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On 5/15/2016 at 7:03 PM, Queen Esther said:

WHO  has  the  power  to  stop  that  GUY ?  ;o)  No  one  has  roughly  the  time  for  reading  his  long  gushes ! 

Dear Queen Esther, he is quoting (not all is verbatim) what the organization has written - its history...and your history, as a JW.


8 hours ago, Queen Esther said:




They both together, promise eternal life.  

‘Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me."  John 14:1


"Don’t you believe that I am in the Father, and that the Father is in me? The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is the Father, living in me, who is doing His work."  John 14:1


Then they asked him, ‘Where is your father?’ ‘You do not know me or my Father,’ Jesus replied. ‘If you knew me, you would know my Father also.'    John 8:19


And yes, he can promise eternal life by our believing in him.

After Jesus said this, he looked towards heaven and prayed:  Jesus said to her, ‘I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live, even though they die"  John 11:25


‘Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent."  John 17:1-3


"Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life."  John 5:24


He then brought them out and asked, ‘Sirs, what must I do to be saved?’  31 They replied, ‘Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved – you and your household.’  Acts 16:30,31

Jesus is

‘“the stone you builders rejected,
    which has become the cornerstone.”

12 Salvation is found in no one else, for there is no other name under heaven given to mankind by which we must be saved.’  Acts 4:11,12


"So Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.  Heb 9:28


For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 1 Cor 15:22







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Which quote or reference is WRONG?   I know you guys are NOT allowed to think for yourselves. ie:   1983 "Avoid independent thinking...questioning the counsel that is provided by God's visible organization." (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 22) 1983 "Fight against independent thinking." (Watchtower, Jan. 15, 1983 pg. 27 )     But, i quote YOUR sources. What grudge? I am just sharing the truth from the watchtower!

Are you ashamed of what the watchtower has said?


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On 5/16/2016 at 6:36 AM, Queen Esther said:

We  are  not  in  the  1900- years  -  we  are  in  the  2100 - century....

Sorry to interrupt this way of reasoning you display, because by such logic we can ask, why to talking about Bible and all that stories from old age, .... that were written much, much longer ago than it is 1900th ??  

Speaking about past WT publications contents, shows people of today (JW and non JW)  how shall look like the future for WT Society, and what people can expect from this Organization about teachings and internal rules.


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On 5/16/2016 at 7:36 AM, Queen Esther said:

I never allow anyone to cut my own thinking ! ONLY Jehovah❤️

 As a group, we willingly submit ourselves to the direction given by the Governing Body and cooperate with the appointed elders in the congregations. In such ways, we demonstrate our acceptance of God’s way of ruling.

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This much about Cut of Own Thinking :))) Or you belong to rebellious individuals who never allow elders to tell you how and what to do ... in the name of God and Worldwide Unity ??  :))

....... and this quote is not from 1900th but from 2010 :))

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On 6/28/2019 at 1:04 PM, Queen Esther said:



I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand. I and the Father are one. - John

And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. - 1 John

... but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord. - Romans

I am the Alʹpha and the O·meʹga, the first and the last, the beginning and the end.......These are the things that he says, ‘the First and the Last,’ who became dead and came to life again: - Revelation

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. {2} He was in the beginning with God. {3} All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made. {4} In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. - John


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On 6/28/2019 at 1:22 PM, Queen Esther said:

Its  a  gift  from  Jehovah,  NOT  a  promise.  Nobody  can be  sure....

But Queen Esther, God’s Word has always held out promises.  His covenants with His people are promises, which is what “covenant” means. Lev 26:9,12; Acts 2:39; Gal 3:18; 4:28  The coming of Jesus fulfilled the law covenant/promise.  And, a new one has been enacted, the New Covenant promise of eternal life in Christ.  Acts 13:23,32 

God always promised His people life and protection if they served Him according to his decrees.  Deut 11:13-15  He made it very clear then how to do that, and He makes it very clear today.  If we acknowledge the gift of life as coming from Christ, we can receive it by obeying Jesus’ teachings,  That is God’s promise.   James 1:21

Luke 11:28 – Blessed, rather, are those who hear the Word of God, and obey it.

