.  I was just pulling his leg, but he was dead serious.
      Later, he was in England, while his wife was trying without success to get him to take his medications, and fell over a balcony at Heathrow Airport and got killed.
      DO  WE STILL  DISFELLOWSHIP  THE  MENTALLY  ILL ?
       
    • By Jack Ryan
      from 2016 the year that they started the return to Jehovah brochure.
    • By Jack Ryan
      a heartbreaking video has emerged online showing how far reaching and deeply ingrained this shunning policy is; a video showing JehovahÂ’s Witnesses clapping in applause as a little girl announces she is shunning her own sister.
      Little Melody, and the sister she doesnÂ’t have.
      The incident appears to take place at one of this years Watchtower conventions. The video was posted on youtube by the girls parents, apprently eager to share with the world how they had trained one of their children to pretend her sister didnÂ’t exist purely on the basis of religious dogma.
      The video was comment-protected once viewers began expressing concern and displeasure at what they saw, but at the time of writing the video itself is still live and can be viewed below on the family’s youtube page. (EDIT 11/09/2017 – The video has been removed, but we have linked to an alternate site which has a copy)

      t shows a little girl called Melody. She is ten years old, and was apparently baptised when she was 9. This means that Melody is now committed to the religion for life, and will be shunned if she ever leaves, or “unrepentantly” breaks any of its vast array of detailed rules.
      During the interview, Melody explains that she has a sister who was “disfellowshipped,” which is the Witness term for one who is excommunicated; someone who was thrown out of the faith rather than leaving of their own accord. We are not told the reason for the disfellowshipping, but one can be subjected to it for a wide range of reasons such as pre-marital sex, celebrating Christmas or birthdays, voting, taking a blood transfusion, joining the military, or simply questioning any of the doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.
      Melody states that her sister was trying to contact her, and asking her to stay in contact despite Watchtower decreeing that she be shunned. Remember, MelodyÂ’s sister has probably lost all her family and friends at this point; everyone she ever knew and loved.
      Melody admits that she misses and loves her sister, but states that she was afraid that if she didnÂ’t cut her sister off completely, she might be tempted to keep some form of relationship going. Thus, she has decided to shun her completely, as Watchtower demands. She claims that this was to protect her relationship with Jehovah.
      The audience of JehovahÂ’s Witnesses watching this announcement applaud.

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    • By Jack Ryan
      This comes from the final talk at the Birmingham, AL Convention. Herd talks kind of low and there is some background noise, so here is a transcript starting at about 1:25.
      I thought this was interesting because it doesn't appear to be in the talk outline. Admittedly, I just skimmed through the outline quickly, so it might be in there. Either way, there is something twisted about comparing the shunning of children to casting out demons from heaven.
      Edit: For those wondering, this talk is from August 5. The part before when the transcript starts is Herd talking about King Asa removing his grandmother from her position.



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      Please email me the  Pure worship scripture via email tennyson@capemedia.co.za please I still have a problemdownloading the info. 
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    • Eric Ouellet

      Prière de Moïse qui nous apprend un message important pour les enfants de Dieu de nos jours.
       
      Ô Jéhovah, tu as été notre demeure de génération en génération.
      Avant que les montagnes soient nées
      ou que tu aies donné naissance à la terre et au sol productif,
      depuis toujours et pour toujours, tu es Dieu.
      Tu fais retourner le mortel à la poussière ;
      tu dis : « Vous, fils des hommes, retournez à la poussière. »
      Car, à tes yeux, mille ans sont comme le jour d’hier quand il est passé,
      comme une veille pendant la nuit.
      Tu emportes les humain ; ils deviennent comme un instant de sommeil.
      Au matin, ils sont comme l’herbe qui germe.
      Le matin, elle fleurit et se renouvelle,
      mais le soir, elle se flétrit et se dessèche.
      Oui, nous sommes consumés par ta colère
      et terrifiés par ta fureur.
      Tu mets nos fautes devant toi ;
      à la lumière de ton visage, nos secrets sont dévoilés.
      Nos jours déclinent à cause de ta fureur ;
      nos années s’achèvent tel un murmure.
      La durée de notre vie est de 70 ans,
      ou de 80 ans si l’on est particulièrement robuste.
      Mais elle est remplie de malheur et de chagrin ;
      elle passe vite, et nous nous envolons.
