Why are women part of the 144,000?

[Jack Ryan]

Not being sexist.

If the Governing Body want to interpret it so literally, it should only be virgin men according to revelation

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

8 hours ago, Jack Ryan said:

Not being sexist.

If the Governing Body want to interpret it so literally, it should only be virgin men according to revelation

Lol my wife and I had the same question, if women aren't currently allowed to do much at all within earthly organisation apart from cleaning, witnessing and other non important jobs what jobs will they be allowed to do in the heavenly realm perhaps they will be genderless once they become spiritual entities my best guess... But then again the angels in Noah's day decided to become man instead of woman so there must be an inclination or a gender identification within spiritual entities. Too deep this subject 😳...

[Arauna]

It is fitting that our future government will represent all races and both genders.  Resurrected ones will be represented by these king/priests who were also imperfect in the past.

Women's makeup is different in a biological, emotional and physical way to men - so it is good that someone will understand how it feels to be a woman even if they are now in heaven and no longer have gender. 

All those who receive heavenly life is judged by jehovah to receive this mercy. Most have proven faithful under very different circumstances - such as being a woman or living in a different era or country. 

[Matthew9969]

So women will become jewish male virgins...isn't that a pagan belief Arauna?

[Srecko Sostar]

7 hours ago, Arauna said:

so it is good that someone will understand how it feels to be a woman even if they are now in heaven and no longer have gender. 

...... nothing against your comment, just this remind me on "explanation" from past publication - Women gender of some of those in 144000 class, while were been on Earth, will help non-gender Kings and Priests to "help" people on Earth. 

So, it seems how: fact that they have "spiritual bodies" after resurrection, and fact that they are "perfect spiritual beings"  and in Heaven, is not enough for them to understand people's need. There is a necessity that some of 144000 class individuals have had women's hormones in past life. :)))

[Witness]

After Jesus was resurrected, he still appeared on earth as a man. John 21:14   In God’s Kingdom the priests/kings who will “rule ON the earth”, (Rev 5:9,10) and serve God in heaven, could still appear as either female or male.  Rev 22:1-5  (John 1:51; Heb 1:6,7)  They are to imitate Christ, their Head and High Priest/”Husband”, becoming one with  him.1 Cor 12:27; Rom 12:5; Gal 3:29   Whether male or female, their kingdom rule will be based on the love, peace and wisdom that they have come to know through Jesus Christ.  Their “offspring” to come, are the rest of Abraham’s seed, that they help, nurture, and teach God’s decrees in the Kingdom, by bringing the dwelling of God to earth.  Mal 2:7; 1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22;Rev 21:2,3; Gen 26:4;28:14

Jesus had such compassion for people when on the earth, and God will choose and teach those whom he deems faithful out of the called ones, as Christ’s Bride; who will also display the same compassion as Christ, whether they are male or female.    1 Cor 2:16; Rom 15:5; Rev 17:14

Interestingly, the October 2019 study magazine made the confident  statement that “During the great tribulation, a change will take place regarding the brothers who take the lead on earth. At some point, all anointed ones who are still on earth will be gathered to heaven to share in the war of Armageddon. (Matt. 24:31; Rev. 2:26, 27) This means that the Governing Body will no longer be with us on earth.  WT 10/2019 

Wow.  Such insight!  They KNOW who will rule with Christ!  David Splane spent some time warning the anointed about the possibility of being found"foolish" at Jesus return, but apparently that fear is no longer.  These insightful men have been given new light concerning the last days.  (Matt 25)   How they hurry and plan for Armageddon to arrive.

How horrible it will be for those
    who string people along with lies and empty promises,
    whose lives are sinful.
¹⁹         They say,
            “Let God hurry and quickly do his work
                so that we may see what he has in mind.
            Let the plan of the Holy One of Israel happen quickly
                so that we may understand what he is doing.”

²⁰ How horrible it will be for those
    who call evil good and good evil,
    who turn darkness into light and light into darkness,
    who turn what is bitter into something sweet
        and what is sweet into something bitter.

²¹ How horrible it will be for those
    who think they are wise
        and consider themselves to be clever.

²² How horrible it will be for those
    who are heroes at drinking wine,
    who are champions at mixing drinks,
²³     who declare the guilty innocent for a bribe,
    who take away the rights of righteous people.  Isa 5:18-23

 

[Arauna]

On 9/6/2019 at 4:53 PM, Matthew9969 said:

So women will become jewish male virgins...isn't that a pagan belief Arauna?

Did not understand your question...... I did not speak of virgins.......  I have read the Quran, hadith and sirah and speak some Arabic. I also lived in Sweden and know the similarity between nordic Valhallah and pagan teachings of Islam.

I see no relevance in my answer to your jumping to conclusions my dear - so explain yourself please so I can correct any misunderstandings.

[Arauna]

On 9/6/2019 at 7:51 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

 

I am almost 67 years old....... but I still remember many of my reactions which could have been related to hormones - especially my quick emotional reactions.  I think older men also remember many of their  reactions and now look back at this time with more wisdom and maturity. 

Apart from judging humans by applying Jehovahs' righteous principles I do think that memories of our own imperfections and situations (for example: which situations were very difficult to show subjection to a husband ) help us even now (here on earth) to not judge others too harshly......

 

[Witness]

On 9/2/2019 at 1:58 PM, Jack Ryan said:

Not being sexist.

If the Governing Body want to interpret it so literally, it should only be virgin men according to revelation

Maybe (in secret) they are interpreting it literally.  It was just brought to my attention; when has anyone seen one of the “144,000” portrayed as female in WT pictures?

Samuel Herd made mention once, that women’s brains are 10 percent smaller than men.  Obviously, he can’t envision women ruling as “kings” and priests in the Kingdom.  Gal 3:28; Rev 5:9,10   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9cGBPvfOYI

 

And, in this picture, these guys are all clones of each other.

 

 

[Arauna]

A pretty old video quoted above - from a forgotten era. 

My parents were born in 1920s. Most women did not work until after WW2 because women did the work of men during the war. Even after the war the consensus was that women were made to be subject to men and had to stay at home with children.  My mother was fortunate   She was a nursing sister and helped my father in his practise. Freedom of women and children came with contraception and flower power of the sixties.

So to me it is natural , due to the times, that brothers would  interpret scriptures in the same way as society. Reflect the conservative values if society.

I attended a wedding talk last week and it was really good! The brother compared the wife as  "helper" with God being our "helper " - same word used. 

[Witness]

6 hours ago, Arauna said:

So to me it is natural , due to the times, that brothers would  interpret scriptures in the same way as society. Reflect the conservative values if society.

Makes sense, except for their view of the ruling kings and priests.  I believe society has surpassed their determined viewpoint.   It's all about man power.