Jehovah’s Witnesses: Members Must Reject COVID-19 Plasma Treatment… Or Else

[Anna]

22 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Ham is made from things that used to go "oink."

 

Well yes I know that! 😂 But the question is: is pork protein different from beef protein? I mean the actual protein molecules.

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

Of course it is! ... you can taste the difference!

[Arauna]

5 hours ago, Anna said:

But the question is: is pork protein different from beef protein

My brother is the scientist. I learnt to do blood tests at the institute where he was a toxicologist (43 years ago)

I took blood from about 5 sheep every day for testing......using the same syringe on each sheep - no disinfection of  the syringe was necessary. We tested for liver damage regarding their diet. No infection on any of them the next day.

Once a week we did a blood test on one small pig.  I boiled the syringe before every use and drew blood.  By the next Friday the mark where the needle entered was still there.  Pigs get infections very quickly  - their flesh is the closest to humans.

After this excercise I realized why jehovah gave the law about pork to the Israelites.

According to 1 cor 15..... the flesh of  animals, birds, fish  is different. I presume mammals are the same....

[Anna]

I am not a scientist, but I know similar material is made up of the same building blocks, so it figures that all meat, in other words muscle fibre is made up of the same types of building blocks (protein molecules) to a lesser or greater degree. So my point was, both pork and beef, or any other meat, when broken down to its simplest form, will be the same....

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

12 hours ago, Arauna said:

Once a week we did a blood test on one small pig.  I boiled the syringe before every use and drew blood.  By the next Friday the mark where the needle entered was still there.  Pigs get infections very quickly  - their flesh is the closest to humans.

I came inside the house to get my van keys to get my tools and work on the fence, but I feel like having an asperger's syndrome attack, as the keys were next to my laptop keyboard, open to the Archive.

I will know more when I finish.

About your post in general, that's why when I get a wound, I do not disinfect or bandage it unless it's important not to offend anyone while bleeding. My theory is that the bleeding will mechanically wash out the majority of harmful bacteria and dirt, rust, or whatever, and whatever bacteria is left over will act as an impromptu vaccination.. If the wound gets red and inflamed, that is a good sign that forces are being marshaled to the area. If it spreads, I will use alcohol, or gasoline.

I once had a chain saw jump back on me and cut my left index finger tip, just above the first joint, almost completely off. ( My stupidity, for trying to cut a hole with the "point" of the chain saw, which I knew better, but like most men, have delusions of immortality ...)

I put the fingertip back on, getting blood all over me, the ground, my clothes, and the chain saw, and held it in place for awhile,  Then I duct-taped it in place and went on with my work. Meanwhile my eldest son came home, and seeing the bloody mess, exclaimed "what happened!". I explained that Dad was being stupid, and don't be stupid like me, and showed him my duct taped finger.

It healed back perfectly, except at a slight 15 degree or so angle, and I still have full feeling in the fingertip, which took about three years to fully return.

The point of this shaggy-dog story is that I agree with our assessment, based on hard evidence.

I also have a blind dog that also has diabetes, and we giver her two insulin shots a day, from the same needle, 12 hours apart, and she has never gotten an infection, even though we do not "prep" the injection site, injecting right through her fur.

As far as pig flesh being closest to humans, an older Brother I knew from many years ago, had a pig replacement heart valve, and it is my understanding that among those who have eaten human flesh, they write that it tastes so much like ham, that it is commonly referred to as "Long Pig". 

I suppose that those in Jerusalem who ate humans when the city was under siege, and they were starving (presumably war dead who bled out (?)) had a lot of experience with such things before it was over.

According to Jehovah's stated comments and directives on the matter, although he lamented the desperation of those starving who to preserve their own lives ate those that died, he never prohibited it in any way, shape, or form.  To the best of what is actually written about the subject, Jehovah has no objection to us eating human flesh ... but recognizes the general taboo cultural abhorrence of the practice.

Of course, his prohibition on blood is crystal clear, by directive, and in many related examples of his jealous ownership of all hemoglobin based blood from atmospheric air breathers ( not fish, as an example... which were never "bled", before eating.) as his exclusive personal property.

It is interesting how the general population, adhering to their cultural acclimation ... thinks exactly the opposite.of what Jehovah actually had written.

But then again ... never in the history of civilization has the majority in any group of people EVER been right.

A good example is the six trillion dollar fantasy that is the coronavirus epidemic.

So far .... 55,000 deaths have been attributed to this ... but to keep the free money flowing, they even count traffic accidents if the deaths test positive for coronavirus.

I am supposed to be outside repairing fence ...

