Large Group of Native Americans in Mexico Violently Expelled from their Homeland Due to Converting to the Jehovah's Witnesses Religion

[The Librarian]

 

 

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[Srecko Sostar]

Of course, it is sad and crazy to shun people because they changed their standpoint, perspective on life or religion.

But (almost) every social group doing exactly this same thing. Even "the most religiously advanced and spiritual mature group" as JW members are, doing the same thing. :))

[Melinda Mills]

Something does not sound right about this report or something wrong with their heads. Never heard of Witnesses who were iconoclasts. Heard of Christians destroying their own magic books  (Acts  19:18,19)  but not property of others or shared property.  Then again it is reported that some strange strategies were used to establish the work there

 

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[Arauna]

On 9/28/2019 at 7:36 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

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It is not the same thing.   We do not expel people from the area they are living in or deny them a living. 

[Srecko Sostar]

7 hours ago, Arauna said:

It is not the same thing.   We do not expel people from the area they are living in or deny them a living. 

 

On 9/28/2019 at 5:36 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

Of course, it is sad and crazy to shun people because they changed their standpoint, perspective on life or religion.

But (almost) every social group doing exactly this same thing. Even "the most religiously advanced and spiritual mature group" as JW members are, doing the same thing. :))

As you can see, i made accent with word "shun" on custom of JW org. Shunning is usual practice inside JW org.

But we are also aware of some practice when JW's ask dfd member to live the house (not area). Various Gradation of "expelling people" because of religious (and other) reasons is visible in many social groups.  

[Arauna]

If you belong to a golf club and break the rules you may get expelled from the group...... there are many other worldly clubs that do the same to keep their good reputation. When people join the club they know the rules.

If you are unrepentent - and did a gross sin -  you are saying the person must still have full rights?  Even after being baptised and he knows the requirements?  Worldly organizations recognise the need for shunning but we must be different?  Anything goes?  Even if God gives this  instruction for unrepentent people?   Remember - we only do this for people who PERSIST in unrepentent behaviour - who are hardened in their sin - because we first try to win them back.

[Matthew9969]

I don't understand that language, but if I get the just.... at least they are still alive. A lot of men and women are killed in other countries for converting to Christianity. I wonder why we don't hear of jw's being martyred for their belief?

[Srecko Sostar]

6 hours ago, Arauna said:

If you belong to a golf club and break the rules you may get expelled from the group......

That part is clear to me. 

What is not the same/similar in this illustration, if we go to compare golf club member and JW member?

I suppose that golf club member will say "Hello" to ex-golf club member on the street or will go to coffee together. :))

You all know the fact how I am ex-JW member. But many JW members on this forum (and some in my home town) communicate with me despite "official shunning rule". Perhaps to many of you it is easier to have virtual contacts with ex-JW's, and maybe giving you some feeling of "proper distance" because of this sort of communication or because we didn't have personal previous contacts as JW members. Or, you looking in different way on some JW who was dfd for adultery in comparison to some who left congregation by own will because of doctrinal disagreements, etc.

Well, when golf club (or school) expelled member (or pupil) from institution, they can feel some sort of animosity or disappointment or even angry on him, but majority of them will not treat him as JW's doing with theirs ex-members.

[Arauna]

Thanks for informing me you are ex-jw.

[Arauna]

On 10/3/2019 at 10:30 PM, Srecko Sostar said:

but majority of them will not treat him as JW's doing with theirs ex-members.

I know of high society schools and organizations where the shame is very serious and one can forget to ever associate with other members again.

On internet now they dox you, they spread lies about you, and you can lose your job etc  and your children are threatened -  if a certain group do not like you or you said something they do not like.

You are either in denial, very naive, or just desperate at winning a point. Get realistic.  In your small world only JWs are "bad" because they dare to have standards you do not like.

 

[Srecko Sostar]

9 hours ago, Arauna said:

I know of high society schools and organizations where the shame is very serious and one can forget to ever associate with other members again.

Does this sort of behavior, that other society groups shows in their environment, is also Bible based and approved by God, no matter  of fact that they are not JW's?  Can we conclude how they also doing God's will, no matter of their spiritual position before that same God and because they belong, or not belong, to some religion, but not to JW religion? 

9 hours ago, Arauna said:

You are either in denial, very naive, or just desperate at winning a point. Get realistic.  In your small world only JWs are "bad" because they dare to have standards you do not like.

If i would judge myself, i would agree with picture how i am very naive :)) But we are not speaking about me or you. We making observation on JW religion, their history and present time. My world is "small" :)) and i will not return back any idea about your "world", because that is not of my concern. I want to speak about "Ideas", not about people and their's "small or big worlds". 

We can talk about "JW standards"and "WT Society standards".

 I hope you will accept this humble direction about/for our future conversation. :))

[Arauna]

You have a one track OCD mind. Many organizations shun... but you only criticize JWs.

I fully understand why you do not get the point - blinded by OCD..... that is why you spend most of your time here.  Get a life!