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1 hour ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Which of "5 facts" i presented is most painful for you?

Not painful at all. I just figured you to have better sense giving the fact the Watchtower quotes many areas of situations and expertise. It seems you draw the line with libraries, does that make sense to you, or does the truth hurt?

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The following quote bears repeating, posted two days ago, on another JW forum: Please see the study article, “Their Refuge–A Lie!” in the June 1, 1991 Watchtower, noting paragraphs 1, 10 and 11. Paragraph 1 calls Christendom “that apostate religious organization.” Why apostate? Paragraph 10 asserts that “she insinuates herself into the favor of the political leaders of the nations–this despite the Bible’s warning that friendship with the world is enmity with God.”

Yes! It's called getting access to world views, which the Awake! Relies on. Back then, there was NO INTERNET access. Now, everything is digitized for internet access. The Watchtower, was only interested in the library. There is nothing wrong with having access to a huge government library. The fact that ex-witnesses submit and attach confusion, demonstrates the lack of knowledge. It would be no different with the library of congress, or any museum library that deals with ancient scrolls. 

Not necessary, according to the U.N.  So, what was their reason for joining Watchtowers prophesied Beast, as an NGO?  What is their reason today for doing so in other countries.  How many JWs will continue to turn a deaf ear to Hello guest! Please register or sign in (it's free) to view the hidden content.  excuses?   

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8 hours ago, César Chávez said:

It seems you draw the line with libraries

First picture shows what was criteria in the year 1991/92.

According to text:

1) NGO is to help the build public understanding and support for UN programs and goals

2) NGO must have national or international standing

3) NGO must have to support the Charter of UN 

4) NGO must have broadly based membership

5) NGO must posses the resources for effective outreach

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@Srecko SostarThank you for posting the "proof".  It’s interesting to note how the organization lived up to its agreement to support the Charter of the U.N.  It is easy to find news and articles in the Awake magazine on the U.N./United Nations for those years of the organization’s membership.   During that time period and in that magazine particularly, it wasn't all about the UN as the "Beast" of Revelation, but relating to its works world-wide.  

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2 hours ago, Witness said:

During that time period and in that magazine particularly, it wasn't all about the UN as the "Beast" of Revelation, but relating to its works world-wide.  

WT writers of Awake magazine using words that shows how UN is/was powerless in many worlds events, wars primarily, but how their work is commendable and how JW members render due respect to UN as any other government because they are here with God's permission and how some form of government is necessary to maintain order and law in society.

The Awake magazine using Bible verses that are, that have wide application. Read this please: Clearly, the United Nations does not have the ability to bring world peace. Its members and supporters are all imperfect humans, notwithstanding their lofty goals. The Bible says that “to earthling man his way does not belong. It does not belong to man who is walking even to direct his step.” (

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Two facts are supported with Bible verses which are "a double-edged sword". One edge is for UN and other edge is for GB. First, earthly man is unable to direct his steps, and second, do not put your trust in man. And what JW members can learn from this? If they listen better to what anyone is telling them on JWTV, then they will wonder why GB leaders are inviting their members to show them their trust and why GB thinks that they are able to manage/direct their own steps?

Did the UN “accomplish these aims”? Did it get the nations to unite their strength and maintain peace and security? No, not so far, although the UN has sincerely tried to be a significantly better way than the League of Nations....Jehovah’s Witnesses firmly believe that the United Nations is going to play a major role in world events in the very near future. No doubt these developments will be very exciting. And the results will have a far-reaching impact on your life. We urge you to ask Jehovah’s Witnesses in your neighborhood for more details on this matter. The Bible clearly paints a picture showing that the United Nations will very shortly be given power and authority. The UN will then do some very astonishing things that may well amaze you. And you will be thrilled to learn that there is yet a better way near at hand that will surely bring eternal peace and security! - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/101991643

For 50 years the United Nations organization has made notable efforts to bring about world peace and security. Arguably, it may have prevented a third world war, and the wholesale destruction of human life through the use of nuclear bombs has not been repeated. The United Nations has provided millions of children with food and medicine. It has contributed to improved health standards in many countries, providing, among other things, safer drinking water and immunization against dangerous diseases. Millions of refugees have received humanitarian assistance. - https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1995720

 

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12 hours ago, Srecko Sostar said:

Fifth picture shows another confirmation how criteria for NGO have not been changed since 1991.

I guess you refuse to read the letters you just posted correctly. How about reading it through a truth eye. 

