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1 hour ago, 4Jah2me said:

ou last comment was about JTR and Alan Smith, now you are burbling about 'gay union' and war.   None of which relates to this topic at all. 

Do you even read your own comments ? Do you even understand the arguments you make? More incoherent double-talk. The good thing, I just proved how ex-witnesses can't find a good argument. Seriously, get some help!!

 

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My first ever meme to call my own. I figured if I could make one here, I can make one anywhere!

I agree. But where did they get the date from? Those who were serving with a date in mind didn't just pull the date out of thin air did they?

You are told that God’s Spirit is with this organization. (Rev 13:15)  Yet, history proves that with each false prophesy and failed teaching by your leaders, God’s Spirit is not resting in the organization. (Prov 12:22) The God of Truth would not lie, and neither would Jesus Christ, who is Truth. (John 1:14,17;14:6)  If you say God is with you, all JWs are liars themselves. (Prov 13:5) In your mind and hearts, you have blurred the boundary line, between truth and lies.  It should be distinct wit

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1 hour ago, 4Jah2me said:

Your Leaders show up the faults in other religions, but hide the faults in their own Organisation.  It's fact, live with it or leave the Org. 

WTJWorg Administration making "very clever" legal moves such as establishment of new corporations under various names in order to hide the origin and position / location of the documentation, ie incriminating documentation and money. This is my opinion. It is not necessary to prove the opinion, nor is it possible to successfully refute it :)) The establishment of the CCJW in 2000 is one of such maneuvers.

Court documents that are publicly available show that this view is not excessive.

Similar to various "Armageddon debacles". Where is the "Hidden Ball" located? Under which of the three boxes? They said that Armageddon would start in 1914, and then they said that the ball of Armageddon was under the vessel that says 1925. But look, it's not there, it's below the 1941 vessel. So again, the JW members misinterpreted the 1975 ball. And so to this day. 

Where are the documents? Under which vessel, ie in which WT corporation? :))

 

 

 

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On 11/30/2020 at 3:36 PM, César Chávez said:

like JTR that pleaded to one count, a "plea bargain" in order for the State to drop the other 3 since they were the same charges times 4 and to stay out of prison. Probation will be hard for a long time. 

Is there any proof or source to this "plea bargain" anywhere? 

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@Srecko Sostar Thank you for the links / downloads. That has opened my eyes (given me new information).

But it now gets more confusing to me. So what was the CCJW before it was the CCJW ? 

I thought JW Org was just the website side of the organisation. 

And I thought that the Watchtower was the 'business' side including the printing works. 

The whole lot of them, including the Governing Body, are very devious and will be judged by God through Christ.  But in the meantime the Child Sexual Abuse will continue and Elders and Ministerial Servants will continue to get away with it. 

My prayers to God to bring in a True Anointed or for God to start a new organsation before the Judgement arrives.  

 

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2 hours ago, 4Jah2me said:

you prove nothing. All you do is insult people.

And you do. What have you proven with your distorted views about 1975, none. However, since you seem fit to judge others, then accept when I judge you? If you think I'm insulting you, then think about how you as an ex-witness insult the Watchtower with baseless accusations overly exaggerated on the internet. But, I also extend you to have peace.

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20 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

WTJWorg Administration making "very clever" legal moves such as establishment of new corporations under various names in order to hide the origin and position / location of the documentation, ie incriminating documentation and money.

Sorry to say, you just don't understand what incorporated means in business. The only thing, your submission proves is what the State is asking a judgement on. The Watchtower disagrees with that assumption and rightfully so. 

It would be like if "you personally" bought a "firearm" that was used in a murder. The State now wants to charge you personally for that murder just because you are in "possession" of that gun. You had nothing to do with the murder, and you knew nothing about the murder or heard about it.

What you are saying it seems, you agree with the State that you should be charged for murder just because you are now in possession of that murder weapon. If that sounds logical to you, there's something funny about the legal system in your country. It's NOT democratic.

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41 minutes ago, César Chávez said:

Sorry to say, you just don't understand what incorporated means in business. The only thing, your submission proves is what the State is asking a judgement on. The Watchtower disagrees with that assumption and rightfully so. 

It would be like if "you personally" bought a "firearm" that was used in a murder. The State now wants to charge you personally for that murder just because you are in "possession" of that gun. You had nothing to do with the murder, and you knew nothing about the murder or heard about it.

What you are saying it seems, you agree with the State that you should be charged for murder just because you are now in possession of that murder weapon. If that sounds logical to you, there's something funny about the legal system in your country. It's NOT democratic.

