“Dad I’m not in any rush. Jesus was 29 when he got baptized”

[Jack Ryan]

So at family worship my PIMI husband was talking about baptism with my son. He asked him when he would like to get baptized and my son said “Dad I’m not in any rush. Jesus was 29 when he got baptized”.

I did not coach him or teach him this. I was just so thrilled that he is thinking more for himself and using logic.

Also, what the hell was Jesus doing from age 10-30 before his ministry anyways?

But dont think about Jesus getting himself and his family financially secured for 10 years before spending 3 preaching... that is thinking that is not tolerated by the borg!

[Arauna]

19 minutes ago, Jack Ryan said:

think about Jesus getting himself and his family financially secured for 10 years before spending 3

Since girls can now get married at age of nine or ten I guess these views will soon change.  Why am I making this statement?  Because society changes and the age of a man (when he is viewed as mature enough for highly important decisions by free will) ) or when a woman  is viewed as mature is constantly changing. ....  our current circumstances are in the process of changing. 

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

Well the older the kid gets the harder to get that kid to be baptized.  No underage should get baptized as the price of changing their mind later is too high. 

[Jack Ryan]

@Arauna  So you are saying God's standards on child baptism have changed?

Because if OUR standards as humans have obviously changed then that means that we weren't or aren't following God's will at some point. Correct?

One could always make the argument like Watchtower always has that we should follow how things were done back in the first century Christian congregation. = Jesus set the example = Men should be baptized at the age of Jesus.

 

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

Is not that we weren't following God's will it is just the light gets brighter 😆😆😆

[Arauna]

1 hour ago, Jack Ryan said:

So you are saying God's

Do not put words in my mouth. You know ...... societies changes all the time and their values also. Soo wrong attitudes should be corrected so people can use their lives to worship God.  A person who is preaching and living a clean life will not try to shy away from dedicating himself to God. 

[Matthew9969]

Does that mean Jesus got his drivers license when he was 31?

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

It means he got a mule at 31 😆😆😆

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

The great thing about that, being Jesus, he  did not have to use a 2x4" timber upside the mule's head to get him to talk!

[Arauna]

4 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

that mean Jesus got his drivers license when he was 31?

Lol - .... how fast does a donkey go?

[Patiently waiting for Truth]

The GB NEED children to get baptised to try to keep them in the JW Org.  Once baptised the threats start to kick in. 

We know that lots of people are LEAVING the JW Org, so GB are trying to keep the numbers up. 

A person can still be a 'publisher' on the ministry whilst not baptised, so why would anyone want to push their children into doing something that they are not able to comprehend ?

Obvious answer, it's because the threats kick in when baptised. The Org has control over a baptised person. The 'rules' can only be pushed on someone that is baptised.  The Elders can be pushy about baptised ones doing more hours in the ministry. Pushy about the way a person dresses. Pushy about association with non believers. But the Elders have no say on what an unbaptised person does, even though they might try. 

 

[JJJ-AUSTRALIA]

5 hours ago, Matthew9969 said:

Does that mean Jesus got his drivers license when he was 31?

 

22 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

The GB NEED children to get baptised to try to keep them in the JW Org.  Once baptised the threats start to kick in. 

We know that lots of people are LEAVING the JW Org, so GB are trying to keep the numbers up. 

A person can still be a 'publisher' on the ministry whilst not baptised, so why would anyone want to push their children into doing something that they are not able to comprehend ?

Obvious answer, it's because the threats kick in when baptised. The Org has control over a baptised person. The 'rules' can only be pushed on someone that is baptised.  The Elders can be pushy about baptised ones doing more hours in the ministry. Pushy about the way a person dresses. Pushy about association with non believers. But the Elders have no say on what an unbaptised person does, even though they might try. 

 

I think even when we are baptized, the watchtower elders or CO has no power over anyone, the power they think they have is because we give them that power, is not like we have signed a contract or anything.