It seems as if you believe the scriptures provided here, can’t be relied on as a promise of life.   Whose words weigh in with you more, those of your leaders, or those of Christ?  1 Tim 4:16

“Anyone who does not remain in Christ's teaching but goes beyond it does not have God. The one who remains in that teaching, this one has both the Father and the Son.” 2 John 1:9

The long list of the org’s historical teachings above, go beyond the teachings of Christ.  We shouldn’t turn our backs on that list, but confront it, because understanding why it exists and why we may put up with it, means our life. Luke 21:8; 2 Pet 2:3; Col 2:8

We can talk about the Father all day, but if we don’t listen to His Son, study his teachings, and obey them, doesn’t that make us just like the early Jews who rejected Christ?  Luke 9:35

We listen to him because he holds the key of life.  John 5:24


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I`d like to ask a question If you do not believe the faithful slave 

Then where do you get your information from?

Without going to the watchtower index! 

what is the prophesy given by Enoch?

You say that JW`s are not true then give me what the prophesy is!

By the way everlasting life is given after the final test when Jesus has handed over all things to Jehovah including the subjection of himself,  When Jesus said I give them eternal life he was speaking about the anointed ones



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You must be directing your comment to Jesus.Defender,  but I wanted to say something about  this part of your comment:

17 hours ago, derek1956 said:

By the way everlasting life is given after the final test when Jesus has handed over all things to Jehovah including the subjection of himself,  When Jesus said I give them eternal life he was speaking about the anointed ones


The “final test” that I believe you are referring to, is after a supposed 1,000 years of peace after Armageddon.  Have you ever found in the scriptures where this thousand year time period would be one of peace? Matt 10:34 The Watchtower states it is a time of judgment.  If that is so, what is the basis for judging a person under what would be a righteous rule, free from Satanic influence?   If peace reigns, will there be any chance of insurrection, or disobedience, or wickedness? 

Watchtower 15/5/1 p. 16   I hope you read it carefully to perceive its contradictions.

Why will Judgment Day last a thousand years?

The dead will be raised during the thousand years. (

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Rom 6:7 - For he who has died has been freed from sin.

So, Watchtower is saying that during this thousand year time period, people may start out sinless, but sin can happen, because “of what they do after their resurrection”, even though Satan isn’t around to entice them into sin until the “final test”.   As I contemplate this, it doesn’t sound like a peaceful reign to me.  Who could trust their neighbor if there is a chance they will disobey God?  

Wt’s phrase: “people will need time to learn God’s ways and obey him”.  Of all the people that have lived on the earth, doesn’t God read the heart of each and every one of them? The resurrection is for those whose hearts are already “alive” by God’s standards, “fully committed” to serving Him.  2 Chron 16:9 They’ve already been tested by just living in this world where Satan is very intent on wanting to deceive them.   1 Pet 5:8

 But concerning the resurrection of the dead, have you not read what was spoken to you by God, saying, 32 ‘I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob’? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.” Matt 22:31-32

Once we gain eternal life from God, it is eternal.  Otherwise, all of Christ’s promises to those who are obedient to him now, are nullified.  John 6:40; 7:38; 17:3; Matt 25:44-46  This includes both anointed and those not anointed.  

Reading the surrounding scriptures give a different meaning to Rom 6:7:

 For if we have been united together in the likeness of His death, certainly we also shall be in the likeness of His resurrection, knowing this, that our old man was crucified with Him, that the body of sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves of sinFor he who has died has been freed from sin. Now if we died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, dies no more. Death no longer has dominion over Him10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Likewise you also, reckon yourselves to be dead indeed to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.  Rom 6:5-11

WT’s version of the thousand years tells JWs that even though one might survive Armageddon, they can still become “slaves to sin”, and die.  Not according to Paul’s words.  “If we die with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him”.  It is true that this is how the anointed receive eternal life. Even while alive in the flesh, eternal death has no hold on those alive in Christ.  1 Cor 15:55  And it applies to the rest of God’s children in the Kingdom.   Tell me, is it fair for them to face two “Armageddons”, two “final tests”, while the anointed remnant are sealed in heaven?  Is it fair for those who also live according to Christ’s teachings and promises on this side of Armageddon's finish, to face one more final test when they also “die for Christ”?  Matt 16:25

Even though the WT says, “contrary to popular opinion” that people will be judged after the resurrection, it states:
The Bible also describes a day of judgment that will occur suddenly before the thousand years begin. That day is also called the end, as discussed in the cover articles of this issue. In that day, God will remove all ungodly, wicked people. (

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The end to what?  To death? To wickedness? No, according to the organization.  Wickedness will still rear its ugly head a thousand years later (maybe sooner if people fall into sin through failing to learn obedience to God)

There are two things to notice about 2 Pet 3:9,13 

2 Pet 3:9 – those who survive Armageddon have repented of their sins.  Their hearts have already been judged as righteous, as 2 Pet 3:13 explains.  What a cruel act of God it would be, to test a heart already found righteous and sinless, during, and at the end of a thousand years…after the Great Tribulation/Armageddon.  The amazing thing to me, is that this “thousand years” is deemed as one of peace, yet also one of severe scrutiny by God. 