      Qui peut sonder la puissance de ta colère ?
      Ta fureur est aussi grande que la crainte qui t’est due.
      Apprends-nous à compter nos jours
      pour que nous puissions acquérir un cœur sage.
      Reviens, ô Jéhovah ! Jusqu’à quand cela va-t-il durer ?
      Aie pitié de tes serviteurs.
       
      "Au matin, rassasie-nous de ton amour fidèle,
      pour que nous puissions crier de joie et nous réjouir tous les jours de notre vie.
      Réjouis-nous pendant autant de jours que ceux où tu nous as affligés,
      pendant autant d’années que celles où nous avons connu le malheur.
      Que tes serviteurs voient ton action
      et que leurs fils voient ta splendeur.
      Que la faveur de Jéhovah notre Dieu soit sur nous !
      Puisses-tu faire réussir l’œuvre de nos mains,
      oui, fais réussir l’œuvre de nos mains. "
       
      Celui qui habite dans le lieu secret du Très-Haut
      logera à l’ombre du Tout-Puissant.
      Je veux dire à Jéhovah : « Tu es mon refuge et ma forteresse,
      mon Dieu en qui j’ai confiance. »
      Car il te délivrera du piège de l’oiseleur
      et de l’épidémie destructrice.
      Avec ses plumes il te couvrira,
      et sous ses ailes tu te réfugieras
      Sa fidélité sera un grand bouclier et un mur protecteur.
      Tu ne craindras ni les terreurs de la nuit,
      ni la flèche qui vole pendant le jour,
      ni l’épidémie qui rôde dans l’obscurité,
      ni la destruction qui ravage en plein midi.
      Mille tomberont à tes côtés
      et dix mille à ta droite,
      mais rien de cela ne s’approchera de toi.
      Toi, tu ne feras que voir cela de tes yeux
      quand tu assisteras à la punition des méchants.
      Puisque tu as dit : « Jéhovah est mon refuge »,
      tu as fait du Très-Haut ta demeure ;aucun désastre ne t’arrivera
      et aucun fléau ne s’approchera de ta tente.
      Car il donnera à ses anges un ordre à ton sujet,
      pour te protéger où que tu ailles.
      Ils te porteront sur leurs mains,
      pour que ton pied ne heurte pas de pierre. 
      Sur le jeune lion et le cobra tu marcheras ;
      tu piétineras le lion à crinière et le gros serpent.
      Dieu a dit : « Parce qu’il a de l’affection pour moi, je vais le délivrer.
      Je vais le protéger parce qu’il connaît mon nom.
      Il m’appellera à l’aide, et je lui répondrai.
      Je serai avec lui en temps de détresse.
      Je le délivrerai et le glorifierai.
      Je le rassasierai d’une longue vie
      et je lui ferai voir mes actes sauveurs. »
       
      "Au matin, rassasie-nous de ton amour fidèle,
      pour que nous puissions crier de joie et nous réjouir tous les jours de notre vie.
      Réjouis-nous pendant autant de jours que ceux où tu nous as affligés,
      pendant autant d’années que celles où nous avons connu le malheur.
      Que tes serviteurs voient ton action
      et que leurs fils voient ta splendeur.
      Que la faveur de Jéhovah notre Dieu soit sur nous !
      Puisses-tu faire réussir l’œuvre de nos mains,
      oui, fais réussir l’œuvre de nos mains." 


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    • Eric Ouellet

      JÉHOVAH SON NOM EST JALOUX, IL FAIT PARTIE DE SON NOM, POURQUOI?
      Exode 34:14 bible 1985 
      JÉHOVAH SON NOM EST JALOUX POURQUOI ?
      Jéhovah est le Dieu de la création de lui toutes choses est venue à l'existence, car il est le Créateur universel et le Père de tout les vivants, de tout ce qui existent dans l'univers. Quand nous lisons sa parole, beaucoup de versets et de chapitres nous démontrent, comment il voit notre existence et comment il nous guide vers le chemin de la lumière et de la vérité.
