If a son is not to pay for the sins of the father, why did we have to suffer for the original sin? Wouldn't that be making everyone pay for the sin of one man?

[Jack Ryan 728]

Maybe we are paying for the sin of a woman?

[TrueTomHarley 4,428]

8 hours ago, Jack Ryan said:

Maybe we are paying for the sin of a woman?

The picture below addresses a fundamental problem with women, as many men have pointed out.

[James Thomas Rook Jr. 3,713]

Question:  "If a son is not to pay for the sins of the father, why did we have to suffer for the original sin? Wouldn't that be making everyone pay for the sin of one man?"

It's really quite simple ... Adam and Eve could not pass onto their children genetic attributes that they themselves did not possess.

It is not God who gave all future generations a severely limited lifespan ... it was their parents.

Actions have consequences.

 

[4Jah2me 727]

It is not God who gave all future generations a severely limited lifespan ... it was their parents.

But didn't God reduce that life span to 120 years then 70 years ? 

3 score year + ten. 

[James Thomas Rook Jr. 3,713]

9 minutes ago, 4Jah2me said:

But didn't God reduce that life span to 120 years then 70 years ? 

I don't remember that, but then again, I do not remember what my first wife looked like.

Do you have a reference, and some context that might be self explanatory?

[4Jah2me 727]

@James Thomas Rook Jr. 

NWT Genesis 6 v 3 

Then Jehovah said: “My spirit will not tolerate man indefinitely,

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 because he is only flesh.

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 Accordingly, his days will amount to 120 years.”

NWT  Psalm 90 v 10

¹⁰  The span of our life is 70 years,Or 80 if one is especially strong.

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But they are filled with trouble and sorrow;They quickly pass by, and away we fly. 

@TrueTomHarley Mr Harley, one good point about JW Org. Easy access to the Bible for reference when conversing on here. Though for personal use i do cross ref' it with others of course.

Psalm 90 v 10 

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The days of our lives are seventy years; And if by reason of strength they are eighty years, Yet their boast is only labor and sorrow; For it is soon cut off, and we fly away.

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The length of our days is seventy years—or eighty if we are strong—yet their pride is but labor and sorrow, for they quickly pass, and we fly away.

[Srecko Sostar 1,882]

Death was punishment for Adam sin. I don't recall what verse said Adam and Eve will live this or that number of years before they die. Verse that say: “in the day that you eat from it you shall surely die"  not giving specific number of how long human will live. "Day". This is something that is under interpretations. No one know for sure of what day JHVH thought about. And what Moses thought when wrote word "day" or whatever that word had been. And what did translators understand later, word "day" is. WT Society interpreting day as 1000  years. But that is not only calculation that word "day" have. Genesis context also speaking about "day", seven of them. And no one of bible scholars today in WT Society don't say how such day is 1000 years long. Adam lived in Genesis context, not in some other Bible book context when one day is one year or other similar and not similar parable, prophetic day - year etc.

[James Thomas Rook Jr. 3,713]

Just a passing thought ... could be the Day that was the "Rest Day", which if  creative day, and the rest day are actually 500,000,000 solar years (3.5 billion year old Earth, divided by 7 "days" - 500 million solar years), then A dam and Eve DID die DURING ( perhaps at the very beginning ??) that  500,000,000 year day..

My understanding of the meaning of that scripture could be accurately paraphrased as: "..Sometime during the epoch that you eat of the tree, you will surely die.", a pronouncement Jehovah made before there were any human garden rats running sround. ... as they were born OUTSIDE the Garden of Eden.

Only a guess ... please feel free to disprove the logic.

[Srecko Sostar 1,882]

One ordinary day in a Paradise.

Eve said: "Adam, what shall we do today? If you have plan go fishing, don't stay whole day by the river". I have new recipe, and will prepare fine supper, but you have to come before day ends. Just watch at the sun and when sun come two ell measure above the top of the red tree, that is moment when you have quickly walk back for meal. 

[TrueTomHarley 4,428]

2 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Death was punishment for Adam sin. I don't recall what verse said Adam and Eve will live this or that number of years before they die.

The fan goes dead the instant you pull the plug.

That doesn’t mean the blades seize up. They may spin for awhile. But the fan is dead.

[4Jah2me 727]

7 minutes ago, TrueTomHarley said:

The fan goes dead the instant you pull the plug.

That doesn’t mean the blades seize up. They may spin for awhile. But the fan is dead.

Yes, they were 'dead' in God's eyes though they still lived human lives. 

[Srecko Sostar 1,882]

1 hour ago, TrueTomHarley said:

The fan goes dead the instant you pull the plug.

That doesn’t mean the blades seize up. They may spin for awhile. But the fan is dead.

You helped me a lot to understand. Thanks :)))

... how many days or years dead fan spins, in your example?