"The end" involves the appearance and ultimate destruction of a "false prophet" and the Beast/organization it directs. Rev 13:1,11 These entities are described also as "Gog and Magog".  In both places of Revelation, the "saints" are under their control.  Rev 13:5-7  

Now when the thousand years have expired, Satan will be released from his prison and will go out to deceive the nations which are in the four corners of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle, whose number is as the sand of the sea  Rev 20:7-9

Please notice what happens to the anointed ones, the “saints”, when Satan is released to deceive -

They went up on the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city.

This doesn’t occur after Armageddon, because by that time, the entire group of sealed “144,000 saints” are serving God in His “heavenly” Temple. (1 Cor 3:16,17; Eph 2:20-22) They would have conquered wickedness, and would be ruling as “kings and priests”…forever.  Rev 3:12;7:15;14:1; 5:9,10

But, as a JW, you would know this; although I am sure you haven’t focused on the results of Satan being “let loose” after a “thousand years”.  (Rev 20:9)

So, what is the battle all about?  You are seeing one side of it now.  It is the battle of truth against the deceitful lies that you now believe in.  The thousand years began in the first century. Jesus was ruling ‘ in the midst his enemies’ once he sat down at God’s right hand.  Ps 110:1,2; John 12:31,32; 1 Cor 15:24-27  Each day of that symbolic time period ( 2 Pet 3:8,9) was one of judgment for the anointed and believers in Christ, and is our “day of judgment”  now;  based on whether we choose to serve God and Christ, or men and their twisted antics with scripture.  The “thousand years” has ended; Satan was “let loose” to deceive the anointed who are presently surrounded within the walls of the Watchtower.  Matt 24:23,24; Thess 2:9-12 Rev 16:13,14 (the “kings of the earth” are the saints.  Rev 1:5)

Rev 16:13,14 speaks of the “kings of the earth”, who are the anointed ones/saints, gathered together by a false prophet and a Beast/organization (Gog and Magog) (Rev 13:12,11; 20:8,9) for the “battle of the great day of God the Almighty”.  Demonic expressions are used against them…and all JWs; one being the doctrine of when the thousand year reign of Christ actually occurred.   

“For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. (the chosen ones, 1 Pet 2:5,9)  Matt 24:24


Of interest, “The Remaining Ones” by Pearl Doxsey – 4womaninthewilderness








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People will get time to alter their ways, but if they don`t they will not cause trouble they will be gone, as for those who alter their ways their test of loyalty will be at the end of the thousand years, after that no more will people be allowed to cause trouble on the earth, Total peace will be forever on the earth. 

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6 hours ago, derek1956 said:

People will get time to alter their ways, but if they don`t they will not cause trouble they will be gone, as for those who alter their ways their test of loyalty will be at the end of the thousand years, after that no more will people be allowed to cause trouble on the earth, Total peace will be forever on the earth. 

Are you believing that everyone who has ever lived will get a second chance to “alter they ways”?  Will the Pharisees in Jesus’ day be resurrected?  Will idolaters be resurrected and given a second chance? 

Please, put aside the opinion of your leaders and listen to what God says:

The heart is deceitful more than anything else,
    and it is disastrous. Who can understand it?
10 I, Yahweh, examine the mind,[

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and give to each one according to his way,
    according to the fruit of his deeds
.  Jer 17:10,11

This is final judgment by God.  By believing there is another judgment time after Armageddon, means God cannot be trusted to examine our intentions, as we live on this earth.  Are you trusting the words of men over those of God?

The Thousand Year Reign of Christ beginning in the first century, is the time when the anointed were being sifted as either his enemy or as co-heirs with him in the Kingdom of God. Each anointed one since Christ must stand for truth; those that don’t, become his enemy, siding with Satan and his lies.  2 Cor 10:4; John 16:33   Armageddon is when the last anointed ones face Satan’s final delusion, a time of great emotional, spiritual “distress”.  It is the culmination of “truth” battling against “lies”.  Gen 3:15; 2 Thess 2:9-12; Rev 19:11

 “At that time Michael, the great prince who protects your people, will arise. There will be a time of distress such as has not happened from the beginning of nations until then. But at that time your people—everyone whose name is found written in the book—will be delivered.”