It also seems, you don't read my response to well either. How about posting the "1991 application form" versus what the misguided UN officer sent on his remarks. That person made no distinction between the 1991 form and the "revised" form he was talking about.

Was the UN language changed? YES! The Watchtower was not aware it had and when it was time to renew, THE WATCHTOWER REFUSED BECAUSE OF THAT NEW LANGUAGE!!

Therefore, POST the 1991 application or let it go, srecko. Ex-witnesses have no claim no matter how hard you try to subvert the truth.

Watchtower NGO_ Letter_Email to The Guardian.pdf

 

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On 11/21/2020 at 8:31 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

although the UN has sincerely tried to be a significantly better way than the League of Nations.

“Notable efforts”, “sincerely tried”, “provided”, “contributed”, “assisted”.  It sounds like  the WT was successful in supporting the UN Charter. 

But, during the same time period, in another magazine…

To trust any man-made substitute for God’s Kingdom makes that substitute an image, an object of worship. (

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) Thus, encouraging reliance on political institutions, such as the United Nations, for peace and security is an illusion, a lie. 

Even a revived UN can never bring peace and security. God’s prophetic Word shows that the United Nations organization with its member nations “will battle with the Lamb [Christ in Kingdom power], but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them.”—

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“What is this symbolic creature’s source of authority? Why, none other than Satan, the dragon! And just imagine! To this political monstrosity a two-horned beast (the Anglo-American World Power) is seen to make an “image,” now known as the United Nations. Many are coerced to worship the wild beast and accept its “mark” by doing things its way and letting it rule their lives. But Jehovah’s Witnesses staunchly reject the demonic mark of the wild beast!”  w91 5/1 p. 22-23

This is so ironic!  We see the Wt. accepted the UN’s “mark” by supporting/doing things the UN’s way - supporting their Charter -  while slandering it with vile comments, in another titled magazine, most likely not made evident to the UN. 

Can we trust an organization that speaks evil and good out of the same mouth? 

“Out of the same mouth come praise and cursing. My brothers and sisters, this should not be. Can both fresh water and salt water flow from the same spring? 12 My brothers and sisters, can a fig tree bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Neither can a salt spring produce fresh water.”  James 3:11,12
 

So, what really is…the man-made substitute for God’s Kingdom that defines the Beast of Revelation?  Who really is…the false prophet/two horned Beast of Rev 13:11 that guides the first Beast/organization? 

It is the only organization that knows who God’s “saints” are, and who “makes war" against them, by blaspheming the role of the appointed priesthood designated by God. (Rev 13:5-9)   It is the only organization that guarantees "peace and security".  (1 Thess 5:3)  If any “reject” this organization’s

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On 11/21/2020 at 8:31 AM, Srecko Sostar said:

Furthermore, God warns: “Do not put your trust in nobles, nor in the son of earthling man, to whom no salvation belongs.”—

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 "For although they knew God, they neither glorified him as God nor gave thanks to him, but their thinking became futile and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images made to look like a mortal human being and birds and animals and reptiles."

After all, they are beasts.

 "They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things (a man made organization)  rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen."  Rom 1:21-23,25

 

 

 

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12 hours ago, Witness said:

This is so ironic!  We see the Wt. accepted the UN’s “mark” by supporting/doing things the UN’s way - supporting their Charter -  while slandering it with vile comments, in another titled magazine, most likely not made evident to the UN. 

Left half of brain is for UN and right half of brain is against UN?  :))

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I believe this was already debunked, granted, a UN Resolution in regards to an NGO was never found among them. If I remember correctly, you stated you did not know much about these things and wish to not know, but we are back at this again.

This is all in regards to the United Nations' charter and Resolutions, which was presented several times, even with the UN as a source, but it was widely ignored.

That being said, you are going about the same rambles of which you were corrected on before, with the UN being a legitimate source who noted everything in regards of charters and resolutions from the 1940s onward.

It is unhealthy to continue with repetitive banter.

 

 

@César Chávez If there is no UN charter and or a resolution, the claims of the JW faith being part of the UN is misinformation, to which ironically, the parrots, have been corrected on this before, with legitimate information. I don't see why feral soldiers on an empty battlefield continue to swing a worn sword aimlessly into the air in front of them as if their opponent is physically there.

That said, the United Nations and those who are among the charter and are of the resolution will [forever] be an enemy, an adversary, granted in the past several weeks into the pandemic, some of us has seen what the the public are unware of. As I recall, assuming you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses, you are deemed an enemy by such. As I pointed out before the UN has always been, and still are, on a Conquest for Security while their religious faction seeks Peace.

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