      EN PROVERBE CHAPITRE 2 JÉHOVAH PAR SON ASSISTANT, NOUS TRANSMET UNE LETTRE INSPIRANTE PAR SALOMON ET QUI TÉMOIGNE DE LA GRANDEUR DE SA PERSONNE, COMMENT IL EST UN PÈRE AIMANT, LE PÈRE DE TOUT LES VIVANTS ET DE TOUTES CHOSES, VOICI CE QU'IL RÉVÈLE À SALOMON:
      Mon fils (NOUS), si tu fais bon accueil à mes paroles et si tu gardes précieusement mes commandements, en prêtant une oreille attentive à la sagesse et en inclinant ton coeur vers le discernement, si , de plus, tu appelles l'intelligence et si tu élèves la voie pour obtenir le discernement si tu continues à chercher cela comme de l'argent et si tu le recherches sans relâche comme des trésors cachés, alors tu comprendras ce que signifie craindre Jéhovah et tu trouveras la connaissance de Dieu. Car Jéhovah lui-même donne la sagesse: de sa bouche viennent connaissance et discernement.
      PROVERBE 2 :1-6
      Dans ces versets Jéhovah nous enseigne, un fondement primordial à notre vie, une clef pour atteindre la connaissance et la sagesse, la logique, atteindre la pleine conscience.  Sa parole, la bible nous donne une vision par le fait d'acquérir la vision justes , les paroles justes, les pensées justes, la concentration justes,  les efforts justes, les actions justes, les moyens existences justes.
      Tout ce fondement de cette lois que Jéhovah a fondé est régis sur une vertue, qui est le fruit de l'Amour, car Dieu est Amour. Galates 5:22,23 et 1 Jean 4:8
      1cor 13:4 à 8 première ligne.
      Il est écris:
      L'amour est patient et bon. L'amour n'est pas jaloux, il ne se vante pas, ne se gonfle pas d'orgueil.
      N'agit pas de façon inconvenante,  ne cherche pas ses propres intérêts, ne s'irrite pas.
      Il ne tient pas compte du mal subi. Il ne se réjouit pas de l'injustice, mais se réjouit avec la vérité.
      Il supporte tout, croit tout, endure tout.
      L'amour ne disparaît jamais.
      JÉHOVAH est un Dieu qui montre l'exemple à suivre. Il démontre par sa création qu'Il est un Dieu d'équilibre et il n'impose à personne ce que lui même ne ferait. Jéhovah connaît toutes choses car tout ce que l'on vit dans notre existence maintenant, il connaît le bien d'une action et la conséquence d'une mauvaise action et cela en toutes actions bonnes ou mauvaises.
      Pendant sa méditation sur la création, avant qu'il ait créé notre univers, Jéhovah a créé une matrice du bien et une matrice du mal. De ces deux matrices, il maria les deux essences, LE BIEN ET LE MAL, dans sa pensée créatrice mais cela fut comme une assemblage de tout les possibilités combinables, ainsi créer une symbiose parfaite entre le mal et le bien.  Il fonda une loi pour ces lois du mal et du bien. Cela fut pour créer la loi de toutes les énergies connues et inconnues à notre pensée, pour que seul le bien soit unanime entre chacunes d'elles. (Genèse 3:22a)
      Ces deux matrices devaient être maitrisées par Jéhovah lui même, avant de créer sa première création qui fut dévoilé en Proverbe 8:22à36. Jéhovah médita sur le bien de toutes choses et la conséquences de chaque choses. Il a vu comment la mauvaise union de deux éléments ou plus, pourrait devenir un danger pour l'équilibre de sa création et une bienfaisance parfaite dans un mariage uni et parfait DE TOUTES CHOSES.
      JÉHOVAH EST L'INSTIGATEUR  DU MARIAGE.
      Prenons une exemple: Imaginons un évènement où en assemblant deux liquides, qui sont opposés l'un à l'autre, qu'est ce qui pourrait en résulter et voir la conséquence de leur union, si nous ne prenons pas de précaution en les mélangent que se passera t'il?