 

[Arauna]

9 hours ago, Anna said:

meat, when broken down to its simplest form

Ah, understand...21 aminio acids combined in different DNA combinations to make different kinds of flesh/tissue.

[Anna]

59 minutes ago, Arauna said:

Ah, understand...21 aminio acids combined in different DNA combinations to make different kinds of flesh/tissue.

Yes! And that is why I think the chart with the ham sandwich that JTR posted is not comparable with the chart showing fractions of blood. Because the ham sandwich is made up of ham, bread and the vegetables, so that is like the blood made up of red cells, white cells platelets and plasma. But each of those four components of blood are then fractioned into even smaller parts. So in the same way the ham, wheat/rye and tomato/lettuce should be broken down into smaller parts, like for example the ham into protein molecules, same for the other ingredients....and then it really would be unidentifiable as a ham sandwich, just like fractions of the 4 components of blood are no longer identifiable as blood.

[Arauna]

8 hours ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

Jerusalem who ate humans when

Although gory, I get the gist of your discussion above. I do think our bodies are wonderful biological machines and our healing properties exceptional. Unfortunately we often interfere with it's natural abilities by bad diet, bad practices, and so forth.

Wild animals often have severe injuries, wounds or even parasites.. and they do manage to survive. They clean their own wounds if they can with tongues which have enzymes, and  bacteria. But I know too little of mouth bacteria to really be scientific.  I have never seen a crocodile lick itself though and I am sure anything can die from the bacteria present in its mouth after getting a slight wound.  The wound will have to be properly tended.

About eating humans...... there are a number of factors to consider:  if they were killed in a air crash and a limb or body part was so severely severed that blood flowed out to make it kosher/bloodless, one could take a chance and eat it. It would be better to cook it so as to kill the human viruses and parasites before ingesting without breaking the law of jehovah - shocking as it may seem. It is not what goes into the body but what comes out which is a sin.

The fierce masaegetae tribe (who killed Cyrus the Great in battle) used to eat each other and it was considered an honor.  When a tribe member felt it was time to die, they would offer him up and make a feast. They also used to drink their horse blood - breaking the everlasting covenant given to Noah.

Siege of Jerusalem: the shock of supposedly pious Jews 'killing" their own children to eat them, not bleeding it and ingesting the blood, touching the human dead (making one unclean) and eating the unclean, was shocking! They were under Jehovahs law..... jehovah is a God of life not of death and humans are the crown of creation.

Touching the carcass of unclean animals or clean animals that died of itself was unclean  One was allowed to eat a clean animal that had died of itself and bled, one could cook and eat it and one would be unclean until evening.  Lev 11: 39 & 40. So Jehovahs laws were not draconian but the law against ingesting blood is universal...... part of everlasting covenant made  with Noah when eating flesh.  Isaiah 24:5.  Gen 9: 3- 12

Here it refers to whole blood........ but when one bleeds a dead animal there is separation in the carcass of blood and water (white and red blood) and minute bits of blood is left in the carcass.  So one would not get technical about the particles still in the carcass. It is the act of obedience to jehovah that is important..... that one respects the life of the animal and life of all persons. 

[Arauna]

50 minutes ago, Anna said:

then it really would be unidentifiable as a ham sandwich, just like fractions of the 4 components of blood are no longer identifiable as blo

(Sorry, it is hard for me to copy your entire quote with my fingers)

I have not thought of it this way before...... but it makes sense. 

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

I missed the part Arauna referred to that in Jerusalem the people murdered their children .... somehow I had the idea that they were killed when boulders were catapulted over the city walls, or they died by enemy action. Later I will go back and re-read that account.

My ham sandwich example was intended just to be something to think about ... a rough analogy ... not a molecular dissertation.

Of course, clam chowder is made from little animals that have no arms or legs, or even eyes.

...in such a case, easier to be a victim of circumstance .....

[Arauna]

20 minutes ago, James Thomas Rook Jr. said:

had the idea that they were killed when boulders were catapulted

That was possible too! But josephus refers to a pious woman who everyone respected before, who ate her child.

During 607 siege they also ate their children... but many were used to the pagan rituals of offering up their children in fire and were used to the smell of burning flesh to false gods.

What was bad about this is that they had no place to bury their dead in the heat...... they threw the bodies over the wall to get rid of it. And babylonian soldiers catapulted the dead bodies with swollen bellies back into the city - creating terrible pandemonium because wherever parts of bodies spattered was immediately unclean.  They must have been in a mentally very dark place. ....

[James Thomas Rook Jr.]

... and here I was wondering if it was socially acceptable to have a freezer full of Santa's Reindeer ....