Once we are written in the book of life, it remains there, forever.  There is no chance of a fickle God erasing it because of our failing a “final test” after Armageddon.

Watchtower teaches a shameful lie about Armageddon, as a literal war with Christ coming on a steed to save the day (wearing a cape??) The nations and literal guns are not aimed at God’s anointed ones and all JWs, but it is Satan’s LIES that will take them down, for eternity.

Doesn’t God promise protection to those who serve Him according to His decrees? Lev 26:3-5; Deut 6:16-18; Isa 48:18; Matt 5:10  Has He done this all the years the WT has been in existence?  NO.  The organization continually fights with Satan’s system to keep it afloat. Many have died a horrid death, supporting the organization.   There is no Holy Spirit involved; instead, it is men collecting money to build a falsehood called a “spiritual paradise”.  1 Thess 5:3  It is a delusion and a crushing one for the anointed ones, (God's Temple - 1 Cor 3:16,17) who must remain SILENT and allow the elders to rule over them. Matt 24:15; 2 Thess 2:3,4;9-12; Rev 11:1-3

This is their final test, the final battle between “seeds”; to side with truth in Christ, or the lies originating from the Father of the lie.  Gen 3:15; Rev 13:1,2,10,18,11

 John 12:31 - Now is the judgment of this world! Now the ruler of this world will be thrown out! 

Do you believe these words of Christ?




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11 hours ago, derek1956 said:

Some people really show theirs colours when making comments like the ones just said by Witness?


I think if you read my posts and comments, you will see I have been consistently transparent, with the same message.  However,  you will be in for a surprise (I wish you were prepared for it) when the GB’s true colors will be exposed by the organization itself.  Revelation’s “Beast”/organization is spirit-inspired (spirit-directed) and guided by a “prostitute”/false prophet (Beast of Rev 13:11). Rev 13:1,2,11,14-17 Soon, the organization will expose the GB’s secrets and sins, and more than likely disfellowship them.

Then the angel said to me, “The waters you saw, where the prostitute sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations and languages. 16 The beast and the ten horns you saw will hate the prostitute. They will bring her to ruin and leave her naked; they will eat her flesh and burn her with fire. 17 For God has put it into their hearts to accomplish his purpose by agreeing to hand over to the beast their royal authority, until God’s words are fulfill”  Rev 17:15-17

The “Beast” is comprised of the elder body.  The “ten horns” with “royal authority” signify anointed ones (1 Pet 2:5,9). Rev 17:12  Under coordinated efforts, they will dispose of the GB.  The Beast/organization will last for “one hour” after that revamping, before its destruction.  Rev 19:20 