      Voilà vous décidez de mélanger du lait avec du chlore, si vous feriez cela sans prendre conscience avant votre action, le danger de mélanger ces deux liquides. Votre vie pourrait être changé, par une conséquence très néfaste de cette action et résulter de brûlure sévèrent aux poumons et voir votre peau être brulée au troisième degrés pendant toute le reste de votre vie. Car en mélangeant ces deux liquides ensembles vous créez un réaction chimique qui créerait une bombe effervescente très dangereuse. Quand Jéhovah a médité sur le mariage de chaques éléments de son univers physique, particules, atomes et molécules, énergies, ect. Il a bien calculé chaques choses à sa pleine minutie, avant de commencer le début de sa création. Jéhovah usa de minutie et regarda toutes les formes de conséquences que l'union de deux contraires pourrait résulter dans le mariage de deux éléments ou qu'apporterait l'utilité de leur union à sa futur création. Alors Jéhovah qui est le Dieu de la création connaît toutes choses entre le bien et le mal, il connaît le chemin de l'équilibre parfait entre chaque formes d'énergies, matières, actions, pensées, désirs, émotions et sentiments...,.etc
      Allons ensemble en Exode 34:14 et dans ce verset je vais utilisé la version de 1985 ( Les saintes écritures traduction du monde nouveau) pour élaborer le thème de ce discours. 
      Exode 34 :14 allons lire  ensemble la partie b de ce verset.
      Moïse écrit: Par ce que Jéhovah dont le Nom est Jaloux,  c'est un Dieu jaloux.
      Comment dans ce verset, pouvons nous dire que Son Nom est Jaloux, car il est un Dieu jaloux ?
      Dans la bible nous distinguons Jéhovah comme un Dieu d'Amour et qu'il est la personnification de l'Amour mais ici, il est écris, qu'il est un Dieu jaloux et même son nom est "Jaloux "avec une majuscule. Dans le passage de 1 cor 13:4 à 8 a, il est écris que l'Amour véritable n'est pas jaloux.
      POURQUOI JÉHOVAH DIEU EST JALOUX ET QUE SON NOM EST JALOUX AVEC UNE MAJUSCULE? 
      COMMENT LA JALOUSIE PEUT - ELLE ETRE UNE QUALITÉ DE DIEU?
      Le thème "Jaloux" étymologiquement fait référence à une définition différente de notre pensée.
      "Jaloux" veut dire le sens étymologique (Le premier de toute chose, L'Unique.) Alors nous pouvons par cette définition dire que notre Dieu dont son nom est "Jaloux" représente véritablement son nom car il est le Premier Dieu et qu'Il est l'Unique Dieu universel, Créateur de l'univers et qu'il est le Seul à avoir toujours existé et qu'il est le seul vrai Dieu,  À PART LUI IL N'Y A PAS DE DIEU AUTRE QUE LUI. En pensant que Jéhovah son Nom serait "Jaloux" ce nom serait approprié car il est le seul Dieu et Unique Dieu de l'univers, IL EST LE SEUL À CONNAÎTRE TOUTES CONNAISSANCES ET SAGESSES, ETC. VOILÀ POURQUOI SON NOM EST JALOUX, PERSONNE NE CONNAÎT, LA CONNAISSANCE DE DIEU.
      Quand Jéhovah a créé Adam, il lui donna le nom de "Adam" dont son Nom est: "homme tiré du sol". Quand Jéhovah a assemblé, Eve , par l'assemblage d'une création moléculaire, car "Eve" fut issue de l'adn d'Adam, elle est devenue, la femme compatible parfaite pour Adam. Cette femme porta le nom de "Eve" qui veut dire : "vivre" car d'elle toutes les génération futur des humains seraient créé en son sein de procréation par le début de la naissances de ces enfant et de ces petits enfants. 
      Alors là signification du nom de Dieu "Jaloux" qui signifie "Premier de toute choses et l'Unique" Jéhovah le Dieu de l'Univers" le nom Jaloux devient réaliste à notre compréhension. Jéhovah veut que nous comprenions son Nom. Comprendre ainsi la raison de ce Nom "Jaloux" dans (Exode 34:14 partie b) QUI FUT RÉVÈLÉ PAR MOÏSE.
      Pourquoi Jéhovah est un Dieu jaloux et comment le thème de jaloux peut être une qualité de Jéhovah et comment le prouver?
      COMME AU DÉBUT DE CE DISCOURS, J'AI FAIT SORTIR UN POINT IMPORTANT DE PROVERBE 2:1 À 6  JÉHOVAH EST UN PÈRE AIMANT ET DANS CE PASSAGE CELUI QUI SUIT SON CHEMIN CONNAÎTRA LA SAGESSE, L'INTELLIGENCE ET LE DISCERNEMENT.