Thanks, for illustration. 

Let continue with example you gave. One part of that story you presented speaking of "gun that is in possession of individual who are innocent".  I would like to ask you: If authority ask that individual to handle this gun with which crime was committed, would it be problem for him, innocent individual to hand over that gun to police?

The message and lesson of your story would be this:

CCJW go to police and court and say;  look, we have documents given to us (or, which we found in WT basement, or, which we purchased at a sale of WT property ...,) by the WT of New York. They produced those documents and they are responsible for the processes in which they participated. We are just a kind of warehouse, an archive in which we keep their documents. Please take this documents as sign of good will from our side, because we obey Cesar's law. 

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1 hour ago, César Chávez said:

Sorry to say, you just don't understand what incorporated means in business.

New Corporations Formed

The January 15, 2001, issue of The Watchtower reported on the organized way in which Jehovah’s Witnesses are continuing to move forward with the Kingdom work in all the earth. It also explained how various legal entities are used as instruments to facilitate the spreading of the good news. Such entities or corporations are necessary to conform to local and national laws, as required by God’s Word. (Rom. 13:1) Because of the diversity and scope of our work, the Governing Body has approved the formation of additional corporations to care for certain needs of Jehovah’s Witnesses here in the United States. The new corporations are as follows:

Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Religious Order of Jehovah’s Witnesses

Kingdom Support Services, Inc.

These will operate along with Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania and Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. Congregations and publishers may receive correspondence from any of these corporations. Your cooperation with these adjustments made by the Governing Body in fulfilling its assignment to care for all the Master’s belongings will be greatly appreciated.—Matt. 24:45-47. - 

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Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses is a not-for-profit corporation organized on August 21, 2000, in the state of New York. The purposes of the corporation are religious, educational, and charitable. -

    Hello guest!

The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania is a nonprofit corporation formed in 1884 under the laws of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, U.S.A. It is used by Jehovah’s Witnesses to support their worldwide work, which includes publishing Bibles and Bible-based literature.

According to its charter, the corporation’s purposes are “religious, educational, and charitable,” in particular, to “preach and teach the gospel of God’s Kingdom under Christ Jesus.” Membership in the corporation is by invitation only and is not based on how much a person has donated. The corporation members and directors assist the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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According to simple explanations made on WTJWorg interenet pages it seems how all this corporations doing same work, namely:  purposes are “religious, educational, and charitable. 

But for beginners like me it is interesting to read also this:

Incorporation has many advantages for a business and its owners, including:

Protects the owner's assets against the company's liabilities.

Allows for easy transfer of ownership to another party.

Often achieves a lower tax rate than on personal income.

Usually receives more lenient tax restrictions on loss carryforwards.

Can raise capital through the sale of stock.

 

Other Advantages of Incorporation

Incorporation effectively creates a protective bubble of limited liability, often called a corporate veil, around a company's shareholders and directors. As such, incorporated businesses can take the risks that make growth possible without exposing the shareholders, owners, and directors to personal financial liability outside of their original investments in the company.

GB directing and approving all operations of all WT companies around the World. 

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6 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

CCJW go to police and court and say;  look, we have documents given to us (or, which we found in WT basement, or, which we purchased at a sale of WT property ...,) by the WT of New York. They produced those documents and they are responsible for the processes in which they participated. We are just a kind of warehouse, an archive in which we keep their documents. Please take this documents as sign of good will from our side, because we obey Cesar's law. 

This is a "good faith gesture" by the individual that had possession of the weapon. However, in this scenario, it's "not" the police that accept that individual's explanation about the weapon in question, it's the prosecuting entity that is "refusing" to accept that explanation because the State, demands a win.

That's why, the rest of what you posted, unless you understand the incorporated laws "governed" by each country, it doesn't matter what you post, since it is something you think it means, not that it actually does. 

However, like it has been said many times, we have sidetracked from the original subject of 1975. Let's stick to that.

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On 12/2/2020 at 1:30 PM, 4Jah2me said:

So what was the CCJW before it was the CCJW ?

Watch Tower in Pennsylvania is Mother No 1. (born in 1881) -  today: Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania 

After some time she born a Daughter, Watchtower in New York, or Mother No 2. (born in 1909) - today: Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc.

CCJW is Daughter of New York Mother No 2. (born in 2000)

But this is simplistic way, i guess, because of their jobs . Somebody with better insight can elaborate this more accurately. :))

They have separate, different area of activity, but GB is Top Managers for all of them. Of course, so called Helpers are in fact Directors (CEO) in various Departments or entities. 

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