“For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?” 1 Pet 4:17



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      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. THE disciple-making work is a lifesaving work! How do we know? When Jesus gave the command that is recorded at Matthew 28:19, 20, he said: “Go, . . . make disciples . . . , baptizing them.” ......To make disciples, we need to develop the “art of teaching.”....But as noted in the preceding article, we want to know how we can help more of them to become baptized disciples of Jesus Christ.  Teachers must show genuine, personal interest in their students. View them as your future spiritual brothers or sisters. It is not easy for them to give up friends in the world and to make all the necessary changes to serve Jehovah. We need to help them find true friends in the congregation. Talk openly about Christian dedication and baptism. After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple. Within a few months of having a regular Bible study and especially after beginning to attend meetings, the student should understand that the purpose of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
      Well, let us repeat what looks like two explanations on JWorg web. First, explanatory sentence for PUBLIC! 
      1) THE PURPOSE of the program is to show you what the Bible teaches.
      Now, as second explanation, JW MEMBERS are reminded WHAT is purpose of Bible Study.
      2)  After all, our goal in  conducting a Bible study is to help a person become a baptized disciple....the student should understand that THE PURPOSE of the Bible study is to help him to start serving Jehovah as one of His Witnesses.
    • By Srecko Sostar
      Part 1.  In this part we will meet few quotes in article from one WT magazine which describes administrative functions in WTJWorg past. Many of them stayed till today. 
      Please be free to comment. 
      Following Faithful Shepherds with Life in View - 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. This means we must prove our faith by our course of action, by the things we do. It means that righteous requirements of the King Jesus Christ must be met.......Therefore, in submitting to Jehovah’s visible theocratic organization, we must be in full and complete agreement with every feature of its apostolic procedure and requirements.
      ...In this way today too the governing body of the Christian congregation serves the entire organization. Solutions to problems arising in one locality are widely circulated so that the unity and oneness of the entire organization might be maintained...In submitting yourself to Jehovah’s visible organization as administered by such servants, you are still not required or expected to follow men..... It is the faith of these men that is to be imitated and their course of conduct that is to be observed....These men too, though occupying responsible positions of oversight themselves, recognize and submit to the superior appointment of the “faithful and discreet slave.”....The account says: “In those days there was no king in Israel.” (Judg. 21:25) So it was in the earlier days of the modern theocratic organization. Jehovah’s administration of righteousness took a pronounced forward step with the return of the Christian congregation to apostolic teachings. But before the King, Jesus Christ, was enthroned in 1914 C.E. the organization was loosely administered. Each “ecclesia” or congregation was self-governed by elected “elders” and “deacons.” But in 1914 Jehovah enthroned his King Jesus Christ, and from 1919 onward the time became due for Jeremiah’s prophecy to be fulfilled: “‘And I myself shall collect together the remnant of my sheep out of all the lands to which I had dispersed them, and I will bring them back to their pasture ground, and they will certainly be fruitful and become many. And I will raise up over them shepherds who will actually shepherd them; and they will be afraid no more, neither will they be struck with any terror, and none will be missing,’ is the utterance of Jehovah.”—Jer. 23:3, 4.
      12 This benefit of theocratic administration did not come all at once. In 1932 the “elective elders” were replaced in the congregation by an appointed “service director,” who was assisted by a group of mature members of the congregation democratically elected to their positions. But not until 1938 did the final change to strictly theocratic order take place. In that year, through the columns of The Watchtower, it was revealed from the Scriptures that the power of appointment of servants in congregations rightfully rests with the governing body of the “faithful and discreet slave” as directed by Jesus Christ from Jehovah’s temple.Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  This important step in the restoration of theocratic order assured Jehovah’s “sheep” that they would not again be separated into independent “flocks” by unscrupulous “shepherds.” The shepherds that Jehovah promised through Jeremiah would be those fully in agreement with Jesus’ words that “they will become one flock, one shepherd.”—Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. .
      14 In 1942 the change came. In the throes of World War II, with the change in administrations of the second and third presidents of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society,...The years since 1942 have told their tale regarding the exploits of the anointed Elisha class, accompanied by an ever-increasing number of the “great crowd.”—Rev. 7:9-17.
      On February 1, 1943, the Watchtower Bible School of Gilead was set up for training missionaries and special representatives of the Watch Tower Society to serve in all parts of the earth. That same year, 1943, a new training program, the Theocratic Ministry School, began in the congregations of Jehovah’s witnesses. At first only male students were enrolled in these schools, but in 1958 provision was made for the women of the congregations to enroll and participate.