      Alors voyons ensemble comment la terme jaloux est une qualité de Jéhovah. 
      Le terme que Dieu est "jaloux" est apporté dans le verset d'Exode 34:14 comme une adjectif de protection. Ce terme"jaloux"est basé sur le fait que son Amour est parfait et l'Amour que Jéhovah apporte envers les humains de la terre et envers toutes sa Création et fait partie de la qualité du terme "jaloux". JÉHOVAH  a créé son dessein pour le voir grandir et vivre la joie de voir toute sa création jouïr de la vie et non de la mort. 
      Quand le Fils de Dieu est venu au monde qu'elle était l'émotion qui s'animait en lui.
      Allons en proverbe 8 :22 à 31 et regardons les paroles de Jésus:
      Dans ce texte, Jésus est détaillé au féminin car il est le complément de la création, et à la fin, il montre qu'il est un mâle.  Je vais approfondir ce point par la suite.
      Il est écris: Jéhovah m'a( produite) ( féminin) comme le commencement de son action (oeuvre), la plus ancienne de ses oeuvres, d'autrefois. Depuis des temps antiques on m'a établie dans ma position, depuis le début, depuis des temps antérieurs à la terre. J'ai été (enfantée)( féminin), quand il n'y avait pas de mer profonde,  quand il n'y avait pas de sources débordantes d'eau. Avant que les montagnes furent misent en place, avant les collines, j'ai été (enfantée)( Féminin),  alors qu'il n'avait fait la terre et ses champs, ou la première motte de son sol. Quand il a préparé le ciel, j'étais là. Quand il a dessiné l'horizon à la surface de l'eau, quand il a placé les nuages en haut, quand il fondé les sources des profondeurs, quand il a imposé à la mer un décret interdisant à son eau d'aller au delà de ce qu'il ordonnait, quand il a posé les fondement de la terre, j'étais alors près de lui comme (un habile ouvrier)( masculin). J'étais (celle) ( féminin) à qui il était particulièrement( attaché)( masculin), jour après jour. JE ME RÉJOUISSAIT TOUT LE TEMPS DEVANT LUI: je me réjouissait au sujet de sa terre devenue habitable et j'étais particulièrement (attachée) (comme une mère) aux fils des hommes. Esprit Saint COMME JÉSUS  LE FILS DIEU EST FÉMININ ET AUSSI COMME LE PÈRE MASCULIN CAR JÉHOVAH RESPECTE LE PRINCIPE DE L'OEDIPE DE LA VIE.
      LE FILS DE DIEU ÉTAIT COMME DÉTAILLÉ COMME UNE FEMME (VIERGE AVISEE) SOUMISE À DIEU ( ATTACHÉE) ( ATTACHÉ) À LUI EN TOUT TEMPS COMME UN ENFANT QUI AIME SON PÈRE. DANS LE verset 30 LÀ, IL MONTRE QU'IL EST UN HABILE OUVRIER. ALORS NOUS VOYONS QUE JESUS À CETTE ÉPOQUE était UN MÂLE TRAVAILLANT SA FÉMINITÉ, et sa MASCULINITÉ, pour quelle raison? Car Jéhovah est le Dieu Createur et Jésus est le complément de la création, IL EST LA LUMIÈRE , quand le Fils de Dieu réalisait les oeuvres que Jéhovah lui donnait, il travaillait sa masculinité (HOMME). Dans le verset 30 il, le Fils de Dieu, devient au masculin car il utilise un pronom masculin "Un." Alors le Fils de Dieu fut la première oeuvre de Dieu. Nous voyons ce même détaille dans sa dernière prière avec ses douze apôtres. En Jean 17:24 à  la fin du verset il est écris:  TU M'AS AIMÉ AVANT LA FONDATION DU MONDE. NOUS VOYONS ICI  QUE JÉSUS LUI MÊME DÉMONTRE QUE JÉHOVAH L'AIMAIT ET QU'IL ÉTAIT SA PREMIÈRE CRÉATION.  NOUS SAVONS QUE LE FILS DE DIEU SUIVAIT LES PAS DE SON PÈRE, CAR IL DIT: QU'IL ÉTAIT (ATTACHÉE)(féminin), AU FILS DES HOMMES. ALORS NOUS POUVONS AFFIRMER QUE JÉHOVAH NOUS AIMENT VRAIMENT CAR LE FILS AIME LES HOMMES ( femme et homme) PAR UNE ATTACHEMENT PARTICULIÈRE. COMME JÉHOVAH AIME SON FILS D'UN ATTACHEMENT PARTICULIER ( comme un Père)
      EN PROVERBE 8 : 30,31 LE FILS DE DIEU DÉMONTRE PAR SA PLEINE VOLONTÉ QU'IL SE RÉJOUISSAIT EN TOUT TEMPS AVEC SON PÈRE. IL AIMAIT ÊTRE AVEC LUI CAR IL DIT QU'IL ÉTAIT (ATTACHÉE et ATTACHÉ) EN PENSÉE (MASCULIN ET FÉMININ)
      À LUI, D'UNE MANIÈRE PARTICULIÈRE. ALORS NOUS POUVONS DISTINGUER QUE LE FILS AVAIT LE LIBRE ARBITRE ET AUSSI QU'IL AIMAIT JÉHOVAH CAR IL RESSENTAIT ÊTRE AIMÉ PAR SON PÈRE ET DIEU CRÉATEUR. 