      20 Such a theocratic view of matters will enable you always to keep pace with the organization, neither running ahead nor lagging dangerously behind. You will encounter trying circumstances. Do not be overcome by them. Wait on Jehovah and put your hope in him. (Ps. 37:34; 27:14) It might even be that reproof will be necessary on occasion. Do not become offended. If you do, you are undoubtedly taking yourself too seriously, failing to see the point of the reproof. Nor should you persuade yourself that you are of no use to the organization and quit simply because some mistake may be drawn to your attention. Rather, “my son, do not belittle the discipline from Jehovah, neither give out when you are corrected by him; for whom Jehovah loves he disciplines; in fact, he scourges every one whom he receives as a son.”—Heb. 12:5, 6.
      21 On the other hand, it may be that your advancement will be rapid. Guard against an attitude of super-faithfulness. It might ensnare you. Do not feel that others in the congregation are slow and backward. You might even become impatient with the organization. Consider instead the example of Moses, who pleaded with Jehovah to spare his typical theocratic nation when some faithless ones in the organization sinned against Jehovah and brought his anger down upon the entire congregation. (Ex. 32:1-14) Neither should you wait constantly to be directed as to the theocratic activity assigned. Eagerly assume individual responsibility and seek ways of advancing the Kingdom interests in harmony with the program currently outlined by the “faithful and discreet slave.”
      22. Why, then, should we stick loyally to Jehovah’s visible organization?
      22 The Bible sets forth every inducement and encouragement to place the theocratic organization ahead of oneself, to accept it in all its features and stick to it loyally. The theocratic pace of activity is still increasing. What Jehovah will yet require of his faithful servants on earth before Armageddon he will reveal in due time. Staying close to his visible theocratic organization is the only way to find out. Having identified that organization and God’s righteous requirements expressed through his channel, never let it go. Follow Jehovah’s faithful shepherds so that, “just as sin ruled as king with death, likewise also undeserved kindness might rule as king through righteousness with everlasting life in view through Jesus Christ our Lord.”—Rom. 5:21.
    • By Srecko Sostar
      I remember the first big wave of closures of many Bethel around the world a few years ago. That was just before my complete departure from JWorg in 2015.
      Today I stumbled upon another in a series of sales of so-called “god-dedicated” JW buildings.
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      Elim Christian Centre is a contemporary, relevant and multicultural church established over 30 years ago.
      We exist to be a centre of hope, to reach, serve and influence our local communities and beyond.
      At Elim people come to know God, find freedom, discover their unique purpose and be equipped to make a difference in our world.
    • By Srecko Sostar
      WT GB theology, supposedly biblically grounded, and most important, under the guidance of the Holy Spirit as GB say, explains why people suffer, why there is great evil in the world, and especially why the followers of Christ are subjected to persecution, especially from 1914 till now .
      In addition to the general explanation that humans are imperfect because of Adam and Eve sin, there is also the interpretation how satan and demons generate evil and are behind all attacks on JW members. Recently, the focus has been on Russia, and still is. For example, this two quotes say:
      During the 2019 annual meeting, Brother Mark Sanderson of the Governing Body delivered the talk entitled “What Do We Have to Fear?” The talk included this video segment with experiences from some of our brothers and sisters who have been persecuted in Russia. - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      As Russian authorities continue to fabricate lies to discredit our reputation as peace-loving people, we recall the words of Jesus, who foretold that opposers would “lyingly say every sort of wicked thing against” his disciples.—Matthew 5:11. - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      What said the teaching?
      Many people reject God because they blame him for suffering. Directly or indirectly, many religious leaders have taught that God is the cause of our suffering. But is it possible that religious leaders have misrepresented God? What if God has rejected them? God does not cause our suffering. God rejects religion that misrepresents him. This includes religions that teach that God causes our suffering and those that are involved with warfare and violence. - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      According to the latest explanation of who “Gog of Magog” is, JW members have learned that it is not Satan, but that it is a “coalition of the people”. Russia also belongs to this "coalition".
      In his TV sermon, D. Splane, as a “guardian of doctrine,” reads a passage from Ez. 38: 4 with explanation how JHVH talk words to this "coalition of nation". It says:  "I will turn you around, put hooks in your jaws and bring you out with your whole army—your horses, your horsemen fully armed, and a great horde with large and small shields, all of them brandishing their swords." 
      D. Splane explained the idea how "coalition of nation" didn't want to attack His nation, but JHVH redirected direction of "coalition". He said: "Timing of the attack is Jehovah's .. as some point following the destruction of Babylon The Great, Jehovah may in some way lure the nations into carrying out what is already in their hearts. Jehovah will thus set the stage for the attach that leads to Armageddon ......."   Ez 38:10 state:  You will advance against my people Israel like a cloud that covers the land. In days to come, Gog, I will bring you against my land, so that the nations may know me when I am proved holy through you before their eyes.
      How else do WT publications answer the question of why people (JW members) suffer?
      Humans bear a heavy responsibility for suffering. Some suffering is brought on by our own choices. Suffering is not punishment from God. On the contrary, much of it is random—often, a matter of someone being in the wrong place at the wrong time. Our sinful nature contributes to suffering. - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      JW suffer in Russia not need to have nothing with GB claims, how they are the only true religion and because they follow Jesus, as reasons for Russian Government ban on WTJWorg. Because, supposedly, Russia as all other governments that are part of "coalition of nations" want to harm WTJWorg because they are True Religion Organization. 
      Is the ban of WTJWorg in 34 countries around the world an attack by a “coalition of nations”? Was it, Is it "timing is Jehovah's"? Who cause suffer for JW in Russia ? Russia or because JHVH brought them against "his land"? Is this Russian attack on " JW True Religion" contrary to GB idea how "UN will attack false religion first and at the end they will attack the "true religion"? Because in reality, all sorts of religion ("true and/or false") have experienced attack through the centuries. 
      Does the attack of the "coalition" at this time, not recognize the difference between "true and false religion", and mistakenly persecute WTJWorg? What is wrong with their "attack timing"? Didn't they read the WT study magazines, because according to it, they must first start destroying all "false religions" and not create problems for "true religion"? 
    • By Emma Rose
      Who knew https://www.onetribeapparel.com/blogs/pai/meaning-flower-of-life
    • By Emma Rose
    • By Srecko Sostar
      Let me show you this video which I think has a few very important things for life, not only for JW members but also others who have dedicated their lives to some ideals and ideas.
    • By Srecko Sostar
      Many readers of the WT magazine are aware that the interpretation of Romans chapter 13 verse 1, (also with 2-4 context),  changed in JW theology.
      It was once thought that the "superior authorities" were: YHVH, Christ and earthly representatives in the form of elders, that is, governing body. These are called "theocratic superior authority".
      "The above quotations from Paul’s letter to the Romans could never have applied to the political powers of Caesar’s world as wrongly claimed by the clergy of Christendom. The Caesars of this world have never demonstrated by their deeds that they are ‘God’s ministers to you for good’. Rather, exactly to the contrary, the Caesars have done evil by persecuting God’s faithful servants." - Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.
      I found 3 changes about this doctrine.
      Under Russell and up to 1929 WT understand that this is about secular authority.  “Evil as these Gentile governments have been, they were permitted or “ordained of God” for a wise purpose. (Rom. 13:1)” Studies In the Scriptures Series I - The Divine Plan of the Ages p.250
      Under Rutherford explanation has changed. From 1929 to 1962 they believed this: “The instruction of the thirteenth chapter of Romans has long been misapplied. The improper application has really been the basis for the false doctrine of the “divine right of kings” or rulers to rule and oppress the people. The apostle is, in substance, telling the members of the church that they should always be obedient to God, and that the motive for such obedience must be love for God and a delight in doing’ his will.” Watchtower 1929 Jun 1 p.163.
      In 1962, under Knorr, the Society returned to the original position of Russell. A statement in Babylon the Great Has Fallen! God’s Kingdom Rules! page 548 indicated there was a change in understanding. And, “For some years, until 1962, Jehovah’s Witnesses held that the superior authorities were Jehovah God and Christ Jesus. However, in line with Proverbs 4:18, light increased, and this view was adjusted.” Watchtower 1990 Nov 1 p.11.  It seems how WT organization was left the spiritual “light” received through Russell and "sank" into doctrinal "darkness" for some 33 years. And than they didn't find "new light", but old Russell's doctrine which they reintroduced into the belief system as a “new light”.
      What this introduction have with Management Records Doctrine/Instruction for elders? Whatever the interpretation of these biblical passages from Romans chapter 13, the fact is one: GB and the elders are disobedient to the "superior authority." In fact, they create an internal administrative system to avoid responsibility for their decisions and for their actions. No matter what the topic is.
      In 1:57 of video JW elder Shawn Bartlett mentioned one "company" and circumstances about it in the past. This shows how WT is not honest Corporation. Please pay attention on this example and other reasons about "devil" and "legal matters" he made in video to show elders on this seminar why they need to destroy data.
      Shawn Bartlett, the records management overseer for the Jehovah's Witnesses, explains the organization's new record-keeping policies during a 2017 seminar..webp
    • By TheWorldNewsOrg
      Any collective belief in some approach as "the way" to solve problems is, literally, a bringing together of individuals (re = again, ligio = bond, reverence, and religare = to bind).
    • By Jack Ryan
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. The branch loads usb sticks with videos and content and sends it to the congregation, who then load it to the jw box, which the publishers connect and download into their devices. 
      It works as a normal device and can be charged through usb, adapter or power bank.
      The best part, they want donations of $75 for it! So they don't provide any physical food to people in Africa but they can send them "Spiritual Food" for $75. 
      Turns out, you can buy the same exact thing on Amazon for $45!!! All they did was slap a JW Logo onto of it and cover over the name of the product with a white sticky tape. 
      let's say they bought these in bulk for 20 dollars. If they sell 1million of these at a 50.00 dollar profit. The org just made 50 million !