      ALORS SI NOUS DISONS QUE JÉHOVAH EST UN DIEU JALOUX NOUS VOYONS ICI QUE LE FILS ÉTAIT HEUREUX ET NON EN PRISON OU DOMINÉ PAR DIEU D'UNE MANIÈRE POSSESSIVE. SON ATTACHEMENT À SON PÈRE ÉTAIT DE SA PROPRE VOLONTÉ. ÊTRE AVEC DIEU EST UN BONHEUR IMMENSE ET JÉSUS LE DÉMONTRE DANS CES VERSETS ET AUSSI QUE LE FILS PARTICIPAIT À L'OEUVRE DE SON PÈRE ET IL PARTICIPAIT À LA JOIE DU PÈRE ÉTERNEL ET VIVANT UN BONHEUR CONSTANT.
      (DANS LA LETTRE DE JEAN en Jean chapitre 1) JEAN nous révèle que Jésus participa à la création de toutes choses, il est devenu lumière  ( devenu UN PARTICIPANT EN TOUTES CHOSES DANS EXISTENCES DE TOUTES ÉLÉMENTS, QUE CONSTITUENT LA CREATION DE DIEU,  dans le monde physique de notre univers. Alors comme un enfant est enfantée par une mère, Jésus est une mère et un homme en action sur le modelage de tout ce qui fut créé sous la loi du Père Créateur de toutes choses , notre DIEU JÉHOVAH LE TOUT PUISSANT DONNA À SON FILS LA POSSIBILITÉ DE PARTICIPER AU DESSEIN DE DIEU CAR L'ESPRIT SAINT DE DIEU LUI DONNAIT LA PUISSANCE DE LE FAIRE ET DE PLUS DIEU PAR L'ESPRIT SAINT PRÉCISAIT TOUTES CRÉATIONS DU FILS SOUS LA LOI DE SON DESSEIN.
      LA TERME JALOUX EST UNE QUALITÉ DE DIEU. VOIR LE NOM JALOUX EN MAJUSCULE, EST QUE JÉHOVAH EST L'UNIQUE DIEU DE TOUT L'UNIVERS ET LE SEUL QUI A TOUJOUR EXISTÉ et LE SEUL QUI CONNAÎT TOUTES ASSEMBLAGES DE TOUTES CHOSES CAR SON FILS OINT FUT UN PARTICIPANT AU DESSEIN DE DIEU.
      COMMENT NOUS ENFANTS DE DIEU, POUVONS NOUS BÉNÉFICIER DE LA JALOUSIE DE NOTRE CRÉATEUR  ET DE LA PROTECTION DE SON NOM "JALOUX"
      NOUS QUI AIMONS JÉHOVAH, POUR BÉNÉFICIER DE SA QUALITÉ PROTECTRICE NOUS DEVONS SUIVRE CELUI QUI FUT LE PREMIER CRÉÉ DE LA CRÉATION. CES PAROLES NOUS INSPIRENT DE VOIR QUE LE FILS DE DIEU VIVAIT ET VIT TOUJOUR UN BONHEUR ULTIME AVEC NOTRE DIEU CRÉATEUR QUI EST JÉHOVAH. JÉSUS QUAND IL ÉTAIT SUR LA TERRE A DÉMONTRÉ LES PRINCIPES LES PLUS IMPORTANT POUR CONNAÎTRE LA JOIE D'ÊTRE AIMÉ ET ATTACHÉ À NOTRE CRÉATEUR, ÊTRE AIMER PAR JÉHOVAH.