    • By Srecko Sostar
      google translation from article in Sweden, - 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. 25 000 000 SEK = cca 2.400.000,00 EUR (2.800.000,00 US Dollar)
      Jehovah's Witnesses demand 25 million from the state
      Published 9 Jul 2020 at 17.00
      Jehovah's Witnesses have been denied state funding for several years. 
      Last year, the government overturned the decision - and now the organization is demanding SEK 25 million in compensation. 
      After being denied state subsidies twelve years in a row, the government last year approved the organization as eligible to receive grants for denominations. 
      The reason was a ruling by the Supreme Administrative Court which ruled that the practices of Jehovah's Witnesses - such as denying blood transfusions - do not in themselves constitute sufficient grounds for denying state subsidies. 
      Requires SEK 25 million
      Jehovah's Witnesses believe that their rights under the European Convention have been violated. 
      Jehovah's Witnesses are now applying for damages of nearly 25 million in compensation for the years without support, as evidenced by documents produced by News Agency Siren. 
      The claim, which has been sent to the Chancellor of Justice, applies to both financial and non-pecuniary damage. Jehovah's Witnesses also include legal costs to claim their case.
    • By Srecko Sostar
      The National Secular Society has urged Britain's charity regulators to ensure the restructuring of Jehovah's Witnesses (JW) charities does not obstruct victims of child abuse from claiming compensation.
      The NSS has raised the issue with the Charity Commission for England and Wales and the Scottish charity regulator, OSCR, after a report on BBC Radio 4's Sunday programme this week.
      The programme 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  substantial amounts of property and land that it owns. As part of a significant restructuring of the organisation, each congregation is being asked to dissolve its charitable status and merge – along with its assets – with the Kingdom Hall Trust. The trust is a registered charity whose aims include being a "custodian trustee holding title to freehold and leasehold properties acquired as places of worship".
      The assets mentioned on the Sunday programme included kingdom halls, which are used for worship and meetings.
      An abuse survivor and lawyers who spoke to the programme expressed concern that such a restructuring could leave JW charities unable to pay potential liabilities.
      A number of JW churches worldwide have been subject to investigations regarding their handling of sexual abuse allegations in recent years. In Australia, JW organisations have consolidated and sold properties worth millions of pounds amid a series of legal claims and a damning report from a royal commission.
      NSS comment
      NSS chief executive Stephen Evans said: "It is clearly not in the public interest for charities to be permitted to restructure in ways that may impede victims and survivors of abuse within these communities from claiming compensation.
      "We therefore urge the Charity Commission to use all available powers to ensure that the restructuring of JW charities does not impede abuse victims' and survivors' ability to obtain settlements."
      Jehovah's Witnesses and abuse in Britain
      JW communities' handling of abuse allegations will come under increased scrutiny next month, when the Independent Inquiry on Child Sexual Abuse is due to conduct hearings on the issue.
      In 2018 scores of alleged victims accused the JWs of a 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  of child sexual abuse. Earlier this year at least 20 former JWs Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  over abuse which they say they suffered. In 2017 the Charity Commission 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  the New Moston Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses in Manchester over its handling of allegations of abuse. And in 2016 the Supreme Court ruled that the Watch Tower and Bible Tract Society of Great Britain, which oversees JW congregations, 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  over its handling of abuse allegations. This week's episode of the Sunday programme is 
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content. ; listen from 5:20 to 21:45 for the relevant section.
    • By Patiently waiting for Truth
      Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  
      Don't know if this is exactly new news. but it 'sort of' sounds interesting.
      Trump Delivers on Promise to Advance Religious Freedom Abroad 
      This week, President Trump issued a historic executive order that ensures international religious freedom will be a major piece of his legacy. The new directive gives the U.S. government more tools than ever before to advance religious freedom globally and to penalize foreign nations that perpetrate or allow religious persecution.
      Link to article at top. 
    • By Srecko Sostar
      In the age of this Corona contagion, the term "social distance" emerged. In recommending how to protect their health against this virus, health care providers have introduced some measures regarding the behavior of people in their interactions with each other. One of them is famous "social distance".

      What does it mean first of all to have "social distance" in this Corona context? This means that the physical distance between persons must not be less than 1 meter, or 2 meters or similar. This is actually about physical distance, not social distance. Because, no one forbade people to talk and exchange thoughts. By any means, directly or virtually, using technology.

      From this we could conclude that the term/word and the means used to prevent infection is deficient in clarity, is wrong. Having a "social distance" would mean refraining from making intellectual and emotional contact with other people. It would mean that we do not want to talk to them, that we do not want to accept them as people belonging to a particular "social" group. It would mean that don't want to see them, literally and transmitted. Specifically, we see that these disease measures primarily seek to reduce physical contact between people. This is about "close physical contact". Anything less than 6 feet. :))
      What is interesting about Corona measures? WTJWorg using both sort of measures to control "disease" inside Organization for very long time, and without possibility to "relax" this measures. With "shunning" policy JW's members using social and physical distance on people who are not JW members any more. That could mean how "Corona" existing constantly inside WTJWorg, long before Wuhan :)).

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