      Jésus à dit: Jean 8 :32 et proverbe 2 :1 à 6 Vous connaîtrez la vérité et la vérité vous libèrera. Quand aux versets de ( proverbe 2:1 à 6) ce passage nous dévoile que nous devons avoir le désir de l'écouter, avoir une oreille attentive à sa sagesse, CRAINDRE JÉHOVAH, ouvrir son coeur à lui, de montrer notre intention à le connaître et demander par la prière la sagesse, l'intelligence et le discernement. 
      EN EXODE 34:14  NOUS DEVONS AIMER JÉHOVAH NOTRE DIEU ET DE L'ADORER LUI SEUL ET PERSONNE D'AUTRE, CAR IL N'Y AUCUN AUTRE DIEU, QUE LUI SEUL. ALORS NOUS VOULONS ÊTRE AIMÉ DE JÉHOVAH, NOUS DEVONS L'AIMER COMME UN FILS ET UNE FILLES DE TOUT CE QUI EST EN NOUS D'UN AMOUR VÉRITABLE.
      En (Proverbe 2: 7 à 11) Jéhovah précise sa jalousie,comme qualité positive, et démontre à qui Jéhovah partage la sagesse et ,à qui, il donne Sa protection. Lisons ces versets ensemble, il est écris: Il garde précieusement sa sagesse pratique pour les hommes droits; il est un bouclier pour ceux qui se conduisent avec intégrité. Il veille sur le sentier des justes, et il protègera le chemin des fidèles. Alors tu comprendras aussi ce qui est juste et droit et équitable et tu comprendras quelle est la bonne voie à suivre. Quand la sagesse entrera dans ton coeur et que la connaissance deviendra agréable à ton âme la capacité de réflexion veillera sur toi et te préservera tout les jours de ta vie.
      Nous voyons dans ces versets que Jéhovah est attaché aux hommes femmes et enfants, qui ont des qualités particulières.  Il garde précieusement la sagesse pratique pour les hommes droits. Jéhovah use de son adjectif de protection (Jaloux) de Dieu aux hommes qui manifestent,  non seulement la qualité de la droiture mais aussi celle de la qualité de l'intégrité. Il est un bouclier "" Jaloux"" contre le méchant . 
      JÉHOVAH EST UN DIEU JALOUX COMME RELATE EXODE 34:14: JÉHOVAH DEMANDE UN ATTACHEMENT SANS PARTAGE. JÉHOVAH EST UN DIEU DONT SON NOM EST JALOUX  CAR IL PARTAGE LA SAGESSE DE LA VÉRITÉ, DE L'INTELLIGENCE ET DU DISCERNEMENT VÉRITABLE AUX HOMMES , FEMMES ET ENFANTS AUX COEUR DROIT ET QUI AGISSENT AVEC INTÉGRITÉ VENANT DU COEUR ET D'UN AMOUR SINCÈRE .
      À TOUT CEUX QUI VEULENT DEVENIR ENFANT DE JÉHOVAH , LE SEUL VRAI DIEU, RESTONS COURAGEUX, OBÉISSANT, INTÈGRE, AVEC UNE CRAINTE SALUTAIRE DEVANT LE SEUL VRAI ET UNIQUE DIEU ET QUE NOTRE AMOUR POUR JÉHOVAH, SOIT FERME POUR AINSI BÉNÉFICIER DE VIVRE LA PROMESSE DE NOTRE ROI JÉSUS CHRIST SON OINT ET AINSI DE VIVRE HEUREUX DANS LE PARADIS DE LA PROMESSE DE VIVRE SUR UNE TERRE NOUVELLE  POUR TOUJOUR. PSAUME 37:29 .
      NE RENONÇONS DE AUCUNE MANIÈRE DE SERVIR NOTRE DIEU AVEC VIGUEUR D'UN COEUR REMPLIS D'AMOUR VÉRITABLE.
      ERICO

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